Not a lot. I’m not seeing any deluge or foam systems, or any installed DC gear of any sort for that matter.
Look at all of those overhead lights. There’s a metric shitton of them up there. Very well lighted hangar deck, wouldn’t you say? The first time there’s any kind of shock, those fluorescent lamps are either going to shatter or just pop out and fall. The only back up lighting I see looks to be red standing lights, spaced way too far apart to be useful.
Imagine trying to do anything useful on a suddenly blacked out hangar deck, with a thick layer of powdered glass underfoot. I’m sure they’ll figure it out.
>those fluorescent lamps
China doesn't use light bulbs really.
It's almost all LEDs.
You basically can't buy bulb fittings for decorating new apartments in China. I doubt the flagship military project is going to lag behind the civilian home decoration sector.
The BEST CASE SCENARIO is that those are LED replacements for fluorescent lights, and that simply begs the question why the fuck their brand new modern carrier was designed with ancient fluorescent light fixtures? There's no winning
Why does every picture or video out of china have this weird tint to it? Like does the world just look fucking weird over there or something? Is it another planet? Are they truly celestials?
>they don't orient the hoist towards the nose of the aircraft when painting flags on the fuselage
https://i.imgur.com/WnimjCQ.jpg
The invasion of Taiwan means that right after the beach landings there will be urban warfare galore in megacities
there is no way they attempt this anymore. Ukraine btfo the black seas fleet with shore launched missiles alone. there hasn't been a major opposed amphibious landing in well over half a century, but san Carlos barely missed the cut.
the Chinese are not Russians and will not shrug their shoulders at casualties like the Russians, especially troopship casualties. the likelihood of the Chinese taking significant casualties and not even establishing a beachhead is way too high. russia is eeking out a shitty cope goalpost moved phyrric victory and it only cost them every single one of their geopolitical worst nightmares. invading Taiwan will be 10x as hard as Ukraine. Ukraine showed the Chinese that they can lose, but more importantly it showed the Taiwanese that they can win.
Natural filter from the blue-ish lights.
Here's a more neutral color.
Ok you know what, I'm tired of trying to deny it to myself but I have to admit the J-15 is a damn good looking plane. It's got that wide and low stance to it that makes it look more imposing
pretty typical of chinks tbh, wasnt that the same thing that journalist that went onboard a new chink ship said?
they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness, especially if it's going to be subject to outside scrutiny like this image. face culture is incredibly strong in china, which has it's upsides and downsides.
This, so much this.
Having known chinese I can confirm.
This is why they are very nationalistic, it's just that they cannot publicly admit fault for something.
This is why, in the long run, the west is better.
We can admit to a problem and fix it.
Picrel is good example, it has lots of flaws but improvements are made, whereas in CCP they would just say it is good and jail and brand anyone whos says anything else as a traitor.
Its the major issue in China, India, and large chunks of the Arab world.
There is a reason why Christian nations said "pride" was a sin. It observably leads to failure. "Eat a slice of humble pie and move on" or "Harden the fuck up." rather than "we will all ignore the failure mode and problem." of saving face. Its pathetic.
>There is a reason why Christian nations said "pride" was a sin
Christians are the most prideful people in existence, since they love to preach how morally superior they are because they are christian. Also, they like to brag about that they wont be cast in the lake of fire by the all loving jeebus chryst because they are christian.
Those are called loud hypocrites, anon. You probably are unaware of this, but a great deal of followers of christ take all His teachings seriously. Phil. 2:3
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
and last thing because I forgot: a true believer knows that they were/are a sinner, and that they are no more deserving of Gods love than any one else. But Gods grace is greater
>Can we not circlejerk too hard?
Bro, this is /k/ we're talking about. Possibly the most self-absorbed, whiny and hypocritical board on PrepHole. For all the shit that /k/ gives to ziggers, at the end of the day they're exactly the same when it comes to China; nothing but constant bitching and coping and huffing their own farts. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Assuming you're not a seething /misc/nig you're absolutely fucking delusional anon.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I respect nations solely based on military prowess, hence my hatred for turd worlders, bugmen included
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I really like /k/. Their America numba one circlejerk is exactly how the Qing dynasty behaved before the Opium War.
It's a good indicator how how weak and outdated US military really are. >My burke and F15 with mechanical radar are better than chink shit with GaN AESA radar because reasons.
Same shits as in pre-opium war China.
Absolutely hilarious
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If a war occurs between China and USA, your AESA radars will not save you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
US and their 30yrs outdated grears would get wrecked lol. Please attack. I can't wait for reverse pacific war
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why can't your fancy radar track a 767.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Emballassing
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's Japanese, not Chinese.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thanks to Pelosi, the Median Line (the imaginary line that the US established so Taiwan could have proper early warning in case of an invasion) doesn't exist anymore. Now PLAN ships and PLAAF aircraft are freely operating around Taiwan without raising any alarms.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can't be this dumb. Taiwan has been shadowing the chicoms throughout this silly exercise
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Implessive.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>US general: we will bomb the mainland if they cross the median line. >China cross the line. >US does nothing
USA is the real paper tiger.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What general said that?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What general said that?
The general of propaganda CCP of course
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/2ACyvOi.png
Why can't your fancy radar track a 767.
Emballassing
Implessive.
China conducted their largest military exercise around Taiwan since the 1996 Strait Crisis and the US carrier fleet didn't have be balls to get near the 1st Island Chain. This already proves that the deterring factor of the PLARF's DF-21D and DF-26 already worked since they're not even going to risk It: https://youtu.be/rEc5hsWNsCQ?t=600
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Are you saying that carriers staying away from a military exercise means that if they did not do that, a trade partner would open fire on them?
Are you fucking insane?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Last time the chinks did a similar exercise near Taiwan the US literally sailed two CSG along the Taiwan Strait back in 1996 to show whose boss that made the chinks back down: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis#1996_tensions_and_Taiwan_election
Now the US carriers don't dare to even cross the first island chain due to the threat of DF-21D's and DF-26's from the PLARF
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
WHAT THREAT!?!?!?
WHAT ARE CHINESE GOING TO DO!?!?
FIRE ON THEIR SECOND LARGEST TRADE PARTNER FOR EXERCISING FREEDOM OF NAVIGATION?!?!?!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then why didn't the US sail their CSGs closer to the first island chain or even along the Taiwan Strait to show their support to Taiwan like they did in 1996?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Can’t risk irreplaceable assets like that.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It certainly wasn't because they felt threatened.
Yet they did sail along the Taiwan Strait in 1996, when China only could bring tanks/artillery pieces onto cargo ships as their "Navy" for "invading" Taiwan.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It was more to witness the spectacle than anything.
Also, you are literally going in circles with your "arguments".
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It certainly wasn't because they felt threatened.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because this kind of saber rattling by China isn't out of the norm anymore, like it was in '96
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It was more to witness the spectacle than anything.
Also, you are literally going in circles with your "arguments".
The US literally deployed their CSGs to support Taiwan since the first Taiwan Strait Crisis up to the third one from 1996:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?
We already sent Pelosi. Anything else will be overkill. Just imagine having to be within 100 nautical miles of her.
God forbid the Chinese ever try to invade for real and we end up having to bust out the decomposing bones of hillary clinton.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Let's cut to the chase here. You're trying to say that because this one time the US didn't send a cbg to your little regatta it means the US is suddenly afraid of Chinese strong naval superiority, and we're here to tell you you're a fucking moron and it's not the US's imperative to humiliate china at every opportunity, there's other stuff going on right now. As silly as it is, they've got two cbg's tied up with fucking Israel of all things
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because Xi was already throwing a hissy fit over Pelosi and there was no reason to stop the PLAN from shelling empty patches of ocean while sobbing?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
See:
[...]
The US literally deployed their CSGs to support Taiwan since the first Taiwan Strait Crisis up to the third one from 1996:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?
Why not just make the humiliation even worse by just sailing one or two CSGs to support Taiwan, what's the worse that would happen? More complaining from China?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Show proof that the US has sailed their CSG along the Taiwan Strait since the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis from 1996.
[...]
The US literally deployed their CSGs to support Taiwan since the first Taiwan Strait Crisis up to the third one from 1996:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?
stfu about the fucking naval exercises already
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Why not just make the humiliation even worse
Because our culture doesn't revolve around maintaining face and inflicting petty humiliation on others?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>back in '96
You mean almost 30 years ago? You're grasping at straws guy
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What's changed that the USN could sail their CSG's along the Taiwan Strait freely during a crisis with China 30 years ago and now?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
but the usa still sails their carriers along the Taiwan strait every year
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Show proof that the US has sailed their CSG along the Taiwan Strait since the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis from 1996.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Show proof that the US has sailed their CSG along the Taiwan Strait since the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis from 1996.
afaik, the last time we sailed a carrier through the Taiwanese Straits was in 2007. We do routinely send destroyers and AEGIS cruisers through.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So we send boats through there and Chang is just coping?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's like a monthly thing at this point
Those are LEDs, grandpa.
Motherfucker you can SEE the ballasts.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lmao look at this dude >us carrier fleet regularly, repeatedly shits on Chinas supposed border
How dare you! There will be consequences! Ping pao wumao! >china conducts a naval exercise, US doesn't send a cbg because why would they
Haha Chinese century confirmed [=>
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Very scary stuff. We are all implessed.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>PLARF
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
for some reason every time i hear PLARF i just have to imagine a bird vomiting.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I've never heard of this "median line".
