Did the Russians actually lose at Kharkiv or was the whole thing blown out of proportion for Ukie propaganda?

Did the Russians actually lose at Kharkiv or was the whole thing blown out of proportion for Ukie propaganda?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ukies captured 400 plus
    >ziggers crying about it on telegram
    >your thread
    Ukraine won, Russia lost.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A whole fricking brigade of armoured vehicles being captured wasn't "just" propaganda
      Seriously, I think Kharkiv played a role in breaking Oryx
      The numbers were just rolling in

      Qrd on this? Last I heard they were encircled

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A whole fricking brigade of armoured vehicles being captured wasn't "just" propaganda
        Seriously, I think Kharkiv played a role in breaking Oryx
        The numbers were just rolling in

        is talking about the 1st russian rout from kharkiv, which happened early in the war. It was that event in particular, when russia abandoned well trained troops and top tier equipment that kinda sealed their fate as being a fricking joke in this war.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No sorry I made a mistake, I was thinking of Kherson

          [...]
          Qrd on this? Last I heard they were encircled

          I made a mistake

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Which is why Ukraine is currently driving to Moscow right? RIGHT?

          Zigger tears make me smile

          >shills melting down like theyre am oil terminal in rostov

          You are crying behind your pc because Ukraine earlier today announced they are clearly not winning and have invited Putin to the next peace conference.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ukraine is currently driving to Moscow right?
            What is this cope?
            Why would Ukraine drive on Moscow? When did this become an objective of Ukraine's?

            This would unironically be like Frogs saying they didn't lose in Indochina because the Viet Minh didn't march on Paris.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It’s just part of the victim complex.
              >Poor Russia, Ukraine wants to march on Moscow!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cut off at an aggregate plant like last week. it has been talked about.
        they got glide bombed themselves, etc

        [...] is talking about the 1st russian rout from kharkiv, which happened early in the war. It was that event in particular, when russia abandoned well trained troops and top tier equipment that kinda sealed their fate as being a fricking joke in this war.

        n

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What is the point of posting a week old map

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sauce plz? looks like a crop from a video, but i'm more interested in the map itself, who produced it etc

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Military summary

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >channel is entirely 'Russians STORMING Noveroviv after ALMIGHTY breakthrough at Yuvnotheardovich'
                >map is for patreon supporters only
                thanks for the source at least anon, but when its this obviously biased i need to see where its claims are coming from before i pay any attention

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A whole fricking brigade of armoured vehicles being captured wasn't "just" propaganda
    Seriously, I think Kharkiv played a role in breaking Oryx
    The numbers were just rolling in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      inconsequential losses. It was just part of a bigger bait and switch, Putin is going to lead the charge into Kyiv after crushing their overconfident resistance. Russia is incredibly strong and they have the capability to shrug off minor losses and recoup even stronger, with better technology and weapons. NATO's days are numbered.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good times.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >russia objectively flubs offensive and losing 50k men
    >is this 5d hyperchess?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is the 3 day SMO over already?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    depends what was the purpose of that incursion. if the goal was indeed to establish a buffer zone, then it's a failure. if the actual goal was to draw out ukraine reserves, then it has been success up to a point.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >we will take Kharkiv
    >we won't take Kharkiv but we will create deep buffer zone inside Ukraine
    >we won't protect Belgorod from shelling but we will destroy numerous xoxoл forces
    >we won't destroy large xoxol forces but we will tie them down so we can advance on other directions
    YOU ARE HERE
    >offensive never happened, it was all NAFO protection xaxaxa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we won't destroy large xoxol forces but we will tie them down so we can advance on other directions
      That was unironically plan from the day 1. They were unable to capitalise on Avdivka breakthrough so they tought maybe spreading Ukies thin will help. They knew Ukies can't just let them advance on Kharkiv even tough Russians wouldn't be able to capture it with those ridiculously few soldiers. They had to react somehow. Russians sent there were dead men since the start.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >We will take Kharkiv in three days
    ...
    >We never wanted Kharkiv, we will take the suburbs as a buffer
    ...
    >Vovchansk is Russia forever
    ...
    >The Kharkiv feint laid the groundwork for the offensive in (TBA)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      New offensive in luhansk apparently but they only have 10k

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And like a few hundred vehicles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >about 2 weeks worth of mobiks
        The memes write themselves lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't ask questions just consume mobik and get excited for next mobiks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only 10k
        You’re right.
        I do find this offensive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >New offensive in luhansk
        it starts in luhansk region, yes, but it targets another part of kharkiv region.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >New offensive in luhansk
        it starts in luhansk region, yes, but it targets another part of kharkiv region.

        That would explain some of the vatnik spam. It's preemptive damage control.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia lost thousands of men, hundreds of vehicles and got NATO to allow strikes into Russia
    >they took a few bombed-out villages are are loosing them again with even greater loss of men and materiel
    >Monke, yuo are genius!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >got NATO to allow strikes into Russia
      This was actually the biggest L of this whole operation.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Xabkib will be Russian, Odessa will be Russian, Kherson will be Russian. It’s just what it is, you can stop /k/oping now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zigger tears make me smile

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shills melting down like theyre am oil terminal in rostov

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Kherson will be Russian
      Aged poorly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Kherson will be Russian
      a russian port? not sure what else you'll use it for now.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just to keep the Russians going and to gaslight them into oblivion. This was a masterful move which made the Ukrainians divert important forces. Western support is about to stop any moment now.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder why this board is so pro-Ukrainian.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what do people who have guns fantasize about doing to a home invader?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ~~*~~*((

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Damn israelites always siding with nazis lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          we knew you were polestinian already, you didnt need to say it again

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We know you’re a tourist

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry does tourist in /k/-speak mean glowie?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/ZXcftTq.png

          We know you’re a tourist

          >screeching about israelites and reddit
          >complaining about nazis
          Go back to /leftypol/. You astroturfing homosexuals ruined /misc/.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            pol is satire

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's fricking crazy how absolute buckbroken modern day /misc/ is.
          They're siding with Russia, Iran, North Korea, Chechnya, Brazil and China over a white country defending itself from an invasion. Russia jerks off to the Soviet Union and "anti-faschism", North Korea is full of communist chinks, Chechnya is full of muslims, Brazil is full of brown people and China full of chinese people (need I say more?).
          They're actively killing off tens of thousands of whites at the very least, blowing up their cities and replacing inhabitants with vid related. This video is from their own propaganda, it's the future /misc/ wants.
          And their only argument is "West is bad and degenerate, look at this homosexual I saw on twitter!" or literally complaining about Nazis.
          It's truly mindboggling

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, forgot to mention; this video is on the russian re-population of mariupol. A formely almost entirely white industrial city now reduced to a bombed out shithole full of the people you see that got transported there.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            polBlack folk were fantasizing about all moving to eastern europe for a decade claiming how based and white everyone there is, but the moment we're concerned about our security and self defense suddenly were pawns of globohomosexual that deserve to be destroyed, it's just proof of the brownification of the board but also the general low IQ of its userbase, if the mainstream opinion was suddenly open white nationalism and TND they would probably screech in defense of Black folk because it'd mean going against ''the narrative'', whatever was inflicted on the minds of these people is something else

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Obsessed

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              /pol/tards deserve the rope. Simple as

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              not as much as the average poltroon is with transgenderism and interracial porn, have a nice day homosexual

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I unironically blame Trump('s cabal)
            Reason and principle in the USA went out the window when he essentially declared that anything homosexual is wrong and anything anti-homosexual is right, regardless of everything else packaged with it
            >does it have french fries? it's a Happy Meal
            >but it's literally french fries in a steaming cowpat
            >DID I FRICKING STUTTER?!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            polBlack folk were fantasizing about all moving to eastern europe for a decade claiming how based and white everyone there is, but the moment we're concerned about our security and self defense suddenly were pawns of globohomosexual that deserve to be destroyed, it's just proof of the brownification of the board but also the general low IQ of its userbase, if the mainstream opinion was suddenly open white nationalism and TND they would probably screech in defense of Black folk because it'd mean going against ''the narrative'', whatever was inflicted on the minds of these people is something else

            I unironically blame Trump('s cabal)
            Reason and principle in the USA went out the window when he essentially declared that anything homosexual is wrong and anything anti-homosexual is right, regardless of everything else packaged with it
            >does it have french fries? it's a Happy Meal
            >but it's literally french fries in a steaming cowpat
            >DID I FRICKING STUTTER?!

