Damn, that's clean AF

Damn, that's clean AF

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pretty obviously on his way to grope those engine exausts.
      Cant say I blame him, but she's probably a honeypot so Im gonna pass.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/LViKnk6.jpg

      I wonder how much stolen American IP is in these 3 pics.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Probably not that much considering the planes are Russian.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not much, the military tends not to patent the important stuff for obvious reasons

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not a lot. I’m not seeing any deluge or foam systems, or any installed DC gear of any sort for that matter.

        Look at all of those overhead lights. There’s a metric shitton of them up there. Very well lighted hangar deck, wouldn’t you say? The first time there’s any kind of shock, those fluorescent lamps are either going to shatter or just pop out and fall. The only back up lighting I see looks to be red standing lights, spaced way too far apart to be useful.

        Imagine trying to do anything useful on a suddenly blacked out hangar deck, with a thick layer of powdered glass underfoot. I’m sure they’ll figure it out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >those fluorescent lamps
          China doesn't use light bulbs really.
          It's almost all LEDs.
          You basically can't buy bulb fittings for decorating new apartments in China. I doubt the flagship military project is going to lag behind the civilian home decoration sector.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The BEST CASE SCENARIO is that those are LED replacements for fluorescent lights, and that simply begs the question why the fuck their brand new modern carrier was designed with ancient fluorescent light fixtures? There's no winning

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do you not know what the liaoning is or something

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/LViKnk6.jpg

      Why does every picture or video out of china have this weird tint to it? Like does the world just look fucking weird over there or something? Is it another planet? Are they truly celestials?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Natural filter from the blue-ish lights.
        Here's a more neutral color.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Neat, I've always liked the way Flankers look.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they don't orient the hoist towards the nose of the aircraft when painting flags on the fuselage

          https://i.imgur.com/WnimjCQ.jpg

          The invasion of Taiwan means that right after the beach landings there will be urban warfare galore in megacities

          there is no way they attempt this anymore. Ukraine btfo the black seas fleet with shore launched missiles alone. there hasn't been a major opposed amphibious landing in well over half a century, but san Carlos barely missed the cut.

          the Chinese are not Russians and will not shrug their shoulders at casualties like the Russians, especially troopship casualties. the likelihood of the Chinese taking significant casualties and not even establishing a beachhead is way too high. russia is eeking out a shitty cope goalpost moved phyrric victory and it only cost them every single one of their geopolitical worst nightmares. invading Taiwan will be 10x as hard as Ukraine. Ukraine showed the Chinese that they can lose, but more importantly it showed the Taiwanese that they can win.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's the smog

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/LViKnk6.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/ms6xJkG.png

      Natural filter from the blue-ish lights.
      Here's a more neutral color.

      Ok you know what, I'm tired of trying to deny it to myself but I have to admit the J-15 is a damn good looking plane. It's got that wide and low stance to it that makes it look more imposing

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Chinks have developed high-tech cleaning device called broom
    >More at 11PM

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pretty typical of chinks tbh, wasnt that the same thing that journalist that went onboard a new chink ship said?
      they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness, especially if it's going to be subject to outside scrutiny like this image. face culture is incredibly strong in china, which has it's upsides and downsides.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This, so much this.
        Having known chinese I can confirm.
        This is why they are very nationalistic, it's just that they cannot publicly admit fault for something.
        This is why, in the long run, the west is better.
        We can admit to a problem and fix it.

        Picrel is good example, it has lots of flaws but improvements are made, whereas in CCP they would just say it is good and jail and brand anyone whos says anything else as a traitor.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its the major issue in China, India, and large chunks of the Arab world.

          There is a reason why Christian nations said "pride" was a sin. It observably leads to failure. "Eat a slice of humble pie and move on" or "Harden the fuck up." rather than "we will all ignore the failure mode and problem." of saving face. Its pathetic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There is a reason why Christian nations said "pride" was a sin

            Christians are the most prideful people in existence, since they love to preach how morally superior they are because they are christian. Also, they like to brag about that they wont be cast in the lake of fire by the all loving jeebus chryst because they are christian.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you're brown

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                More likely yellow.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Those are called loud hypocrites, anon. You probably are unaware of this, but a great deal of followers of christ take all His teachings seriously. Phil. 2:3

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and last thing because I forgot: a true believer knows that they were/are a sinner, and that they are no more deserving of Gods love than any one else. But Gods grace is greater

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's every religion. It's a product of people, not of the religion

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can we not circlejerk too hard?

            There are flaws with the ChiComs, but we don't have to suck our own dicks over it. That leads to complacency and ultimately our own downfall.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Can we not circlejerk too hard?
              Bro, this is /k/ we're talking about. Possibly the most self-absorbed, whiny and hypocritical board on PrepHole. For all the shit that /k/ gives to ziggers, at the end of the day they're exactly the same when it comes to China; nothing but constant bitching and coping and huffing their own farts. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Assuming you're not a seething /misc/nig you're absolutely fucking delusional anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I respect nations solely based on military prowess, hence my hatred for turd worlders, bugmen included

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I really like /k/. Their America numba one circlejerk is exactly how the Qing dynasty behaved before the Opium War.
                It's a good indicator how how weak and outdated US military really are.
                >My burke and F15 with mechanical radar are better than chink shit with GaN AESA radar because reasons.
                Same shits as in pre-opium war China.
                Absolutely hilarious

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If a war occurs between China and USA, your AESA radars will not save you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                US and their 30yrs outdated grears would get wrecked lol. Please attack. I can't wait for reverse pacific war

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why can't your fancy radar track a 767.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Emballassing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's Japanese, not Chinese.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks to Pelosi, the Median Line (the imaginary line that the US established so Taiwan could have proper early warning in case of an invasion) doesn't exist anymore. Now PLAN ships and PLAAF aircraft are freely operating around Taiwan without raising any alarms.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can't be this dumb. Taiwan has been shadowing the chicoms throughout this silly exercise

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Implessive.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >US general: we will bomb the mainland if they cross the median line.
                >China cross the line.
                >US does nothing

                USA is the real paper tiger.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What general said that?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What general said that?
                The general of propaganda CCP of course

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/2ACyvOi.png

                Why can't your fancy radar track a 767.