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Those are all just coast guard vessels btw.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Jap coast guard has more power projection in the straight than china
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
China fears the rising sun.
They also fear escalators however, so it may just be that the chinaman is simply a prey animal.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You know how China consistently overestimated its abilities compared to foreign powers, leading to them losing every single time? >Haha, this time we'll [overestimation of China's abilities]
No wonder why China has a cyclical calendar; nothing ever changes there.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Get so buttmad over being teased about the Opium war that you get range banned for spamming Chinese wiki entries about how you wuz Huns n shiiiiet >Get new VPN and cope by going "no you're the Opium war".
Meanwhile in reality you're a century behind the US in terms of tech. You're not even Chinese, you're a fucking leaf.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Muh GaN
How to tell someone has fully succumbed to Chinese propaganda brainrot
Hey retard, gallium is not rare. Gallium is not complicated to produce. It is a natural product of refining aluminum, it just produces fucking disgusting waste in the process. The west buys it from you because you will happily destroy your environment and people for a quick buck. If push comes to shove the west will just refine it themselves, and as a bonus stop exporting bauxite to china. China is more likely to suffer a gallium shortage long term than the west, because china relies on Australian exports for all their bauxite.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
shhhh their child is born with two heads but china strong, only china has rare earth
stop spilling the secret - rare earth is not rare at all, it's whether you are willing to destroy your environment
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Are you saying it isn't rare at all but perhaps requires far more chemicals to refine the ore do to the rarity of the material within the ore? And that this leads to massive and unrecyclable pollutants that are extremely hazardous? And that reclaiming or storing these materials safely is a difficult and expensive process? And then that the Chinese don't even bother with this, they simply dump that shit into these massive toxic lakes? Then pictures later leak of children playing around these sludge pools?
>Christian nations >generally livable if they're majority white too >Non Christian nations >almost certainly an authoritarian shithole with few exceptions like Japan (which is basically a colony for Christian nations anyways)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The majority of sub-Saharan Africa and the entirety of Latin America are Christian. What’s your cope for this?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if they're majority white too
Don't even know why I bothered responding
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ah yes the pre-cope because you knew the premise was fundamentally flawed.
As a wider generalization, that is why authoritarian govts are dysfunctional shitholes.
The sooner humanity collectively elevates itself above of them, the better.
A bit like Snowden when he showed massive flaws in national security and overreach in government surveillance and the US government said wow yeah good job buddy we'll do something about that
Oh wait, branded as a traitor and still wanted to this day lmao
I could pull up a list of all the glaring issues within china like their collapsing real estate industry or increasingly fragile economy or inevitable demographic problems blah blah blah, but who fucking cares? China isn't important enough to bother researching to own some wumao.
Yeah, just like you recognized >the housing crisis >COVID >buildings being made out of plaster and falling apart before they're even done >an entire generation of chinks being kicked out of post secondary education to go work in factories >India of all places slowly stealing most manufacturing contracts >companies pulling out over fear of IP theft >being a one party state that executes anyone not falling in line >statistically having the smallest cock size of any group of people on earth >being the number 1 producer for work related liveleak content due to non-existent workplace safety standards >making the majority of your food with repurposed sewer oil >banking on giving metric tons of loans to literal naggers in hopes that they'll keep to their end of the bargain and give you free shit when they can't instead of just chimping out like they always do
And fixed those.
>The West >We can admit to a problem and fix it.
Any person from the West that would say this has to be ignorant, dishonest or just plain lacking any self awareness whatsoever
>they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness
Chinese government facilities are generally spotless.
We're talking huge marble floors that could be ballrooms except they're just the lobby.
There's reason for them being so grand that are to do with provincial GDPs and local governor report cards they have to show to the feds but it's a thing regardless.
Chinese students have to clean their classrooms and school toilets and stuff, they'll probably have actual cleaners but students do most of the day-to-day cleaning. This continues into the office and military and most aspects of Chinese life.
That's not really true though. I lived/worked in China for 2 years at 3 different universities (2 in Xian and 1 in Shaoxing) and the public buildings/schools could be...rough....especially the bathrooms.
>they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness
Chinese government facilities are generally spotless.
We're talking huge marble floors that could be ballrooms except they're just the lobby.
There's reason for them being so grand that are to do with provincial GDPs and local governor report cards they have to show to the feds but it's a thing regardless.
Chinese students have to clean their classrooms and school toilets and stuff, they'll probably have actual cleaners but students do most of the day-to-day cleaning. This continues into the office and military and most aspects of Chinese life.
That's mostly East Asia in general tbh.
When i went to South Korea it was the same cleaningness culture, most places were spotless.
I think it's less hygiene than face though sometimes there are more hygiene practices than are common in the west.
Lots of peasants in China wear their masks wrong but city dwellers who have an obvious could will nearly always wear a mask for it.
Though in Chinese cities, coughing can just be from the air pollution but people often wear masks for that too.
Having lived in China I can tell you that the Chinese are beyond filthy. You're conflating clean societies like Korea, Japan and Singapore with clean Chinese prestige projects.
And to think that 1 year ago they jailed that boomer who sprayed that homeless crackhead nagger bitch with his garden hose when he was trying to clean the side walk out in front of his art gallery.
>chinkmutt posting something that will get him relentlessly mocked for his lack of knowledge once again
why do they do this, is it masochism? i think it's masochism.
You crack me up, this is the same argument that vatniks used to use when comparing their “immaculate” ships to american “rust buckets”. Then we saw what happened with the Moskva >pic i took in person
Ukraine proved Russian missile doctrine or "parity with the US by sinking the Moskva. I'm shocked no one talks about this. As it's pretty fucking funny and point blank obvious. Russia said it. They have parity! Ukraine showed us this was true.
>they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness, especially if it's going to be subject to outside scrutiny like this image. face culture is incredibly strong in china
Can confirm, I remember a video where someone said that the Chinese space station is revolutionary because it doesn’t have cables running around openly and is more clean and orderly, I don’t doubt that isn’t a good thing but can’t really call it revolutionary
I think both Russian ISS and Tiangong main module are based of the Mir.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I know, but Russian modules (Zarya and Zvezda) launched in late '90s, yet inside (of Zvezda at least, Zarya is actually owned by NASA) were like straight out of the '80s. In comparison, here is the American module launched in 2001.
https://www.mod.go.jp/js/pdf/2023/p20231106_01.pdf
if you can read jap. > 570 sorties in 9 days, with 420 fighter jet sorties and 150 helicopter sorties. This is an average of 46-47 fighter jet sorties per day, almost double the number compared to previous training in April
show me anyone beside the US has that kind of sortie rate. DEMONSTRATED. Not theoretical.
now get fucked
how many aircraft involved in the exercise though? During the falklands war the smol, tiny, cute HMS Invincible managed to generate an average sortie rate of 28 sorties per day from 20 aircraft in real combat conditions for 40 days straight. Peak sortie rate per day was 80 sorties from the same number of aircraft.
have a nice day you retarded chink your carrier sitting during an exercise off the chinese coast in perfect weather can't even match the sortie rate of a baby carrier from the 70s fighting a peer conflict with a 12,000 mile logistical tail and the insane weather at 50 degrees latitude at the start of winter.
also HMS QE can launch 72-110 sorties/day from 24-36 aircraft in surge operations.
CDG can sustain 80% of American supercarrier sortie rate, retard.
>can >peak >in theory
Ah the. Show it or gtfo lmao.
I thought you said you wouldn't post on /k/ again chang
But did you take your meds?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>show it
after you show us the footage of
https://i.imgur.com/rLzgN6q.png
[...]
https://www.mod.go.jp/js/pdf/2023/p20231106_01.pdf
if you can read jap. > 570 sorties in 9 days, with 420 fighter jet sorties and 150 helicopter sorties. This is an average of 46-47 fighter jet sorties per day, almost double the number compared to previous training in April
show me anyone beside the US has that kind of sortie rate. DEMONSTRATED. Not theoretical.
now get fucked
well you stole gun powders and papers from us so every technology that uses papers or explosives in any shape or form is rightfully ours.
check mate, thief.
Those were both independently developed in Africa/Europe. Black powder di start making it over to Europe around the same time, though, so it's hard to say, though the early recipes were distinctly different from what china used (china never changed it much)
>stole
paper developed independently in Europe with the earliest variant being made from scraps of lining cloth.
The method used by European paper makers was different from those in china.
If their is any theft in paper, chinese companies have stolen IP from several European paper makers and printing machine makers.
I'm in the publishing industry and my spam folder is full of chink printers proudly shilling to print with them on pedrigoni werio gemstone 125g using the latest Beibelberg offset printing machines.
could you fucking chinks just stop shilling for your IP theft just one fucking second. Like I'm going to trust you with my print files while you are using blatant IP theft knockoffs that can't even reach half the quality of the original.
Fuck even the sample books they send are books from american printers that have their covers stripped and get new ones placed on with their mark, forgetting that I can see the fucking end pages.
original sin and all. Aren't the west a bunch of christfags?
