Everyone was expecting a missile attack or something obvious. But instead Ukraine (if they did it) chose a method for complete plausible deniability. Smart move.
>the train exploding
it doesn't appear that the train exploded, it's merely burning. an actual explosion of any magnitude would have thrown most of those rail cars off the bridge.
With how piss-poor Russian logistics are you just know there's a car or two full of artillery shells a little further down the train.
>Uh...Boris, should we be putting of 152mm shells with this fuel train >Why do you b***h Igor train is safe on way to Crimea, do you want waste time prepping second train? >Will miss of opportunity to get wiener sucked by new conscripts if you do >What am I thinking Boris, this is best plan!
>Implying any conversations happen at all >Implying the paperwork isn't just waved along, initialed because "Why would it be incorrect? If it was incorrect, it wouldnt be on the paper!"
Why worry about something that isn't going to happen?
With how piss-poor Russian logistics are you just know there's a car or two full of artillery shells a little further down the train.
>Uh...Boris, should we be putting of 152mm shells with this fuel train >Why do you b***h Igor train is safe on way to Crimea, do you want waste time prepping second train? >Will miss of opportunity to get wiener sucked by new conscripts if you do >What am I thinking Boris, this is best plan!
Earlier today I saw where a load of S300 rockets had literally fallen off a truck onto a roadway during shipment through Russia and that's when I knew the 'Rossiya cannot into pallet' meme was not a meme
>There's currently a train actively burning on the rail section. We may yet see it collapse if it's full of ammo and fuel.
It actually does not matter if it collapses or not. Concrete in burning fuel means that no train will run over it again until it is replaced or it will really collapse.
These are Russians we're talking about. They'll keep sending trains over the rail section, pretending nothing is happening as the bridge visibly breaks down until it finally collapses along with the final train it ever bears.
>Kherson front collapses >Ukraine is knocking on the door of Donbas and took back Lyman >Kerch Bridge gets fricked up
Russia not having much fun this past week.
>And that the explosion was an accident
Another smooker?
Wow, smoking must really be dangerous, taking out all those spread around airplane and now bridge...
YES
Russia explicitly constructed it at a height that prevented a number of large cargo ships from passing under it. This limited what kind of ships could enter the Sea of Azov and therefore the efficiency of doing business as coastal industrial cities. Steel isn't exactly a hard to get good; having to use five10,000 ton ships instead of a 50,000 ton ship (or whatever, example numbers) cuts into the margins you can make on manufacture and sales.
The bridge was literally constructed to play frick frick games with Ukraine and as an implement of economic warfare.
memes aside, I think we'll see Russia escalate its terror campaign on Ukrainian infrastructure, 100%. They'll probably try and hit every power plant and bridge in the country
I personally think it's car bomb, submersible suicide drone thing, or special forces. I don't know if a car bomb could do enough damage, unless it's Timmy McVeigh nuclear van style. Submersible drone lets you get right up to a support beam and blow it. I don't know how special forces would do it or how they'd get in or out.
if it was ATACMS, I bet uncle sam said to Ukraine, "fine, here's one, show my what you'll do with it and maybe you'll get another." But could ATACMS even do this?
>the point of origin of the explosion is clearly the train
I doubt that.
I don’t see how an explosion on the train can bring down the road.
If anything it’s the other way around. The tanker is flammable.
Definitely not... there are sections of road dislodged much further away from the explosion from the train. Also why does the sections close to the train on the other side still remain in place?
Clearly the whole thing was rigged from under to dislodge the sections of road. They've done this many times on other bridges around ukraine already. Same method.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no. also, the train and railway is a much more likely target because its literally how the russians are bringing in their supplies for kherson
the road sections collapsing will have the nice added bonus of creating mass panic though
2 years ago
Anonymous
What did you mean no? There is no way an explosion from the railway affected the road below. It didn't even dislodge the train from its tracks..
Clearly both areas were hit spontaneously.
I wanna say it’s absolute bullshit that a bridge of this magnitude can just have parts shaken off, but this is Russia we’re talking about.
I just assumed shrapnel from the explosion lit the train on fire, but nothing has made sense in this war.
>>the point of origin of the explosion is clearly the train,
it clearly isn't - an explosion on the rail line that is big enough to throw entire road spans into the water is also big enough to throw those cars hundreds of meters away, and it didn't, the earliest videos showed the road sections dropped and only one or two rail cars burning, more recent ones show a huge rail fire but that's now how it started.. the ukrainians snuck a shitton of explosives underneath the road and the blast ignited a fuel tanker car.
>explosion on the rail line that is big enough to throw entire road spans into the water is also big enough to throw those cars hundreds of meters away
you really trust russian contstruction?
there is no explosive damage to any road section. theyre all completely clean breaks and collapses. feel free to show me an image otherwise
there are no breaks. bridges aren't made in one unitary piece, they're made in separate spans that sit on pillars. entire spans of this bridge were lifted up and sideways off their supports. unless the ukrainians brought in one hell of a crane while nobody was watching, then there was some other type of upward and sideways pressure that did this. a low-brisance explosion would seem the simplest explanation, but I'm open for any other ideas you might have.
one thing I'm absolutely sure of is that the explosion didn't occur on the rail line, the rail cars going up was a secondary effect.
2 years ago
Anonymous
again, there is absolutely no explosive damage to the support pillars or beams. they literally just fell off their support, the sections themselves are also completely unharmed and intact
feel free to post an image supporting your claim
2 years ago
Anonymous
>they literally just fell off their support
so your claim is that they got sleepy and fell over?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yup, thanks to glorious russian engineering lol
>dropped spans on both sides of the road >no blast damage
where is the explosive damage in pic related?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ukraine isn't strong! we just suck!
2 years ago
Anonymous
ukraine is strong, but that doesnt mean you have to make up a fantasy story about what happened
we value truth here in the west, not propaganda
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol no. see
https://i.imgur.com/evqWWkY.jpg
Bridge still burning
2 years ago
Anonymous
HEY YOU BRAINDEAD FRICKING Black person LOOK AT THIS
MOMENT OF EXPLOSION
I WAS FRICKING RIGHT
2 years ago
Anonymous
again, there is absolutely no explosive damage to the support pillars or beams. they literally just fell off their support, the sections themselves are also completely unharmed and intact
feel free to post an image supporting your claim
guys you are overlooking the obvious answer, the bridge sections have to be attached the pillars somehow right? instead of spending money buying the material needed and then paying workers to complete the work, the construction company owner simply kept that money and it became a new Mercedes benz S class or perhaps the down payment on nice new apartment in London.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The spans fell off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
did they trip over their shoelaces?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Is that typical?
2 years ago
Anonymous
there are no breaks. bridges aren't made in one unitary piece, they're made in separate spans that sit on pillars. entire spans of this bridge were lifted up and sideways off their supports. unless the ukrainians brought in one hell of a crane while nobody was watching, then there was some other type of upward and sideways pressure that did this. a low-brisance explosion would seem the simplest explanation, but I'm open for any other ideas you might have.
one thing I'm absolutely sure of is that the explosion didn't occur on the rail line, the rail cars going up was a secondary effect.
Neither of you is an engineer and it shows.
Bridges are simply not built to withstand fires. You don't need to melt a structure to completely frick up it's function beyond all repair
anon, concrete is a mixture of rocks and a cementing binder agent. the "melting" is happening to the binder agent - which turns the "solid concrete" into "scalding hot mud with some gravel in it"
you can't build a bridge with muddy gravel
and that bonding agent is... another ceramic. concrete melts apprx at 1500 degree celcius. Approximate the point where liquid steel completely disassembles on a molecular structure level, in fact. You find those temperatures in... industrial furnaces.
Which are made of guess what? fricking brick*
* A other refractary ceramics in much smaller volume for the bottom of the furnace where the bituminous coal burns
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Bridges are simply not built to withstand fires.
you are an idiot and it shows. there doesn't appear to have been a fire on the road section, ergo the rest of your post is irrelevant.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>here doesn't appear to have been a fire on the road section
moron who doesn't know how fire transmits heat to smoke and the surrounding air.
Not to mention the cause of the fire most likely being a missile.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Not to mention the cause of the fire most likely being a missile.
doubt it, probably a small bomb on the train. whatever it was the explosive yield wasnt high
2 years ago
Anonymous
>whatever it was the explosive yield wasnt high
The explosive yield was enough to weaken or damage the span hard enough that the heat from a large fire brought it down.
