Crysknife irl

What would be the closest thing to a crysknife irl? Purely in terms of shape and functionality. I’ve been looking and I’ve found stuff like the k98 bayonet, the mall ninja Apoc yatagahn, some Yugo bayonets etc. mostly I’ve found bayonets are the closest thing. All im looking for is a blade roughly ~18inches overall with a thinner blade profile. Anyone else have an idea? Most likely I’m gonna get the k98 bayo as paying $140 for the Apoc mall ninja piece of stamped steel is just a bit too much.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No idea in terms of shape, but materialswise I'd go with Obsidian.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do have a yugo m48 bayo reproduction as well, for a poo product it's actually pretty decent. Sharpened it and it's holding up well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Crysknife

      There is no naturally occurring substance as good for a blade as modern steels are. Literally nothing in nature comes close.

      Ivory is too soft. As are most naturally occurring metals like gold, lead, and bronze. Any minerals like crystal or obsidian are WAY to brittle and will chip easily. You might have some luck with a knife made of industrial ceramic, which can be made scary sharp, but they chip really easily and will not hold an edge long.

      I think he just means the shape.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Φ

    Every crysknife in the new films is unique, so shape is whatever you like.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >namegay

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Crysknife

    There is no naturally occurring substance as good for a blade as modern steels are. Literally nothing in nature comes close.

    Ivory is too soft. As are most naturally occurring metals like gold, lead, and bronze. Any minerals like crystal or obsidian are WAY to brittle and will chip easily. You might have some luck with a knife made of industrial ceramic, which can be made scary sharp, but they chip really easily and will not hold an edge long.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah dude I don’t want/expect the material to be the same. Just what an actual knife that can be bought today that has a similar blade profile would look like

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably a kris.
    I mean, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were the inspiration

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the books have a pretty specific implied cultural background for the fremen, being arabian tribes blended with caucasus muslims, so a Javanese knife wouldn't make sense.
      I'm pretty sure it's as dumb as implying the sandworm tooth is crystalline and the edge knapped similar to obsidian.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wouldn't overthink it. Javanese are muslims too and the name kris/crys is literally the same. Odds are its a straight ripoff just like most of the stuff in the book.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Javanese are muslims too
          The Kris is an old cultural symbol and many have supposedly magical inscriptions on them and are considered to have supernatural powers. Its historical origins are Hindu and Buddhist. This is fundamentally incompatible with Islam which didn't come to Indonesia until hundreds of years later.

          >and the name kris/crys is literally the same.
          "Kris" just means "dagger" in Javanese. "Crys" in Dune is a reference to crystals. They have nothing to do with each other, they just happen to sound similar.

          Meanwhile the knives look nothing alike; you can't tell me picrel looks anything like what's in OP.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a while ago I was at a big flea market and a dude had a couple of these. historic originals, blade with that special damascus and with intricately carved handle made from ivory

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My guy they are also ardent believers in Zensunni Buddislam, some Javanese aesthetic heritage would hardly be out of line.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean, sure, in so much as it's fiction and Frank can put whatever in his book and it's never specifically stated to mean anything. so yes. there is zero backing to either argument.
          Having said that.
          the zensunni stuff it explicitly part of the benegeserit cultural programming whereas the Chakobsa language (which is real) and survival traditions are (implied to be) the natural fremen heritage. which would include the crysknife.

          i just don't think it follows from what is described.
          and the book's description doesn't match.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >kris
      Lolwhut? Those have a wavy blade shape and the base of the blade flares out wide to act as a cross guard. These knives look nothing like that. It's just a plain dagger-shaped blade and no guard at all.
      I'm not familiar with the show but the knives in the OP pic look like kinjals or Scottish dirks

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looking at your image closer and searching for a few more they seem to have a Falcata/Kopis/Kukri type shape but more subtle/far less pronounced, so I'm going to say no since it's just a really bad shape for a knife.
    This kind of shape is usually reserved for swords since you can't really chop with the mass of a small knife and it makes for worse stabbing.
    If you want a slender blade with minimal cross-guard and a slightly curved handle dare I say vz. 58 bayonet
    The blade is straight and not as long mind you.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kindjal with 20 cm long blade

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the books the Atriedes use kinjal knives for dueling, looks like they carried it over in the film.