            Maybe /misc/ knows better because they look at politics while you look at boomer memes from 1990

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah this is just bait now.

                You didn’t know Zelensky was israeli /misc/ informed you LOL.

                >Ukraine is currently driving to Moscow right?
                What is this cope?
                Why would Ukraine drive on Moscow? When did this become an objective of Ukraine's?

                This would unironically be like Frogs saying they didn't lose in Indochina because the Viet Minh didn't march on Paris.

                It’s just part of the victim complex.
                >Poor Russia, Ukraine wants to march on Moscow!

                Is Ukrainian driving on Bakhmutt?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You didn’t know Zelensky was israeli
                We already knew a lot of world leaders were israelites, silly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Is Ukrainian driving on Bakhmutt?
                Whenever they feel like they've gibbed enough ziggroids. Thankfully they film a lot of it, too.

                Let’s tally up total territorial gains.
                Hmmm. Looks like Russia has way more.
                It’s over. Ukraine has lost.

                Does that count all the ground vatnoids returned during Goodwill Gestures™?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Da joos goalpost
                Try again

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah this is just bait now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Russia is a shithole with terrible weapons production

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You call Russia a shithole but its GDP per capita is nearly 3x that of Ukraine's.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And less than fricking Italy, a country with 55 million people, half mountain+desert, without a fricking ore/natural resource. Now look how many Russian there are and how incredibly rich in natural resources is Siberia

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only desert in Europe is in Spain, and Russia had to deal with the shit show that was the 1990's.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You have never visited internal Sicily in a hot summer. Check it. Not a desert in the strict sense but there are vast zone without water, infrastructures and at risk of desertification

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Where do you think the spaghetti western were shot anon?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They were shot in spain, they're called spaghetti westerns because the director was italian

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Spain, hence being named after the popular spanish pasta dish.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it's still a shithole that bullies its neighbors

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yet it still can't successfully invade it lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thank the West for that, tens of billions in financial aid and plenty of military equipment sure helps.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks the west 🙂

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >acting like tens of billions is a lot

              No wonder russia is screwed, they can't even overcome .5% of the US's military budget

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thank you the West.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              then how did afganistan fold over after all those western billions, is russia weaker than taliban?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Give it time.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >da cumragz only 10 more years til we see the snails bumtouching lover

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Vietnam took 8 years. Afghanistan took 20. This is only the 3rd year. Most likely we will see a peace or ceasefire resolution within next 2 years

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You do realise Ukraine and Russia have been exchanging shells off and on since 2015?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you count some shelling and rebel fights as part of war, then I'll count entire Vietnam war duration of 21 years. They still have 12 years to not lose this war unlike some other countries

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >then I'll count entire Vietnam war duration of 21 years
                Probably more accurate, yes. The USSR was supporting them from day one the same way they supported the Dombabweans.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So give ukranian war time then. Every day there are dozens of shill threads about how russia is about to collapse. Its tiresome

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dozens of shill threads full of zigger shills
                Yeah

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The longer it goes the worse it is for Russia though
                Vietnam was a fight between superpowers
                Today's Russia is 25 times smaller than its opponents
                A long war benefits Ukraine far more than it does Russia

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By any economical measure, measure of demographic decline or the fact that their land is incurring 99% of damage, you are wrong.
                >le west is gonna pay us and shiet
                Right

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ignores all the zigger shills threads

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russia is burning 33% of its prewar gdp on its military budget. With rouble tumbling, lack of market access and their plants of all kinds getting smoked, they dont have 2 years. If they went defenskve on russian turf maybe, but its more likely russia loses belgorad and captured turf if this thing drags out.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                33% is ukranian spending on military. Russian is 6.9%. If you count all secondary and linked spending on war, it would amount to 9% by super high estimates of western experts. You Black folk cried about how sanctions will destroy russia, now you cry about ruble even thougg ukranian currency has lost much more value than ruble. Country this big cannot collapse in 21st century. Dont take some unemployed morons take and pose yourself as master of economics

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If the Russian economy is so strong, why are they now trading in Chinese Yuan instead of Roubles?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because that is how foreign trade works?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Foreign trade works by divesting in your local currency and adopting another country's currency.
                Yeah, okay, got it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just like russia adopted rupee as its national currency when they were trsding with india. Stop being a moronic monkey

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your point about Russia not being able to trade in Roubles because no one accepts it is that it's actually a good thing because, in the past, Russia also couldn't trade with the Rouble, so instead adopted the Rupee?
                Do you ever stop and read what the frick you're saying? Like just say it out loud, run it back a few times?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your point about Russia not being able to trade in Roubles because no one accepts it is that it's actually a good thing because, in the past, Russia also couldn't trade with the Rouble, so instead adopted the Rupee?
                Do you ever stop and read what the frick you're saying? Like just say it out loud, run it back a few times?

                I'm still trying to wrap my head around this one, the copium is too fricking pure and I am overdosing right now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's how it works now

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By the way, the answer you were supposed to say is "because no one accepts the Rouble anymore, it's literally not even money".
                Not even worth the paper its printed on.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this is what pol actually believes
                I guess thats it, russia stronk and the last 3 years to the contrary have been a fluke, surely they didnt need kharkiv, kherson, refineries, 500k people, defense ministers, trade with the stans, csto, or to be the senior partner with north korea.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because russians actually retreat whwn tactics command it to avoid losses. They are not forced to hold the front with detachment teams behind them almost literally in some cases as ukranians do. Remember that video of some western mercs who tried to stop ukranians from abandoning their positions and got shot up

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Remember that video of some western mercs who tried to stop ukranians from abandoning their positions and got shot up
                No.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >russians having a working command structure and caring about mobik lives
                lol, lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Projecting so hard you saved money on a monitor

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's Storm Z?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree with everything you said. one question though.
                >almost literally in some cases
                what does this mean?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Country this big cannot collapse in 21st century
                I don’t know about that. The Soviets were in better shape after Afghanistan and they fell apart.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Soviets were spending 25% of their economy on military even during peacetime, giving away hundreds of millions to africans and south american monkeys. It was poorly ran from the moment stalin had a stroke

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                LMAO, Russia is spending more than 40% of their government expediture on the war now.

                >You Black folk cried about how sanctions will destroy russia
                Post ruble exchange rate, pidor. Post sovereign wealth fund.

                >muh ukrainian currency
                Irrelevant, western couch money is more than enough to keep Ukraine going indefinitely.

                >Country this big cannot collapse in 21st century.
                Funny, change that to 20st century and people will have said exactly the same about Russia before 1917.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia is burning 33% of its
                Government budget, idiot
                Not GDP

                33% is ukranian spending on military. Russian is 6.9%. If you count all secondary and linked spending on war, it would amount to 9% by super high estimates of western experts. You Black folk cried about how sanctions will destroy russia, now you cry about ruble even thougg ukranian currency has lost much more value than ruble. Country this big cannot collapse in 21st century. Dont take some unemployed morons take and pose yourself as master of economics

                >now you cry about ruble even thougg ukranian currency has lost much more value than ruble.
                The difference is that NATO's economy is about 25 times the size of Russia's and they can (and are) support Ukraine's entire government budget without much hardship - well, with roughly 25 times less hardship, numerically
                >Country this big cannot collapse in 21st century
                A country of any size can collapse any time
                Russians ARE suffering real bad right now, it's no joke to divert 20% of your government budget previously allocated to public services to blowing shit up, and suffering reductions in revenue, hikes in costs and have to switch over away from Western consumer goods to domestic or Chinese all at once

                t. Financial analyst

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's GDP is all going into the war though

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, GDP includes ordinary consumer spending on life. Total war is a misnomer, most civilians are spending on living their lives, not on bullets and shells.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok then. Lets see nato's willingness to spend another 300 billion on ukraine. Then another.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Remember that article claiming Ukraine will need 800 billion to soundly beat the Russians?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the USA alone spent more than that on the vastly less-popular WoT
                while suffering though a recession
                while having a president that ran on an anti-war platform
                without meaningful EU/NATO support and financing
                for 8 years

                basically why are you so poor&gay?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Right. Thats why 100 billion for ukraine took months to approve and only once it was packaged with aid for israelites. This war is not as popular.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude don't start with that shit, we all spend several hours a day reading up on this shit and we know damn well why funding for Ukraine was held up.
                Who the frick do you think you're talking to, anyways?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nato's willingness to spend another 300 billion on ukraine
                No problem mate. Remember, we have 25 times your economy. Every dollar you spend, we can spend 25 dollars more.