2 years ago
Anonymous
we have video of people walking right up to the hole where the dropped span is, and (a) they aren't melting and (b) the very earliest video of this shows the spans gone but only one or two rail cars on fire, not the massive fire we see in the more recent photos. so go be a moron someplace else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
prolonged fire would certainly put the bridge out of comission under normal conditions especially so with a bridge constructed by an oligarch friend of putin whose pipeline company had never before constructed a bridge but consider that they will run trains on it anyways as soon as the tracks are clear so no matter the reduced margins of safety the bridge will be used until it collapses
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the tracks are clear so no matter the reduced margins of safety the bridge will be used until it collapses
Assuming the Ukrainians don't drop a second missile
2 years ago
Anonymous
>never constructed a bridge before.
It's just grift and incompetence all the way down, huh?
2 years ago
Anonymous
explosion is the most plausible answer but I will concede that one would expect more marks indicating fragmentation like that which likely ignited the rail car
in addition the way the bridge is damaged is odd, two road sections fall, one remains, then another falls with a small damaged section in the roadway beside it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>would expect more marks indicating fragmentation
a low-brisance explosion would result in less fragmentation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm surprised no one has posted this here yet:
This video shows the truck bomb as it detonates, detonation is at the 3 second mark.
There is something moving under the bridge just before detonation, probably a small boat. However, the boat was under the section one section over from the section that got destroyed by the truck bomb, so it's pretty clear that there wasn't a second bomb in the boat.
My guess is that the fire spread fortuitously to the railcar tankers that were probably filled with gasoline or oil destined for Crimea.
>Flashback to June >XAXAXA UKRAINE NAZIS HIMARS IS USELESS IT ONLY PUNCHED LITTLE HOLES IN BRIDGE >Today >Kerch bridge damaged, some segments annihilated completely
TRY FILLING THIS UP WITH CONCRETE, DICKHEADS
When you're burning,
Feeling crisp,
When fears are in your hearts
I'll fry you all
I'm on your side
Leading you to fail.
Air support can't be found
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
VDV will sink.
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Corpses they will stink.
When you're down and out
When you're in the trench
When shelling falls so hard
I will come for you
I'll take your heart
Oh, when darkness comes
And pain is all around
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Moskva she will sink.
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Bloated sailors stink.
Sail on big blue bird,
Missiles fired.
Their time has come to blow.
All your deaths are on their way.
See them explode.
Oh, if you need a hand
I'm dying right behind,
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Fourth Guards tanks will fry.
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Vatniks they will die.
I'm starting to wonder when the mutinies start. Fragging is already happening and the monke flat out doesn't understand that conscripts will not just sit and starve
Correcting my reply from last thread now that i know that both road decks are dropped:
As it stands, exactly zero light logistical movement (I.E. trucks) and civilian traffic can cross from Ukraine to Russia via Crimea. For the next few days or possibly weeks, all logistics into crimea will have to be done via the rail bridge or overland via the "land bridge" of eastern Ukraine. After a certain amount of time the russians may try to span and bridge the gap, but if their performance in Kherson is to be any indicator this will be unsound, haphazard, and slow.
However, as it stands, the rail bridge is still standing. The rail bridge is also undergoing a major emotional event in the form of thousands of gallons of fuel burning ontop of it. At the very least the rails themselves are ruined. The concrete structure itself? It is being actively compromised by the heat, which is damaging the concrete itself and the steel supports and cables within it. The kerch bridge will not re-enter operation again until the wreck of the train can be removed from the bridge, the tracks can be repaired, and the bridge itself can be assessed. These things will likely take days if not weeks if they happen at all.
For the next several days there will be no traffic through Kerch into Ukraine at all, in or out.
The Kupiansk rail and the Crimean bridge were the supply arteries of the war, vital enough that the russians basically refused t consider alternatives to losing them.
All they have left is the shitty caucasus rail / road routes - which is literally the further you get from the frontlines.
I have no idea what's gonna happen, but this will be ugly. With the highest echelons active of command away from the front there's no one to negotiate mass surrender in kherson and any other potential total collapse scenarios.
Ukrainians will be basically spending the next months killing headless, terrified chickens on each village. Even if the soldiers mutiny and kill their officer it changes jack shit because the officer is just 1 dude with no means to communicate intent to surrender.
it's going to be butchery and a smart russian would spend all day with his hands up and his pants down if he were anywhere on the kherson front about now.
The effect in Crimea can't be understated either. A large number of people in Crimea are legally russian citizens who were moved there to colonize the rock after 2014. These people are now trapped and cut off from their home state, on a peninsula that is being encroached on by the enemy, is in rocket artillery range, and is in no way self-sufficient. The food supply to crimea is now jeopardized and if the ukrainians capture kherson so is the water supply.
>These people are now trapped and cut off from their home state, on a peninsula that is being encroached on by the enemy, is in rocket artillery range, and is in no way self-sufficient. The food supply to crimea is now jeopardized and if the ukrainians capture kherson so is the water supply.
If Izyum , the nuclear plant and other exchanges are proof, both ukrs and rus will take steps to avoid an humanitarian crisis.
They'll probably negotiate a sea convoy to evacuate the region soon
do they even have enough left? Ukraine is literally crawling with equipment for dealing with planes, russia hasn't been able to do aerial bombing - aerial resupply seems even more far fetched
Correcting my reply from last thread now that i know that both road decks are dropped:
As it stands, exactly zero light logistical movement (I.E. trucks) and civilian traffic can cross from Ukraine to Russia via Crimea. For the next few days or possibly weeks, all logistics into crimea will have to be done via the rail bridge or overland via the "land bridge" of eastern Ukraine. After a certain amount of time the russians may try to span and bridge the gap, but if their performance in Kherson is to be any indicator this will be unsound, haphazard, and slow.
However, as it stands, the rail bridge is still standing. The rail bridge is also undergoing a major emotional event in the form of thousands of gallons of fuel burning ontop of it. At the very least the rails themselves are ruined. The concrete structure itself? It is being actively compromised by the heat, which is damaging the concrete itself and the steel supports and cables within it. The kerch bridge will not re-enter operation again until the wreck of the train can be removed from the bridge, the tracks can be repaired, and the bridge itself can be assessed. These things will likely take days if not weeks if they happen at all.
For the next several days there will be no traffic through Kerch into Ukraine at all, in or out.
engineers will have to core sample the interior of the supports to see how fricked the concrete is. From what we have seen that structures FUBAR, fire like that for hours on end will wreck the concrete and possibly the rebar inside as well.
it's a uniquely misleading failure mode, too - the combustion and leakage reduces the weight on that bridge span while it weakens it, meaning if the fire burns out before the bridge collapses, the structure may collapse the moment something actually heavy rolls across the affected spans (and those affected spans will extend surprisingly far because of how thermally conductive steel is)
was thinking this exact point, even if you can fix the cosmetic damage, its probably going to cave the moment any real stress is put on the structure.
your response made me realize something
freeze/thaw cycles in Crimea won't have started yet
they basically have a couple weeks at most before every crack from the thermal expansion of the fire + thermal contraction of the cooldown starts getting wrenched apart by ice
oh your right! Any seal coat on that structure is busted, it will let moisture in and then when they start getting colder weather frost heave will do more damage.
The overland rail bridge runs within MLRS range in places. It *can* be used, but it's risky, and trying to push large volumes through it is just asking for fireworks.
>Concrete has a lower melting point than steel,
full on schizo.
If it gets so got you melt ceramics, everything else will basically explode from the extreme heat distributed unevenly causing havok.
anon, concrete is a mixture of rocks and a cementing binder agent. the "melting" is happening to the binder agent - which turns the "solid concrete" into "scalding hot mud with some gravel in it"
He's moronic in that it doesn't melt, but concrete does experience significant weakening when exposed to high temps, temperatures that gasoline fires can reach. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8780578
prolonged high heat causes concrete to expand as well as causes the concrete to dehydrate and weaken, both of which severely weaken a structure the longer its exposed to high heat. This starts around 200F
basically the only thing that allows the concrete to remain suspended over the bridge supports is the steel
the safety margins don't generally extend to heated steel - that bridge is structurally fricked (you can already see railing/ledges warped by the heat)
So, I was looking through all the equipment Ukraine got and noticed 10 Switchblade 600s. Uh...Ukraine has already made it clear they have dudes in Crimea. What if a few of them used Switchblades to hit the train and the supports all at once? Between the train going boom and the Switchblades hitting the supports, that might be enough to cause them to crumble and this section of the road to collapse into the sea.
the supports didn't crumble. the very first videos of this incident taken just at dawn show the road with spans from both sides in the water, and only one or two rail cars on fire (hard to tell how many with the smoke but it was a small number) but more importnatly the rail cars themselves were relatively undisturbed, they weren't thrown around like they would have been had the rail line been the source of the blast.