"There is nothing wrong with stealing from the original thieves. That's justice"
Joseph:69
>They even copied the Navy's deck crew uniforms.
You say copy, they say "utilised proven best-practice".
The Chinese might be having to bootstrap this but they do have second-mover advantage, they can just follow the US in most of this area because they it worked out at least once before. They waste much less time and money pursuing dead-ends that way.
no, i know chinks are not the most emotionally intelligent people, but he was actually mocking you, as am i.
you're projecting your own insecurities onto others again chang.
Projects that won't trap the countries in a cycle of debt
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So handouts. Thank you MrBeast.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>trap the countries in a cycle of debt
What is the IMF?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, other than that you're stupid and ignorant, because China is a member of the IMF, an international body with 190 member states. It's not a US institution and it doesn't seize assets that are funded with its loans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund
this plane is too big for carrier operations, its insane the space taken up, and the wings are too high for fast loading of weapons, and cannot be folded more for more aircraft
Thr Type 003 Fujian, the CATOBAR carrier is almost ready for sea trials. The CATOBAR version of the Flanker will have a longer range and larger payload than the Hornets, just like the F-14 was.
>does Xi's upcoming purging of the entire Naval PLA leadership means China is finally ready for war?
This is the latest aerial photo of the Type 003. All those climate covers of the three catapults have been removed. What's left is painting the flight deck.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So the Indians manufactured those images?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
no, it actually cracked, thats why shit has barely got done since then
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No the pictures are real, but they aren't cracks. That was literally fake news spread by Indian news sites. >https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2023/06/13/no-thats-not-a-crack-in-a-chinese-aircraft-carrier-00101678 >https://chinapower.csis.org/analysis/debunking-reports-of-cracks-in-chinas-third-aircraft-carrier/
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>politico article based on a ChinaPower statement >ChinaPower statement
really, mate?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>politico
That's all you had to say
They are a propaganda outlet masquerading as a "news" site.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's the pajeets purposely misinterpreting crewmen cleaning the flightdeck with cracks. They tried saying the same about the Liaoning STOBAR carrier, but were BTFO by OSINTfags.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i guess you could still say there was a chink in the deck :^)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>size
Yeah this one may hold 1-2 Su lol
Sooo shmall 🙂
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The number went from 24 Flankers (Type 001 and Type 002 65k ton STOBAR carriers) to 38 Flankers (Type 003 85k-90k CATOBAR carrier).
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If 001 and 002 and fly and sortie/fight with 24 flankers, my nan could fit the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler in her crotch.
there is not even enough space for a flanker to flank another in the hangar bay
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
But they did. See
https://i.imgur.com/rLzgN6q.png
[...]
https://www.mod.go.jp/js/pdf/2023/p20231106_01.pdf
if you can read jap. > 570 sorties in 9 days, with 420 fighter jet sorties and 150 helicopter sorties. This is an average of 46-47 fighter jet sorties per day, almost double the number compared to previous training in April
show me anyone beside the US has that kind of sortie rate. DEMONSTRATED. Not theoretical.
now get fucked
This is what years of propaganda does to a motherfucker who keeps going after his grandma pussy.
Incest and blind faith are the biggest American cultural export it seems lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
see what you stupid moron
the japs just counted a plane doing touch and go as 2 sorties or even 3 or 4
or so you believe the Japs now? The Senkaku belongs to Japan?
Xi visiting USA is a huge loss of face to him. He is coming to submit.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Kek. Top cope. The American count the number of times your mom sucking my dick as sortie rate to add to their tally too.
Also >begging for almost a year for a meeting. > finally saw that he will come to a yearly scheduled summit >”please meet me. You’ll be there anyway…”
Inhale that copium kek
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Xi still traveled to meet Biden, it is a step down
Maybe they would lift 1% of the tariffs then your mother can afford condoms
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Biden sent an invitation 2 months ago and Xi only said he would come 11 days ago after all of that begging.
I know you are an incel that lusts after your grandma but learn some social etiquette lmao.
No matter how hard I fucked your mom. Remember that I’m not your dad. Not my job to teach you these things
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
why do thirdies always put their wild sexual fantasies on full display?
CAPTCHA: TASOY
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
in international relations letting an invitation hang for so long and or answering so late is a faut pas.
I’ll tell you how this usually goes, an invitation is made, there is a meeting between the foreign minister, the head of the diplomatic service, advisors to the leader and the leader to decide decide on a yea or a nay in a few days.
Then staff from both foreign offices/diplomatic services meet and have preliminary talks, talks about what will be talked about, who will be talking to who, where, how long, opening positions ect.
Before the visiting leader arrives there will already be staff there to start up the talks. This is the meat and potato’s because when you are talking about say trade between two powers there are a thousand and one moving parts, interests ect ect. So, you can’t do this head of state to head of state. This work then gets pushed back home and the heads of service/minister ect have their say. The leader arrives, they have a photo shoot, have their little one on one go to dinner. In the meantime, their direct staff meet to talk about the things the people that came earlier had already talked and make a final text.
The heads of state make a formal declaration and leave. Some staff stays behind for a bit more and makes sure that the what they said matches what the other heard and then it’s over.
The way that Xi does it isn’t a chad sigma power move. It’s the oh shit I haven’t any competent staff I can trust to go and do all of the actual legwork for me response.
So just like the EU meeting it will be a nothing burger because the chinese can’t even talk with their peers because of xi’s purges in the foreign ministry and consolidation of everything into his person.
Xi, the head has all the power and control he wants. But China no longer has the body to turn what he decides on into motion.
all puff, no bite
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sending an invitation to a place you know they are gonna be there anyway is the most bitch move ever lmao.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's basic courtesy, it confirms the guest is welcome and expected.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
nice post anon, thanks.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What are you talking about? Attending an APEC summit, which is hosted in the USA this year isn't the same as a visit to exclusively visit Biden. In this summit even Russia was invited to attend, or do you think the relationship between China and the US is so bad that they can't even be in the same international summits now? Should China also stop going to the UN because It's hosted in New York because of the poor relations with the USA?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
see what you stupid moron
the japs just counted a plane doing touch and go as 2 sorties or even 3 or 4
or so you believe the Japs now? The Senkaku belongs to Japan?
Xi visiting USA is a huge loss of face to him. He is coming to submit.
>>If 001 and 002 and fly and sortie/fight with 24 flankers, my nan could fit the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler in her crotch.
You were saying?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why does the water look like concrete
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Same reason the air is lethal. Because China
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because that's probably what Chinese concrete mostly is
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
How are you going to cope when you see steam off gassing from the catapult?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
they are chinks I'm sure they have found a way to hide the steam puff.
Probably breaks down and burns/boils some of the crew now and again.
But hey the pig dog's can't see it and it's good for domestic news too.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It was confirmed by the PLAN themselves, and the fact that the Shipyard ordered more 4x EMALS for the next carrier, which hints that the next one will be the 100k-110k ton class
Good dogfighter but way too heavy in the end. There's a video of Jeremy Clarkson on the Nimitz and you can see in the video the tomcat is the heaviest thing they landed.
>Gorgeous looks >Made for long-distance engagements but can also dogfight >B I G >Only works when it's gone through regular, intensive, maintenance so most people know it through public displays that make it look rad as fuck >Good reputation but fans probably place way too much emphasis on it
Su-57?
if the SU-57 actually came out and was mass produced and fielded by the soviets in the 90's after they DIDN'T collapse that probably would have been it's reputation tbh.
in a way it's sad that the design was left rotting until it was already outdated.
As the USA slips into irrelevancy the Chinese Dragon is rising.
China doesn't need to do anything to win, no invasion of Taiwan, no wars, nothing. Just patiently wait and watch as the USA eats itself alive.
The kettle is boiling, the dog is being cooked, the chop sticks are in the lo mein. Soon, everyone will build everything, for everyone else (and by everything we mean cheap shitty knock offs of western products).
>buying resold Chinese goods
They're us and Chinese companies operating out of Mexico, so no not really. If anything, we're paying less for most stuff now, because of cheap Mexican labor
compare height-above-tail to the ceiling in each image
that chink soviet crappy is hella big
or the maintenance deck is short af (like Chang's ding dong).
Like an anon said earlier in the thread. Recently a western reporter was allowed on to a type 055 and they noticed a couple things. >very clean >no bulkheads >no DC lockers >ammo storage in poor areas
Chinese ships are firecrackers waiting for the tomahawk fuse.
Any other country who has an Antimateriel Grenade Sniper Rifle in service? Isn't being able to develop unique systems that nobody has built before the definition of "innovation"?
>in service
No >isn't being able to develop unique systems innovation
It is. But a grenade rifle isn't unique. No one uses them because it's a silly idea. They've been tried a lot before, though. Pic rel is one such example
>we are the only country that chose to replace a LMG with a what ever the fuck this is >clearly this shows that we have made a great innovation!
or it could be that all the countries that have you know fought in the last about half a century think that a LMG is of more use than that thing
>in service?
yeah, turns out if you actually need to snipe people with 25mm grenades at 2000+ yards you just....call air support. we learned that about 20 years ago, so i guess we will see you again in about 20 years when china drops the program.