    Sort of an eastern euro gladius.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >kinjal knives
      >dagger knives

      Right up there with Chai Tea, Lung Dragon, and Pelmeni Dumplings as far as translations go.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1907 Enfield bayonet fits the bill

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If that blade could talk.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If that blade could talk.
        "I clanked around in some butthole's rucksack for 900 miles and then he stuck me onna rifle for parade duty and then some other butthole dunked me in pet jelly and threw me in a crate for 60 years. frick you all"

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dune is such fricking trash.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just wait until they get to the later books.

      You wouldn't think they could talk about a man-worm without a penis WANTING a penis more than once, but it happens at least 5 or 6 times.

      Sadly Denis is too pussy to go past the 2nd book.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The world isn't ready for a proper TV/Movie adaptation of Books 3-5.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably something like an Indo-Persian Kard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      looks like a german kitchen knife

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They tend to be massively thick across the spine though, usually 5mm to about 1/4" with a lot of mass, the Kard is basically 'knife' in Persian so its a bit broad in that sense. I make a lot of kitchen knives and most of them are rarely more than 4mm at the thickest point near the bolster area with a fairly severe distal taper and very thin (1/4mm) behind the edge.
        If you ever get to see some of the antique Indo-persian knives they're really quite rugged and pretty tough things

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its not 5mm thickthats only at the base for the finger guard they are around 3mm thick at the top at most

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The ones I've seen typically have a fairly massive construction, some have fullers, others will put a swedge along the spine, others have T-shaped profile in the geometry along the spine and quite a few have a really heavily reinforced tip for stabbing things.
            Same with the Turkish Yatagans are similar in their mass on a comparative scale, they tend to have more distal taper though

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.messerspezialist.de/kochmesser.html

              I dont think we are talking about the same thing here.
              I am talking about the typical german kitchen knife and not some butcher cleaver.
              Those can get to 5mm easily

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >posts french knife
        >calls it german knife

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >franks
          >not german

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so a chef's knife?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it is me or is anyone else seeing a bit of Seax in those knives? They're not the "broken back" blade shape that seems so popular but not all Seaxes had that, and the handles look very Seax.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, there's plenty of long and pokey seax's out there since they got introduced into Europe around the 4th-5th centuries and evolved over the centuries
      Even a big-ass fighting knife like a Hauswehr, Rugger or Bauenwehr as more renaissance era variants have some fairly similar, basic designs as well

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Persian jambiya. These are what the crysknife was based on in terms of size and shape.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >jambiya
      You're on as much crack as the Kris guy. Jambiyas are curved and have ornate hilts. Where do you see either feature in OP's pic?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're kinda shaped like yataghans, which are usually either short swords or long knives.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >crysknife

    was it not... Kriss knife?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      crys(tal)knife, from the crystalline properties of the sandworm teeth. the indonesia keris/kriss is also pronounced kuh-ris, not "kriss"

      https://i.imgur.com/H0UekQS.jpg

      Persian jambiya. These are what the crysknife was based on in terms of size and shape.

      https://i.imgur.com/hV4HvDb.jpg

      In the books the Atriedes use kinjal knives for dueling, looks like they carried it over in the film.

      Sort of an eastern euro gladius.

      The House Atriedes dueling blades were based on the Caucausian Khindjal, the straight double-edged steel knife. In the books, the crysknife is described as curved and double edged, like the Indo-Persian jambiya (and NOT the arab/North African jambiya), made of a crystal tooth, fitted with a plain handle and a simple metal ferrule. The tip of the nerve exposed the nerve cavity of the sandworm and is filled with a bloodborne toxin similar to curare or strychnine

      The Fremen are a patriarchal society that should look more like the Bedouin/North African (Pale to Tan but should be more pale because their wear the stillsuit 24/7.

      When the director heard that the Fremen were based on Bedouin/North African he immediately went "All Africans are black" so he decided to add black Fremen to the film.

      They made Kynes a black women because Yas slay queen. while ignoring that the Fremen are Patriarchal and that single combat decides on the ruler.

      Because of that they got rid of Jamis's Family because after Paul kills him, Jamis's Wife and Kids become Paul's property in the book.