Switchblade is pretty much a fat, autistix javelin. Exact same warheads. While they could easily do up a tanker train like that, I'm confident in saying you would need a much more substantial bomb to throw the road spans off like that.
Yeah this was car bomb sized at least. Judging by the intact road sections the explosion was under the bridge. My money is on charges planted by frogmen
I hate to tell you this Anon, but that is a very well composited fake. The attacks happened a bit before dawn, with clear skies, and a train on the bridge. Plus, the base of the ramp up toward the main span is the part that got hit, and they're driving up that ramp in the video.
As I thought the road bridge looks nothing like actual attack-damage, it's too clean of a collapse. What was the train carrying? Was the train specifically attacked and something flew off and smashed the bridge?
Does Russia even have firefighting aircraft? Because that's what they really need to fight this. Fire engines risk toppling the section of the bridge that hasn't collapsed yet.
there are no breaks. bridges aren't made in one unitary piece, they're made in separate spans that sit on pillars. entire spans of this bridge were lifted up and sideways off their supports. unless the ukrainians brought in one hell of a crane while nobody was watching, then there was some other type of upward and sideways pressure that did this. a low-brisance explosion would seem the simplest explanation, but I'm open for any other ideas you might have.
one thing I'm absolutely sure of is that the explosion didn't occur on the rail line, the rail cars going up was a secondary effect.
Ukes might've rigged up some IEDs on the supports beneath the bridge itself and used a drone to monitor the attack to see how effective they were. Suicide drone maybe? Watch the IEDs go off and then hit the train as a target of opportunity? Or perhaps timed so that the IEDs go off when they know there's a train loaded with fuel they can strike to frick the structural integrity by bombing it, setting it on fire and waiting for the vatniks to try and fail to put the flames out.
>We don't need it! >Actually think Russia will be able to fix it quickly >Every analyst with half a brain says this is a big deal and big Russian names will probably be panicking like mad on Telegram
/misc/ probably sucks more Russian dick than the average Russian at this point.
Fricking hell, is there not a single person there that has a background in engineering or construction? The frick is this moronation, yes, we'll pour out some concrete, surely a completely un-reinforced concrete bridge will be able to withstand the loads. Surely this bridge can be poured and cured in a short timespan, then quickly transported and fixed in place. And the fricking moron who thinks that that bridge which just took a massive drop can just be put back into place and used again.
I forgot they had that bout of moronation. Fricking boggles my mind. It's even more mind boggling that the morons on /misc/ think this is in any way equivalent to the cratering on the Kherson bridges.
the decadent westerner fails to understand the cost saving strategy of making infrastructure that merely looks usable
antonovsky bridge is fine, crimean bridge is fine, special military operation is fine
that was from the nova khakovka and antonovsky bridges, and yes, the russians unironically poured some concrete and proceeded to keep using the bridges. they still are using them (there was a photo last week of a truck that some drunk russian drove off the antonovsky), and it's been 2 months now. that won't work for this bridge though, those spans don't just have some 1' holes in them, they're well and truly fricked.
The longer that fire burns the lower the chances that they can fix it, it's already starting to look warped. I cannot even FATHOM why they don't already have a helicopter out there with a bucket to drop water on it
>I cannot even FATHOM why they don't already have a helicopter out there with a bucket to drop water on it
They scuttled it for parts to put in their few remaining combat copter.
Maybe there's a worry dumping a shitload of water on it might cause it to collapse if it's been damaged enough, I don't know I don't build or bomb bridges.
You'd have to send me out on that bridge at gunpoint. I don't feel like driving a firetruck on the badly damaged car span to try to put a fire out on the badly damaged rail span, all the while wondering if there won't just be a sudden second wave missile attack.
OH HOLY SHIT THAT'S A MIXED LOAD ON THAT TRAIN! PLEASE LET THERE BE AMMO IN THOSE GREEN CARS!
green cars look like grain or possibly other pellet materials like fertilizer, those tankers are the interesting ones, probably a few different spicy materials in there.
Engineer probably heard the boom, saw fire, disconnected the locomotive and booked it. That would kick in the air brakes on the following cars, at least in theory. Other option is the Ukes stole a whole fricking train, parked it on the bridge, disconnected the locomotive, rigged up their funny business and then used the locomotive to frick off to safety.
Bravo Ukraine (or whoever)!
I really hoped for that to happen, no better way to say "FRICK OFF" to Russian and show them how fragile their hold on Ukraine is.
I was hoping for a complete cut, but this will do nicely, getting the train on top of it is the cherry above the cake.
>colums did not collapse
it split from it's own weight - maybe a chunk of the cargo fell on the span?.
I assume it's was too wide and thin because it was made by russian oligarch like that anon said.
there was a pick from earlier in the thread from the deck and the right-side bridge deck is holed too, it's impassible. However, the spans and sides of the right deck DID seem to stand for now
Russia says it was a truck bomb.
"A truck was blown up on the Crimean bridge - National Anti-Terrorism Committee.
As a result, seven fuel tanks of the train caught fire. Two car spans of the bridge were partially collapsed."
https://t.me/breakingmash/38823
Hey, remember how the Ukrainians just captured a shitload of artillery shells from the recent Russian retreats? Did they just put em in a truck and blow it on the bridge?
WAIT YOU FRICKERS
At the time of the explosion you can probably see a boat crossing under the bridge. It might just be random waves, but it possibly wasn't the truck
I swear to god it wasn't a truck bomb, it was an autonomous vessel packed to the fricking brim with explosives, possibly more than one. They found one washed up on Crimea like three weeks ago, probably from a test run. Also, Ukraine was given those a while ago and we didn't hear anything about them for a while, so we know they were capable of pulling this off.
Those things aren't going to be big enough to produce an explosion that big. Also considering how inefficient and messy the explosion was, it was almost guaranteed to be just a huge pile of russian ammo.
Don't they transport their munitions by train normally?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Everybody does, rail is the king of cargo efficiency. Only reason anyone uses trucks at all is because the rails don't go everywhere.
2 years ago
Anonymous
So probably wasn't a Russian truck carrying ammo that blew up then
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's a commercial truck with no military markings and not traveling in a convoy. The only way it could possibly be moving weapons on behalf of the Russian government would be if it was moving some sort of black ops warhead to the front for combat testing.
You would think they would have some sort of firefighting vessel tasked to respond to this sort of incident. Perhaps they could use the Moskva's firefighting equipment?
frick i'm really not sure, the explosion looks like it could either be from the truck or from just under and beneath it, in the latter case poor vatnik moron
>If that it is a boat, then what? Did they just load a boat with a bunch of bombs and send it on it's merry way? Actually that sounds kinda sick.
Didnt the burgers provide them with "autonomous coast defence vessels" ?
Maybe they really just loaded it up to the brim with explosives and suicide it?:O
I mean, they just blew up a bunch of apartment buildings in Zaporizhia like two days ago so is Russia really in any position to be crying about terrorism?
Let's say it was a truck or a boat or whatever, whatever it is struck on a very precise place and time just when the train was stopping in that section. Dunno why the train was stopping in the first place though.
>fricking over their own logistics to a vital area in the war >for the sake of mobilizing some more >after they already mobilized and showed they couldn't even do that well
False flag? Try standard order incompetence, the boom looks way too big for standard munitions
I think a truck hauling a load of Russia's war crime-y artillery shells had a "smoke break" and that got way worse since it hit the train too by coincidence
How does Russia spin "a truck forming from mainland russia blew itself up on kerchief bridge" workout tacitly admitting ukraine has operatives within russia, or Russians are willingly collaborating against russia
But seriously, how did they do it? If it was a truck, it would require a frick tonne of explosives, and they had to sneak it in without the driver noticing, assuming it wasn't a suicide mission, which it wasn't, probably.
>Ukrainians have people willing to allahu ackbar a bridge >Russians have 0 morale soldiers that want to flee
how does Putin think he's winning this one. to be a Ukrainian soldier is, according to the entire Ukrainian and international community, to be a hero
to be a Rusky soldier is to be a villain (according to the international society) or a chump (according to Russian and Chinese society).
we have 5 threads already homosexual
Kys.
And you will get 5 more and like it you fricking prick.
>Kherson Kollapse on /k/
>Kerch Kollapse on /k/
Is Moonman running this war?