It has an integrated laser range finder if the giant laser warning sticker on the side and laser emitter on the front is anything to go by. The field of view and objective lens is tragically small though, makes me wonder if it's actually electronic zoom meant to be compatible with night vision or something.
It has a smartcope with laser range finder that enables It to shoot those grenades into tight spaces to destroy bunkers/pillboxes from within. Extremely useful for urban warfare where the enemy would be hidding in buildings.
No programmable sensor fused munitions, though, so it's a bit of a moot point. And the kill radius is pretty shit. I bet it would work well for suppression if you had enough of them, but the rate of fire of just a single one isn't going to be enough
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's kill radious is standard for 35-40mm Grenades
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Which is nothing when you are talking about shooting trough windows, since, you know, there won't be a conveniently placed wall to detonate the dumb nade so the target is in the kill radius.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>standard for 35-40mm grenades
It's not. For one, there's a significant difference between a 35mm grenade and a 40mm grenade, and that goes doubly so for these high velocity 35mm grenades. They're made lighter to reach those velocities which further reduces their kill radius. If you have any evidence for a comparable kill radius I'd love to see it, but physics dictates they're shit
I think that drones are much more useful. A Blowfish UCAV can literally drop several mortar at ranges of Howitzers (20km) at a fraction of the cost and size.
Just like the DJI and FPV drones that everyone thought were nothing more than toys.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They are still toys.
https://i.imgur.com/9Ak8kTs.jpg
Can you get more precise? Here I’ll give you a militia drip picture.
Oh fuck, don't actually remember what happened, it is like Game of Thrones down there, it was in central Africa, either the government, the French supported separatists or Wagner killed them, UK was also involved somehow.
Try reverse-searching the image, maybe?
>see effectiveness of Syrian/Ukrainian drone attacks against small targets >squinty chink eyes light up in amazement >make the same thing but upscaled to carry 80mm mortar shells >purpose-made low-maneuverability drone bigger than a harley fatboy removes all the advantages that were once given to a COTS quadcopter smaller than the case for the PC I'm typing this on >smooth chink brain never makes the connection between size and ability to remain unacquired, "BIGGAH JUS BETTAH"
Implessive
Already started.
I am completely for USA and EU under French but I also must recognise that China is growing rapidly, both economically and politically.
Tell me, honestly, 20 years ago someone told you that China will force European states to recognise countries as they see fit or make Iran behave for a moment? What would your reaction be?
My reaction would be, as it was before: WTF does that have to do with innovation and the onset of a cold war? The competition in innovation is an integral charactistic of the Cold War, in addition to other things (not weapons related, which is why I do not even mention them here), so stop evading and answer.
Still no answer outside of >smartcope
which, while a funny typo, isn't innovative. Is the concept of innovation really so alien? Is all the People's Republic Implessive Brigade pushing down to >smartcope
now?
Since you think LEDs are expensive you must not be near a port city. Flyover bumpkin...
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the average cost to replace a fluorescent tube with an LED tube is between $20 to $30 per tube
And now you know why Chang installed fluorescent tubes instead of LEDs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Worse, stolen LED's are that expensive, lmao
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They're not fucking expensive when the Chinese government says "give it to us for free".
Holy shit are you people retarded. Fuck.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thats not how it works for them, they are capitalist though and through. Now they can demand whatever they want ofc, low prices, cut the line, that sort of thing.
But they rightly know they will kill their industry if they do this.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
$20 USD is a lot of money to the average chinaman.
>Those are LEDs >this is china we're talking about
Tbf they do make led lights meant to be a direct replacement for fluorescent lighting so you don't have to change out the fixtures. You still have to remove the ballast inside the fixture, but they pop right into the same slots >t. Had to do this to hundreds of lights on a carrier while we were in the yards
What do you mean? I had to change out hundreds of fluorescent lamps with their led replacements, first cutting out the ballast. The old fluorescent lights didn't last very long anyway, seemed like you never stopped changing them out. The led ones were much more reliable
>but we're talking about a new carrier
Good point, there would be no reason to use the direct replacement led tubes on a new carrier. We only used them on ours because we already had the fluorescent fixtures installed
Their commercial DJI drones have been proven to be indispensable in the modern battlefield. And only they can build them in large enough quantities at an affordable price: https://youtu.be/wnJzv01jgb8?si=3vVPDmUu35Y9v9lV
At the end of the day, wars are won by logistics and industrial output. Look at how WW2 was won.
The soviets were able to outproduce Germany but got their shit pushed in until the Germans ran out of oil. The reality was a lot more nuanced than that, sure, but looking purely at industrial output will give you only part of the picture. The current conflict in Ukraine is also massively overrepresnting the impact of cheap mass produced drones because neither player is capable of sustaining large scale offensive operations, air campaigns or front wide ew. There's no reason to believe a modern, conventional force would just dig trenches and wait for 3 months while the enemy can take the time it needs to noticably attrit it's forces in the way we see there now. Indispensable for reconnaissance, sure, but in no way a replacement for conventional operational methods for waging war
>At the end of the day, wars are won by logistics and industrial output. Look at how WW2 was won.
Classic example of fighting the last war. The age of grinding attritional war has come and gone - you go to war with what you have, and if the enemy is on your doorstep (and not horribly inept like the Russians) there's a good chance you're not going to get to build much of anything. Drone factories are debatable but shipping is the classic example of this - in most wargames China fails to float any relevant amount of tonnage after the first shots are fired because it's effectively impossible to defend the yards against cruise missile vomit.
Given another decade or two this calculus will probably change again with the advent of laser point defence, but as it stands geographical distance is one of the only reliable ways to protect your factories in the modern era.
One of the unforseen benefits of the ICBM is it makes any rocket big and strong enough to strike at strategic targets say, across the pacific, too risky to use for fear of sparking a preemptive nuclear response, even if the missile is conventional in nature. It always shifts the ball to who can make better planes and better plane-launched munitions, rather than who throws the biggest missiles.
>pretty obviously on his way to grope those engine exausts.
Cant say I blame him, but she's probably a honeypot so Im gonna pass.
I wonder how much stolen American IP is in these 3 pics.
Probably not that much considering the planes are Russian.
not much, the military tends not to patent the important stuff for obvious reasons
Not a lot. I’m not seeing any deluge or foam systems, or any installed DC gear of any sort for that matter.
Look at all of those overhead lights. There’s a metric shitton of them up there. Very well lighted hangar deck, wouldn’t you say? The first time there’s any kind of shock, those fluorescent lamps are either going to shatter or just pop out and fall. The only back up lighting I see looks to be red standing lights, spaced way too far apart to be useful.
Imagine trying to do anything useful on a suddenly blacked out hangar deck, with a thick layer of powdered glass underfoot. I’m sure they’ll figure it out.
>those fluorescent lamps
China doesn't use light bulbs really.
It's almost all LEDs.
You basically can't buy bulb fittings for decorating new apartments in China. I doubt the flagship military project is going to lag behind the civilian home decoration sector.
The BEST CASE SCENARIO is that those are LED replacements for fluorescent lights, and that simply begs the question why the fuck their brand new modern carrier was designed with ancient fluorescent light fixtures? There's no winning
Do you not know what the liaoning is or something
Why does every picture or video out of china have this weird tint to it? Like does the world just look fucking weird over there or something? Is it another planet? Are they truly celestials?
Natural filter from the blue-ish lights.
Here's a more neutral color.
Neat, I've always liked the way Flankers look.
>they don't orient the hoist towards the nose of the aircraft when painting flags on the fuselage
there is no way they attempt this anymore. Ukraine btfo the black seas fleet with shore launched missiles alone. there hasn't been a major opposed amphibious landing in well over half a century, but san Carlos barely missed the cut.
the Chinese are not Russians and will not shrug their shoulders at casualties like the Russians, especially troopship casualties. the likelihood of the Chinese taking significant casualties and not even establishing a beachhead is way too high. russia is eeking out a shitty cope goalpost moved phyrric victory and it only cost them every single one of their geopolitical worst nightmares. invading Taiwan will be 10x as hard as Ukraine. Ukraine showed the Chinese that they can lose, but more importantly it showed the Taiwanese that they can win.
It's the smog
Ok you know what, I'm tired of trying to deny it to myself but I have to admit the J-15 is a damn good looking plane. It's got that wide and low stance to it that makes it look more imposing
>Chinks have developed high-tech cleaning device called broom
>More at 11PM
pretty typical of chinks tbh, wasnt that the same thing that journalist that went onboard a new chink ship said?
they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness, especially if it's going to be subject to outside scrutiny like this image. face culture is incredibly strong in china, which has it's upsides and downsides.
This, so much this.
Having known chinese I can confirm.
This is why they are very nationalistic, it's just that they cannot publicly admit fault for something.
This is why, in the long run, the west is better.
We can admit to a problem and fix it.
Picrel is good example, it has lots of flaws but improvements are made, whereas in CCP they would just say it is good and jail and brand anyone whos says anything else as a traitor.
Its the major issue in China, India, and large chunks of the Arab world.
There is a reason why Christian nations said "pride" was a sin. It observably leads to failure. "Eat a slice of humble pie and move on" or "Harden the fuck up." rather than "we will all ignore the failure mode and problem." of saving face. Its pathetic.