                Emballassing

                Implessive.

                China conducted their largest military exercise around Taiwan since the 1996 Strait Crisis and the US carrier fleet didn't have be balls to get near the 1st Island Chain. This already proves that the deterring factor of the PLARF's DF-21D and DF-26 already worked since they're not even going to risk It: https://youtu.be/rEc5hsWNsCQ?t=600

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you saying that carriers staying away from a military exercise means that if they did not do that, a trade partner would open fire on them?
                Are you fucking insane?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Last time the chinks did a similar exercise near Taiwan the US literally sailed two CSG along the Taiwan Strait back in 1996 to show whose boss that made the chinks back down: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis#1996_tensions_and_Taiwan_election
                Now the US carriers don't dare to even cross the first island chain due to the threat of DF-21D's and DF-26's from the PLARF

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                WHAT THREAT!?!?!?
                WHAT ARE CHINESE GOING TO DO!?!?
                FIRE ON THEIR SECOND LARGEST TRADE PARTNER FOR EXERCISING FREEDOM OF NAVIGATION?!?!?!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then why didn't the US sail their CSGs closer to the first island chain or even along the Taiwan Strait to show their support to Taiwan like they did in 1996?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can’t risk irreplaceable assets like that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It certainly wasn't because they felt threatened.

                Yet they did sail along the Taiwan Strait in 1996, when China only could bring tanks/artillery pieces onto cargo ships as their "Navy" for "invading" Taiwan.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was more to witness the spectacle than anything.
                Also, you are literally going in circles with your "arguments".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It certainly wasn't because they felt threatened.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because this kind of saber rattling by China isn't out of the norm anymore, like it was in '96

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was more to witness the spectacle than anything.
                Also, you are literally going in circles with your "arguments".

                The US literally deployed their CSGs to support Taiwan since the first Taiwan Strait Crisis up to the third one from 1996:
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
                Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?
                We already sent Pelosi. Anything else will be overkill. Just imagine having to be within 100 nautical miles of her.
                God forbid the Chinese ever try to invade for real and we end up having to bust out the decomposing bones of hillary clinton.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Let's cut to the chase here. You're trying to say that because this one time the US didn't send a cbg to your little regatta it means the US is suddenly afraid of Chinese strong naval superiority, and we're here to tell you you're a fucking moron and it's not the US's imperative to humiliate china at every opportunity, there's other stuff going on right now. As silly as it is, they've got two cbg's tied up with fucking Israel of all things

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because Xi was already throwing a hissy fit over Pelosi and there was no reason to stop the PLAN from shelling empty patches of ocean while sobbing?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See:

                [...]
                The US literally deployed their CSGs to support Taiwan since the first Taiwan Strait Crisis up to the third one from 1996:
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
                Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?

                Why not just make the humiliation even worse by just sailing one or two CSGs to support Taiwan, what's the worse that would happen? More complaining from China?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Show proof that the US has sailed their CSG along the Taiwan Strait since the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis from 1996.

                [...]
                The US literally deployed their CSGs to support Taiwan since the first Taiwan Strait Crisis up to the third one from 1996:
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis
                Yet in this forth one with Pelosi, they haven't dared to even deploy their CSGs close to the First island chain. What changed?

                stfu about the fucking naval exercises already

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why not just make the humiliation even worse
                Because our culture doesn't revolve around maintaining face and inflicting petty humiliation on others?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >back in '96
                You mean almost 30 years ago? You're grasping at straws guy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's changed that the USN could sail their CSG's along the Taiwan Strait freely during a crisis with China 30 years ago and now?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but the usa still sails their carriers along the Taiwan strait every year

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Show proof that the US has sailed their CSG along the Taiwan Strait since the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis from 1996.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Show proof that the US has sailed their CSG along the Taiwan Strait since the Third Taiwan Strait Crisis from 1996.

                https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-kittyhawk/china-upset-at-kitty-hawks-taiwan-strait-transit-idUSPEK3008920071204

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                afaik, the last time we sailed a carrier through the Taiwanese Straits was in 2007. We do routinely send destroyers and AEGIS cruisers through.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So we send boats through there and Chang is just coping?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's like a monthly thing at this point

                Those are LEDs, grandpa.

                Motherfucker you can SEE the ballasts.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao look at this dude
                >us carrier fleet regularly, repeatedly shits on Chinas supposed border
                How dare you! There will be consequences! Ping pao wumao!
                >china conducts a naval exercise, US doesn't send a cbg because why would they
                Haha Chinese century confirmed [=>

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Very scary stuff. We are all implessed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >PLARF

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                for some reason every time i hear PLARF i just have to imagine a bird vomiting.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've never heard of this "median line".