AP0AK0
Kupiansk collapsed too
>Kill a vatnig tonight
Okay, now we was close
Tried to domesticate ya
But you're an animal
Vatnik it's in your nature
Just let me segregate ya
And eradicate ya
I really frickin' hate ya
I always hated you vatniks
N-A-T-O
Sicker than your average russian killer
MOONMAN CAN'T YOU SEE
COMMIES AND VATNIKS NEED TO HANG FROM TREES
Except Kherson is a moronic spelling, it should be Herson.
My gf and herson
Crimean bridge going down going down going down
Everyone was expecting a missile attack or something obvious. But instead Ukraine (if they did it) chose a method for complete plausible deniability. Smart move.
All on Putin’s Birthday.
Happy Birthday Putollini
Not really. There's no way the train exploding caused the road bridge to collapse.
a big old truck bomb full of ANFO would do the trick though.
>the train exploding
it doesn't appear that the train exploded, it's merely burning. an actual explosion of any magnitude would have thrown most of those rail cars off the bridge.
It was a figure of speech, but the point that this can't have been an accident stands.
Shame it was the vehicle section and not the rail section that collapsed, but progress is progress.
There's currently a train actively burning on the rail section. We may yet see it collapse if it's full of ammo and fuel.
>Ammo (1.1-4)
>Fuel (2)
And this, kids, is why we don't mix HAZMAT classes.
With how piss-poor Russian logistics are you just know there's a car or two full of artillery shells a little further down the train.
>Uh...Boris, should we be putting of 152mm shells with this fuel train
>Why do you b***h Igor train is safe on way to Crimea, do you want waste time prepping second train?
>Will miss of opportunity to get wiener sucked by new conscripts if you do
>What am I thinking Boris, this is best plan!
>Implying any conversations happen at all
>Implying the paperwork isn't just waved along, initialed because "Why would it be incorrect? If it was incorrect, it wouldnt be on the paper!"
Why worry about something that isn't going to happen?
Earlier today I saw where a load of S300 rockets had literally fallen off a truck onto a roadway during shipment through Russia and that's when I knew the 'Rossiya cannot into pallet' meme was not a meme
>There's currently a train actively burning on the rail section. We may yet see it collapse if it's full of ammo and fuel.
It actually does not matter if it collapses or not. Concrete in burning fuel means that no train will run over it again until it is replaced or it will really collapse.
Fire bad you know.
These are Russians we're talking about. They'll keep sending trains over the rail section, pretending nothing is happening as the bridge visibly breaks down until it finally collapses along with the final train it ever bears.
It will be beautiful.
I don't think fuel can melt steel beams.
the rail section is massively deformed and the train is still burning. will be out of action for weeks
The rail section is just cooking. It's fricked.
Seems they left a single span of the bridge up for now. Just enough for people to get the frick out, not enough for supplies to get in.
on the another angle theirs a span missing on the other one as well
nope, there are dropped spans on both sides of the road bridge.
Proofs?
FUUUUUUUCJKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN
hohol cope is hilarious
>hahaha you've only 50% destroyed our only lifeline to the Russian mainland
Truly this is Russia's greatest success in months.
>KERCH BRIDGE HIT
>KERCH BRIDGE HIT BADLY
I'M CUMMING BUCKETS
Musk should have waited a few weeks before chimping out
How absolutely fricking demoralized would the soldiers in Kherson be feeling right now?
They don't know yet.
What’s stopping commanders from telling the Ukrainians they give up and surrendering en masse?
FSB commissars?
>picrel
Can't wait for Kingdom to reach that part of history.
>Kherson front collapses
>Ukraine is knocking on the door of Donbas and took back Lyman
>Kerch Bridge gets fricked up
Russia not having much fun this past week.
Current /chug/ cope is that the train bridge is fine and just needs cleaning. And that the explosion was an accident
Current /chug/ cope is that Ukraine fighting back means WWIII
>/chug/ went from Kyiv in 3 days to "p-please stop winning so hard ukies"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I kneel
this is vatnik concern trolling. 'muh nooks' is the only cope they have left, but unfortunately for those doomers, its not going to happen.
i'm going to drink to celebrate this momentous occasion
haha what a piece of shit
>And that the explosion was an accident
Another smooker?
Wow, smoking must really be dangerous, taking out all those spread around airplane and now bridge...
Bros... are bridges weapons?
It's a logistic lifeline since rivers are a pain to cross if contested. In this case it's worse than a river.
Anything is a weapon if you try hard enough
YES
Russia explicitly constructed it at a height that prevented a number of large cargo ships from passing under it. This limited what kind of ships could enter the Sea of Azov and therefore the efficiency of doing business as coastal industrial cities. Steel isn't exactly a hard to get good; having to use five10,000 ton ships instead of a 50,000 ton ship (or whatever, example numbers) cuts into the margins you can make on manufacture and sales.
The bridge was literally constructed to play frick frick games with Ukraine and as an implement of economic warfare.
yes, you just have to accelerate them and they are practically bullets.
Yes
>Kerch bridge blown the frick out
Ukrainian morale must be through the roof right now.
Anyone have a good map of the Ukrainian railway? How fricked is the Russian resupply by train in Kherson right now?
the only remaining supply rail to the zaporizhia and kherson regions goes through tokmak, which is only about 30km from the front lines.
30km is like: practice shooting with vatniks
So very well within effrctive rage of Ukie artillery.
Well no trains can cross the Dnipro but now their is 1 line coming from Russia to the east bank.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MEIN FUHRER
>inb4 Putin bombs the rest of the bridge because he think the Ukrainians will use it to invade Russia
memes aside, I think we'll see Russia escalate its terror campaign on Ukrainian infrastructure, 100%. They'll probably try and hit every power plant and bridge in the country
SUSPECT IDENTIFIED
I KNEW IT!
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
the smooker answered the call
>SAMOOKER HYDEROVICH STRIKES AGAIN
Can anyone stop him?
how? No way himars or tochka u can do it
I personally think it's car bomb, submersible suicide drone thing, or special forces. I don't know if a car bomb could do enough damage, unless it's Timmy McVeigh nuclear van style. Submersible drone lets you get right up to a support beam and blow it. I don't know how special forces would do it or how they'd get in or out.
From underneath for sure. Special dolphin operation.
if it was ATACMS, I bet uncle sam said to Ukraine, "fine, here's one, show my what you'll do with it and maybe you'll get another." But could ATACMS even do this?
One? Maybe not. Two or more though have a better shot. They can carry 500lb warheads.
i think its likely saboteur work
the point of origin of the explosion is clearly the train, and you wouldnt need a huge amount of explosives to blow up a tanker
>the point of origin of the explosion is clearly the train
I doubt that.
I don’t see how an explosion on the train can bring down the road.
If anything it’s the other way around. The tanker is flammable.
the road sections have just been shaken clean off by the blastwave due to their shitty construction
there is absolutely no explosive damage on the road sections
Definitely not... there are sections of road dislodged much further away from the explosion from the train. Also why does the sections close to the train on the other side still remain in place?
Clearly the whole thing was rigged from under to dislodge the sections of road. They've done this many times on other bridges around ukraine already. Same method.
no. also, the train and railway is a much more likely target because its literally how the russians are bringing in their supplies for kherson
the road sections collapsing will have the nice added bonus of creating mass panic though
What did you mean no? There is no way an explosion from the railway affected the road below. It didn't even dislodge the train from its tracks..
Clearly both areas were hit spontaneously.
I wanna say it’s absolute bullshit that a bridge of this magnitude can just have parts shaken off, but this is Russia we’re talking about.
I just assumed shrapnel from the explosion lit the train on fire, but nothing has made sense in this war.
>>the point of origin of the explosion is clearly the train,
it clearly isn't - an explosion on the rail line that is big enough to throw entire road spans into the water is also big enough to throw those cars hundreds of meters away, and it didn't, the earliest videos showed the road sections dropped and only one or two rail cars burning, more recent ones show a huge rail fire but that's now how it started.. the ukrainians snuck a shitton of explosives underneath the road and the blast ignited a fuel tanker car.
>explosion on the rail line that is big enough to throw entire road spans into the water is also big enough to throw those cars hundreds of meters away
you really trust russian contstruction?
there is no explosive damage to any road section. theyre all completely clean breaks and collapses. feel free to show me an image otherwise
there are no breaks. bridges aren't made in one unitary piece, they're made in separate spans that sit on pillars. entire spans of this bridge were lifted up and sideways off their supports. unless the ukrainians brought in one hell of a crane while nobody was watching, then there was some other type of upward and sideways pressure that did this. a low-brisance explosion would seem the simplest explanation, but I'm open for any other ideas you might have.
one thing I'm absolutely sure of is that the explosion didn't occur on the rail line, the rail cars going up was a secondary effect.
again, there is absolutely no explosive damage to the support pillars or beams. they literally just fell off their support, the sections themselves are also completely unharmed and intact
feel free to post an image supporting your claim
>they literally just fell off their support
so your claim is that they got sleepy and fell over?
yup, thanks to glorious russian engineering lol
where is the explosive damage in pic related?