>There is a reason why Christian nations said "pride" was a sin
Christians are the most prideful people in existence, since they love to preach how morally superior they are because they are christian. Also, they like to brag about that they wont be cast in the lake of fire by the all loving jeebus chryst because they are christian.
you're brown
More likely yellow.
Those are called loud hypocrites, anon. You probably are unaware of this, but a great deal of followers of christ take all His teachings seriously. Phil. 2:3
and last thing because I forgot: a true believer knows that they were/are a sinner, and that they are no more deserving of Gods love than any one else. But Gods grace is greater
That's every religion. It's a product of people, not of the religion
Can we not circlejerk too hard?
There are flaws with the ChiComs, but we don't have to suck our own dicks over it. That leads to complacency and ultimately our own downfall.
>Can we not circlejerk too hard?
Bro, this is /k/ we're talking about. Possibly the most self-absorbed, whiny and hypocritical board on PrepHole. For all the shit that /k/ gives to ziggers, at the end of the day they're exactly the same when it comes to China; nothing but constant bitching and coping and huffing their own farts. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
Assuming you're not a seething /misc/nig you're absolutely fucking delusional anon.
I respect nations solely based on military prowess, hence my hatred for turd worlders, bugmen included
I really like /k/. Their America numba one circlejerk is exactly how the Qing dynasty behaved before the Opium War.
It's a good indicator how how weak and outdated US military really are.
>My burke and F15 with mechanical radar are better than chink shit with GaN AESA radar because reasons.
Same shits as in pre-opium war China.
Absolutely hilarious
If a war occurs between China and USA, your AESA radars will not save you.
US and their 30yrs outdated grears would get wrecked lol. Please attack. I can't wait for reverse pacific war
Why can't your fancy radar track a 767.
Emballassing
That's Japanese, not Chinese.
Thanks to Pelosi, the Median Line (the imaginary line that the US established so Taiwan could have proper early warning in case of an invasion) doesn't exist anymore. Now PLAN ships and PLAAF aircraft are freely operating around Taiwan without raising any alarms.
You can't be this dumb. Taiwan has been shadowing the chicoms throughout this silly exercise
Implessive.
>US general: we will bomb the mainland if they cross the median line.
>China cross the line.
>US does nothing
USA is the real paper tiger.
What general said that?
>What general said that?
The general of propaganda CCP of course
China conducted their largest military exercise around Taiwan since the 1996 Strait Crisis and the US carrier fleet didn't have be balls to get near the 1st Island Chain. This already proves that the deterring factor of the PLARF's DF-21D and DF-26 already worked since they're not even going to risk It: https://youtu.be/rEc5hsWNsCQ?t=600
Are you saying that carriers staying away from a military exercise means that if they did not do that, a trade partner would open fire on them?
Are you fucking insane?
Last time the chinks did a similar exercise near Taiwan the US literally sailed two CSG along the Taiwan Strait back in 1996 to show whose boss that made the chinks back down: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis#1996_tensions_and_Taiwan_election
Now the US carriers don't dare to even cross the first island chain due to the threat of DF-21D's and DF-26's from the PLARF
WHAT THREAT!?!?!?
WHAT ARE CHINESE GOING TO DO!?!?
FIRE ON THEIR SECOND LARGEST TRADE PARTNER FOR EXERCISING FREEDOM OF NAVIGATION?!?!?!
Then why didn't the US sail their CSGs closer to the first island chain or even along the Taiwan Strait to show their support to Taiwan like they did in 1996?
Can’t risk irreplaceable assets like that.
Yet they did sail along the Taiwan Strait in 1996, when China only could bring tanks/artillery pieces onto cargo ships as their "Navy" for "invading" Taiwan.
It was more to witness the spectacle than anything.
Also, you are literally going in circles with your "arguments".
It certainly wasn't because they felt threatened.
Because this kind of saber rattling by China isn't out of the norm anymore, like it was in '96
The US literally deployed their CSGs to support Taiwan since the first Taiwan Strait Crisis up to the third one from 1996:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?
>Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?
We already sent Pelosi. Anything else will be overkill. Just imagine having to be within 100 nautical miles of her.
God forbid the Chinese ever try to invade for real and we end up having to bust out the decomposing bones of hillary clinton.
Let's cut to the chase here. You're trying to say that because this one time the US didn't send a cbg to your little regatta it means the US is suddenly afraid of Chinese strong naval superiority, and we're here to tell you you're a fucking moron and it's not the US's imperative to humiliate china at every opportunity, there's other stuff going on right now. As silly as it is, they've got two cbg's tied up with fucking Israel of all things
Because Xi was already throwing a hissy fit over Pelosi and there was no reason to stop the PLAN from shelling empty patches of ocean while sobbing?
See:
Why not just make the humiliation even worse by just sailing one or two CSGs to support Taiwan, what's the worse that would happen? More complaining from China?
stfu about the fucking naval exercises already
>Why not just make the humiliation even worse
Because our culture doesn't revolve around maintaining face and inflicting petty humiliation on others?
>back in '96
You mean almost 30 years ago? You're grasping at straws guy
What's changed that the USN could sail their CSG's along the Taiwan Strait freely during a crisis with China 30 years ago and now?
but the usa still sails their carriers along the Taiwan strait every year
Show proof that the US has sailed their CSG along the Taiwan Strait since the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis from 1996.
>Show proof that the US has sailed their CSG along the Taiwan Strait since the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis from 1996.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-kittyhawk/china-upset-at-kitty-hawks-taiwan-strait-transit-idUSPEK3008920071204
afaik, the last time we sailed a carrier through the Taiwanese Straits was in 2007. We do routinely send destroyers and AEGIS cruisers through.
So we send boats through there and Chang is just coping?
It's like a monthly thing at this point
Motherfucker you can SEE the ballasts.
Lmao look at this dude
>us carrier fleet regularly, repeatedly shits on Chinas supposed border
How dare you! There will be consequences! Ping pao wumao!
>china conducts a naval exercise, US doesn't send a cbg because why would they
Haha Chinese century confirmed [=>
Very scary stuff. We are all implessed.
>PLARF
for some reason every time i hear PLARF i just have to imagine a bird vomiting.
I've never heard of this "median line".
Those are all just coast guard vessels btw.
>Jap coast guard has more power projection in the straight than china
China fears the rising sun.
They also fear escalators however, so it may just be that the chinaman is simply a prey animal.
>You know how China consistently overestimated its abilities compared to foreign powers, leading to them losing every single time?
>Haha, this time we'll [overestimation of China's abilities]
No wonder why China has a cyclical calendar; nothing ever changes there.
>Get so buttmad over being teased about the Opium war that you get range banned for spamming Chinese wiki entries about how you wuz Huns n shiiiiet
>Get new VPN and cope by going "no you're the Opium war".
Meanwhile in reality you're a century behind the US in terms of tech. You're not even Chinese, you're a fucking leaf.
>Muh GaN
How to tell someone has fully succumbed to Chinese propaganda brainrot
Hey retard, gallium is not rare. Gallium is not complicated to produce. It is a natural product of refining aluminum, it just produces fucking disgusting waste in the process. The west buys it from you because you will happily destroy your environment and people for a quick buck. If push comes to shove the west will just refine it themselves, and as a bonus stop exporting bauxite to china. China is more likely to suffer a gallium shortage long term than the west, because china relies on Australian exports for all their bauxite.
shhhh their child is born with two heads but china strong, only china has rare earth
stop spilling the secret - rare earth is not rare at all, it's whether you are willing to destroy your environment
Are you saying it isn't rare at all but perhaps requires far more chemicals to refine the ore do to the rarity of the material within the ore? And that this leads to massive and unrecyclable pollutants that are extremely hazardous? And that reclaiming or storing these materials safely is a difficult and expensive process? And then that the Chinese don't even bother with this, they simply dump that shit into these massive toxic lakes? Then pictures later leak of children playing around these sludge pools?
I ask as I'm not certain what you mean.
> Its the major issue in China, India, and large chunks of the Arab world.
Stop pretending like you know about the cultures of other countries bro, or even about “Christian nations”
NTA
National culture isn't something mystical.
>Christian nations
>generally livable if they're majority white too
>Non Christian nations
>almost certainly an authoritarian shithole with few exceptions like Japan (which is basically a colony for Christian nations anyways)
The majority of sub-Saharan Africa and the entirety of Latin America are Christian. What’s your cope for this?
>if they're majority white too
Don't even know why I bothered responding
Ah yes the pre-cope because you knew the premise was fundamentally flawed.
As a wider generalization, that is why authoritarian govts are dysfunctional shitholes.
The sooner humanity collectively elevates itself above of them, the better.
don’t bring your retarded reddit culture here
>another 5th columnist commie apologist kvetching about reddit
i fucking hate /misc/ so much
A bit like Snowden when he showed massive flaws in national security and overreach in government surveillance and the US government said wow yeah good job buddy we'll do something about that
Oh wait, branded as a traitor and still wanted to this day lmao
>flaws
Yeah, they don't think 24/7 spying on everyone in the world is a flaw. Exposing flaws is not why he's wanted.
Like you recognized the Mexican border problem and fixed it?
Like you recognized your mass shooting problem and fixed it?
Like you recognized your health insurance problem and fixed it?