                By any economical measure, measure of demographic decline or the fact that their land is incurring 99% of damage, you are wrong.
                >le west is gonna pay us and shiet
                Right

                >their land is incurring 99% of damage
                What video game horseshit is this lmao
                You can't even stop Ukrainian grain exports lol

                In any case, see above. Ukraine's total government budget is only 45 billion dollars. That's like, less than 5% of the total government expenditure of NATO and the EU. They can and ARE already paying all of Ukraine's bills and can continue doing so indefinitely.

                Bring it on lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Export deal was achieved with Turkey. If they wanted to, they could. Its the same reason why gas still flows from russia to europe through pipes on ukranian soil.

                >pathetic ukies cant even stop being a transit stop for russian gas

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >another 300 billion
                Oh noes. LMAO, good job yet agian proving that you subhuman pidors are utterly clueless about the size of western economies.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Russia is losing in a war of attrition, I am giving it time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They have demographics on their side and their economics are better than Ukranians who are forced to spend 33% of their gdp on war. In war of attrition, they will win

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They do not have demographics on their side, for reasons that should be patently obvious if you knew anything about Russian demographics.
                TL;DR they already sent all of the poor people, they already sent all of the convicts, now they're sending the rich white folk, and they're not fricking happy about it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And who is ukraine sending to the front?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ukrainians, I imagine.
                Fricking whataboutism, how about you make a fricking point you're a big guy, I'm sure you'll handle it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The point is official figures of the amount of russian recruits and absense of mobilisation waves since the first one in 2022. They used to have 3.5 times the ukranian population, now its almost 4.5-5 times since a quarter of the ukies left. They have demographics advantage

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're still not understanding what the word "demographic" means. It's not the amount of people, it's who the people are.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Demographic can refer purely to size as well. You just haven't seen it used differently aside from its most prevalent meaning

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >oddly enough after we declared parts of ukraine russia we could just send the new batches of mobiks there legally!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >women and children left Ukraine in the early invasion therefore Russia gained more advantage
                Russia is conscripting women and children?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Boris Johnson clones. It's why the energy market in the UK is the most vital component in this war. Each day bong scientists are hard at work trying to refine the process to create and mature a new Boris Johnson clone to be at the peak of energy efficiency. Once those techniques are perfected, then there will be no stopping the inevitable, inexorable, "Ukrainian" march on Moscow fought entirely with their new infinite army.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I never noticed he had a suit and tie on under the MTP smock.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Trained reservists. Unlike the ziggers, the Ukrainians didn't even have to start mobilizing non-reservists yet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ukrainian people are reporting they grab teens off the streets and put them in uniform.
                T. Friend at the front.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They do not have demographics on their side
                And the Ukrainians do? Have you seen Ukraine's age pyramid?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He doesn't know what the word "demographics" means
                Ukraine is specifically recruiting older men. This is known. We know this, no one says it's untrue. And big shock, the average military age of a country purposefully recruiting older men is higher than it otherwise would've been with lower ages being recruited.
                Can you make a fricking real argument?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukraine is specifically recruiting older men
                This is true altough they don't conscrpit them exlusively. Another interesting thing is there's list of proffesions in order of usefullness for post-war rebuilding. For example civil engineers are among last to be drafted unless they are headed into specialised engineer batallions of course.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong. At current casualty ratios, demographics are on Ukraines' side. And Ukraine has a total economic advantage owing to western aid. In a war of attrition, the only possible outcome is total russian defeat.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That is so divorced from reality I don’t know what to say. We don’t have any recent census data from Ukraine because that’s a state secret, but secondary evidence points to it being a disaster situation. Casualty ratios are completely unknown; the fact that Ukraine had to GUESS at their OWN casualties means they have no fricking clue what they are for Russia outside of what they can count directly; the Pentagon already reported that they don’t have a clear picture of the frontlines because of how close together the two sides are. We just don’t know until future historians get access to secret records. But secondary evidence suggests it’s a serious problem for Ukraine and not as serious a problem for Russia.

                And all aid put together with Ukraine own’s spending (27% of GDP iirc) is DWARFED by Russia’s spending — over $400b in 2024. Notice how the U.S. will spend that amount on a single weapon program but only peanuts can somehow be found for Ukraine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >secondary evidence suggests it’s a serious problem for Ukraine and not as serious a problem for Russia
                may we see it?

                >Ukraine own’s spending (27% of GDP iirc) is DWARFED by Russia’s spending — over $400b in 2024
                Ukraine is being supported by its EU and US allies, which in turn DWARFS Russia's budget by more than an order of magnitude

                >Notice how the U.S. will spend that amount on a single weapon program but only peanuts can somehow be found for Ukraine.
                because this really is a sideshow for the USA, who is still focused on China

                modern-day Russia is a sideshow. understand that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >implying russian expenditure is sustainable
                >implying russian losses can be replaced
                >implying casualty ratios can't be inferred from observed equipment losses

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice projection, vatBlack person.

                Russia has less than a 2.5:1 advantag ein popualtion over Ukraine, and is suffering 5-10:1 casualties in the field on average.

                >Casualty ratios are completely unknown;
                To wilfully ignorant and pathetically, desperately lying vatBlack person morons like (You) only.

                >the fact that Ukraine had to GUESS at their OWN casualties
                In your dreams?

                >But secondary evidence suggests
                All avaiable evidence shows that it is a far more seirous problem for Russia. Threadly remidner that Ukraine STIL hasn't started drafting non-reservists, all while Russia has had to mobilise hundreds of thousands of them.

                And spending-wise, Ukraine is not only ahead, too, it is also guaranteed to be able to susstain its spending indefinitely through westenr aid, all while Russia is already showing signs of economic collapse even with their move towards a full war economy.

                >muh peanuts
                Notice how those peanuts are already enough to decisively outmatch the entirety of Russias economy and ensure that Russia is losing the war of attrition. LMAO, nice own goal, moron.

                Tl;dr: Yor entire post is literally nothing but nvatBlack person projection and oturight, transparent lies. Kys, vatBlack person, it'll be a more merciful fate than what awaits you when monke inevitably mobilises you and throws you to your death in a ukrainian ditch.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Technically isn't losing as it's gaining territory, but it sure doesn't feel like winning.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not how 'technically correct' works, Russia would need to be taking ground in a way that can be sustained to be "technically winning". They don't have the men or equipment to take even a single major city like Kharkiv at their expenditure rates, so all they can do is make bad trades for small towns and villages. That is not a winning strategy.

                They have demographics on their side and their economics are better than Ukranians who are forced to spend 33% of their gdp on war. In war of attrition, they will win

                And most of Russia's economy is based on a fossil fuel sector that has been an active liability for a year now taking more money to run than it makes back.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Extraction of raw materials is only 11% of russian gdp. It is not a fossil fuels economy, but the government budget is largely funded by fossil fuels because it nationalised a lot of its industry. Oil and gas represent 40% of its budget roughly. Its how it affords its military without high taxes

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tfw not a fossil fuel economy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That is export. Not domestic product. Export is like 20% of the economy at most

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thank god the rest of the economy is totally gated off from the single major export. Look at this total coincidence.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Extraction of raw materials is only 11% of russian
                With processed minerals as well it goes up to roughly 15%, by my reckoning
                You can take at least 3% off that from the reported fall in export prices i.e. China's gouging. That is about 50 billion dollars. Consider that Russia's defence budget is estimated at about 140 billion. Who says sanctions don't work?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russians had about 630 billion in reserves at the start of the war. They spent 40 billion off that in 3 years. They'll be fine. You cant be profitable when you're waging a war. USA lost 2 trillion in the middle east.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget the 50 billion dollars in frozen assets, you dishonest c**t.
                Also, lol what a bunch of poor morons

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its 300 billion that the west seized. There was about 288 billion of western assets in russia, less now. They started seizing some of them, you can check the news