>ukraine isn't strong! we just suck!
ukraine is strong, but that doesnt mean you have to make up a fantasy story about what happened
we value truth here in the west, not propaganda
lol no. see
HEY YOU BRAINDEAD FRICKING Black person LOOK AT THIS
I WAS FRICKING RIGHT
guys you are overlooking the obvious answer, the bridge sections have to be attached the pillars somehow right? instead of spending money buying the material needed and then paying workers to complete the work, the construction company owner simply kept that money and it became a new Mercedes benz S class or perhaps the down payment on nice new apartment in London.
The spans fell off.
did they trip over their shoelaces?
Is that typical?
Neither of you is an engineer and it shows.
Bridges are simply not built to withstand fires. You don't need to melt a structure to completely frick up it's function beyond all repair
and that bonding agent is... another ceramic. concrete melts apprx at 1500 degree celcius. Approximate the point where liquid steel completely disassembles on a molecular structure level, in fact. You find those temperatures in... industrial furnaces.
Which are made of guess what? fricking brick*
* A other refractary ceramics in much smaller volume for the bottom of the furnace where the bituminous coal burns
>Bridges are simply not built to withstand fires.
you are an idiot and it shows. there doesn't appear to have been a fire on the road section, ergo the rest of your post is irrelevant.
>here doesn't appear to have been a fire on the road section
moron who doesn't know how fire transmits heat to smoke and the surrounding air.
Not to mention the cause of the fire most likely being a missile.
>Not to mention the cause of the fire most likely being a missile.
doubt it, probably a small bomb on the train. whatever it was the explosive yield wasnt high
>whatever it was the explosive yield wasnt high
The explosive yield was enough to weaken or damage the span hard enough that the heat from a large fire brought it down.
we have video of people walking right up to the hole where the dropped span is, and (a) they aren't melting and (b) the very earliest video of this shows the spans gone but only one or two rail cars on fire, not the massive fire we see in the more recent photos. so go be a moron someplace else.
prolonged fire would certainly put the bridge out of comission under normal conditions especially so with a bridge constructed by an oligarch friend of putin whose pipeline company had never before constructed a bridge but consider that they will run trains on it anyways as soon as the tracks are clear so no matter the reduced margins of safety the bridge will be used until it collapses
>the tracks are clear so no matter the reduced margins of safety the bridge will be used until it collapses
Assuming the Ukrainians don't drop a second missile
>never constructed a bridge before.
It's just grift and incompetence all the way down, huh?
explosion is the most plausible answer but I will concede that one would expect more marks indicating fragmentation like that which likely ignited the rail car
in addition the way the bridge is damaged is odd, two road sections fall, one remains, then another falls with a small damaged section in the roadway beside it
>would expect more marks indicating fragmentation
a low-brisance explosion would result in less fragmentation.
I'm surprised no one has posted this here yet:
This video shows the truck bomb as it detonates, detonation is at the 3 second mark.
There is something moving under the bridge just before detonation, probably a small boat. However, the boat was under the section one section over from the section that got destroyed by the truck bomb, so it's pretty clear that there wasn't a second bomb in the boat.
My guess is that the fire spread fortuitously to the railcar tankers that were probably filled with gasoline or oil destined for Crimea.
>Flashback to June
>XAXAXA UKRAINE NAZIS HIMARS IS USELESS IT ONLY PUNCHED LITTLE HOLES IN BRIDGE
>Today
>Kerch bridge damaged, some segments annihilated completely
TRY FILLING THIS UP WITH CONCRETE, DICKHEADS
What's with the fricking sea elephant?
...Tempo?
TEMPO
Yes, Potato-man.
Tempo.
Check 'em.
Anon i...kneel
Congatulations
exquisite
witnessed
Now I can't sleep. This will be an exciting weekend.
TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO POLANDBRO
there is literally nothing cool about pooland
GOYDAAAAA!!!!!!!!
I want quesitos
Goy? Da!
love this picture. Reminds me of Independence Day as the alien ship burns through the atmosphere
holy shit, you're right.
?t=124
thank you anon, glad the edit is good.
Nice
Where is firefighting?
On the front line retreating
probably not safe enough to approach, given the structural damage
BAKER NEEDED
>BAKER NEEDED
BAKER NEEDED
>BAKER NEEDED
BAKER NEEDED
>BAKER NEEDED
BAKER NEEDED
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BAKER NEEDED
>BAKER NEEDED
This one was an emergency bake and I’m going to bed. Cheers lads, hopefully I’ll wake up to more collapsed sections.
Night mate. May dreams of burning bridge keep you warm and cozy.
Webms anyone?
Zelensky still doesn't have a foreskin
post nose
Speaking of noses:
Spastic is doing a Live happening.
is the rail bridge still burning? and more importantly, has anyone made a sam hyde meme yet?
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Well, I just won my bets on Betmoose, so there's that!
Can't wait to see the what the vatBlack person cope will be for this one. I'm already seeing that "it was an accident!!!"
holy shit
Fake and gay
Fake
The Russian SMOOKER cannot be stopped
go to 6 seconds, and slowly drag it frame by frame, you see it fade back to the normal bridge footage. goofy moron editing here
I wrote this a couple of months ago. Maybe someone better at lyrics can spice it up a bit?
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/54722512/#q54729682
When you're burning,
Feeling crisp,
When fears are in your hearts
I'll fry you all
I'm on your side
Leading you to fail.
Air support can't be found
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
VDV will sink.
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Corpses they will stink.
When you're down and out
When you're in the trench
When shelling falls so hard
I will come for you
I'll take your heart
Oh, when darkness comes
And pain is all around
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Moskva she will sink.
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Bloated sailors stink.
Sail on big blue bird,
Missiles fired.
Their time has come to blow.
All your deaths are on their way.
See them explode.
Oh, if you need a hand
I'm dying right behind,
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Fourth Guards tanks will fry.
Like our bridge under troubled waters,
Vatniks they will die.
KERCH STRAIT BRIDGE IS FALLING DOWN
FALLING DOWN
FALLING DOWN
KERCH STRAIT BRIDGE IS FALLING DOWN
MY FAIR LADY
Meaning the Kherson and Zaporozinha's supply situation just went FUBAR.
This is the closest you get to defining the war in a single action.
Expect lots of downed supply helicopters in the coming weeks
SEND VDV
I'm starting to wonder when the mutinies start. Fragging is already happening and the monke flat out doesn't understand that conscripts will not just sit and starve
The Kupiansk rail and the Crimean bridge were the supply arteries of the war, vital enough that the russians basically refused t consider alternatives to losing them.
All they have left is the shitty caucasus rail / road routes - which is literally the further you get from the frontlines.
I have no idea what's gonna happen, but this will be ugly. With the highest echelons active of command away from the front there's no one to negotiate mass surrender in kherson and any other potential total collapse scenarios.
Ukrainians will be basically spending the next months killing headless, terrified chickens on each village. Even if the soldiers mutiny and kill their officer it changes jack shit because the officer is just 1 dude with no means to communicate intent to surrender.
it's going to be butchery and a smart russian would spend all day with his hands up and his pants down if he were anywhere on the kherson front about now.
The effect in Crimea can't be understated either. A large number of people in Crimea are legally russian citizens who were moved there to colonize the rock after 2014. These people are now trapped and cut off from their home state, on a peninsula that is being encroached on by the enemy, is in rocket artillery range, and is in no way self-sufficient. The food supply to crimea is now jeopardized and if the ukrainians capture kherson so is the water supply.
Well at least they still have ferries.
For now.
>These people are now trapped and cut off from their home state, on a peninsula that is being encroached on by the enemy, is in rocket artillery range, and is in no way self-sufficient. The food supply to crimea is now jeopardized and if the ukrainians capture kherson so is the water supply.
If Izyum , the nuclear plant and other exchanges are proof, both ukrs and rus will take steps to avoid an humanitarian crisis.
They'll probably negotiate a sea convoy to evacuate the region soon
do they even have enough left? Ukraine is literally crawling with equipment for dealing with planes, russia hasn't been able to do aerial bombing - aerial resupply seems even more far fetched
It'll be something like the doomed Azovstal supply helicopter deliveries from months back, can't wait.