Like you recognized your opiate problem and fixed it?
Like you recognize your obese reality TV star grifter president problem and aren't going to recreate it?
Like you recognized your falling life expectancy and fixed it?
Like you recognized how your inflation adjusted median wages have been stagnant for over half a century now and fixed it?
Like you recognized owing $230,000 in debt per tax payer was a problem and fixed it?
oh the chang is mad now. kek. Post steel mill that doesn't have liveleak videos. Or, you know an escalator that doesn't eat people.
I could pull up a list of all the glaring issues within china like their collapsing real estate industry or increasingly fragile economy or inevitable demographic problems blah blah blah, but who fucking cares? China isn't important enough to bother researching to own some wumao.
China will (not) grow larger.
BTFO
Yeah, just like you recognized
>the housing crisis
>COVID
>buildings being made out of plaster and falling apart before they're even done
>an entire generation of chinks being kicked out of post secondary education to go work in factories
>India of all places slowly stealing most manufacturing contracts
>companies pulling out over fear of IP theft
>being a one party state that executes anyone not falling in line
>statistically having the smallest cock size of any group of people on earth
>being the number 1 producer for work related liveleak content due to non-existent workplace safety standards
>making the majority of your food with repurposed sewer oil
>banking on giving metric tons of loans to literal naggers in hopes that they'll keep to their end of the bargain and give you free shit when they can't instead of just chimping out like they always do
And fixed those.
>The West
>We can admit to a problem and fix it.
Any person from the West that would say this has to be ignorant, dishonest or just plain lacking any self awareness whatsoever
>they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness
Chinese government facilities are generally spotless.
We're talking huge marble floors that could be ballrooms except they're just the lobby.
There's reason for them being so grand that are to do with provincial GDPs and local governor report cards they have to show to the feds but it's a thing regardless.
Chinese students have to clean their classrooms and school toilets and stuff, they'll probably have actual cleaners but students do most of the day-to-day cleaning. This continues into the office and military and most aspects of Chinese life.
That's not really true though. I lived/worked in China for 2 years at 3 different universities (2 in Xian and 1 in Shaoxing) and the public buildings/schools could be...rough....especially the bathrooms.
Poor people areas are intentionally underfunded and out of the spotlight.
That's mostly East Asia in general tbh.
When i went to South Korea it was the same cleaningness culture, most places were spotless.
Japan we don't even need to mention.
it's not surprising given they often live much more densely so any disease is going to have an easier time causing problems.
I think it's less hygiene than face though sometimes there are more hygiene practices than are common in the west.
Lots of peasants in China wear their masks wrong but city dwellers who have an obvious could will nearly always wear a mask for it.
Though in Chinese cities, coughing can just be from the air pollution but people often wear masks for that too.
>Japan we don't even need to mention.
Funny enough, the only place I saw cockroaches overseas was in Hachinohe Japan.
No.
Having lived in China I can tell you that the Chinese are beyond filthy. You're conflating clean societies like Korea, Japan and Singapore with clean Chinese prestige projects.
>they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness
We just pretend lol
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And to think that 1 year ago they jailed that boomer who sprayed that homeless crackhead nagger bitch with his garden hose when he was trying to clean the side walk out in front of his art gallery.
Why even host it in San Francisco, everyone already knows it's a shithole filled with homeless people.
Bros, I thought it was the chinks that cared about muh face...
That article also said the ship didn't have basic watertight compartmentalization and was basically for show.
Looks impressive but it would be interesting to see what horrors are in the galley
Oh no! Anyway....
NB4 Those ships are only rusting because someone got them wet!
>chinkmutt posting something that will get him relentlessly mocked for his lack of knowledge once again
why do they do this, is it masochism? i think it's masochism.
Brand new
You crack me up, this is the same argument that vatniks used to use when comparing their “immaculate” ships to american “rust buckets”. Then we saw what happened with the Moskva
>pic i took in person
Ukraine proved Russian missile doctrine or "parity with the US by sinking the Moskva. I'm shocked no one talks about this. As it's pretty fucking funny and point blank obvious. Russia said it. They have parity! Ukraine showed us this was true.
that thing is brand spanking new and hasnt seen a war or global deployment probably hasn't had to weather an open water storm
>they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness, especially if it's going to be subject to outside scrutiny like this image. face culture is incredibly strong in china
Can confirm, I remember a video where someone said that the Chinese space station is revolutionary because it doesn’t have cables running around openly and is more clean and orderly, I don’t doubt that isn’t a good thing but can’t really call it revolutionary
I'm pretty sure space stations are one of the places where you want items exposed for repair. It's a space station not a luxury yacht
I think they're just panels tbh.
You can see plenty of screw holes, so my guess if something breaks, you just open it.
But still, i can't deny it looks neat as fuck.
Meanwhile, Russian segment of ISS looked like old pictures from MIR even on their initial mission.
I think both Russian ISS and Tiangong main module are based of the Mir.
I know, but Russian modules (Zarya and Zvezda) launched in late '90s, yet inside (of Zvezda at least, Zarya is actually owned by NASA) were like straight out of the '80s. In comparison, here is the American module launched in 2001.
Yea it's prettty similar to Tiangong.
>it's upsides and downsides
what upsides?
Flankers are still a terrible choice for carrier operations. Absolute fat fucks.
>somehow still manages to have higher sorties rate than CDG and bongs carriers
sure
No it doesn't.
https://www.mod.go.jp/js/pdf/2023/p20231106_01.pdf
if you can read jap.
> 570 sorties in 9 days, with 420 fighter jet sorties and 150 helicopter sorties. This is an average of 46-47 fighter jet sorties per day, almost double the number compared to previous training in April
show me anyone beside the US has that kind of sortie rate. DEMONSTRATED. Not theoretical.
now get fucked
>また、当該期間に、中国海軍クズネツォフ級空母「山東」の艦載戦闘機によるもの約420回及び艦載ヘリによるもの約150回、計約570回の発着艦を確認した。
Huh.
So they did an exercise and you're trying to extrapolate sortie rate from this.
lmao
I thought you said you wouldn't post on /k/ again chang
how many aircraft involved in the exercise though? During the falklands war the smol, tiny, cute HMS Invincible managed to generate an average sortie rate of 28 sorties per day from 20 aircraft in real combat conditions for 40 days straight. Peak sortie rate per day was 80 sorties from the same number of aircraft.
have a nice day you retarded chink your carrier sitting during an exercise off the chinese coast in perfect weather can't even match the sortie rate of a baby carrier from the 70s fighting a peer conflict with a 12,000 mile logistical tail and the insane weather at 50 degrees latitude at the start of winter.
also HMS QE can launch 72-110 sorties/day from 24-36 aircraft in surge operations.
>can
>peak
>in theory
Ah the. Show it or gtfo lmao.
But did you take your meds?
>show it
after you show us the footage of
>fighting a peer conflict
Lets not jest. Argies didn't hold a candle to the BTF. Even calling it near peer would be extremely generous.
Hello where is the proofs? :DDD
CDG can sustain 80% of American supercarrier sortie rate, retard.
They even copied the Navy's deck crew uniforms.
well you stole gun powders and papers from us so every technology that uses papers or explosives in any shape or form is rightfully ours.
check mate, thief.
Those were both independently developed in Africa/Europe. Black powder di start making it over to Europe around the same time, though, so it's hard to say, though the early recipes were distinctly different from what china used (china never changed it much)
Ok chang
>stole
paper developed independently in Europe with the earliest variant being made from scraps of lining cloth.
The method used by European paper makers was different from those in china.
If their is any theft in paper, chinese companies have stolen IP from several European paper makers and printing machine makers.
I'm in the publishing industry and my spam folder is full of chink printers proudly shilling to print with them on pedrigoni werio gemstone 125g using the latest Beibelberg offset printing machines.
could you fucking chinks just stop shilling for your IP theft just one fucking second. Like I'm going to trust you with my print files while you are using blatant IP theft knockoffs that can't even reach half the quality of the original.
Fuck even the sample books they send are books from american printers that have their covers stripped and get new ones placed on with their mark, forgetting that I can see the fucking end pages.
Stealing a thieves original work doesn't make you any less of one
original sin and all. Aren't the west a bunch of christfags?
"There is nothing wrong with stealing from the original thieves. That's justice"
Joseph:69
>joseph:69
Thats not scripture, you just made that up
Says the homosexual who had glass for centuries but never thought of using it or windows until the west did it
>They even copied the Navy's deck crew uniforms.
You say copy, they say "utilised proven best-practice".
The Chinese might be having to bootstrap this but they do have second-mover advantage, they can just follow the US in most of this area because they it worked out at least once before. They waste much less time and money pursuing dead-ends that way.
>utilised proven best-practice
Just because Chang copies the US doesn't mean he understands the "why" behind it.
>it's another insectoid thread
>slava zhongu-ACKKKK!
Makes you mad, doesn't it? Makes you seethe and mald? Makes you shit your britches in terror? Makes the coward's brown bile in your veins boil?
no, i know chinks are not the most emotionally intelligent people, but he was actually mocking you, as am i.
you're projecting your own insecurities onto others again chang.
Two more weeks until the Chinese Century?
What’s this?
Colonial pains.