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But somehow this is a good thing and based Russia is bravely winning! The economy has never been better, Rouble to the Moon!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Russia had a total of something like $800b in international financial holdings. A part of that (ie US and EU bonds) were frozen, but not seized. The West is a private ownership zone so it’s not that simple to just take someone else’s money there’s a lot to consider and deal with so they backed off. Even just freeing those assets has harmed trust in those bond markets they weren’t willing to take it any further. EU did NOT seize the interest revenue, they are using it as collateral for a LOAN to Ukraine. So if Ukraine wins they have to pay the loan back, and if Ukraine loses they can recoup the loan off of Russia and in the meantime continue to have leverage in future peace negations. Most importantly to the government the overall perception of security of the bond markets is maintained and the soft-power they represent in international affairs. Children of /k/ really struggle with this.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Here's how Russia can still get their money back

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Here's how ukraine can still win

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine won two years ago anon, everything since then is Putin pointlessly wasting lives, materiel and international standing in an extended boomer tantrum.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine won? Might want to tell that to the Ukrainians, they haven't seemed to got the memo.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was literally explained in the rest of my post, are you functionally illiterate by any chance?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody cares what you wrote, b***h.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bitch
                SAAAAAAR

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                YOU FRICKING b***h SAAR FRICK YOU BLOODY b***h

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >FRICK YOU BLOODY YOU FRICKING BLOODY BENCHOD b***h

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                FRICK YOU BLOODY!!!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >FRICK YOU BLOODY YOU FRICKING BLOODY BENCHOD b***h

                YOU FRICKING b***h SAAR FRICK YOU BLOODY b***h

                https://i.imgur.com/NKuAzXn.png

                >bitch
                SAAAAAAR

                No originality. You are boring.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And you are brown

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >(...) he said, responding to the replies on the script he and his discord gooners are following.
                Pot, kettle.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Never forget that at least two /chug/ homosexuals offed themselves after Kherson.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Man I really need the screenshots of this. I have edged to worse.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I pride myself on having as little to do with shitskins as possible, yes

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >BLOODY BENCHOD b***h
                I love watching you homosexuals seethe.

                Yeah, good point. Russia keeps losing backwards because they’re moronic.

                >We took 2 square km in 6 months at a cost of 2000 lives and 20 irreplaceable tanks a day!
                >WINNING
                The Soviet Union stockpiles are running low anon, Russia is losing. I know it's painful to realise you've been a moronic gay for 2 years but you're going to have to deal with it.
                The West is going to win this one, because it's resources are vastly larger than Russia's and Russia's only strength and real strategy, convincing other people they're weak, is starting to fail.
                The West always wins. It's time to make peace with that fact

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's true, though. For as much as pidors bang on about the 2023 summer offensive being a wash, they never seem to levy that same criticism over the absolute failure of the Russian offensive for Kyiv.
                They won the fight, and now it is inevitable for the war to be won, it's just a matter of time and politics.
                I for one, would rather be in Kyiv right now than in Moscow, that's for fricking sure.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Doubles advocate
                What stops Russia from continuing these shenanigans later?
                It still exists & will probably continue, like a wienerroach in the cold.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes
                That's why the EU is arming up
                They're preparing for the war to come

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, good point. Russia keeps losing backwards because they’re moronic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bump

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Using something as a collateral requires you own that thing, moron. In other words, the EU has seized that interest revenue. Also, they're using it as a collateral for a loan to Ukraine. Which means it's gone if Ukraine decides not to pay back the loan. Gee, do you think the Ukrainians will be paying back that loan for the sake of Russian not losing that revenue? LMAO. They're not gonna pay it back either way, and the EU will recoup that money off of Russia.

                You're beyond delusional in your coping.

                https://i.imgur.com/XFIx5zf.jpeg

                >Here's how ukraine can still win

                Doesn't take a genius or any mental gymnastics, given that outside of zigger propaganda delusions and desperate denial from moronic clowns like (You) Ukraine is currently winning the war.through inflicting lopsided and nunsustainable attrition on Russia. All while suffering little enough losses that the Ukrainian Army is growing, supported by indefinitely sustainable western aid.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good God…the REASON it’s a LOAN is BECAUSE they they want to give Russia the option of GETTING IT BACK. So if they enter negotiations and concessions are provided to get the money back the EU has the money to give back. If Ukraine turns around and not pays back the loan then they’re stealing from the EU. Honestly /k/ids shouldn’t discuss these topics.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Using something as a collateral requires you own that thing, moron
                Belgian lawgay here, which is kind of strangely relevant because most of that money is stuck under belgian jurisdiction.
                You don't need to be the owner to use something as a collateral for a loan. You'd normally need to have the permission of the owner of have power over it in some other way. The discussion would be if the belgian state, EU ect. has power over the frozen assets and their interests. But in general, yes. In the same way that the state has power over other frozen (criminal) assets.
                Now to be clear the state doesn't own the assets but they have certain duties and right concerning them. Once again you could dispute if using them as a collateral is one of those rights. But there are cases in belgian case law of the state using frozen goods as a collateral.

                thank you for reading my lawgay ramblings.
                If anyone where to want reference I'm happy to provided them but you are going to have understand French and Dutch legalese

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >EU did NOT seize the interest revenue, they are using it as collateral for a LOAN to Ukraine. So if Ukraine wins they have to pay the loan back, and if Ukraine loses they can recoup the loan off of Russia and in the meantime continue to have leverage in future peace negations
                This is correct

                Using something as a collateral requires you own that thing, moron. In other words, the EU has seized that interest revenue. Also, they're using it as a collateral for a loan to Ukraine. Which means it's gone if Ukraine decides not to pay back the loan. Gee, do you think the Ukrainians will be paying back that loan for the sake of Russian not losing that revenue? LMAO. They're not gonna pay it back either way, and the EU will recoup that money off of Russia.

                You're beyond delusional in your coping.

                [...]
                Doesn't take a genius or any mental gymnastics, given that outside of zigger propaganda delusions and desperate denial from moronic clowns like (You) Ukraine is currently winning the war.through inflicting lopsided and nunsustainable attrition on Russia. All while suffering little enough losses that the Ukrainian Army is growing, supported by indefinitely sustainable western aid.

                >In other words, the EU has seized that interest revenue
                temporarily
                you're nitpicking
                >do you think the Ukrainians will be paying back that loan for the sake of Russian not losing that revenue? LMAO
                other anon is correct; for the sake of financial stability, they might do just that
                though the EU will be helping Ukraine anyway so it's shifting money from one pocket to the other as far as the EU is concerned
                nonetheless, it's the principle of the thing, and that's very important

                think of it as the financial equivalent of not doing warcrimes. or at least, not taking the gloves off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And every bit of it that wasn't held in gold or yuan was gone on the first day

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >NOOOOO, RUSSIA IS NOT A THIRD-WORLD RESOURCE EXTRACTION ECONOMY!!11!1!!
                Lol. LMAO, even.

                Russians had about 630 billion in reserves at the start of the war. They spent 40 billion off that in 3 years. They'll be fine. You cant be profitable when you're waging a war. USA lost 2 trillion in the middle east.

                Cool story, bro.

                Germany went over 10 years of strong growth based on military spending until the ecenomic weaknesses started to appear in earnest. An unlike Germany the Russians have 75 trillion dollars with of mineral reserves sitting underground AND close economic ties with an industrial power. They can keep military-based economic growth going for a lot longer than what /k/ hopes.

                >growth
                Outside the Kremlins fantasy numbers, Russias economy has been shrinking since the start of the war. You're utterly delusional, pidor.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              2 MORE WEEKS

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The burgers prove it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >quoted the wrong post
              Oh no no no!
              NAFOtroons are moronic ahhahahh

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >believing russian GDP figures
          Post ruble exchange rate.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The number's fake anyway, you CAN'T trade the Rouble, it's literally not even money.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Russia's GDP per capita can be found on the IMF's website, my guy.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              and from where does the IMF get those GDP numbers

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                IMF does staff estimates, they don't just take what a government says at face value.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                IMF does not publish those staff estimates as official data

                They HAVE come up with commentary highlighting the suspected discrepancy but they publish the figures Moscow gives them as the reference figures nonetheless
                >they gave them the propaganda number

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Precisely
                From Moscow

                Russians had about 630 billion in reserves at the start of the war. They spent 40 billion off that in 3 years. They'll be fine. You cant be profitable when you're waging a war. USA lost 2 trillion in the middle east.

