Despite being nearly 50 years old the stinger has performed incredibly well in Ukraine. Is the proliferation of MANPADS In Ukraine why there is no longer an air war in Ukraine?
Despite being nearly 50 years old the stinger has performed incredibly well in Ukraine.
Thats no excuse to like fart porn warriortard
It was just a really well built system. The longer ranges SAMs are what’s keeping the air war away
so where were they when the KF-52 was blasting leopards apart?
obviously somewhere else
It did?
No a mine disabled one while a Ka-52 was in the air causing Bradley crews to panic. Meanwhile about 1/3 of Ka-52s have been destroyed. Compare this with 6 destroyed leopards of about 71 fielded.
Why do russiand always try to spread lies like this?There were Leo2s that were damaged by mines but there is zero evidence of Ka-52 "blasting" them apart.I still remember the spam threads about mines and how they stopped the offensive.But now?They all suddenly change their narrative and claim that it was done by helicopters.
why not? It's free
a lot of ka52 were shot down by manpads you retarded turd
shooting down the other 40 alligators
A lot of older Stinger variants only have 4.6 km range, the Vikhr missile has 10-12 km range.
Most weapons in use are "50 years old" designs if you go by introduction date. M1 and Leo 2 are closing on the 50 year old mark but that doesn't mean development stopped and coincidentally they're about as old as the stinger.
They're still produced.
No, there's no air war because Ukraine has no air frames and russia can't perform SEAD or complex air operations due to being incompetent.
>Ukraine has no air frames
Migty puccia destroyed all of them on feb24, right sweetie?
If you want to argue that a squadron of MiG-29s and another of Su-24/25s and no SEAD munitions is enough to conduct complex air operations, be my guest.
They have NATO training so, yeah, odds ate pretty good that they can.
>Migty puccia destroyed all of them on feb24, right sweetie?
I mean, there's really no air war going on.
Sure Ukraine has some dispersed elements that it uses very, very carefully and Russia does do air strikes against air defence assets but in general, Ukraine has no airforce and Russia can't SEAD.
Anon is being hyperbolic but is largely correct.
Ukraine didn’t have much of an airforce at the start of the war and the donated old soviet stuff isn’t enough to make it big and strong. Just contesting the airspace is a huge achievement for a country like Ukraine
If the US had to fly rotary/CAS aviation with the number of MANPADS in Ukraine right now, they’d probably have to alter their air doctrine.
There’s been thousands of systems donated to Ukraine, and it has made the air environment extraordinarily lethal.
The su-30 kill was a feat
>Is the proliferation of MANPADS In Ukraine why there is no longer an air war in Ukraine?
manpads are cool and all but to deny area size of ukraine you need a little more range than they can provide
>Is the proliferation of MANPADS In Ukraine why there is no longer an air war in Ukraine
That, but also the fact that neither side can into SEAD properly
Why hasn’t the starstreak shared the same level of success as stingers and IGLAs in Ukraine? There was so much hype when they announced starstreak in Ukraine and then nothing for the next 2 years
Nothing other than the pile of LMM and Starstreak kills you mean fart man?
Funny how many suHispanicious posts on PrepHole mention farts and have iphone filenames...
You don't have to hit a target with a laser, the system does it itself. Did you want to have a nice day when 47th brigade used a SACLOS beam rider to shoot down a helicopter?
p.s, this looks like projection warriortard.
From peak warriortard
sensible man
@Burp00589615
May 26
Replying to @Hambubger3 @DocStrangelove2
It’s garbage. The British suck at weapons design
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@Burp00589615
May 15
Replying to @sweetbaby2354 @upby500
Can you really fart on command? Do you have an OF
The sooner you have a nice day the better warriortard, the world is better without deviants like you. Just a disgusting, unloved degenerate with a shitty dead end job and a degree no one wants.
starstreak doesn't trigger laser warning receivers (which are not missile approach warning systems)
Starstreak doesn;t rely on high energy reflection off the target like an ATGM, it uses low energy and the missile looks backwards. the grid is also projected around the target for exactly this reason.
Not that it makes a blind bit of difference when you're moving at near hypersonic speeds with three individually guided darts and no countermeasures can stop you.
It shits on stinger (sorry didn't want to trigger one of your fettishes)
Your challenger 2 false flag thread got deleted and you immediately came here, we followed to remind you that you're not welcome on this board. seriously, have a nice day fart fag. You lost, the Brits won (as usual).
It's expensive and not many countries need a SHORAD system to protect armoured battle groups from attack aircraft and gunships who won't be making their own.
Indonesia has leopards and scorpions, South Africa has always had an armoured force. Malaysia uses PT-91 and ACV-300, Thailand has the largest mixed tank force of the lot of them. And singapore is a city state who probably bought it for it's high speed and low collateral damage - the same reason it was deployed to the 2012 Olympics.
Once again, i know far more than you.
You mean the countries that I explicitly mentioned that have the capability to develop their own domestic systems?
It's over warriortard, we have you now
this is what you get for being permanently online.
Footage just dropped of the challenger being destroyed. Turns out it was a kornet and no mines were involved at all. You can even see the tank move and shoot before being obliterated
have a nice day farttard, you lost.
No, what stopped air war is proliferation of glide bombs, so russians dont even need to enter ukrainian airspace to drop FAB 500 on their assess.
Is there a source for this or is it just another collective schizo moment?
You realize MANPADS are smol. It's a vital part of the whole "MANP" thing.
They only have enough missile juice to reach things that are relatively low, slow, and nearby.
If you had a million MANPADs ready to fire directly upwards on every square mile of your country, then your mother would never lack for bedroom toys but you could barely menace passenger jets.
The actual full-sized anti-air systems, inherited from the soviets by both sides or donated to Ukraine, are what shuts down the airspace.
Most of the MANPAD kills in this war have been against targets hugging the ground to evade those systems.
Which illustrates why they're an important defensive layer, but you don't win an air war with just MANPADs.
Any other good Stinger kino?
NGL this is pretty kino.
Pretty funny to see the dude miss a strafing run twice but goddamn I have a thousand hours in War Thunder and I absolutely believe it could happen lmao