Can you get more precise? Here I’ll give you a militia drip picture.
>Communists dressed like fags
>Drip
Get Rittenhoused
>implying fags don't care about fashion to the point where it's become a meme
More drip
US Government backed terrorism is Africa.
>only Americans would want to kill benevolent Chinese overlords
What is the US Government building in Africa?
Projects that won't trap the countries in a cycle of debt
So handouts. Thank you MrBeast.
>trap the countries in a cycle of debt
What is the IMF?
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, other than that you're stupid and ignorant, because China is a member of the IMF, an international body with 190 member states. It's not a US institution and it doesn't seize assets that are funded with its loans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund
the power of BRICS
Chink administrative team running a business in some african shithole got wasted by locals for their usual chinkery.
commie flags are the worst, yuck
Too clean maybe
That's a very sexy plane.
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see the Russian hangar bay.
Chinks are high on autism, it's natural for their ships look like that.
this plane is too big for carrier operations, its insane the space taken up, and the wings are too high for fast loading of weapons, and cannot be folded more for more aircraft
Yes, nobody considers Chinese Naval forces as a real threat.
Flankers are roughly the same size as the F-14. Were the F-14s bad carrier wing aircraft?
er, yes?
and they had giant full sized carriers with catapults and f-14s still took up too much space
the old flankers had a radar cross section of 30m2
Thr Type 003 Fujian, the CATOBAR carrier is almost ready for sea trials. The CATOBAR version of the Flanker will have a longer range and larger payload than the Hornets, just like the F-14 was.
That the carrier that cracked during construction?
>He believes pajeet news
This is the latest aerial photo of the Type 003. All those climate covers of the three catapults have been removed. What's left is painting the flight deck.
So the Indians manufactured those images?
no, it actually cracked, thats why shit has barely got done since then
No the pictures are real, but they aren't cracks. That was literally fake news spread by Indian news sites.
>https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2023/06/13/no-thats-not-a-crack-in-a-chinese-aircraft-carrier-00101678
>https://chinapower.csis.org/analysis/debunking-reports-of-cracks-in-chinas-third-aircraft-carrier/
>politico article based on a ChinaPower statement
>ChinaPower statement
really, mate?
>politico
That's all you had to say
They are a propaganda outlet masquerading as a "news" site.
It's the pajeets purposely misinterpreting crewmen cleaning the flightdeck with cracks. They tried saying the same about the Liaoning STOBAR carrier, but were BTFO by OSINTfags.
i guess you could still say there was a chink in the deck :^)
>size
Yeah this one may hold 1-2 Su lol
Sooo shmall 🙂
The number went from 24 Flankers (Type 001 and Type 002 65k ton STOBAR carriers) to 38 Flankers (Type 003 85k-90k CATOBAR carrier).
If 001 and 002 and fly and sortie/fight with 24 flankers, my nan could fit the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler in her crotch.
there is not even enough space for a flanker to flank another in the hangar bay
But they did. See
This is what years of propaganda does to a motherfucker who keeps going after his grandma pussy.
Incest and blind faith are the biggest American cultural export it seems lmao.
see what you stupid moron
the japs just counted a plane doing touch and go as 2 sorties or even 3 or 4
or so you believe the Japs now? The Senkaku belongs to Japan?
Xi visiting USA is a huge loss of face to him. He is coming to submit.
Kek. Top cope. The American count the number of times your mom sucking my dick as sortie rate to add to their tally too.
Also
>begging for almost a year for a meeting.
> finally saw that he will come to a yearly scheduled summit
>”please meet me. You’ll be there anyway…”
Inhale that copium kek
Xi still traveled to meet Biden, it is a step down
Maybe they would lift 1% of the tariffs then your mother can afford condoms
Biden sent an invitation 2 months ago and Xi only said he would come 11 days ago after all of that begging.
I know you are an incel that lusts after your grandma but learn some social etiquette lmao.
No matter how hard I fucked your mom. Remember that I’m not your dad. Not my job to teach you these things
why do thirdies always put their wild sexual fantasies on full display?
CAPTCHA: TASOY
in international relations letting an invitation hang for so long and or answering so late is a faut pas.
I’ll tell you how this usually goes, an invitation is made, there is a meeting between the foreign minister, the head of the diplomatic service, advisors to the leader and the leader to decide decide on a yea or a nay in a few days.
Then staff from both foreign offices/diplomatic services meet and have preliminary talks, talks about what will be talked about, who will be talking to who, where, how long, opening positions ect.
Before the visiting leader arrives there will already be staff there to start up the talks. This is the meat and potato’s because when you are talking about say trade between two powers there are a thousand and one moving parts, interests ect ect. So, you can’t do this head of state to head of state. This work then gets pushed back home and the heads of service/minister ect have their say. The leader arrives, they have a photo shoot, have their little one on one go to dinner. In the meantime, their direct staff meet to talk about the things the people that came earlier had already talked and make a final text.
The heads of state make a formal declaration and leave. Some staff stays behind for a bit more and makes sure that the what they said matches what the other heard and then it’s over.
The way that Xi does it isn’t a chad sigma power move. It’s the oh shit I haven’t any competent staff I can trust to go and do all of the actual legwork for me response.
So just like the EU meeting it will be a nothing burger because the chinese can’t even talk with their peers because of xi’s purges in the foreign ministry and consolidation of everything into his person.
Xi, the head has all the power and control he wants. But China no longer has the body to turn what he decides on into motion.
all puff, no bite
Sending an invitation to a place you know they are gonna be there anyway is the most bitch move ever lmao.
It's basic courtesy, it confirms the guest is welcome and expected.
nice post anon, thanks.
What are you talking about? Attending an APEC summit, which is hosted in the USA this year isn't the same as a visit to exclusively visit Biden. In this summit even Russia was invited to attend, or do you think the relationship between China and the US is so bad that they can't even be in the same international summits now? Should China also stop going to the UN because It's hosted in New York because of the poor relations with the USA?
>>If 001 and 002 and fly and sortie/fight with 24 flankers, my nan could fit the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler in her crotch.
You were saying?
Why does the water look like concrete
Same reason the air is lethal. Because China
Because that's probably what Chinese concrete mostly is
How are you going to cope when you see steam off gassing from the catapult?
they are chinks I'm sure they have found a way to hide the steam puff.
Probably breaks down and burns/boils some of the crew now and again.
But hey the pig dog's can't see it and it's good for domestic news too.
It was confirmed by the PLAN themselves, and the fact that the Shipyard ordered more 4x EMALS for the next carrier, which hints that the next one will be the 100k-110k ton class
I think that actually turned out to be fake
>may I see it?
>does Xi's upcoming purging of the entire Naval PLA leadership means China is finally ready for war?
>e F-14 was.
The payload of the F-14 was the same as the current F-16...
Tomcats were exceptionally expensive and difficult to maintain, but they also ended the age of dogfighting, so it is a mixed bag honestly.
Unironically yes, the F-14 is a bit of a meme.
Good dogfighter but way too heavy in the end. There's a video of Jeremy Clarkson on the Nimitz and you can see in the video the tomcat is the heaviest thing they landed.
They were more interceptors than dogfighters due to their focus for engaging soviet bombers carrying supersonic anti-ship missiles.
What kind of wonder craft would be spawned in an F-14 and an Su27 Flanker fucked and had a baby? It would have been a beautiful aircraft.
>Gorgeous looks
>Made for long-distance engagements but can also dogfight
>B I G
>Only works when it's gone through regular, intensive, maintenance so most people know it through public displays that make it look rad as fuck
>Good reputation but fans probably place way too much emphasis on it
Su-57?
if the SU-57 actually came out and was mass produced and fielded by the soviets in the 90's after they DIDN'T collapse that probably would have been it's reputation tbh.
in a way it's sad that the design was left rotting until it was already outdated.
Any photos of the Kuznetsov's flight deck for comparison?
As the USA slips into irrelevancy the Chinese Dragon is rising.
China doesn't need to do anything to win, no invasion of Taiwan, no wars, nothing. Just patiently wait and watch as the USA eats itself alive.
>chinese dragon
>paper dragon
one swift kick and the whole termite infested beijing would collapse
The kettle is boiling, the dog is being cooked, the chop sticks are in the lo mein. Soon, everyone will build everything, for everyone else (and by everything we mean cheap shitty knock offs of western products).
Clean from lack of use, if only it ran then they still couldn't afford the petrol for it.
Watch and weep, One of the most brutal moggins in history
>ends in 2018
hehehehe, i wonder why?
Because it only get worse for the USA after than. You are now buying resold Chinese good and paying more for it.
The are Chinese plane with wearing Russian skin
>buying resold Chinese goods
They're us and Chinese companies operating out of Mexico, so no not really. If anything, we're paying less for most stuff now, because of cheap Mexican labor
>Because it only get worse for the USA after than.
Hows your decade coming along chnag?
>starts at a complete disparity
>ends at roughly parity
>mogging
Nah
>united Germany
>1985
It's not really that exceptional.
compare height-above-tail to the ceiling in each image
that chink soviet crappy is hella big
or the maintenance deck is short af (like Chang's ding dong).
It's probably both. I was just remarking on the cleanliness, though, naval ships are kept spotless
Like an anon said earlier in the thread. Recently a western reporter was allowed on to a type 055 and they noticed a couple things.