      >that should look more like
      They're 20,000 years in the future and whatever they look like has no relevance whatsoever to the the cultural interpretations Herbert made when writing the book.
      Additionally, the Fremen are the degenerated remnants of a culture called the Wandering Zensunni that migrated through 9 different planets before settling on Arrakis and recruited members of its society from at least a dozen other planets, so they were multiracial to begin with. So much like in the United States or Brazil, you will see the entire spectrum of skin colors and ethnic signifiers intermingled throughout every strata of Fremen society without any strong division

      It's absurd how little effort they put into the costumes. It's just some rubber shit over a jumpsuit. I mean, it doesn't look like it protects from anything, and the shape doesn't serve a purpose, aside from maybe the shoulder and elbow guards, which aren't properly fitted.
      Also, why aren't the fremen racially homogenous? Why do they look like some random collection of American urbanites?

      a stilsuit is literally a rubber suit over a cloth outfit filled with water bladders and osmotic filters, it would be suspicious if it wasn't made of rubber

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it would be suspicious if it wasn't made of rubber
        The point isn't that it's made of rubber, the point is that it looks like shit, and doesn't even fit. With the enormous budgets they have, they could have gotten both someone with the necessary knowledge to design the suits, and experts in the field to make them.
        As it is, it looks like a poorly made, poorly fitted costume, rather than something made for the purpose of survival or warfare. Even the brightly colored, stupid Marvel and DC shit is at least tailored to the actors.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I take your point, they looked great in the first version, but that's because David Lynch is a BDSM freakazoid.
          I think they were trying to lean away from the outright fetish gear look, but unfortunately managed to land squarely in Dr. Who costume design territory

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even this 1990 B-movie did it better.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >hardware
              >ministry intensifies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron no matter what they look like they should all look the same, they are a single race and there are only a few million of them in total. This burger king's kids club bullshit is just blatant and always has been.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll explain, at least how the writer of Dune described the majority of Fremen.

        It's absurd how little effort they put into the costumes. It's just some rubber shit over a jumpsuit. I mean, it doesn't look like it protects from anything, and the shape doesn't serve a purpose, aside from maybe the shoulder and elbow guards, which aren't properly fitted.
        Also, why aren't the fremen racially homogenous? Why do they look like some random collection of American urbanites?

        The Fremen are a patriarchal society that should look more like the Bedouin/North African (Pale to Tan but should be more pale because their wear the stillsuit 24/7.

        When the director heard that the Fremen were based on Bedouin/North African he immediately went "All Africans are black" so he decided to add black Fremen to the film.

        They made Kynes a black women because Yas slay queen. while ignoring that the Fremen are Patriarchal and that single combat decides on the ruler.

        Because of that they got rid of Jamis's Family because after Paul kills him, Jamis's Wife and Kids become Paul's property in the book.

        moron no matter what they look like they should all look the same, they are a single race and there are only a few million of them in total. This burger king's kids club bullshit is just blatant and always has been.

        They are described as "olive skinned", and also developing tough and "leathery" appearances due to a spice-prolonged lifetime of such rigorous water limited practices.
        "olive" for whatever reason, describes types III IV and V on this scale.

        But it's a current-year movie made by a stinking quebecois frnehcman artiste, of course it's full of shit. What did you expect.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >described as "olive skinned"
          that's what happens when you spend a life outdoors. This man and woman are Iranian, so they are the ne plus ultra archtypical white man, yet is also "olive-skinned". You can see the child has begun to darken but it much paler, and the woman on the right is a city-bred Iranian who retains the original pigmentation.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >iranians
            >white

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/uGZuPYe.gif

            >iranians
            >white

            forgot the pic.
            that's literally what the word means. Iranian=Aryan

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >described as "olive skinned"
              that's what happens when you spend a life outdoors. This man and woman are Iranian, so they are the ne plus ultra archtypical white man, yet is also "olive-skinned". You can see the child has begun to darken but it much paler, and the woman on the right is a city-bred Iranian who retains the original pigmentation.

              Yes exactly.

              I have *some* North Syrian ancestry (my mother's grandmother is 3/4), her side of the family are nondescript "aryan" type white Americans. You wouldn't ever know without asking.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >mother's grandmother
                meant to say mother's mother, my grandmother.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's absurd how little effort they put into the costumes. It's just some rubber shit over a jumpsuit. I mean, it doesn't look like it protects from anything, and the shape doesn't serve a purpose, aside from maybe the shoulder and elbow guards, which aren't properly fitted.
    Also, why aren't the fremen racially homogenous? Why do they look like some random collection of American urbanites?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well it was nominated for Best Costume Design in 2022 at the Oscars, BAFTAs, CFCAs, CCAs, HCAs, OFCSs, SFCSs, SLFCAs, and then won the Costume Designers Guild Award for Excellence in Sci-Fi/Fantasy.