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those are all just coast guard vessels btw.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Jap coast guard has more power projection in the straight than china

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                China fears the rising sun.
                They also fear escalators however, so it may just be that the chinaman is simply a prey animal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You know how China consistently overestimated its abilities compared to foreign powers, leading to them losing every single time?
                >Haha, this time we'll [overestimation of China's abilities]
                No wonder why China has a cyclical calendar; nothing ever changes there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Get so buttmad over being teased about the Opium war that you get range banned for spamming Chinese wiki entries about how you wuz Huns n shiiiiet
                >Get new VPN and cope by going "no you're the Opium war".
                Meanwhile in reality you're a century behind the US in terms of tech. You're not even Chinese, you're a fucking leaf.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Muh GaN
                How to tell someone has fully succumbed to Chinese propaganda brainrot
                Hey retard, gallium is not rare. Gallium is not complicated to produce. It is a natural product of refining aluminum, it just produces fucking disgusting waste in the process. The west buys it from you because you will happily destroy your environment and people for a quick buck. If push comes to shove the west will just refine it themselves, and as a bonus stop exporting bauxite to china. China is more likely to suffer a gallium shortage long term than the west, because china relies on Australian exports for all their bauxite.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                shhhh their child is born with two heads but china strong, only china has rare earth

                stop spilling the secret - rare earth is not rare at all, it's whether you are willing to destroy your environment

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you saying it isn't rare at all but perhaps requires far more chemicals to refine the ore do to the rarity of the material within the ore? And that this leads to massive and unrecyclable pollutants that are extremely hazardous? And that reclaiming or storing these materials safely is a difficult and expensive process? And then that the Chinese don't even bother with this, they simply dump that shit into these massive toxic lakes? Then pictures later leak of children playing around these sludge pools?

                I ask as I'm not certain what you mean.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Its the major issue in China, India, and large chunks of the Arab world.

            Stop pretending like you know about the cultures of other countries bro, or even about “Christian nations”

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              NTA
              National culture isn't something mystical.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Christian nations
              >generally livable if they're majority white too
              >Non Christian nations
              >almost certainly an authoritarian shithole with few exceptions like Japan (which is basically a colony for Christian nations anyways)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The majority of sub-Saharan Africa and the entirety of Latin America are Christian. What’s your cope for this?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if they're majority white too
                Don't even know why I bothered responding

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes the pre-cope because you knew the premise was fundamentally flawed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As a wider generalization, that is why authoritarian govts are dysfunctional shitholes.
          The sooner humanity collectively elevates itself above of them, the better.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          don’t bring your retarded reddit culture here

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >another 5th columnist commie apologist kvetching about reddit
            i fucking hate /misc/ so much

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A bit like Snowden when he showed massive flaws in national security and overreach in government surveillance and the US government said wow yeah good job buddy we'll do something about that

          Oh wait, branded as a traitor and still wanted to this day lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >flaws
            Yeah, they don't think 24/7 spying on everyone in the world is a flaw. Exposing flaws is not why he's wanted.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like you recognized the Mexican border problem and fixed it?

          Like you recognized your mass shooting problem and fixed it?

          Like you recognized your health insurance problem and fixed it?

          Like you recognized your opiate problem and fixed it?

          Like you recognize your obese reality TV star grifter president problem and aren't going to recreate it?

          Like you recognized your falling life expectancy and fixed it?

          Like you recognized how your inflation adjusted median wages have been stagnant for over half a century now and fixed it?

          Like you recognized owing $230,000 in debt per tax payer was a problem and fixed it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh the chang is mad now. kek. Post steel mill that doesn't have liveleak videos. Or, you know an escalator that doesn't eat people.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I could pull up a list of all the glaring issues within china like their collapsing real estate industry or increasingly fragile economy or inevitable demographic problems blah blah blah, but who fucking cares? China isn't important enough to bother researching to own some wumao.

            China will (not) grow larger.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            BTFO

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, just like you recognized
            >the housing crisis
            >COVID
            >buildings being made out of plaster and falling apart before they're even done
            >an entire generation of chinks being kicked out of post secondary education to go work in factories
            >India of all places slowly stealing most manufacturing contracts
            >companies pulling out over fear of IP theft
            >being a one party state that executes anyone not falling in line
            >statistically having the smallest cock size of any group of people on earth
            >being the number 1 producer for work related liveleak content due to non-existent workplace safety standards
            >making the majority of your food with repurposed sewer oil
            >banking on giving metric tons of loans to literal naggers in hopes that they'll keep to their end of the bargain and give you free shit when they can't instead of just chimping out like they always do
            And fixed those.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The West
          >We can admit to a problem and fix it.
          Any person from the West that would say this has to be ignorant, dishonest or just plain lacking any self awareness whatsoever

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness
        Chinese government facilities are generally spotless.
        We're talking huge marble floors that could be ballrooms except they're just the lobby.
        There's reason for them being so grand that are to do with provincial GDPs and local governor report cards they have to show to the feds but it's a thing regardless.
        Chinese students have to clean their classrooms and school toilets and stuff, they'll probably have actual cleaners but students do most of the day-to-day cleaning. This continues into the office and military and most aspects of Chinese life.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not really true though. I lived/worked in China for 2 years at 3 different universities (2 in Xian and 1 in Shaoxing) and the public buildings/schools could be...rough....especially the bathrooms.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Poor people areas are intentionally underfunded and out of the spotlight.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness
        Chinese government facilities are generally spotless.
        We're talking huge marble floors that could be ballrooms except they're just the lobby.
        There's reason for them being so grand that are to do with provincial GDPs and local governor report cards they have to show to the feds but it's a thing regardless.
        Chinese students have to clean their classrooms and school toilets and stuff, they'll probably have actual cleaners but students do most of the day-to-day cleaning. This continues into the office and military and most aspects of Chinese life.

        That's mostly East Asia in general tbh.
        When i went to South Korea it was the same cleaningness culture, most places were spotless.