                >Russians had about 630 billion in reserves at the start of the war. They spent 40 billion off that in 3 years.
                60% of the funds is in stocks. Stocks are not cash. They'd have to find a ready buyer for those stocks, and there would be a significant discount.
                >They'll be fine
                They'll experience a steady deterioration in quality of life until they break. Already are. That's how you start out a war rolling over Poland and end up eating ersatzbrot.

                Either way, always remember; any hardship inflicted on the Russian people, Ukrainians, Europeans and Americans are feeling it 25 times less. That's the power of GDP.

                Export deal was achieved with Turkey. If they wanted to, they could. Its the same reason why gas still flows from russia to europe through pipes on ukranian soil.

                >pathetic ukies cant even stop being a transit stop for russian gas

                So Russia is forced to sell cheaper oil and gas to its enemies despite earlier vowing a blockade, and this is a win?
                Buddy, Topwar.ru commenters are less deluded than you are

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Germany went over 10 years of strong growth based on military spending until the ecenomic weaknesses started to appear in earnest. An unlike Germany the Russians have 75 trillion dollars with of mineral reserves sitting underground AND close economic ties with an industrial power. They can keep military-based economic growth going for a lot longer than what /k/ hopes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That only works when you don't have the top embezzling 90% of funds

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Germany went over 10 years of strong growth based on military spending until the ecenomic weaknesses started to appear in earnest
                and the same will happen to Russia
                >unlike Germany the Russians have 75 trillion dollars with of mineral reserves sitting underground
                also unlike Germany, they are unable to access those reserves since they've been extracting it with Western mining and processing equipment, and are unable to regenerate that plant as they wear out due to sanctions
                >AND close economic ties with an industrial power
                what, China?
                the same China selling you golf carts and inflicting a 20% discount on Russian petroleum?
                that "buddy" of yours?
                lol
                lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the same China selling you golf carts and inflicting a 20% discount on Russian petroleum?
                I find that china thing hilarious. The western powers, the enemy of Russia, had a $60 price cap. They chose $60 so that Russia could still make a small amount of profit while selling oil. Mean while, China, the closest thing to a friend Russia has, demands their oil be so cheap that Russia lose money to even drill it out of the earth. It's shit like this that make me laugh at the idea of a unified BRICS.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You mean the Kremlins worthless propaganda numbers can be found on the IMF's website.

              Also, not what I asked. Post ruble exchange rate, pidor.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It improved last night actually due to the dollar dropping.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine doesn’t claim to be the second greatest super power in the world.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Russia broke the dream of the US having a worthy rival

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        China exists, you know? Give it a decade to complete its modernisation.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >China
          No amount of Pentagon shilling will make me believe that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why would the United States' military headquarters shill for a hostile foreign power?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >why would the military justify its defense budget
              The military would lie to keep its defense budget. They been trying to keep it consistent since the budget cut(in terms of GDP) in the 90s and 2000s.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, China's already done and headed for a long period of Japanification

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not the worst fate, considering Japan is the 4th largest economy in the world with only 125 million people.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Japan is the 4th largest economy
              Not anymore. Try to keep up

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >PPP
                oh yeah its thirdie oclock

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >POOR PEOPLE POINTS
                Implessive!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >PPP
                Frick off, slant-yed c**t.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                PPP has become increasingly outdated as globalisation means that people everywhere (except the Global south and utter shitholes) buy roughly the same goods and services

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's not what I said

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              honestly if they japanified they'd probably end up actually doing this shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't like Russia

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slavaboos make threads saying how great Russian equipment is
      >flood the catalog
      >turns out Russian equipment is hot garbage
      >/k/ experiences schadenfreude
      >/misc/ tries to claim Russia is winning
      See picrel

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much

        I wonder why this board is so pro-Ukrainian.

        Ukraine has its problems, but I respect that they're trying to turn over a new leaf, and that Russia is trying to oppress them and keep them tied to the CSTO shithole because reasons. Nobody in their right mind supports Russia. Leaving aside the question of Mearsheimeresque great power competition, Russia is an AIDS-ridden, krokodil-ridden, poverty-ridden shithole that tramples on the rights of the common man in the street. It's the fricking Thailand of the West. Imagine bringing up a family in a place like that. Your son would be raped in the army and your daughter would have to prostitute herself. Frickin hell, what a life.

        But that's /misc/ considerations.
        From a pure /k/ perspective it is as anon said, us Cold War warriors are just enjoying watching the vaunted T-80s and T-90s they were boasting about being utterly crushed in a mere proxy war.
        (Reminder that not a single NATO pilot in a single fighter jet has launched a single AMRAAM at a Russian plane, and they've already lost over a hundred combat jets.)
        Humiliating such a blowhard of a bully with both hands tied behind one's back... priceless.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Turn over a new leaf? They overthrew their democratic government, suspended elections, and are ruled by a israeli actor.

          You are a state dept shill. Post Virginia drivers license.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He was legally kicked out after he ran to daddy Putin

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They stormed the capitol. Weren’t you seething about Zognald do the same thing three years ago?
              You dumb troglodyte lmfao.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Weren’t you seething about Zognald do the same thing three years ago?
                It must have slipped my memory but surely you have some evidence of this right.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/IZo6QAe.jpeg

                >You didn’t know Zelensky was israeli
                We already knew a lot of world leaders were israelites, silly.

                I remember FSB sneaking in and shooting people

                >supporting israelites
                Uh huh.
                What’s your address again?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But I don’t support Putin

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn't remember his own mother's address
                Sad

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I doubt anyone else lives in Calgary, anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I remember FSB sneaking in and shooting people

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it doesn't help that every time they have an opinion about a weapon they're just wrong

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Basically this
        /misc/ has always viewed /k/ as its colony for some reason and it pisses them off that people here disagree

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why are gun owners anti home invader?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Basically it comes down to a few things:
      In the West we view attacking a far weaker country to be shameful, as seen as bullying and dishonourable to fight a lesser opponent.

      The Left in the west are generally anti-war and any country that invades another, even with provocation is disliked by that section of of the population.

      The Right operate on a "Might is Right" mindset, effectively that behaviour, even if shameful is correct, if it benefits the people. However, Russia has proven that it's not particularly mighty, and this humiliation has made the country seem weak and pathetic, leading to the reversal of this opinion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The Left in the west are generally anti-war and any country that invades another, even with provocation is disliked by that section of of the population.
        >The Right operate on a "Might is Right" mindset,
        This is your brain on community college.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate /misc/tards and brown people

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's not to like about the Ukrainians? They're defending themselves from invasion successfully against a country full of liars, thieves and murderers who bragged about being the world's second superpower. Meanwhile the Russians are now reduced to begging the fricking Norks for ammo and hoping the U.S. election goes in their favor so they can stop sending their men in golf carts to get blown up by drones. You could not write a Tom Clancy novel that is more ridiculous and one-sided than the reality. Frick Russia, they're a fricking joke.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think I speak for everyone when I say we hate when subhuman Black folk cause death and destruction while also taunting other civilized nations with nook nook noooooooooks. Anyone that looks at Russia and says "Yeah, they want to nuke me but they're totally the good guys" probably aren't the "me" the Russians want to nook

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have you ever had the missfortune to interact with Russians?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I play Dying Light and there's no shortage of Russians on there, but they were all pretty chill.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          These pro-ukies have actually never met russians

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >10 heckin wholesome encounters with Russians that will make you say "I wish more mobiks were raping and eating Ukrainian children"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's impossible to meet a real Russian unless you go to Russia.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only russians I've met that were okay were actually very cautious about disclosing their nationality. If you talk to anyone in the service industry that works in tourist areas you'll know why, their degenerate behaviour isn't limited to this war you know.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              One thing noticeable about Russian tourists is how wasteful they are, especially at buffets. I recall one family putting a massive pile of meat on their toddler's plate every day, who'd take five bites and everything else had to be thrown away.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let me ask you this, is it acceptable to shoot a home invader in your house?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on your morals, but personally I would say yes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you think most people on /k/ would agree with your position, that it's ok to shoot a home invader?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I turned pro ukraine I realized this war is a part of greater global third-worldist plot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this. just look at the fricking live comments on the putin kim meeting

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nigerians with snow obviously getting good commetns from nocs...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's pretty much equivalent to shooting home invaders, ie. justified self-defense, vatniks spammed this place for like 10 years about how great everything Russian was, and this board still retains a bit of it's old libertarian bent, and thus doesn't have much patience for le based and tradpilled AIDS capital of Europe, /leftypol/ commie, and Duginist thirdie schizo shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why do people like to be on the morally right side?
      uhhh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’m not American, I’m not European, I am from a borderline third world country where you cannot drink tap water and is barely below Russia in gdp.