      I'd say they did at least an okay job.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'd say they did at least an okay job.
        Given what those shitshows have become, doesn't that imply the opposite?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dude, movie awards don't mean much anymore.
        don't use that as an example of being good.
        I liked the first movie for what it was trying and thought it pulled it off well, but that doesn't mean the suits deserve an award.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >appeal to israelite authority
        have a nice day, post haste.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they again had stillsuits with exposed heads and mouths, because mooovie consoomers are unable to read eyes and infer context, such moisture wasted! when they miss details like that, you lose the sense of danger in the desert, what consequence is it if jessica pukes? everyone is releasing moisture through their mouth, but at least they have gloves this time
        and cool, they gave the EXTRA WHITE baron harkonen a garbage bag mumu to wear, fitting for a man of royalty
        i saw many weird smears in the harkonen paste makeup
        but everything is such shit now, yea, it was the best

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Show me what movies you think did costumes properly recently.

          I'll happily laugh at your shit taste.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I need to defend meh films because I'm a peak consoomer!!!
            don't ask questions just consume product and then get excited for next product

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >There aren't any better movies, but I refuse to concede the point anyway.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I need to consoome this garbage because I do!!!
                Enjoy your funko pops.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I thought the new dune movies were shit tbh but force 'viral marketing' means I have to tell you that. Movies that did costumes well?
            Zulu
            Waterloo
            A Bridge too far
            Star wars a new hope
            Indiana Jones
            Saving private Ryan
            Ghostbusters
            Films that are boring brown shit staring emo zoomers who can't act: dune 1 & 2
            Its a measure of how bad cinema is right now that dune 1/2 were even released or continued after 1.One of the most visually bland films I have ever seen. They got the knives wrong as well.

            https://i.imgur.com/A38v4Pl.jpg

            >What would be the closest thing to a crysknife irl?
            Its a kinjal or Qama or Khanjali ( Circassian or cossack or georgian) a knife form from the Caucasus knife culture in the recent film

            in the book?
            "According to the 1965 novel Dune, it is made from the crystal tooth of Shai'Hulud, the giant sandworms that live below the sands of the desert planet Arrakis. A crysknife is the formal and sacred weapon of the planet's native Fremen. It is a milk-white, double-edged curved knife, the blade about 20 centimeters long."
            a north african/middleastern jambiya

            samegay

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >did costumes properly recently
              >most recent film posted is from 1998
              wewlad, I'm glad you conceded.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sorry that youre not old enough to understand that modern cinema is ass, zoomzoom

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fact you're bringing up movies primarily from the 1960's and 1970's already shows what kind of moronic moron you are. No need to keep proving it to me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Fremen are a patriarchal society that should look more like the Bedouin/North African (Pale to Tan but should be more pale because their wear the stillsuit 24/7.

      When the director heard that the Fremen were based on Bedouin/North African he immediately went "All Africans are black" so he decided to add black Fremen to the film.

      They made Kynes a black women because Yas slay queen. while ignoring that the Fremen are Patriarchal and that single combat decides on the ruler.

      Because of that they got rid of Jamis's Family because after Paul kills him, Jamis's Wife and Kids become Paul's property in the book.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >When the director heard that the Fremen were based on Bedouin/North African he immediately went "All Africans are black" so he decided to add black Fremen to the film.
        Nah, they know, and it's deliberate.
        I started tallying up how many bad guy (Harkonnen, Sardaukar, etc) actors are white, and how many good guy (Atreides, Fremen, etc) actors are not white, but I'm simply too lazy to jot down the statistics. But yeah, it's exactly what you would expect it to be. Also, disregard the whole thing about grey morality, because that's not a thing in the movies, but I think you're aware of that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When compared to other films that have come out in the woke era DUNC is a 8-9/10. When compared to movies that come out before the woke Era it is a 4/10 at best.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            imagine actually believing this shit

            those movies still exist, and they're shit. You pining after them doesn't make them any better.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The quality of Cinema is declined rapidly in the woke era.

              Are you suggesting that the films that are being released today are good?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not only are they good, they're better in production quality than basically anything before.

                Oppenheimer and Dune part 2 are unironically GOAT cinema.