        Japan we don't even need to mention.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's not surprising given they often live much more densely so any disease is going to have an easier time causing problems.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think it's less hygiene than face though sometimes there are more hygiene practices than are common in the west.
            Lots of peasants in China wear their masks wrong but city dwellers who have an obvious could will nearly always wear a mask for it.

            Though in Chinese cities, coughing can just be from the air pollution but people often wear masks for that too.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Japan we don't even need to mention.
          Funny enough, the only place I saw cockroaches overseas was in Hachinohe Japan.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No.

          Having lived in China I can tell you that the Chinese are beyond filthy. You're conflating clean societies like Korea, Japan and Singapore with clean Chinese prestige projects.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness
        We just pretend lol

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        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And to think that 1 year ago they jailed that boomer who sprayed that homeless crackhead nagger bitch with his garden hose when he was trying to clean the side walk out in front of his art gallery.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why even host it in San Francisco, everyone already knows it's a shithole filled with homeless people.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bros, I thought it was the chinks that cared about muh face...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That article also said the ship didn't have basic watertight compartmentalization and was basically for show.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks impressive but it would be interesting to see what horrors are in the galley

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no! Anyway....

        NB4 Those ships are only rusting because someone got them wet!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >chinkmutt posting something that will get him relentlessly mocked for his lack of knowledge once again
          why do they do this, is it masochism? i think it's masochism.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Brand new

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You crack me up, this is the same argument that vatniks used to use when comparing their “immaculate” ships to american “rust buckets”. Then we saw what happened with the Moskva
          >pic i took in person

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ukraine proved Russian missile doctrine or "parity with the US by sinking the Moskva. I'm shocked no one talks about this. As it's pretty fucking funny and point blank obvious. Russia said it. They have parity! Ukraine showed us this was true.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that thing is brand spanking new and hasnt seen a war or global deployment probably hasn't had to weather an open water storm

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they give a shit ton about visual cleanlyness, especially if it's going to be subject to outside scrutiny like this image. face culture is incredibly strong in china
        Can confirm, I remember a video where someone said that the Chinese space station is revolutionary because it doesn’t have cables running around openly and is more clean and orderly, I don’t doubt that isn’t a good thing but can’t really call it revolutionary

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm pretty sure space stations are one of the places where you want items exposed for repair. It's a space station not a luxury yacht

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm pretty sure space stations are one of the places where you want items exposed for repair. It's a space station not a luxury yacht

          I think they're just panels tbh.
          You can see plenty of screw holes, so my guess if something breaks, you just open it.

          But still, i can't deny it looks neat as fuck.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Meanwhile, Russian segment of ISS looked like old pictures from MIR even on their initial mission.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think both Russian ISS and Tiangong main module are based of the Mir.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know, but Russian modules (Zarya and Zvezda) launched in late '90s, yet inside (of Zvezda at least, Zarya is actually owned by NASA) were like straight out of the '80s. In comparison, here is the American module launched in 2001.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yea it's prettty similar to Tiangong.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's upsides and downsides
        what upsides?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Flankers are still a terrible choice for carrier operations. Absolute fat fucks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >somehow still manages to have higher sorties rate than CDG and bongs carriers
      sure

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No it doesn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hello where is the proofs? :DDD

          https://www.mod.go.jp/js/pdf/2023/p20231106_01.pdf
          if you can read jap.
          > 570 sorties in 9 days, with 420 fighter jet sorties and 150 helicopter sorties. This is an average of 46-47 fighter jet sorties per day, almost double the number compared to previous training in April

          show me anyone beside the US has that kind of sortie rate. DEMONSTRATED. Not theoretical.
          now get fucked

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >また、当該期間に、中国海軍クズネツォフ級空母「山東」の艦載戦闘機によるもの約420回及び艦載ヘリによるもの約150回、計約570回の発着艦を確認した。
            Huh.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So they did an exercise and you're trying to extrapolate sortie rate from this.

            lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I thought you said you wouldn't post on /k/ again chang

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how many aircraft involved in the exercise though? During the falklands war the smol, tiny, cute HMS Invincible managed to generate an average sortie rate of 28 sorties per day from 20 aircraft in real combat conditions for 40 days straight. Peak sortie rate per day was 80 sorties from the same number of aircraft.

            have a nice day you retarded chink your carrier sitting during an exercise off the chinese coast in perfect weather can't even match the sortie rate of a baby carrier from the 70s fighting a peer conflict with a 12,000 mile logistical tail and the insane weather at 50 degrees latitude at the start of winter.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              also HMS QE can launch 72-110 sorties/day from 24-36 aircraft in surge operations.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              also HMS QE can launch 72-110 sorties/day from 24-36 aircraft in surge operations.

              CDG can sustain 80% of American supercarrier sortie rate, retard.

              >can
              >peak
              >in theory
              Ah the. Show it or gtfo lmao.