>very clean
>no bulkheads
>no DC lockers
>ammo storage in poor areas
Chinese ships are firecrackers waiting for the tomahawk fuse.
>no bulkheads
wat
>no bulkheads
One hit's gonna send that thing to the bottom of the ocean.
I am just glad that mutts and changs are going into Second Cold War so humanity can finally move on.
When is China going to start innovating? It won't be much of a cold war until that happens.
How is that innovative
Any other country who has an Antimateriel Grenade Sniper Rifle in service? Isn't being able to develop unique systems that nobody has built before the definition of "innovation"?
>in service
No
>isn't being able to develop unique systems innovation
It is. But a grenade rifle isn't unique. No one uses them because it's a silly idea. They've been tried a lot before, though. Pic rel is one such example
>we are the only country that chose to replace a LMG with a what ever the fuck this is
>clearly this shows that we have made a great innovation!
or it could be that all the countries that have you know fought in the last about half a century think that a LMG is of more use than that thing
No one has an equivalent of whatever the fuck this piece of shit is supposed to be either.
>in service?
yeah, turns out if you actually need to snipe people with 25mm grenades at 2000+ yards you just....call air support. we learned that about 20 years ago, so i guess we will see you again in about 20 years when china drops the program.
>Isn't being able to develop unique systems that nobody has built before the definition of "innovation"?
Copying something the Finns did in 1939 isn’t innovation.
All of that scope for a simple zoom and for a nade rifle?
It has an integrated laser range finder if the giant laser warning sticker on the side and laser emitter on the front is anything to go by. The field of view and objective lens is tragically small though, makes me wonder if it's actually electronic zoom meant to be compatible with night vision or something.
It has a smartcope with laser range finder that enables It to shoot those grenades into tight spaces to destroy bunkers/pillboxes from within. Extremely useful for urban warfare where the enemy would be hidding in buildings.
But, who is China going to fight in a purely urban environment?
The invasion of Taiwan means that right after the beach landings there will be urban warfare galore in megacities
But there will be no invasion of Taiwan?
It is a US protectorate, they literally can't do anything about it.
No programmable sensor fused munitions, though, so it's a bit of a moot point. And the kill radius is pretty shit. I bet it would work well for suppression if you had enough of them, but the rate of fire of just a single one isn't going to be enough
It's kill radious is standard for 35-40mm Grenades
Which is nothing when you are talking about shooting trough windows, since, you know, there won't be a conveniently placed wall to detonate the dumb nade so the target is in the kill radius.
>standard for 35-40mm grenades
It's not. For one, there's a significant difference between a 35mm grenade and a 40mm grenade, and that goes doubly so for these high velocity 35mm grenades. They're made lighter to reach those velocities which further reduces their kill radius. If you have any evidence for a comparable kill radius I'd love to see it, but physics dictates they're shit
The XM-29 was literally an HK project that had all of this and more.
I pray the meteor hits that side of the planet this time.
>smartcope
I think that drones are much more useful. A Blowfish UCAV can literally drop several mortar at ranges of Howitzers (20km) at a fraction of the cost and size.
What a waste of resources lmao
Just like the DJI and FPV drones that everyone thought were nothing more than toys.
They are still toys.
Oh fuck, don't actually remember what happened, it is like Game of Thrones down there, it was in central Africa, either the government, the French supported separatists or Wagner killed them, UK was also involved somehow.
Try reverse-searching the image, maybe?
holly shit that air pollution
>see effectiveness of Syrian/Ukrainian drone attacks against small targets
>squinty chink eyes light up in amazement
>make the same thing but upscaled to carry 80mm mortar shells
>purpose-made low-maneuverability drone bigger than a harley fatboy removes all the advantages that were once given to a COTS quadcopter smaller than the case for the PC I'm typing this on
>smooth chink brain never makes the connection between size and ability to remain unacquired, "BIGGAH JUS BETTAH"
Implessive
Already started.
I am completely for USA and EU under French but I also must recognise that China is growing rapidly, both economically and politically.
Tell me, honestly, 20 years ago someone told you that China will force European states to recognise countries as they see fit or make Iran behave for a moment? What would your reaction be?
My reaction would be, as it was before: WTF does that have to do with innovation and the onset of a cold war? The competition in innovation is an integral charactistic of the Cold War, in addition to other things (not weapons related, which is why I do not even mention them here), so stop evading and answer.
Still no answer outside of
>smartcope
which, while a funny typo, isn't innovative. Is the concept of innovation really so alien? Is all the People's Republic Implessive Brigade pushing down to
>smartcope
now?
Why doesn't it have a stowable ladder underneath the LEX like the F18?
Where exactly would the dirt come from?
Mercury vapor (fluorescent) tube lights?
And their not caged?
WTF Chang???!!
Those are LEDs, grandpa.
>Those are LEDs
>this is china we're talking about
Where do you think all LEDs come from?
>Thinks that Chang would spend more money for LED's than mercury vapor lights
Since you think LEDs are expensive you must not be near a port city. Flyover bumpkin...
>the average cost to replace a fluorescent tube with an LED tube is between $20 to $30 per tube
And now you know why Chang installed fluorescent tubes instead of LEDs
Worse, stolen LED's are that expensive, lmao
They're not fucking expensive when the Chinese government says "give it to us for free".
Holy shit are you people retarded. Fuck.
Thats not how it works for them, they are capitalist though and through. Now they can demand whatever they want ofc, low prices, cut the line, that sort of thing.
But they rightly know they will kill their industry if they do this.
$20 USD is a lot of money to the average chinaman.
>Where do you think all mercury vapor lights come from?
>LED's
>in a tube
>with a clear ballast housing
Lmao, now thats some cope.
Tbf they do make led lights meant to be a direct replacement for fluorescent lighting so you don't have to change out the fixtures. You still have to remove the ballast inside the fixture, but they pop right into the same slots
>t. Had to do this to hundreds of lights on a carrier while we were in the yards
>Had to do this to hundreds of lights on a carrie
You were so close chang.
What do you mean? I had to change out hundreds of fluorescent lamps with their led replacements, first cutting out the ballast. The old fluorescent lights didn't last very long anyway, seemed like you never stopped changing them out. The led ones were much more reliable
>What do you mean?
So, so close.
But we're talking about a new carrier, not a 20 year old US carrier.
Chang put fluorescent tubes in, not LED. Cheap ass chinky chinks as usual.
>but we're talking about a new carrier
Good point, there would be no reason to use the direct replacement led tubes on a new carrier. We only used them on ours because we already had the fluorescent fixtures installed
>1 (one) single pressure wave enters the deck
>lol there goes all the lights!
Picrel deleted 130 Million Chinese by himself. Much respect. China is headed for oblivion no matter what happens.
>China is headed for oblivion
Can you give me an estimate of how long that might take?
Wernt you supposed to be passing the US economy by now? I thought it was in 2018? oh wait was it 2020? Oh wait it was deffo 2022.
Have fun wiping 540 Million asses for 11 cents an hour.
will the chinese ever be tested in a war?
Their commercial DJI drones have been proven to be indispensable in the modern battlefield. And only they can build them in large enough quantities at an affordable price: https://youtu.be/wnJzv01jgb8?si=3vVPDmUu35Y9v9lV
At the end of the day, wars are won by logistics and industrial output. Look at how WW2 was won.
The soviets were able to outproduce Germany but got their shit pushed in until the Germans ran out of oil. The reality was a lot more nuanced than that, sure, but looking purely at industrial output will give you only part of the picture. The current conflict in Ukraine is also massively overrepresnting the impact of cheap mass produced drones because neither player is capable of sustaining large scale offensive operations, air campaigns or front wide ew. There's no reason to believe a modern, conventional force would just dig trenches and wait for 3 months while the enemy can take the time it needs to noticably attrit it's forces in the way we see there now. Indispensable for reconnaissance, sure, but in no way a replacement for conventional operational methods for waging war
>At the end of the day, wars are won by logistics and industrial output. Look at how WW2 was won.
Classic example of fighting the last war. The age of grinding attritional war has come and gone - you go to war with what you have, and if the enemy is on your doorstep (and not horribly inept like the Russians) there's a good chance you're not going to get to build much of anything. Drone factories are debatable but shipping is the classic example of this - in most wargames China fails to float any relevant amount of tonnage after the first shots are fired because it's effectively impossible to defend the yards against cruise missile vomit.
Given another decade or two this calculus will probably change again with the advent of laser point defence, but as it stands geographical distance is one of the only reliable ways to protect your factories in the modern era.
One of the unforseen benefits of the ICBM is it makes any rocket big and strong enough to strike at strategic targets say, across the pacific, too risky to use for fear of sparking a preemptive nuclear response, even if the missile is conventional in nature. It always shifts the ball to who can make better planes and better plane-launched munitions, rather than who throws the biggest missiles.
Yeah... that's one fine carrier deck... WHY DOESN'T MINE LOOK LIKE THAT?
If China is so great, why does every Chink with money immediately move abroad?
As a non plane nagger, looks exactly like every american plane ever made post 1970
Vely crean
Dapper/ Alpha asf
Is that Xi's escort?
Depends on what you mean by "escort"