                On that note, we're also getting some of the best TV ever produced in the last decade as well.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What the frick kind of degenerate moron are you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The kind that looks at things objectively instead of if it's "woke" or not.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                personally i dont like how drab dunc is. Dune is a series that really deserves vibrant and exotic designs.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Absolutely shit taste, dear god

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Production quality, as in editing, sound effects, etc but the casting, writing and messaging are absolute trash

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the atreides are all white outside of recruited foreigners and are portrayed as being as close to moral paladins as you can get.

          the harkonnen aren't 'white' so much as going for the extremely old trope of 'unnaturally pale monsters', which is ancient.

          of all the things to complain about the dune movies, race politics isn't one of them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The stillsuit is collecting and filtering moisture to recycle in the desert, it's not armor. It basically looks like the ones in the first adaptation.

      All the houses had genetic uniformity in the first movie, like all the Harkonnen being gingers, but that doesn't fly in current year.

      I'm not even racist but it's a pity they have to shoehorn this stuff in all the time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >All the houses had genetic uniformity
        the Fremen are descended from a multi-planetary band of nomadic cultists the recruited across the galaxy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Also, why aren't the fremen racially homogenous?
      because it's an entire planet with nearly 20000 years of human settlement

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Reach other planets
        >Still have black people
        Impossible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think the fremen suits look ok. They're environmental survival suits for guerilla fighters and outside battle they're usually clad in cloaks and survival gear. In part 2 the fedaykin put on actual battle suits with armor n shieet.
      My complaint is the sardaurkar combat suits looking like rubber shit over a jumpsuit. As the emperor's elite fighters in a neofeudal society they should've been decked out in at least some bling. At least there are standard bearers in part 2.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i dont support or pay for goyslop propaganda take your stupidity over to /vg/ or /toy/

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do shields work exactly? if an M1 abrams shoots an apfsds round at a shielded guy what happens? does it:

    A. stop the dart completely and cause it to ricochet or something

    B. technically stop it, but send the guy flying hard enough to liquefy him inside the shield

    C. overload the shield and cut the guy in half

    bonus question: what does a flamethrower do?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      B to C. They absolutely do get thrown back as in B.
      Shield reacts to fast objects including as slow as a person can swing their arms. The shield can also be overtuned to be nearly airtight as the baron harkonen does when Leto tries to kill him with the tooth. Also it is scifi, don't overthink why lasguns not only cause a shield explosion but also explodes the lasgun.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Also it is scifi, don't overthink why lasguns not only cause a shield explosion but also explodes the lasgun.
        Doesn't it basically cause atomic fission when the lasgun hits the shield and creates an explosion large enough to destroy a small city killing the target, and the shooter.

        That's why they had to retconn that whole part of the tech for the movies. Lasgun vs shield = nuke.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Doesn't it basically cause atomic fission when the lasgun hits the shield and creates an explosion large enough to destroy a small city killing the target, and the shooter.
          sometimes. it's random, but that's the worst case scenario

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          most of dune is just not great for visual adaptation, especially the shielded fighting techniques. I don't think there IS a way to do it justice and not look moronic. Also a shitload of context and backstory is in inner monologues, which modern director simply hate doing.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't people in Dune universe use a gun-spear hybrid like the 40k Custodes do? The gun in the end could easily bypass the shield and fire inside it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because the point of shields was to give a somewhat reasonable excuse for swordfighting in a sci-fi universe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because the point of shields was to give a somewhat reasonable excuse for swordfighting in a sci-fi universe

      Frankly it should be even more medieval. Articulated ballistic armor for the nobility to prevent somebody shoving and uzi through your shield and every random blade sneaking in opening you up. Which would make wrestling with rondel daggers the preferred way to dispatch your enemy.

      Herbert is a libtard, he doesn't like murder, war, and death. Thus he has no interest in extrapolating the logical fighting styles that might develop as the result of his hypothetical technology.