Can we get a TEMPO check?
FULL SCHWARZKOPF
We've gone full Stormin' Norman here, no brakes
We have reached John Boyd levels of many ever warfare.
Correcting my reply from last thread now that i know that both road decks are dropped:
As it stands, exactly zero light logistical movement (I.E. trucks) and civilian traffic can cross from Ukraine to Russia via Crimea. For the next few days or possibly weeks, all logistics into crimea will have to be done via the rail bridge or overland via the "land bridge" of eastern Ukraine. After a certain amount of time the russians may try to span and bridge the gap, but if their performance in Kherson is to be any indicator this will be unsound, haphazard, and slow.
However, as it stands, the rail bridge is still standing. The rail bridge is also undergoing a major emotional event in the form of thousands of gallons of fuel burning ontop of it. At the very least the rails themselves are ruined. The concrete structure itself? It is being actively compromised by the heat, which is damaging the concrete itself and the steel supports and cables within it. The kerch bridge will not re-enter operation again until the wreck of the train can be removed from the bridge, the tracks can be repaired, and the bridge itself can be assessed. These things will likely take days if not weeks if they happen at all.
For the next several days there will be no traffic through Kerch into Ukraine at all, in or out.
>major emotional event
I never thought I'd have so much in common with a bridge.
engineers will have to core sample the interior of the supports to see how fricked the concrete is. From what we have seen that structures FUBAR, fire like that for hours on end will wreck the concrete and possibly the rebar inside as well.
it's a uniquely misleading failure mode, too - the combustion and leakage reduces the weight on that bridge span while it weakens it, meaning if the fire burns out before the bridge collapses, the structure may collapse the moment something actually heavy rolls across the affected spans (and those affected spans will extend surprisingly far because of how thermally conductive steel is)
was thinking this exact point, even if you can fix the cosmetic damage, its probably going to cave the moment any real stress is put on the structure.
your response made me realize something
freeze/thaw cycles in Crimea won't have started yet
they basically have a couple weeks at most before every crack from the thermal expansion of the fire + thermal contraction of the cooldown starts getting wrenched apart by ice
and this is an over-water bridge
oh your right! Any seal coat on that structure is busted, it will let moisture in and then when they start getting colder weather frost heave will do more damage.
The overland rail bridge runs within MLRS range in places. It *can* be used, but it's risky, and trying to push large volumes through it is just asking for fireworks.
Clearly it WAS a truck bomb.
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1578632518307545089
So the raging conflagration will weaken steel, but will it do anything to the concrete?
Concrete has a lower melting point than steel, my dude.
If it's shitty concrete it'll have air bubbles too, which expand when heated.
Why didn't they build the bridge under the water?
The fools.
>Concrete has a lower melting point than steel,
full on schizo.
If it gets so got you melt ceramics, everything else will basically explode from the extreme heat distributed unevenly causing havok.
see: nuclear reactor meltdowns.
What?
Ceramics are not concrete.
anon, concrete is a mixture of rocks and a cementing binder agent. the "melting" is happening to the binder agent - which turns the "solid concrete" into "scalding hot mud with some gravel in it"
you can't build a bridge with muddy gravel
He's moronic in that it doesn't melt, but concrete does experience significant weakening when exposed to high temps, temperatures that gasoline fires can reach. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8780578
prolonged high heat causes concrete to expand as well as causes the concrete to dehydrate and weaken, both of which severely weaken a structure the longer its exposed to high heat. This starts around 200F
Rebar will deform, tracks will melt, sleepers will burn or melt.
basically the only thing that allows the concrete to remain suspended over the bridge supports is the steel
the safety margins don't generally extend to heated steel - that bridge is structurally fricked (you can already see railing/ledges warped by the heat)
So, I was looking through all the equipment Ukraine got and noticed 10 Switchblade 600s. Uh...Ukraine has already made it clear they have dudes in Crimea. What if a few of them used Switchblades to hit the train and the supports all at once? Between the train going boom and the Switchblades hitting the supports, that might be enough to cause them to crumble and this section of the road to collapse into the sea.
the supports didn't crumble. the very first videos of this incident taken just at dawn show the road with spans from both sides in the water, and only one or two rail cars on fire (hard to tell how many with the smoke but it was a small number) but more importnatly the rail cars themselves were relatively undisturbed, they weren't thrown around like they would have been had the rail line been the source of the blast.
the road makes no sense as a target, and there is no blast damage there. the railway line is how the russians are supplying themselves
>dropped spans on both sides of the road
>no blast damage
Switchblade is pretty much a fat, autistix javelin. Exact same warheads. While they could easily do up a tanker train like that, I'm confident in saying you would need a much more substantial bomb to throw the road spans off like that.
Yeah this was car bomb sized at least. Judging by the intact road sections the explosion was under the bridge. My money is on charges planted by frogmen
Special dolphins made in Ukrainian labs.
Crimean Bridge is falling down,
Falling down, falling down.
Crimean Bridge is falling down,
My fair lady,
>checks what else is new
>see this
Are they trying to completely cut off kherson and crimea?
seems like a general supply hit - that's one of the caucasus veins.
Russians are unironically running out of supply routes.
oh shit good catch, makes a lot of sense
I think I got the exact moment of the explosion.
From here: https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/1578622209219624960
its a fake video you moron. stop posting this shit
Just stop
That video's fake, the time of day doesn't match the initial impact images
I hate to tell you this Anon, but that is a very well composited fake. The attacks happened a bit before dawn, with clear skies, and a train on the bridge. Plus, the base of the ramp up toward the main span is the part that got hit, and they're driving up that ramp in the video.
Well done you got the exact moment of a fake explosion in a months old cgi video
it's a fake video you idiot. the incident occurred just before dawn.
So how will the supreme monke react to this new situation?
Threaten more NOOKS or say the U.S. did it.
Have a slice of cake, it's his birthday after all.
By throwing his shit at the wall.
As I thought the road bridge looks nothing like actual attack-damage, it's too clean of a collapse. What was the train carrying? Was the train specifically attacked and something flew off and smashed the bridge?
HATO wouldn't dare to send a stealth bomb-ACK!
>STILL no firefighters on the bridge
>fuel tankers still merrily burning
Russia, what the FRICK are you doing???
The only way they're getting any kind of fire fighting equipment out there is on boats.
Does Russia even have firefighting aircraft? Because that's what they really need to fight this. Fire engines risk toppling the section of the bridge that hasn't collapsed yet.
Ukes might've rigged up some IEDs on the supports beneath the bridge itself and used a drone to monitor the attack to see how effective they were. Suicide drone maybe? Watch the IEDs go off and then hit the train as a target of opportunity? Or perhaps timed so that the IEDs go off when they know there's a train loaded with fuel they can strike to frick the structural integrity by bombing it, setting it on fire and waiting for the vatniks to try and fail to put the flames out.
But it can weaken structural integrity.
Zelensky is a israelite without foreskin
he has my condolences, but he's doing the best with what he has
And you are stilling losing to him
relevance?
Yeah, that's going to stop that bridge from burning. You keep at it, keep puffing until the fire goes out.
Why are you thinking about another man's penis?
Brace yourself, boys, we're seeing levels of seethe that is rivalling the Kyiv Rout and Moskva Transitioning
They're trying, they're really trying right now.
>w-we dont need the bridge
no greater proof that /misc/troons have no business conversing on military topics
>We don't need it!
>Actually think Russia will be able to fix it quickly
>Every analyst with half a brain says this is a big deal and big Russian names will probably be panicking like mad on Telegram
/misc/ probably sucks more Russian dick than the average Russian at this point.
The irony is that the ultranationalist Russian bloggers are actually much more honest about the situation than the LARPing Western /chug/sisters.
>when is russia going to unleash all their might?
>am I missing something?
Who's going to tell him?
Fricking hell, is there not a single person there that has a background in engineering or construction? The frick is this moronation, yes, we'll pour out some concrete, surely a completely un-reinforced concrete bridge will be able to withstand the loads. Surely this bridge can be poured and cured in a short timespan, then quickly transported and fixed in place. And the fricking moron who thinks that that bridge which just took a massive drop can just be put back into place and used again.
It's residual thinking from when the Kherson bridges accidentally had some holes in them and they actually tried filling them with concrete.
I forgot they had that bout of moronation. Fricking boggles my mind. It's even more mind boggling that the morons on /misc/ think this is in any way equivalent to the cratering on the Kherson bridges.