              I thought you said you wouldn't post on /k/ again chang

              But did you take your meds?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >show it
                after you show us the footage of

                https://i.imgur.com/rLzgN6q.png

                [...]
                https://www.mod.go.jp/js/pdf/2023/p20231106_01.pdf
                if you can read jap.
                > 570 sorties in 9 days, with 420 fighter jet sorties and 150 helicopter sorties. This is an average of 46-47 fighter jet sorties per day, almost double the number compared to previous training in April

                show me anyone beside the US has that kind of sortie rate. DEMONSTRATED. Not theoretical.
                now get fucked

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >fighting a peer conflict
              Lets not jest. Argies didn't hold a candle to the BTF. Even calling it near peer would be extremely generous.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hello where is the proofs? :DDD

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        CDG can sustain 80% of American supercarrier sortie rate, retard.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They even copied the Navy's deck crew uniforms.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well you stole gun powders and papers from us so every technology that uses papers or explosives in any shape or form is rightfully ours.
      check mate, thief.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those were both independently developed in Africa/Europe. Black powder di start making it over to Europe around the same time, though, so it's hard to say, though the early recipes were distinctly different from what china used (china never changed it much)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok chang

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >stole
        paper developed independently in Europe with the earliest variant being made from scraps of lining cloth.
        The method used by European paper makers was different from those in china.
        If their is any theft in paper, chinese companies have stolen IP from several European paper makers and printing machine makers.
        I'm in the publishing industry and my spam folder is full of chink printers proudly shilling to print with them on pedrigoni werio gemstone 125g using the latest Beibelberg offset printing machines.
        could you fucking chinks just stop shilling for your IP theft just one fucking second. Like I'm going to trust you with my print files while you are using blatant IP theft knockoffs that can't even reach half the quality of the original.
        Fuck even the sample books they send are books from american printers that have their covers stripped and get new ones placed on with their mark, forgetting that I can see the fucking end pages.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stealing a thieves original work doesn't make you any less of one

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          original sin and all. Aren't the west a bunch of christfags?
          "There is nothing wrong with stealing from the original thieves. That's justice"
          Joseph:69

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >joseph:69
            Thats not scripture, you just made that up

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Says the homosexual who had glass for centuries but never thought of using it or windows until the west did it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They even copied the Navy's deck crew uniforms.
      You say copy, they say "utilised proven best-practice".

      The Chinese might be having to bootstrap this but they do have second-mover advantage, they can just follow the US in most of this area because they it worked out at least once before. They waste much less time and money pursuing dead-ends that way.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >utilised proven best-practice
        Just because Chang copies the US doesn't mean he understands the "why" behind it.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's another insectoid thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slava zhongu-ACKKKK!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Makes you mad, doesn't it? Makes you seethe and mald? Makes you shit your britches in terror? Makes the coward's brown bile in your veins boil?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no, i know chinks are not the most emotionally intelligent people, but he was actually mocking you, as am i.
        you're projecting your own insecurities onto others again chang.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Two more weeks until the Chinese Century?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What’s this?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Colonial pains.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can you get more precise? Here I’ll give you a militia drip picture.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/kyBaCT0.jpg

            More drip [...]

            >Communists dressed like fags
            >Drip
            Get Rittenhoused

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >implying fags don't care about fashion to the point where it's become a meme

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          More drip

          https://i.imgur.com/9Ak8kTs.jpg

          Can you get more precise? Here I’ll give you a militia drip picture.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        US Government backed terrorism is Africa.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >only Americans would want to kill benevolent Chinese overlords

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What is the US Government building in Africa?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Projects that won't trap the countries in a cycle of debt

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So handouts. Thank you MrBeast.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >trap the countries in a cycle of debt
                What is the IMF?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, other than that you're stupid and ignorant, because China is a member of the IMF, an international body with 190 member states. It's not a US institution and it doesn't seize assets that are funded with its loans.
                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the power of BRICS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chink administrative team running a business in some african shithole got wasted by locals for their usual chinkery.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    commie flags are the worst, yuck

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too clean maybe

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's a very sexy plane.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Impressive. Very nice. Let's see the Russian hangar bay.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chinks are high on autism, it's natural for their ships look like that.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this plane is too big for carrier operations, its insane the space taken up, and the wings are too high for fast loading of weapons, and cannot be folded more for more aircraft

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, nobody considers Chinese Naval forces as a real threat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Flankers are still a terrible choice for carrier operations. Absolute fat fucks.

      Flankers are roughly the same size as the F-14. Were the F-14s bad carrier wing aircraft?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        er, yes?

        and they had giant full sized carriers with catapults and f-14s still took up too much space

        the old flankers had a radar cross section of 30m2

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thr Type 003 Fujian, the CATOBAR carrier is almost ready for sea trials. The CATOBAR version of the Flanker will have a longer range and larger payload than the Hornets, just like the F-14 was.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That the carrier that cracked during construction?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >He believes pajeet news

              >may I see it?

              >does Xi's upcoming purging of the entire Naval PLA leadership means China is finally ready for war?

              This is the latest aerial photo of the Type 003. All those climate covers of the three catapults have been removed. What's left is painting the flight deck.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So the Indians manufactured those images?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no, it actually cracked, thats why shit has barely got done since then

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No the pictures are real, but they aren't cracks. That was literally fake news spread by Indian news sites.
                >https://www.politico.com/newsletters/national-security-daily/2023/06/13/no-thats-not-a-crack-in-a-chinese-aircraft-carrier-00101678
                >https://chinapower.csis.org/analysis/debunking-reports-of-cracks-in-chinas-third-aircraft-carrier/

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >politico article based on a ChinaPower statement
                >ChinaPower statement
                really, mate?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >politico
                That's all you had to say
                They are a propaganda outlet masquerading as a "news" site.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's the pajeets purposely misinterpreting crewmen cleaning the flightdeck with cracks. They tried saying the same about the Liaoning STOBAR carrier, but were BTFO by OSINTfags.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i guess you could still say there was a chink in the deck :^)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >size
                Yeah this one may hold 1-2 Su lol
                Sooo shmall 🙂

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The number went from 24 Flankers (Type 001 and Type 002 65k ton STOBAR carriers) to 38 Flankers (Type 003 85k-90k CATOBAR carrier).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If 001 and 002 and fly and sortie/fight with 24 flankers, my nan could fit the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler in her crotch.

                there is not even enough space for a flanker to flank another in the hangar bay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But they did. See

                https://i.imgur.com/rLzgN6q.png

                [...]
                https://www.mod.go.jp/js/pdf/2023/p20231106_01.pdf
                if you can read jap.
                > 570 sorties in 9 days, with 420 fighter jet sorties and 150 helicopter sorties. This is an average of 46-47 fighter jet sorties per day, almost double the number compared to previous training in April

                show me anyone beside the US has that kind of sortie rate. DEMONSTRATED. Not theoretical.
                now get fucked

                This is what years of propaganda does to a motherfucker who keeps going after his grandma pussy.
                Incest and blind faith are the biggest American cultural export it seems lmao.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see what you stupid moron

                the japs just counted a plane doing touch and go as 2 sorties or even 3 or 4

                or so you believe the Japs now? The Senkaku belongs to Japan?