      I hate Russians because they remind me of everything wrong with my country, because every day have to deal with people who seethe at any one more fortunate than them, who blame everyone around them for their misfortune and never try to improve their lives and who celebrate anything bad that happens to anyone they consider less deserving than them.

      I hate that the Soviet Union exported their cancerous ideology to my continent, funding subversive political parties and even armed movements just to use us in their feud against the United States.

      I hate that every immigrant from Cuba and Venezuela I have ever met speaks of nothing but misery, poverty and scarcity, yet their governments keep being supported by Russia.

      I hate that when the invasion started, the same people I fricking despise celebrated as if somehow this was going to benefit them in any way and was a victory against their imaginary enemies.

      I hate that, despite never having been called “unfriendly” by Russia, their subversive, divisive propaganda rhetoric has affected us all the same.

      I hate that our current president has spent his entire time in office repeating the same tired points as Russia supporters, while behind closed doors his party worships bastards like Stalin, Castro and Mao Zedong.

      I hate that, despite how much they cry about Russophobia and NATO aggression, a little research will show their entire history is nothing but abusing, stealing from and oppressing everyone and anyone around them.
      (1/1)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying russian expenditure is sustainable
        >implying russian losses can be replaced
        >implying casualty ratios can't be inferred from observed equipment losses

        [...]
        (2/2)
        I hate that, although the United States has done plenty of shit I don’t like, I can’t go on the internet without seeing morons justify everything that Russia or china or Iran do because “what about ‘murica?”, who they blame for everything bad with the world.

        I hate that my favourite board can’t go a single day without middle school dropout shitskins flooding it with obnoxious, deranged spam.

        I hate that they flat out scammed us.

        But above all, I hate that these morons, these dregs of society with nothing to contribute see Russia as a validation of their mentality and actions, that they idealise their dysfunctional society and system and think that somehow Russia attempting to cannibalise Ukraine is somehow going to fix the world and all of their lives problems.

        So you see, I hate Russians because they are not a nation, they are not a society and they are not a civilisation, they are a horde of rapists, murderers, thieves, liars, criminals, cheats, scammers, terrorists, abusers, drunks, drug addicts and oppressors crossdressing as a country. They have never contributed anything to humanity and their main export is, has always been and will always be misery.

        That is why Russia needs to be beaten into the ground and never allowed to get back up, why every Russian soldier must be tried as a war criminal, why everyone responsible for this war must be executed, why every Russia supporter in the west must be persecuted as a traitor, why every single man, woman and child needs to have permanently etched into their minds and that they are a vile, disgusting race that will never be allowed to be part of mankind, that they are complicit of every atrocity in Russian history and that everything that happens to them is a direct consequence of their country’s actions.

        I am a moderate btw.

        not as much as the average poltroon is with transgenderism and interracial porn, have a nice day homosexual

        Using something as a collateral requires you own that thing, moron. In other words, the EU has seized that interest revenue. Also, they're using it as a collateral for a loan to Ukraine. Which means it's gone if Ukraine decides not to pay back the loan. Gee, do you think the Ukrainians will be paying back that loan for the sake of Russian not losing that revenue? LMAO. They're not gonna pay it back either way, and the EU will recoup that money off of Russia.

        You're beyond delusional in your coping.

        [...]
        Doesn't take a genius or any mental gymnastics, given that outside of zigger propaganda delusions and desperate denial from moronic clowns like (You) Ukraine is currently winning the war.through inflicting lopsided and nunsustainable attrition on Russia. All while suffering little enough losses that the Ukrainian Army is growing, supported by indefinitely sustainable western aid.

        You mean the Kremlins worthless propaganda numbers can be found on the IMF's website.

        Also, not what I asked. Post ruble exchange rate, pidor.

        they'll never respond btw, now that they've successfully got the thread to autosage in... impressive... 91 minutes, an average of 3.5 posts per minute. hot topic i guess.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’m not American, I’m not European, I am from a borderline third world country where you cannot drink tap water and is barely below Russia in gdp.

      I hate Russians because they remind me of everything wrong with my country, because every day have to deal with people who seethe at any one more fortunate than them, who blame everyone around them for their misfortune and never try to improve their lives and who celebrate anything bad that happens to anyone they consider less deserving than them.

      I hate that the Soviet Union exported their cancerous ideology to my continent, funding subversive political parties and even armed movements just to use us in their feud against the United States.

      I hate that every immigrant from Cuba and Venezuela I have ever met speaks of nothing but misery, poverty and scarcity, yet their governments keep being supported by Russia.

      I hate that when the invasion started, the same people I fricking despise celebrated as if somehow this was going to benefit them in any way and was a victory against their imaginary enemies.

      I hate that, despite never having been called “unfriendly” by Russia, their subversive, divisive propaganda rhetoric has affected us all the same.

      I hate that our current president has spent his entire time in office repeating the same tired points as Russia supporters, while behind closed doors his party worships bastards like Stalin, Castro and Mao Zedong.

      I hate that, despite how much they cry about Russophobia and NATO aggression, a little research will show their entire history is nothing but abusing, stealing from and oppressing everyone and anyone around them.
      (1/1)

      (2/2)
      I hate that, although the United States has done plenty of shit I don’t like, I can’t go on the internet without seeing morons justify everything that Russia or china or Iran do because “what about ‘murica?”, who they blame for everything bad with the world.

      I hate that my favourite board can’t go a single day without middle school dropout shitskins flooding it with obnoxious, deranged spam.

      I hate that they flat out scammed us.

      But above all, I hate that these morons, these dregs of society with nothing to contribute see Russia as a validation of their mentality and actions, that they idealise their dysfunctional society and system and think that somehow Russia attempting to cannibalise Ukraine is somehow going to fix the world and all of their lives problems.

      So you see, I hate Russians because they are not a nation, they are not a society and they are not a civilisation, they are a horde of rapists, murderers, thieves, liars, criminals, cheats, scammers, terrorists, abusers, drunks, drug addicts and oppressors crossdressing as a country. They have never contributed anything to humanity and their main export is, has always been and will always be misery.

      That is why Russia needs to be beaten into the ground and never allowed to get back up, why every Russian soldier must be tried as a war criminal, why everyone responsible for this war must be executed, why every Russia supporter in the west must be persecuted as a traitor, why every single man, woman and child needs to have permanently etched into their minds and that they are a vile, disgusting race that will never be allowed to be part of mankind, that they are complicit of every atrocity in Russian history and that everything that happens to them is a direct consequence of their country’s actions.

      I am a moderate btw.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I hate that they flat out scammed us.
        Tldr?
        I remember Russia fricking over who was it, Mexico or Brazil, where Russia in exchange for tech or food or something, paid with nonfunctionall military equipment, then tried to pay it off with food, only for all of it to be rotten, so the Russians promised to get rid of it and dumped it on top of a coral reef.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mexico

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is there an article that covers the incident?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And I wonder why anyone on this planet is pro-Russian. I genuinely hope they do something so dumb in Ukraine the West has no option but to glass them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate Black folk which is most of /misc/ unironically. When you get called a israeli shill for saying mus,ims are trash and need to get the frick out of europe and america its time to examine the brown voice that criticizes you and his real motives.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"WHY ARE YOU RESISTING?!" JUST LET ME INVADE YOUR HOME AND RAPE YOU! STOP RESISTING!"