Alot of work to only have it mysteriously catch fire again the next day.
the decadent westerner fails to understand the cost saving strategy of making infrastructure that merely looks usable
antonovsky bridge is fine, crimean bridge is fine, special military operation is fine
Cyka, rebar is fine!
that was from the nova khakovka and antonovsky bridges, and yes, the russians unironically poured some concrete and proceeded to keep using the bridges. they still are using them (there was a photo last week of a truck that some drunk russian drove off the antonovsky), and it's been 2 months now. that won't work for this bridge though, those spans don't just have some 1' holes in them, they're well and truly fricked.
Feels like old /sg/ was 300% smarter than these brainlets
When this is all over, I would love to see a compilation of the seething and utter denial shown by these posters for every major event
Is not having a foreskin considered being castrated? It's just a tiny step from being a troony
Not sure 300k bodies is enough to bridge that gap, yeesh.
all these shots coming out are so fricking beautiful
>HERE’S HOW RUSSIA CAN STILL WIN
>Yes, the Kerch straight bridge has collapsed: but here's why that's a good thing.
It didn't blow up, workers have just detoured the outgoing traffic from Crimea and to moskva instead.
Bridge still burning
Holy shit man. That might be one of the most iconic photos of this war.
the longer that burns the worse things get for fixing that rail bridge.
Oof, from this angle you can see the right lanes are looking a bit bendy. That bridge is fricked six ways to Sunday.
please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse please collapse
The longer that fire burns the lower the chances that they can fix it, it's already starting to look warped. I cannot even FATHOM why they don't already have a helicopter out there with a bucket to drop water on it
from the looks of it theyve parked some engines on bridge and have one ladder up as seen in
incredible firefighting response kek
>I cannot even FATHOM why they don't already have a helicopter out there with a bucket to drop water on it
They scuttled it for parts to put in their few remaining combat copter.
THE BRIDGE, THE BRIDGE, THE BRIDGE IS ON FIRE. WE DON’T NEED NO WATER LET THAT MOTHERFRICKER BURN. BURN MOTHERFRICKER, BURN.
Lovely composition on the photo.
I like how there's no attempt to extinguish the flame there.
The only way they're getting anything out there is by boat or aircraft.
I mean what the frick are they going to do? It's a fuel fire, so even if they have fire mains on the bridge that still work it's useless.
Drop CO2 canisters from drones?
Wouldn't the open space just make the C02 dissipate. Foam water maybe instead?
its literally a bridge get a helicopter to bucket water up from 10 meters underneath and drop it on top repeatedly
Maybe there's a worry dumping a shitload of water on it might cause it to collapse if it's been damaged enough, I don't know I don't build or bomb bridges.
You'd have to send me out on that bridge at gunpoint. I don't feel like driving a firetruck on the badly damaged car span to try to put a fire out on the badly damaged rail span, all the while wondering if there won't just be a sudden second wave missile attack.
Pretty sure the fire was smaller half an hour ago.
Oh well they will let the fire burn through and hope everything still works. (they won't)
Tell the flames can ignite the other tanks.
greetings from PrepHole
the heat from the train cooks the bridge
Is it odd the train stopped here? I feel like it's massive momentum would carry it a least a bit further down the tracks.
Wait, where's the locomotive?
noped the frick out
OH HOLY SHIT THAT'S A MIXED LOAD ON THAT TRAIN! PLEASE LET THERE BE AMMO IN THOSE GREEN CARS!
Those are hopper cars, you wouldn't load ammo into them.
(You) wouldn't. I have seen enough russian "logistics" in this war to believe they could.
How far will Ukrainian black magic go?!
Boy, would be a real shame if those green cars were coal cars.
green cars look like grain or possibly other pellet materials like fertilizer, those tankers are the interesting ones, probably a few different spicy materials in there.
>fertilizer
I WANT TO BELIEVE
>fertilizer
Please let this whole thing go full Beirut.
Engineer probably heard the boom, saw fire, disconnected the locomotive and booked it. That would kick in the air brakes on the following cars, at least in theory. Other option is the Ukes stole a whole fricking train, parked it on the bridge, disconnected the locomotive, rigged up their funny business and then used the locomotive to frick off to safety.
Please be coal please be coal full of coal dust please be coal
Isn't the place where the road starts to descent a structural weak point? This feels rather odd.
So this means the Melitopol offensive is coming any day now, right?
unironically, all supplies to Kherson run through Tokmak now
Bravo Ukraine (or whoever)!
I really hoped for that to happen, no better way to say "FRICK OFF" to Russian and show them how fragile their hold on Ukraine is.
I was hoping for a complete cut, but this will do nicely, getting the train on top of it is the cherry above the cake.
The Russians are saying it was a car bomb now
God fricking damnit, the Irish did this.
COME OUT YE VAT AND TANS
The spans collapsed...it's all ogre bros...
Tell me this is real and you're not bullshitting me. Please.
that's just the same image of the collapsed road span from an hour ago, we're still waiting for the rail bridge to collapse
It's 4 realsies but no concrete idea on cause yet
Thats just
from the other side not the rail
now moskova can use bridge to travel and support next vdv landings
The fire rises
The other side of the road bridge might not have completely collapsed but it is certainly not in passable shape either without complete repairs.
>colums did not collapse
it split from it's own weight - maybe a chunk of the cargo fell on the span?.
I assume it's was too wide and thin because it was made by russian oligarch like that anon said.
there was a pick from earlier in the thread from the deck and the right-side bridge deck is holed too, it's impassible. However, the spans and sides of the right deck DID seem to stand for now
>ut it is certainly not in passable shape either without complete repairs.
I wish they still try to use it and we get more picture when it crumble.
There is no panic at the Kerch strait bridge.
MOMENT OF EXPLOSION
HOLY SHIT! THATS AN ENTIRE SEMI TRUCK!
DID RUSSIA JUST LOSE THE CROWN israeliteEL OF ITS INFRASTRUCTURE TO A GODAMNED TRUCK BOMB
Literal HATO ISIS tactics.
Russia went in expecting nothing more than an insurgency? They got their fricking insurgency.
That actually looks plausible. Holy frick.
huh, I guess a car bomb really could frick it up that bad
That looks like the explosion was coming from the truck there.
Holy shit it was an actual fricking car bomb! INSHA'ALLAH CHECHNYA SHALL RISE AGAIN! I knew those crazy bastards weren't completely cucked.
That's not even close to being the same bridge. Frick off with this.
Now THIS is cope
I was wrong, the other video they posted is clearer proof
Kerch bridge returned to port under its own power.
is it that truck?
looks... almost like an ammo explosion
would that truck be headed towards or away from Crimea?
Based on the relative position of the bridges, into Crimea.
Russia says it was a truck bomb.
"A truck was blown up on the Crimean bridge - National Anti-Terrorism Committee.
As a result, seven fuel tanks of the train caught fire. Two car spans of the bridge were partially collapsed."
https://t.me/breakingmash/38823
Remote control or did the absolute maddest lad that ever lived give his life for this?
I think remote would've raised one too many eyebrows.
Probably someone about to receive some posthumous honors.
Incorrect, all eyebrows have been raised for months.
Someone add Allahu akbar.
What the frick was that? HE/thermite composite?
what a mad man
SOMEONE STOP THIS MAN, HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWSY WITH IT
Timothy McVeigh confirmed for joining Ukraine SOF.
Plot twist that truck was carrying ammo and the driver was smoking
I can't believe they would get someone willing to an hero like that. Could this be an accidental explosion, like mistoraged ammunition ?
resupply semi having an unfortunate smooking incident?
and it accidentally takes the rail bridge out of commission too?
that's bullshit.
i believe it
Chechens exist, you know. Some of them are more than happy to martyr themselves if it means Russia gets closer to collapse.
Ok, frick the Irish, the bridge just got McVeighed
Is this the fabled isis-american tactics I've been hearing about?
so, from the looks of things the car was heading TO Crimea from Russia. What does this imply?
The greatest threat to Russia is other Russians.
Hey, remember how the Ukrainians just captured a shitload of artillery shells from the recent Russian retreats? Did they just put em in a truck and blow it on the bridge?
It's coming from Russia towards Crimea so unless they went the long way around no
>Windows XP
What's the Irish component of the foreign legion called again? I need to know who to mail this whiskey
MY TRUCK IS LOADED
wait... is that a ukrainian nazi-leninist trident I see!??!?!?!?
INSHALLAH BROTHERS
Why do you assume it was a truck bomb?
Might have just been hit when it was passing.
Black person did you not see what almost certainly was bits of thermite scattering everywhere?