                Xi visiting USA is a huge loss of face to him. He is coming to submit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Kek. Top cope. The American count the number of times your mom sucking my dick as sortie rate to add to their tally too.
                Also
                >begging for almost a year for a meeting.
                > finally saw that he will come to a yearly scheduled summit
                >”please meet me. You’ll be there anyway…”
                Inhale that copium kek

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Xi still traveled to meet Biden, it is a step down

                Maybe they would lift 1% of the tariffs then your mother can afford condoms

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Biden sent an invitation 2 months ago and Xi only said he would come 11 days ago after all of that begging.
                I know you are an incel that lusts after your grandma but learn some social etiquette lmao.
                No matter how hard I fucked your mom. Remember that I’m not your dad. Not my job to teach you these things

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why do thirdies always put their wild sexual fantasies on full display?

                CAPTCHA: TASOY

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                in international relations letting an invitation hang for so long and or answering so late is a faut pas.
                I’ll tell you how this usually goes, an invitation is made, there is a meeting between the foreign minister, the head of the diplomatic service, advisors to the leader and the leader to decide decide on a yea or a nay in a few days.
                Then staff from both foreign offices/diplomatic services meet and have preliminary talks, talks about what will be talked about, who will be talking to who, where, how long, opening positions ect.
                Before the visiting leader arrives there will already be staff there to start up the talks. This is the meat and potato’s because when you are talking about say trade between two powers there are a thousand and one moving parts, interests ect ect. So, you can’t do this head of state to head of state. This work then gets pushed back home and the heads of service/minister ect have their say. The leader arrives, they have a photo shoot, have their little one on one go to dinner. In the meantime, their direct staff meet to talk about the things the people that came earlier had already talked and make a final text.
                The heads of state make a formal declaration and leave. Some staff stays behind for a bit more and makes sure that the what they said matches what the other heard and then it’s over.

                The way that Xi does it isn’t a chad sigma power move. It’s the oh shit I haven’t any competent staff I can trust to go and do all of the actual legwork for me response.
                So just like the EU meeting it will be a nothing burger because the chinese can’t even talk with their peers because of xi’s purges in the foreign ministry and consolidation of everything into his person.
                Xi, the head has all the power and control he wants. But China no longer has the body to turn what he decides on into motion.
                all puff, no bite

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sending an invitation to a place you know they are gonna be there anyway is the most bitch move ever lmao.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's basic courtesy, it confirms the guest is welcome and expected.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nice post anon, thanks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What are you talking about? Attending an APEC summit, which is hosted in the USA this year isn't the same as a visit to exclusively visit Biden. In this summit even Russia was invited to attend, or do you think the relationship between China and the US is so bad that they can't even be in the same international summits now? Should China also stop going to the UN because It's hosted in New York because of the poor relations with the USA?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see what you stupid moron

                the japs just counted a plane doing touch and go as 2 sorties or even 3 or 4

                or so you believe the Japs now? The Senkaku belongs to Japan?

                Xi visiting USA is a huge loss of face to him. He is coming to submit.

                >>If 001 and 002 and fly and sortie/fight with 24 flankers, my nan could fit the Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler in her crotch.
                You were saying?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why does the water look like concrete

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Same reason the air is lethal. Because China

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because that's probably what Chinese concrete mostly is

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How are you going to cope when you see steam off gassing from the catapult?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they are chinks I'm sure they have found a way to hide the steam puff.
                Probably breaks down and burns/boils some of the crew now and again.
                But hey the pig dog's can't see it and it's good for domestic news too.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was confirmed by the PLAN themselves, and the fact that the Shipyard ordered more 4x EMALS for the next carrier, which hints that the next one will be the 100k-110k ton class

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think that actually turned out to be fake

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >may I see it?

            >does Xi's upcoming purging of the entire Naval PLA leadership means China is finally ready for war?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >e F-14 was.
            The payload of the F-14 was the same as the current F-16...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tomcats were exceptionally expensive and difficult to maintain, but they also ended the age of dogfighting, so it is a mixed bag honestly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically yes, the F-14 is a bit of a meme.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good dogfighter but way too heavy in the end. There's a video of Jeremy Clarkson on the Nimitz and you can see in the video the tomcat is the heaviest thing they landed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They were more interceptors than dogfighters due to their focus for engaging soviet bombers carrying supersonic anti-ship missiles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What kind of wonder craft would be spawned in an F-14 and an Su27 Flanker fucked and had a baby? It would have been a beautiful aircraft.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Gorgeous looks
          >Made for long-distance engagements but can also dogfight
          >B I G
          >Only works when it's gone through regular, intensive, maintenance so most people know it through public displays that make it look rad as fuck
          >Good reputation but fans probably place way too much emphasis on it
          Su-57?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if the SU-57 actually came out and was mass produced and fielded by the soviets in the 90's after they DIDN'T collapse that probably would have been it's reputation tbh.
            in a way it's sad that the design was left rotting until it was already outdated.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any photos of the Kuznetsov's flight deck for comparison?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As the USA slips into irrelevancy the Chinese Dragon is rising.
    China doesn't need to do anything to win, no invasion of Taiwan, no wars, nothing. Just patiently wait and watch as the USA eats itself alive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >chinese dragon
      >paper dragon
      one swift kick and the whole termite infested beijing would collapse

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The kettle is boiling, the dog is being cooked, the chop sticks are in the lo mein. Soon, everyone will build everything, for everyone else (and by everything we mean cheap shitty knock offs of western products).