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well anon, if Russia didn't lose, they'd be in control of Kharkiv, wouldn't they?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They packed up and left. There were no Russian deaths. It’s actually disgusting how blatantly Ukraine lies in its propaganda.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Indian puts his two biggest fears in one image

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not the skibidilenski toilet

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ukies were the ones encircled or at least cut off from supply in the high rise commieblocks north. Russians were too, but they established supply few days ago. Ukies themselves posted videos of droning russians going back and forth from the factory. Most mappers show that russians control the corridor to the factory

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No they don't. Stop inventing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukies were the ones encircled
      >literally no u
      really? really?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rouble value halved overnight last week, please understand this is the best they can afford

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >muh currency
          Only westerners hold money in such high regard. This is the wrong way to look at things.
          You won’t be saved by GDP or $DXY

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Only westerners hold money in such high regard
            Money is the measure of things you can do. Hope this helps, sir.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > Money is the measure of things you can do.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >affects the world vastly more than the entirety of pol
                yeah

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Schumer can’t even wipe his own ass. He is useless. The burgers prove it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And yet he has more affect on our world than you ever will

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >this is the best cope he has
            Yeah, unironically we will be, because usd and eur are like 3/4s of the all traded currencies. This is how russia can burn a third of its total gdp and not advance against nato pocket change

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And Russians won't be saved. At all.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You goin there, anon?
              Talking tough, bud.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You call Russia a shithole but its GDP per capita is nearly 3x that of Ukraine's.

            The tale of two vattrannies

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Money is a western vice, you materialist dog.
            Money gets you power, if you have enough of it, atleast in the west.
            In non western shitholes money doesn't mean shit. Your allegiance to a party/dictator gets you power and that in turn gets you money.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >itt, moron who doesn't understand what money actually is, or how it works on a macro-scale

            https://i.imgur.com/FMgQKqR.jpeg

            >B-B-BUT MUH CASUALTY RATIOS!!!
            Good job on those, now face the wall.

            No Lend-Lease winning the war for you this time, subhuman.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Look north of the factory where about couple hundred ukranian troops are located in the high rise commieblocks. Then look how territory on 3 sides is controlled by russians, whilst the only roads out can be clearly seen and fired upon from russian side as well. They are cut off and resupplied with drones at most.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Russians gained land.
    Casualties don't matter, they can be trading at 2x casualty ratios compared to the Ukies and those are winning trades for Russia

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Define "winning" without referring back to territorial gains.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bleeding out Ukraine. They don't have much life left in them.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine is running out of men
          >Ukraine refuses to conscript 25 year olds
          Your statements contradict. 0/2 now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          On what timescale does Russia expect to bleed Ukraine of manpower?
          Two weeks? Twenty years? A century?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Trump election.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Assuming Trump would cut aid to Ukraine, which is a big if, how many years do you actually think Ukraine would be able to last?
              Where I'm going with this is to make realize your delusional thinking; this war will not end tomorrow, it is the new reality.
              You want a quick solution, you want the easy victory, but it's not going to happen.
              So either you let go of the ego and you take things as they are, or you continue to live your life of falsehoods and delirium.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                one, two years tops

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well I'm glad it's so simple, then.
                Except you know that it's fricking not. This war can go for decades before either side has serious manpower issues, but the political consequences cannot be ignored. It is known that Russia is facing many internal problems that Ukraine is not, the most important of which being the political and ethnographic schism between the wealthy elite in Moscow and St-Petersburg and the lowly peasants being sent to the front-lines.
                What is happening is a forging of a Ukrainian identity, and the collapse of the Russian identity. The territories of Russia will fragment and become highly autonomous, borders drawn on religious and cultural lines.
                How can you look at this scenario and not see the writing on the wall? What purpose does it serve to delude your own self?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                95% of Russians wouldn't even be able to tell there's a war going on if they didn't turn on the TV
                meanwhile hohols have been living in hell
                who is gonna break first?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Meanwhile they've moved to a war economy and act like they're at the front at all times while literally selling chunks of their land to China(lol) to stay solvent

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You keep inventing a context in which your point of view would be valid, while conveniently omitting any facts that might shatter your illusions of Russian supremacy.

                Btw, if Russia is winning, why is it stooping so low and proposing a cease-fire? Putin must really be weak these days to show such subordination.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's a psychological tactic to assist the western far right parties

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Forcing people to "live in hell" doesn't make them break, anon. If anything, it just makes the populace more determined to fight you. Military history has proven this over and over again.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >who is gonna break first?
                At this rate? Russias economy, to such a degree that all those Russians at home will be looking back fondly to the good times of the early 90's.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Too ba dthat Russia is bleeding out faster, and already has less life left in them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Casualties don't matter, they can be trading at 2x casualty ratios compared to the Ukies and those are winning trades for Russia
      Post Snake Island
      Post 1st Guards Tank Army
      Post 4th Guards Tank Division
      Post 3rd Army Corps
      Post Northern Front
      Post Hostomel x3
      Post Moskva
      Post Odessa landings
      Post zig zag trenches with grenade sumps & basic fortifications
      Post missiles that hit their target
      Post Russian soldier that hasn't had their butthole resized
      Post negative HIV test
      Post relatives over the age of 62
      Post encrypted comms
      Post unexpired rations
      Post undeflated spare tire
      Post tourniquets with windlass mechanism
      Post optics
      Post NVGs
      Post AA systems that don’t get mogged by drones
      Post living VDV & Spetznatz with all limbs intact
      Post SIM card (not the game)
      Post sugar
      Post bread
      Post cheese
      Post eggs
      Post non defaulted currency
      Post raw goods processing industry
      Post domestic semiconductor manufacturing
      Post Nord Stream pipeline
      Post Baltic Sea control
      Post river crossings without double digit casualty rates
      Post aircraft not routinely gibbed by MANPADs
      Post sensor suites in a non-potato resolution
      Post competent NCO corps
      Post bridges & pontoons
      Post control of the Black Sea
      Post Russians being cool with returning to a pre-industrial agrarian economy
      Post Finland & Sweden now being NATO members
      Post how Russians feel about being viewed as slightly better than North Korea
      Post families receiving money for the death of their sons & fathers
      Post any positive outcome Russian can expect even if they 'win'
      Post Lyman
      Post Izyum
      Post Kharkiv
      Post Kherson
      Post commercial shipping insurance
      Post Prigozhin
      Post Crimean S-400
      Post airbases & ammo depots NOT on fire
      Post Kilo submarine & landing vessel
      Post Sevastopol drydocks
      Post IL76 with POW corpses
      Post ICBM factory
      Post Wagner abroad
      Post Tsezar Kunikov
      Post A-50 x2
      Post gas exports
      Post Sergei Kotov, Kovrove, Tsiklon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post Bakhmutt

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Anon posts whole tome of vatnoid losses
          >p-post ACKmut
          Friendly remind that Ukraine took more ground in their failed counteroffensive in Zaporizhzhia than ziggoids took in the Great Escape from Kharkov Offensive

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Let’s tally up total territorial gains.
            Hmmm. Looks like Russia has way more.
            It’s over. Ukraine has lost.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they can be trading at 2x casualty ratios compared to the Ukies and those are winning trades
      >2x casualty ratios
      That'll be the fricking day

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Buhanka genocide continues

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Casualties don't matter, they can be trading at 2x casualty ratios compared to the Ukies
      Shame they are trading 1:5 on the low end then

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they can be trading at 2x casualty ratios compared to the Ukies and those are winning trades for Russia
      I mean he isn’t lying, at 2.4 it’s a proportionally even trade. Too bad it’s on average at 3+

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Considering they had to give China land that is 10x their current gains to avoid them invading just this week, I don't think it was a good tradeoff.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Salsa?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You mean Kharkov?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, Op, Zigger.

    A Pyrrhic victory is still a victory!!

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Did the Russians actually lose at Kharkiv
    Yes, and managed to capture less ground than Ukraine did in their failed counteroffensive in the south last year.
    >was the whole thing blown out of proportion for Ukie propaganda?
    Why would Russia brag about the Great Kharkov Offensive for Ukrainian benefit?

    Russia got slapped around harder than they thought they would and folded a few kilometers past their border, Red Storm Rising style. Again.
    The bragging went from
    >xaxaxa Kharkov will be Russian soon
    to
    >uhh, xaxaxaxa VOVCHANSK SOON, hohohohololololols
    to
    >is operation to establish buffer crumple zone, stoopid wectoid
    to
    >silence
    soon to be memoryholed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dont think literally anyone is thinking russia will go capture Kharkov now. To capture a city this large, they would need a massive force. At most they will seek to gain territory to move the front away from Belgorod, but since Ukranians are amassing forces at large, most likely the russians will go on defensive now. Ideally they would like to finish off northern volchansk with only the "citadel" of multiple commieblocks standing in the way now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Buddy. They were posting KHARKIV SOON, within minutes of it starting and claiming that there were no defenses.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And ukies claimed RDK was going to Belgorod. So what

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >muh raiding force is equivalent to 50k man offensive
            Boil your tap water lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Buddy. They were posting KHARKIV SOON
          no they didn't. they would've been posting "kharkov soon", since kharkov is the actual name of the city, you know. and no, russians most definitely didn't intend to capture the city of 1.5mln people with just 10k troops. that's just you acribing them maximalist goals in order to build a narrative that they failed later on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And ukies claimed RDK was going to Belgorod. So what

            Oh, it's actual /leftypol/ troons lmao.
            I thought it was fishy that you keep saying things as though they haven't been known and said on /k/ since the beginning of the op.