I have seen some sparks but I'm not going to assume it's thermite or even if it was that it thermite that it came from the truck.
WAIT YOU FRICKERS
At the time of the explosion you can probably see a boat crossing under the bridge. It might just be random waves, but it possibly wasn't the truck
I swear to god it wasn't a truck bomb, it was an autonomous vessel packed to the fricking brim with explosives, possibly more than one. They found one washed up on Crimea like three weeks ago, probably from a test run. Also, Ukraine was given those a while ago and we didn't hear anything about them for a while, so we know they were capable of pulling this off.
>They found one washed up on Crimea like three weeks ago, probably from a test run.
exactly
How big are these things? Was a massive fricking explosion.
Those things aren't going to be big enough to produce an explosion that big. Also considering how inefficient and messy the explosion was, it was almost guaranteed to be just a huge pile of russian ammo.
Don't they transport their munitions by train normally?
Everybody does, rail is the king of cargo efficiency. Only reason anyone uses trucks at all is because the rails don't go everywhere.
So probably wasn't a Russian truck carrying ammo that blew up then
It's a commercial truck with no military markings and not traveling in a convoy. The only way it could possibly be moving weapons on behalf of the Russian government would be if it was moving some sort of black ops warhead to the front for combat testing.
A blast from below wouldnt leave such a big scorch mark on the top of the bridge segments though.
It would if the debris from the upwards explosion hit the fuel tanks on the train above and the flames burst outwards from above.
the train full of fuel next to it would
>They found one washed up on Crimea like three weeks ago,
Any of you lads got the source?
You would think they would have some sort of firefighting vessel tasked to respond to this sort of incident. Perhaps they could use the Moskva's firefighting equipment?
Looks like some more rotten luck for the russian side. They can't seem to catch a break
this thread reads like a twitter thread
>n-no, stop making fun of my logistics system getting blown up
>instant butthurt because he felt outed
it really is a twitter thread
You are a twit but that's about the extent of it
what a fricking terrible comeback anon
I don't particularly care what you think, save it for your blog (or twitter apparently)
Where are the weapons? I do not see any weapons in this thread.
a truck bomb is a weapon
It seems to be a simple fuel tank explosion from a train. Perhaps this should be posted in /n/?
VBIEDs are weapons
seethe more, bucko. we're past the bump limit
C'MON ANON RIP THE OTHER ONE HE POSTED ITS WAY BETTER
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1578632558153437184?
New footage just dropped
ALLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAHHHHHHH
yep thats a big fricking truck bomb
That's not a truck bomb.
You may be right. It looks like the explosion was in front of the truck. Either way, that truck driver is ded.
>That's not a truck bomb.
I agree.
I am more and more convinced that it was a missile. BIG missile.
frick i'm really not sure, the explosion looks like it could either be from the truck or from just under and beneath it, in the latter case poor vatnik moron
24 seconds on this video
under the bridge
you see water breaking just before the explosion
The size of that fricking explosion. I have no words.
Holy shit WHAT did they put in that truck
Doesn't look like it came from a truck? More like from the right?
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1578633221041844225
oh frick
second angle
It looks like it’s coming from higher up, above the bridge. The train section is higher. Above.
This doesn't look like a truck bomb to me, that explosion came from under the bridge, not over it.
If this explosion came from under the bridge, why is the deflagration brightest on the road surface?
yeah, honestly its kind of hard to tell exactly where the explosion came from
the bridge doesnt bulge upwards and split either
Better quality
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1578632518307545089
>that car driving by
oof
This clearly really was an accident. Russia was transporting unstable outdated explosives.
Even if the spans on the right haven't fell, they will still need to be removed to repair that pillar.
Look at the detonation footage. That span is absolutely fricked. It's weaker than tissue paper.
dude, it's over
let him go
Damn, big crack on the left.
Come on, it's fine, just drive over it.
> (X) Doubt
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Aftermath video shows that it's just a torn railing
I wonder if they'll try to drive over damaged road anyways, wouldn't surprise me.
>tfw Ireland heard Russia threatening The English and bombed their bridge
The only people who get to kill the English are the Irish!
wait that does look like a boat, what the frick?
the explosion was on the next span over though, not that one.
If that it is a boat, then what? Did they just load a boat with a bunch of bombs and send it on it's merry way? Actually that sounds kinda sick.
>If that it is a boat, then what? Did they just load a boat with a bunch of bombs and send it on it's merry way? Actually that sounds kinda sick.
Didnt the burgers provide them with "autonomous coast defence vessels" ?
Maybe they really just loaded it up to the brim with explosives and suicide it?:O
more footage found
?t=20
REPOSTING BECAUSE IM A moron
THIS WAS A BOAT NOT A TRUCK
that is a wave
Thats a wave Zach
that's not the span that went boom though...
ISIS approves
>Number one, that's terror. Number two, that's terror.
>Now that we think about it, Moskva WAS sunk by Hobols after all. That was a terrorist attack too!
>THERE ARE CIVILIAN CASUALTIES
>THAT MEANS IT'S A TERRORIST ATTACK
>all the ukrop civilians killed by russian terror bombings don't count tho
wtf i love isis now
I mean, they just blew up a bunch of apartment buildings in Zaporizhia like two days ago so is Russia really in any position to be crying about terrorism?
Eh its a strategic target, Im not sure you could call that a terrorist attack considering they hit it early and with little traffic.
>bomb and kill thousands of ukie civilians over 7 months
>AHHHH NOOOO OUR BRIDGE WTF TERRORISTS!
God I hate Russians
Where is the evidence proving that it was ukraine?
The russian cries out in pain etc etc
Bros.
Was this truck from FROM mainland russia?
This literal who seems to think so
https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1578636117120647168
Yes it was, pay attention to the bridge layout and look at a map.
You blew up your own bridge Putin!
Here's a webm since nobody has thrown one up yet
Let's say it was a truck or a boat or whatever, whatever it is struck on a very precise place and time just when the train was stopping in that section. Dunno why the train was stopping in the first place though.
Moreover if it was a truck it was coming FROM RUSSIA and if it was a boat it was coming from the Sea of Azov which Russia controls.
im starting to think this may unironically be a russian false flag for casus belli...
oh please this is just schizo talk just like the pipelines
>fricking over their own logistics to a vital area in the war
>for the sake of mobilizing some more
>after they already mobilized and showed they couldn't even do that well
>Want to start a fight with someone
>shot yourself in the foot so people get on your side
Its a bold strategy Cotton...
False flag? Try standard order incompetence, the boom looks way too big for standard munitions
I think a truck hauling a load of Russia's war crime-y artillery shells had a "smoke break" and that got way worse since it hit the train too by coincidence
Another Russian 'falseflag' targeting their own strategic infrastructure?
Nah, if it were a Russian false flag, it wouldn't have targeted something this critical to their already-strained logistics.
How does Russia spin "a truck forming from mainland russia blew itself up on kerchief bridge" workout tacitly admitting ukraine has operatives within russia, or Russians are willingly collaborating against russia
I will bake
Uhhh, quick give me a PANIK status?
No panic, police on scene, traffic being diverted to the Moskva.
Definitely something blew it up from below.
You are aware what bridge destruction means, right?
yes
either way crimea is fricked
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1578638416194912256
UPDATE
fire burned itself out
bridge fricked
>the rail bridge too
yep that rail bridge is right fricked, at least a few spans are going to need to be pulled.
rail section is beyond fricked, at least 100m section of the bridge has to be replaced before you even think about placing rails on it again
That rail section is proper cooked, that whole span is gonna need to be replaced. Also, there's two huge holes in that road
Why is there no police, no firefighters? This looks like civilians walking around freely
Assuming the attack did come by boat, wouldn't it have made more sense to directly target the rail bridge instead?
more kino
https://twitter.com/IkerAuros/status/1578638926474276864
So, 2 bombs on pillars and blew up when the train with gasoline was near. Brilliant diversion
But seriously, how did they do it? If it was a truck, it would require a frick tonne of explosives, and they had to sneak it in without the driver noticing, assuming it wasn't a suicide mission, which it wasn't, probably.
>assuming it wasn't a suicide mission
Why?
>Ukrainians have people willing to allahu ackbar a bridge
>Russians have 0 morale soldiers that want to flee
how does Putin think he's winning this one. to be a Ukrainian soldier is, according to the entire Ukrainian and international community, to be a hero
to be a Rusky soldier is to be a villain (according to the international society) or a chump (according to Russian and Chinese society).
The amount of particularized burning metal almost makes it look like it used thermite or some sort of anfo metal binary.