      In reality if they had enough water a conscript army from WW2 would slaughter both sides because they can' use shields most of the time. Formations of bayonets and rifle volleys would humiliate the forces described.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Herbert is a libtard, he doesn't like murder, war, and death.

        but his books feature plenty of it. I just think fighting sequences don't really appeal to him, tho the books after god emperor have a lot more fighting (and are shit).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but its all in the context of politics. And frankly they aren't well thought through. I never read past the first book because I got bored so I don't know beyond that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who else liked the ornithopter shotguns?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I loved the ornithopter shotgun. reminded me of project SPIW and felt like smart scifi instead of stupid scifi

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the qama.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They all have slighly different shapes in the movie, so it really depends which one you're talking about. Most standard dagger shaped knives will fit the bill.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not shape or functionality wise, but the crysknife to me always seemed to be something like the Sikh kirpan, where it was both a functional weapon and an object of religious significance to the wearer. At least to me there's the parallel symbolism of the Fremen (Arabic/Berber/Central Asian-inspired holy warriors) wielding their crysknives against the Padishah Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV (Persians), and the Sikhs wielding their weapons and faith against the significantly larger, more powerful, Muslim/Hindu rulers in the form of the Mughals and then Hindu India. Sikhism is a very marital religion and a major reason why they were able to be independent despite overwhelming odds.
    Plus you're supposed to wear the kirpan on you at all times as a Sikh as part of your religious beliefs, which is similar to the concept of the crysknife needing to be near the wearer to not disintegrate, and that whenever a crysknife is shown it's something that is also a religious object and marker of the wielder as someone accepted by the Fremen more generally. There's a passage where the Harkonnens are promising an extremely large reward for a crysknife but are unable to get one due to no Fremen being willing to hand such a holy artifact to an outsider. The Harkonnens (or maybe it was Thufir Hawat, it's been a long time since I read the book) even mention that any outsider could show a crysknife and gain entrance to the deepest and most reclusive sietches, proving the religious and cultural importance of such a weapon. I would say that a crysknife is probably not the best melee weapon in the Dune universe, but definitely the most culturally and religiously significant, which fits with the kirpan being not the best weapon on the Indian subcontinent but the most culturally recognizable to a minority group/religion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's a kirpan being worn diagonal across the body on a sash

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oops image didn't attach

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And the kirpan is to be worn by men and women who are of age, similar to how Fremen children and the elderly of both genders are described as learning the knife and being as deadly with them as the strongest Sardaukar.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's a kirpan being worn diagonal across the body on a sash

      https://i.imgur.com/LT9Q6eJ.jpg

      And the kirpan is to be worn by men and women who are of age, similar to how Fremen children and the elderly of both genders are described as learning the knife and being as deadly with them as the strongest Sardaukar.

      Excellent posts, excellent parallel, and excellent resemblance.
      The sandworm teeth always evoked an image to me of a cross between whale balene and sharktooth rows, and that "kirpan" fits such a function. Most artists go with that shape too.
      70's hippies & New Age found India very much in vogue, so a Sikh inspiration would fit Herbert's time period too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's interesting to note that the kirpan really is a more modern creation based on blade length restrictions first from Hindu rulers and then the British Raj and now modern day India. Historically Sikhs would have just carried normal swords as they are required to carry a blade for self-defense, and the Sikh text does not specify the length of a blade. Here's a photo of some soldiers from the Sikh Regiment in WW2. Note that they are just carrying regular swords along with what appears to be a longer kirpan on the waist/hip of second from right. I tried looking through the British Museum for illustrations of kirpans in pre-Raj India and couldn't find any depictions, usually the men are with a sword. Maybe it's because there were no blade length laws, maybe the smaller dagger was worn inside and therefore invisible to observers, I'm honestly not quite sure but I would guess that the short dagger-like modern kirpan is definitely post-1900s, if not post-WW2.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/Hd7quk7.jpg

        It's interesting to note that the kirpan really is a more modern creation based on blade length restrictions first from Hindu rulers and then the British Raj and now modern day India. Historically Sikhs would have just carried normal swords as they are required to carry a blade for self-defense, and the Sikh text does not specify the length of a blade. Here's a photo of some soldiers from the Sikh Regiment in WW2. Note that they are just carrying regular swords along with what appears to be a longer kirpan on the waist/hip of second from right. I tried looking through the British Museum for illustrations of kirpans in pre-Raj India and couldn't find any depictions, usually the men are with a sword. Maybe it's because there were no blade length laws, maybe the smaller dagger was worn inside and therefore invisible to observers, I'm honestly not quite sure but I would guess that the short dagger-like modern kirpan is definitely post-1900s, if not post-WW2.