            I'm sorry to inform you revisionism doesn't work on autists, now kindly frick back off to your discord and reee about the "NATO board" not bending to your shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >people who don't live there can dictate the name a foreign city.
            If Ukraine wanted to change its name to Candyland tomorrow then the city is now fricking Candyland. This is the most lazy shill argument I've ever heard, just acquire a brain.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >getting droned in the lollipop woods
              >abandoning a tank in the licorice lagoon
              >digging up soil contaminated by peppermint

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                KEK
                >pressing the doorbell on the Gingerbread Tree

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i mean i would have pressed it too, though maybe with a stick first.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >LORD LICORICE! KING KANDY! WHERE IS THE FRICKING (Peanut)SHELLS

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >kharkov is the actual name of the city
            Russian spelling of the Ukrainian city name. Nah. It's Kharkiv.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I dont think literally anyone is thinking russia will go capture Kharkov now.
        No, ziggers have finally adjusted to reality and realize it's just not happening.
        >To capture a city this large, they would need a massive force.
        We know. I and *many* other anons here were telling vatnoids that Russia isn't taking shit with the ~50k personnel they had earmarked for this op, they would've needed ~300k.
        > At most they will seek to gain territory to move the front away from Belgorod
        Like I said:
        >">is operation to establish buffer crumple zone, stoopid wectoid"
        Yes, I know the cope has shifted, I mentioned it explicitly.
        >Ideally they would like to finish off northern volchansk
        Russia is proven through reconnaissance to be trying to establish proper defense lines north of Vovchansk, but the engineering crews have already started being interdicted by GMLRS, arty, and FPVs. The ability for Ukraine to interdict in Russian territory for the defense of Kharkiv mean it's not going to be easy in the slightest for Russia to hold defenses in north of Vovchansk.

        The entire op is a waste of time, materiel, and manpower and now they're trying to save face by making token efforts before the inevitable Gesture of Goodwill™.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >B-B-BUT MUH CASUALTY RATIOS!!!
    Good job on those, now face the wall.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >B-B-BUT MUH INTERDIMENSIONAL HYPERFORTRESS BUTTFRICKIVKA!
      Yes yes, very impressive Russia, HOWEVER

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the whole thing was and is just a distraction
    they know ukies have manpower issues and want to stretch them out

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia lost.
    It was never meant to be a serious attempt, Russia just wanted to bait out a favorable attrition battle by threatening a key city while attacking from a position where Ukraine was not allowed to shoot back.

    Meanwhile Ukraine finally received some ammunition, and they were allowed to shoot back.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Losing implies there was some coherent objective to begin with. At best we have some moronation about "buffer zones."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So it’s just random chimping out but instead of missile spam it’s meat waves?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You could be generous and say it was meant to force Ukraine into spreading out its defenses, but wouldn't the point of that be making a breakthrough somewhere else?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes that’s the point. One of two actually:
          1. Drain enemy reserves so that they can’t take the initiative
          2. Combined with a general offensive across the rest of the front to hopefully create breakthrough conditions somewhere

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok, so where is the breakthrough?

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A breakdown of events:
    1. Russians mass troops on the border north of Kharkiv, analysts believe they will push in to force Ukraine to drain their reserves.
    2. Russian attack across the border as expected. However there was no defenses in place allowing them to advance much further then expected.
    3. Ukies mount an emergency defense draining reserves and forcing them to build fortifications while under fire. An investigation iis opened to figure out why defenses were not in place.
    4. Leading units of the Russian forces over-extend and and are forced back to more defensible positions. Ukies try to present this as a win and not a disaster.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And the Russians will capitalize on these "drained reserves" when, exactly?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >4. Leading units of the Russian forces over-extend and and are forced back to more defensible positions. Ukies try to present this as a win and not a disaster.
      >defensible positions
      you mean all those one-horse towns only a mile or two from the border? I see what you mean, clearly it must be devastating for Ukraine to lose such mega-hyper-ultra-dimensional fortresses of doom with such little resistance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >to drain their reserves.
      To what end, Clausewitz?
      >Ukies try to present this as a win and not a disaster.
      You still keep trying to pretend ziggoids weren't literally shitting this place up with spam threads about KHARKOV SOON, HOLOLOLHOHOLOHOHOLS and it's mildly amusing.
      You're trying to retcon events people here have *very* sharp memory for. It's utterly pointless but amusing to watch you try, anyway.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukies mount an emergency defense draining reserves and forcing them to build fortifications while under fire
      haha what
      Look, purely as a fixing action what the RU MoD did was "successful" near Kharkiv, as it lead to UKR bombass reserves being reallocated north. However they're not doing anything other than providing a backstop and rotation pool.
      Which is what they would be doing in the south anyway.

      Therefore, the success of this is proportional to the RU MoD simply leaving it as a fixing action. Moving their OWN bombass forces north would defeat the purpose of this entire gambit.
      >oh, wait

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, Russia simply exploited a bug that's been patched

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh drained reserves
      Well, it sure is visibly draining RUSSIAS reserves now, as they're desperately scrambling to try and stop the ukrainian counterattacks.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The pathetic, forced revisionism makes me think it's /leftytroons/ but it could be unironic diaspora homosexuals, tbdesu.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it’s the Siberian Croatia diaspora

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this just happened in the Kharkiv direction

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate that Magyar-gay and his phoneposting. Just release the raw footage you moronic boomer!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There were a lot of 'people' calling Magyar a homosexual. You can watch them on his videos.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >le west is gonna pay us and shiet
    >Thank the West for that, tens of billions in financial aid and plenty of military equipment sure helps.

    Oi lmao.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I believe ziggers refer to it as a "feint"

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    notice how the relentless vatnikposting quit the instant the thread saged

    really rustled their jimmies lmao

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukrainian leadership admits they are clearly losing
    >invites Putin to the next Peace Conference
    >West has given total permission to use western weapons on Russia state targets
    >Russia still holds east Ukraine
    >Zelensky crying for another 800 billion
    >Russia has more shells
    >Russia had more aircraft
    >Russia has more men
    Russia has won. Only dumb chimps can’t see it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then why are russians still dying (and killing themselves) in increasingly more hilarious ways.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukrainian leadership admits they are clearly losing
      Then you should be able to back your claims with an easy-to-find article that clearly states so, that you didn't include in your shitpost.
      >invites Putin to the next Peace Conference
      You didn't elaborate.
      >Russia still holds east Ukraine
      And how does that help Russia when Ukranians keep firing on targets in there?
      >Zelensky crying for another 800 billion
      Random numbers dropped in without context or further elaboration.
      >Russia has more shells
      >Russia had more aircraft
      >Russia has more men
      Same shilling points troted out at the start of the war. Didn't win them the war then, it won't win them the war now.

      Don't claim that your shit is better because it came out of your ass.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia had more aircraft
      >had
      That’s a very bad thing for Russia

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Judging by the seething turdies in this thread they lost hard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Assuming you are American, you would be seething as well if Biden kneeled to Cuba to get support for invading Mexico.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Still can't believe we live in a timeline where Russia has had to spread its legs for the who's-who list of thirdie dictators for ammo and gibs in a war against *Ukraine*.
        If you told me this shit in 2010 I'd have lmao'd and slapped you for your moronation.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          even four fricking years ago i think a lot of people would assume that russia could theoretically drown any neighbor in a horde of tanks. of what quality was questionable, but they'd at least be able to just push a nearly endless wave of them out there.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn, guess by Zigger seethe vatniks had massive casualties

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes it failed, they wanted to quickly grab land before US aid package arrived but it was too late.

    Himars became relevant again because russia doesnt got enough AA and EW to cover the new front they created+ atacms nullifying russian air defenses requires them to make layered setups to defend important areas, which left their kharkiv front even more exposed to drones and missile strikes like from himars.

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