Did my local govt find the loophole on front yard gardens?

Front yard vegetable gardens are protected by FL state law, but my local municipality has set a plant height limit of 9” which pretty much bans front yard vegetable gardening.

I am arguing with code enforcement now that they are still enforcing a ban but saying it differently.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >build a victorian style conservatory
    >fill it with vegetable garden
    >DEA storms your house and shoot your dog thinking youre growing evil pot
    >sue govt millions for damages
    >?????
    >profit

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >OP doesn’t enter a siege situation to protect garden and dog
      >OP is too busy exchanging sexual favors with the HOA to try and keep his garden
      Checks out

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >OP gets clapped by some messican that thinks there's a grow op in the front yard.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like any trees or bushes would violate the rule as well, start reporting until the rule changes or challenge it based on unequal enforcement

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously state laws override HOA standards. This is America so force a lawsuit and get some of the money back when you win.

    Its your money; you paid it with the fricking dues, might as well cash in.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >HOA standards
      >code enforcement
      moron

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Become ungovernable. Cover your front yard with watermelons

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Then he would have a Black person problem instead and end up getting charged/fined for having a baited field.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Could you string a net at 9" to stop your plants from growing any higher? It might limit the varieties you can grow but it would work.
    Just remove it to weed or harvest.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are you stupid? Nets don't protect plants from growing they protect them from birds eating their fruits. Ever see what roots do to concrete roads?

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >any regulation regarding vegetable gardens on residential properties is void and unenforceable
    >any regulation
    Sounds like they can't set limits on plan height.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      My yard is filled with the state flower which they keep calling a weed.

      >>they are calling the damn state flower a weed b/c they don't know any better.

      I left a composed but annoyed message telling them as such and asking for a call back. They have not called back nor been back by for the reinspection to see if I complied.

      Think they gave up, or digging in more to see how they can mess with me?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Digging in more to see how they can mess with me?
        Definitely this one, record everything, document everything, and force them to respond to social pressure.
        You might have to make a facebook, but if you want to take this seriously you have to apply social pressure to them, as they don't care about anything else and especially not legal challenges.
        >Pay somebody who is big in the area to make a facebook post asking for people to help you and call them
        >Give your story to the local news
        >Have it clearly spelled out how they are banning gardens or the state flower or whatever
        >Possibly hand out fliers
        This is one of those things where unless you have social connections you're basically fricked, best you could do is make a bunch of people on facebook mad and make them look stupid, they care about social shit more than anything else and have infinite money to fight lawsuits.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    IMO your best bet is to sue them for every tree in the area that's over 9 inches tall
    >Our order excludes trees or something!
    Oh, so then it's directed towards vegetables?
    And worst-case scenario you can buy a bunch of nuts, sprout them, grow them in your front yard, and have hundreds / thousands of trees sprouting there that you sell for money while they have to look at your garden that they can't do shit about because presumably they aren't banning trees.

    In the first place I would either sue or protest because it sounds like a nonsense law.

    This is what a tree bed looks like btw, looks nearly identical but if their ordinance doesn't ban trees you can plant the trees.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Planting trees could get fun. A lot of cities have laws about needing to get permission from a city arborist before cutting down a tree. I'd be tempted to cultivate a bunch of seedlings, and plant them around my yard. After they get established, spend the next year calling the city every month or so to get permission to remove one.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm confused why you're growing corn on your front lawn, but here's the skinny on property maintenance bylaws:

        Most local governments will have some kind of property maintenance bylaw or front yard height limit or some related bylaw. The bylaw will likely phrase things in terms of safety and accessibility. So, the bylaw will say "no vegetation taller than 28" within 4' of the street-facing property line." If it's taller than 28", now it's a safety issue for pedestrians/traffic because you've effectively created a hidden driveway, which is a no-no and usually only exist because they got grandfathered. You'll also see "no semi-hard or hardwood plants, thorny plants, or other hazardous plants within 4' of a public fixture or meter" because the City doesn't want to deal with paying out a labourer who fell into your prickly pear patch.

        Your Florida legislation is somewhat strange, at least to me, because my province doesn't actively protect gardens. It's rare here for the province to sanction activities like this. Laws generally restrict activities and grant rights to a person, not to property. There are various "property rights" but more often than not they don't include gardening.

        You can take it to tribunal/whatever Americans call it, but up here that shit is expensive. I think you have an okay shot of winning it, but it's not a slam-dunk, far from it.

        I predict two possible outcomes:
        (1.) The likely outcome is that you will lose. Probably the municipality will point out that nobody can see you backing your car out of the driveway with 9' of corn in the way.
        (2.) There's a possibility that you'll win, in which case you'll keep your corn. Next year, the bylaw office and Florida State will work together to figure out a legal way to stop you from growing 9' of corn on your front lawn.

        Depends. Tree bylaws usually consider the size, age, and height of a tree. It's also illegal in many places to plant trees within a setback area.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm a Canadian giving advice on Florida municipal law
          How cute.

          what the frick are you growing thats fricking 9ft/3m high?

          Plants that can get 9 feet or use 9 feet of vertical space:
          Tomatoes
          Artichokes
          Sunflowers
          Sweetcorn
          Hops--or anything grown on a trellis like pole beans or cucumbers.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >9' of corn
          homie, there's varieties that top 20 feet, go big or go home

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >That top 20 feet
            Holy shit it's true
            >Chiapas 234 is the tallest corn in the world and can grow to be 35 feet tall.
            Frick normal corn I am never growing that shit again, why would you ever crow babydick 6 foot corn when you can grown 35 foot corn? And the world record for tallest corn is 45 feet.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >It's Just corn, bro

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Trees are probably exempt,

      HOWEVER
      (since it's Florida)

      Palm are NOT TREES

      Palm are flowering PERRENIALS in the Arecaceae family. So report every Palm as a violation and if they try to tell you palms are trees get it in writing then sue them again.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sue the municipality.
    File a harassment complaint first about being unjustly targeted for something legal than find the most israeli layer with the best record against the municipality.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what the frick are you growing thats fricking 9ft/3m high?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      9"=9 inches

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        On the internet 9"=4.5"

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