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Clean from lack of use, if only it ran then they still couldn't afford the petrol for it.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Watch and weep, One of the most brutal moggins in history

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ends in 2018
      hehehehe, i wonder why?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it only get worse for the USA after than. You are now buying resold Chinese good and paying more for it.

        Probably not that much considering the planes are Russian.

        The are Chinese plane with wearing Russian skin

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >buying resold Chinese goods
          They're us and Chinese companies operating out of Mexico, so no not really. If anything, we're paying less for most stuff now, because of cheap Mexican labor

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Because it only get worse for the USA after than.
          Hows your decade coming along chnag?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >starts at a complete disparity
      >ends at roughly parity
      >mogging
      Nah

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >united Germany
      >1985

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not really that exceptional.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      compare height-above-tail to the ceiling in each image
      that chink soviet crappy is hella big
      or the maintenance deck is short af (like Chang's ding dong).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's probably both. I was just remarking on the cleanliness, though, naval ships are kept spotless

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Like an anon said earlier in the thread. Recently a western reporter was allowed on to a type 055 and they noticed a couple things.
          >very clean
          >no bulkheads
          >no DC lockers
          >ammo storage in poor areas
          Chinese ships are firecrackers waiting for the tomahawk fuse.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no bulkheads
            wat

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no bulkheads
            One hit's gonna send that thing to the bottom of the ocean.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am just glad that mutts and changs are going into Second Cold War so humanity can finally move on.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When is China going to start innovating? It won't be much of a cold war until that happens.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How is that innovative

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Any other country who has an Antimateriel Grenade Sniper Rifle in service? Isn't being able to develop unique systems that nobody has built before the definition of "innovation"?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >in service
              No
              >isn't being able to develop unique systems innovation
              It is. But a grenade rifle isn't unique. No one uses them because it's a silly idea. They've been tried a lot before, though. Pic rel is one such example

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >we are the only country that chose to replace a LMG with a what ever the fuck this is
              >clearly this shows that we have made a great innovation!
              or it could be that all the countries that have you know fought in the last about half a century think that a LMG is of more use than that thing

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No one has an equivalent of whatever the fuck this piece of shit is supposed to be either.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >in service?
              yeah, turns out if you actually need to snipe people with 25mm grenades at 2000+ yards you just....call air support. we learned that about 20 years ago, so i guess we will see you again in about 20 years when china drops the program.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Isn't being able to develop unique systems that nobody has built before the definition of "innovation"?

              Copying something the Finns did in 1939 isn’t innovation.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All of that scope for a simple zoom and for a nade rifle?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It has an integrated laser range finder if the giant laser warning sticker on the side and laser emitter on the front is anything to go by. The field of view and objective lens is tragically small though, makes me wonder if it's actually electronic zoom meant to be compatible with night vision or something.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It has a smartcope with laser range finder that enables It to shoot those grenades into tight spaces to destroy bunkers/pillboxes from within. Extremely useful for urban warfare where the enemy would be hidding in buildings.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But, who is China going to fight in a purely urban environment?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The invasion of Taiwan means that right after the beach landings there will be urban warfare galore in megacities

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But there will be no invasion of Taiwan?
                It is a US protectorate, they literally can't do anything about it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No programmable sensor fused munitions, though, so it's a bit of a moot point. And the kill radius is pretty shit. I bet it would work well for suppression if you had enough of them, but the rate of fire of just a single one isn't going to be enough

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's kill radious is standard for 35-40mm Grenades

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which is nothing when you are talking about shooting trough windows, since, you know, there won't be a conveniently placed wall to detonate the dumb nade so the target is in the kill radius.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >standard for 35-40mm grenades
                It's not. For one, there's a significant difference between a 35mm grenade and a 40mm grenade, and that goes doubly so for these high velocity 35mm grenades. They're made lighter to reach those velocities which further reduces their kill radius. If you have any evidence for a comparable kill radius I'd love to see it, but physics dictates they're shit

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The XM-29 was literally an HK project that had all of this and more.

              I pray the meteor hits that side of the planet this time.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >smartcope

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think that drones are much more useful. A Blowfish UCAV can literally drop several mortar at ranges of Howitzers (20km) at a fraction of the cost and size.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What a waste of resources lmao

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just like the DJI and FPV drones that everyone thought were nothing more than toys.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are still toys.

                https://i.imgur.com/9Ak8kTs.jpg

                Can you get more precise? Here I’ll give you a militia drip picture.