        Here's a painting from the early 1800s held by the British Museum of a Sikh chieftain on the right meeting with some visitors. Note the small handle tucked in to his sash by his waist-- I'm not sure if it's a dagger-sized kirpan and the museum says that it's his pistol, but the grip doesn't look particularly gun-like and has a lanyard loop which matches with some contemporary kirpan designs worn on a sash. He does have a sword on him as is common with most period depictions of Sikh formal wear. You can see his metal bangle on his left wrist, his turban, and his unshaven beard, clearly marking him as a Sikh. I have to assume his comb is somewhere internally in a pocket.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    looks like a gladius without hand protection
    any long dagger
    http://www.arms-armor.com/products/swiss-long-dagger-detail_577

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's something about seeing twinks in combat situations. it's like women, very cute but also just an overwhelming desire to rape

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have you considered trying to reach out to whatever prop company made it? I'm sure there's some nerd out there who works for those companies who could tell you what they did. It won't be functional at all but it might make for a nice display item.

    Technically anything can be sharp but only for its first cut.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What would be the closest thing to a crysknife irl?
    Its a kinjal or Qama or Khanjali ( Circassian or cossack or georgian) a knife form from the Caucasus knife culture in the recent film

    in the book?
    "According to the 1965 novel Dune, it is made from the crystal tooth of Shai'Hulud, the giant sandworms that live below the sands of the desert planet Arrakis. A crysknife is the formal and sacred weapon of the planet's native Fremen. It is a milk-white, double-edged curved knife, the blade about 20 centimeters long."
    a north african/middleastern jambiya

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's over!

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to say that I've paid to see Part 2 twice and I'll definitely pay to see Part 3 at least twice when it inevitably comes out.
    Cope, seethe, dilate etc.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I loved part 2
      the wave of channer contrarianism is just as meaningless as it's ever been. the film has huge flaws but is still fricking great anyway. the Atreiedes attack in part 1 and the worm riding scenes in part 2 justify the entire thing just by themselves

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah the film was pretty good overall.
        The only things I didn't like were the costume design (a little too plain for my tastes, kinda just felt like watered down Destiny) and Zendaya (she's just not a good actor nor is she particularly good looking)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Zendaya
          Villeneuve wanted to do Le Cautionary Tale so as the main squeeze of the protagonist she HAD to be strong independent women character. It doesn't work because the bad guys as show in the movie are so evil that any practical reasonable person would agree with Paul's decisions (see - Starship Troopers). So Chani comes off as an idealistic moron.
          That and the time compression also really fricks with the plot, so we'll see how part 3 turns out. Despite a couple missteps I really enjoy the first two.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            On the whole I think he did a really good job adapting the story. It's not 1:1 with the book, but that's absolutely fine in the service of trying to best tell that story in another medium.
            As for the reworking of Chani I think it's more to do with taking up some of the slack from the cut internal monologues. She gives some more chances for the film to draw attention to the fact it's not meant to be a heroic arc, or even really what anybody particularly wants to be doing.
            Either way though, I'm honestly super impressed with the films he pulled together. Even if the later stuff sucks, Villeneuve can tuck at least one impossible adaption under his belt and that ain't nothing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >strong independent women character.
            that's what she was in the original books you fricking mongoloid.
            >Wait til you hear about how the wokes RUINED Star Wars with a strong independent WAHMEN character because DEI ESG OMG WTF BBQ

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm looking at an eastern gladius from the late period. You can buy them online.
    For LARP value you could blue the blade or apply an acid etch, if it was a cheap blade this would work very well.

    If you want a knife made from bone, I think you'd carve a knife from antler, strain it black, then apply an enamel... as in a true enamel like a dentist. Probably too expensive and the result would suck in terms of durability

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Protip: You are not gonna have any use for a combat knife and having one increases your chances of getting killed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post your gun real quick.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pops into sword thread
      >"um ackshually you're never going to need that"
      >leaves smugly

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We need a remaster of this so much:

    Also, actual mechanized armies.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bet you dollars to donuts the props in this movie were designed after these funny Flip daggers.

    The originals would have been something like a Jambiya, it's pretty obvious that's what they were. Curved and double edged?

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the closest real life version would be Seax which is an anglo-saxon dagger given to boys as a right of passage and sign of manhood.

    Historical ones are long pointy double edged daggers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon the one in the movie is literally modeled after some SEA monkey knife

      https://i.imgur.com/HauVYgQ.jpg

      I bet you dollars to donuts the props in this movie were designed after these funny Flip daggers.

      The originals would have been something like a Jambiya, it's pretty obvious that's what they were. Curved and double edged?

      The one in the book is modeled after a famous middle eastern dagger.

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