                Oh fuck, don't actually remember what happened, it is like Game of Thrones down there, it was in central Africa, either the government, the French supported separatists or Wagner killed them, UK was also involved somehow.
                Try reverse-searching the image, maybe?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            holly shit that air pollution

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >see effectiveness of Syrian/Ukrainian drone attacks against small targets
            >squinty chink eyes light up in amazement
            >make the same thing but upscaled to carry 80mm mortar shells
            >purpose-made low-maneuverability drone bigger than a harley fatboy removes all the advantages that were once given to a COTS quadcopter smaller than the case for the PC I'm typing this on
            >smooth chink brain never makes the connection between size and ability to remain unacquired, "BIGGAH JUS BETTAH"
            Implessive

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Already started.
        I am completely for USA and EU under French but I also must recognise that China is growing rapidly, both economically and politically.
        Tell me, honestly, 20 years ago someone told you that China will force European states to recognise countries as they see fit or make Iran behave for a moment? What would your reaction be?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My reaction would be, as it was before: WTF does that have to do with innovation and the onset of a cold war? The competition in innovation is an integral charactistic of the Cold War, in addition to other things (not weapons related, which is why I do not even mention them here), so stop evading and answer.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still no answer outside of
            >smartcope
            which, while a funny typo, isn't innovative. Is the concept of innovation really so alien? Is all the People's Republic Implessive Brigade pushing down to
            >smartcope
            now?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't it have a stowable ladder underneath the LEX like the F18?

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where exactly would the dirt come from?

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mercury vapor (fluorescent) tube lights?
    And their not caged?
    WTF Chang???!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those are LEDs, grandpa.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Those are LEDs
        >this is china we're talking about

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Where do you think all LEDs come from?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Thinks that Chang would spend more money for LED's than mercury vapor lights

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Since you think LEDs are expensive you must not be near a port city. Flyover bumpkin...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the average cost to replace a fluorescent tube with an LED tube is between $20 to $30 per tube
                And now you know why Chang installed fluorescent tubes instead of LEDs

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Worse, stolen LED's are that expensive, lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're not fucking expensive when the Chinese government says "give it to us for free".

                Holy shit are you people retarded. Fuck.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats not how it works for them, they are capitalist though and through. Now they can demand whatever they want ofc, low prices, cut the line, that sort of thing.

                But they rightly know they will kill their industry if they do this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                $20 USD is a lot of money to the average chinaman.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Where do you think all mercury vapor lights come from?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >LED's
        >in a tube
        >with a clear ballast housing
        Lmao, now thats some cope.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/1ZOSc5b.jpg

          >Those are LEDs
          >this is china we're talking about

          Tbf they do make led lights meant to be a direct replacement for fluorescent lighting so you don't have to change out the fixtures. You still have to remove the ballast inside the fixture, but they pop right into the same slots
          >t. Had to do this to hundreds of lights on a carrier while we were in the yards

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Had to do this to hundreds of lights on a carrie
            You were so close chang.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What do you mean? I had to change out hundreds of fluorescent lamps with their led replacements, first cutting out the ballast. The old fluorescent lights didn't last very long anyway, seemed like you never stopped changing them out. The led ones were much more reliable

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What do you mean?
                So, so close.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But we're talking about a new carrier, not a 20 year old US carrier.
            Chang put fluorescent tubes in, not LED. Cheap ass chinky chinks as usual.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >but we're talking about a new carrier
              Good point, there would be no reason to use the direct replacement led tubes on a new carrier. We only used them on ours because we already had the fluorescent fixtures installed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1 (one) single pressure wave enters the deck
      >lol there goes all the lights!

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Picrel deleted 130 Million Chinese by himself. Much respect. China is headed for oblivion no matter what happens.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >China is headed for oblivion
      Can you give me an estimate of how long that might take?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wernt you supposed to be passing the US economy by now? I thought it was in 2018? oh wait was it 2020? Oh wait it was deffo 2022.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have fun wiping 540 Million asses for 11 cents an hour.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    will the chinese ever be tested in a war?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Their commercial DJI drones have been proven to be indispensable in the modern battlefield. And only they can build them in large enough quantities at an affordable price: https://youtu.be/wnJzv01jgb8?si=3vVPDmUu35Y9v9lV
      At the end of the day, wars are won by logistics and industrial output. Look at how WW2 was won.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The soviets were able to outproduce Germany but got their shit pushed in until the Germans ran out of oil. The reality was a lot more nuanced than that, sure, but looking purely at industrial output will give you only part of the picture. The current conflict in Ukraine is also massively overrepresnting the impact of cheap mass produced drones because neither player is capable of sustaining large scale offensive operations, air campaigns or front wide ew. There's no reason to believe a modern, conventional force would just dig trenches and wait for 3 months while the enemy can take the time it needs to noticably attrit it's forces in the way we see there now. Indispensable for reconnaissance, sure, but in no way a replacement for conventional operational methods for waging war

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >At the end of the day, wars are won by logistics and industrial output. Look at how WW2 was won.
        Classic example of fighting the last war. The age of grinding attritional war has come and gone - you go to war with what you have, and if the enemy is on your doorstep (and not horribly inept like the Russians) there's a good chance you're not going to get to build much of anything. Drone factories are debatable but shipping is the classic example of this - in most wargames China fails to float any relevant amount of tonnage after the first shots are fired because it's effectively impossible to defend the yards against cruise missile vomit.

        Given another decade or two this calculus will probably change again with the advent of laser point defence, but as it stands geographical distance is one of the only reliable ways to protect your factories in the modern era.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One of the unforseen benefits of the ICBM is it makes any rocket big and strong enough to strike at strategic targets say, across the pacific, too risky to use for fear of sparking a preemptive nuclear response, even if the missile is conventional in nature. It always shifts the ball to who can make better planes and better plane-launched munitions, rather than who throws the biggest missiles.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah... that's one fine carrier deck... WHY DOESN'T MINE LOOK LIKE THAT?

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If China is so great, why does every Chink with money immediately move abroad?

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As a non plane nagger, looks exactly like every american plane ever made post 1970

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vely crean

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dapper/ Alpha asf

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is that Xi's escort?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on what you mean by "escort"

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