Crimea and the naval situation

So let's assume the Ukrainians retake the rest of Zaporizhia and Kherson and reach the border of Crimea. What can the Ukrainians do to Russian naval assets and the Kerch bridge? What will the Russian navy do to defend itself? Enlighten me.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't the Ukrainians already bullied the Russian navy out of the Black Sea?
    With GLSDB the Kerch bridge would be just barely in range, if they put it right on that one peninsular, which might be a bit too exposed.
    Aside from that a Crimea without the land bridge and damaged or destroyed bridge at Kerch would be an absolute nightmare to supply for Russia

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Did you read how they fired at Snek island at max range of Bogdana and Caesar? Mofos floated the howitzers back and forth each day, to basically a floodplain on the coast. I really wouldn't put it past them, Ukies are crazy bastards.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Lel, first time I'm hearing about it, but in all honesty I can't say I'm surprised

        Can GLSDB even destroy a well reinforced concrete bridge like Kerch? I’m pretty sure it’d need demolition charges and thermite.

        Good question, I remember that was a problem the Antoniwsky bridge, Totchka-U wasn't accurate enough and everything else they had just put a bunch of holes in the bridge until it was eventually unusable.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Can GLSDB even destroy a well reinforced concrete bridge like Kerch? I’m pretty sure it’d need demolition charges and thermite.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        well you can always fire multiple Missiles

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No need to remove large portions of the bridge completely, just blow some holes into the road pavement and tracks for short periods of time consecutively, to render it practically unusuable.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Warhead
        >SDB I (GBU-39/B) penetrating blast fragmentation, penetrating steel nosecone[7]
        >Laser SDB (GBU-39B/B) penetrating blast fragmentation, w/o steel nosecone[7]

        Warhead weight
        >All SDB I variants 206 lb (93 kg) total[7][8]
        >SDB I (GBU-39/B) 36 lb (16 kg) AFX 757 enhanced blast insensitive explosive, penetrating steel case and nosecone
        >Laser SDB (GBU-39B/B) 36 lb (16 kg) AFX 757 enhanced blast insensitive explosive, penetrating steel case

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it won't be that easy given the distance
        but it'll happen eventually
        also consider the marine drones

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        A dji drone with a well placed grenade drop on a munitions train would destroy the bridge.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      there's also vilkha-m, they recentrly stepped up their use
      cep is shit though (10-30m), but kerch bridge is a large mofo

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >What can the Ukrainians do to Russian naval assets
    Same thing Germany did when their Fleet was permanently in RAF and USAF bomber range
    Accept its fricking doom

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I must have missed the part where Germany was able to make the Royal Navy hide in London despite the fact that the Kriegsmarine was nonexistant.
      Or am I misreading you post?

      If Ukraine reaches the sea of Azov the bridge wil be destroyed (Russia won't be able to stop every single attack)
      The problem is Ukraine won't reach the sea of Azov ever again.

      >The problem is Ukraine won't reach the sea of Azov ever again.
      What makes you so sure?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not so sure but I have little confidence in Ukraine's offensive capabilities against fortified positions given what I've seen and their lack of a modern airforce.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Accurate long range artillery fills the role of close air support.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes we can hOOpe, I remain skeptical.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Me too. I'm waiting to see how the next offensive goes before getting too exited about the thought of Ukraine retaking Crimea

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I mean it shouldn't be that hard, all they really have to do is take Melitopol and the front will start to unravel, right?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much. Russia has no capacity to keep western flank supplied from Crimea alone. Mariupol might be able to hold a while if Russia wants, but honestly what would be the point in holding that wrecked place if Melitopol was lost?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but Uboats were scary

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Russian Fleet already in the Black sea is all there is going to be. Turkey stops anymore warships from entering so what they have their is all they are getting and have had for the past year. And seeing as the Moskva was turned into a submarine just do more of that once you have gotten to the coastline.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If Ukraine reaches the sea of Azov the bridge wil be destroyed (Russia won't be able to stop every single attack)
    The problem is Ukraine won't reach the sea of Azov ever again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >The problem is Ukraine won't reach the sea of Azov ever again.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Kherson isn't on the sea of Azov moron.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Point still stands, moron.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You made 0 points

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              the point is what morons like you were saying what ukr wont reach kherson ever again 6 months ago, rus govnt was thinking the same in case you cant read russian on that billboard

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                how does that apply to the sea of Azov? can you formulate a coherent argument or is spitting out disconnected sentences the best of your argumentative abilities?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Are you so fricking moronic you can't put 2 and 2 together?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                do it for me, because the 2 and 2 only exists in your head

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Back to your shithole, thirdie.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                let me try to formulate your "argument" for you my mentally challenged friend
                ukraine retook kherson (let's not worry about how or why, the analysis of causes is hard after all, and acontinue living in this magical world where things just happens) therefore ukraine will reach the sea of azov (again lets overlook all those pesky details as to how one would imply the others, it would just happen as if by magic)
                it's a dumbass "argument" that betrays your lack of intelligence

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia says Kherson is with Russia forever
                >Ukraine retakes Kherson
                >moron says Ukraine will never reach the Azov Sea
                You are here
                >Ukraine reaches the Azov Sea

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                i can't cure terminal brainletism, go on your way you wonderful moron

                yes yes of course it all happened because of zrada and because russians were too civil and because generals were incompetent and corrupt and if only batyushka putin knew everything would be fine and not so bad.

                can you please quote where you read any of that (let alone by me) my intellectually inferior interlocutor

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Merely pretending is still being, anon.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm only saving you effort of typing out what your kind usually presents as "analysis", my friend. You're welcome by the way.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Omagine writing this type of bait on a friday.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah i fell for it, i really thought you were moronic, you're a natural i may say

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yes yes of course it all happened because of zrada and because russians were too civil and because generals were incompetent and corrupt and if only batyushka putin knew everything would be fine and not so bad.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you cant be 100% sure anything is out of reach because this war is unpredictable, you had entire year to learn this. around a year ago russian tanks were 1 hour from khreshchatyk, ukrainian tanks can end up in melitopol in 3 months. or they will try and will be slaughtered. or they will never attack there. your "...ever again" prediction is moronic and kherson billboard is perfect to mock it, just say you have your doubts, pseudo-intellectual homosexual

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >you cant be 100% sure anything is out of reach
                yeah that goes for nearly everything, but you're right.
                but again given what we've seen and what the ukraine has at its disposal and given that modern wars are not fought with polearms and swords, courage and determination can only go so far (not very) and war is decided by technology and equipment, it's highly highly unlikely.

                Merely pretending is still being, anon.

                don't flatter yourself, you're not pretending

                >Missing the point

                you missed it too, there was no point

                I'm only saving you effort of typing out what your kind usually presents as "analysis", my friend. You're welcome by the way.

                no you're externalizig the conversation you're have with the vatnig living in your head

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Because there's no magical property about any of the russian gains along the sea of Azov making them unable to be retaken a la Kherson you sperg

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Please explain in detail which factors that contributed to the liberation of Kherson apply to reaching the sea of Azov and how

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How about you explain why something that's already happened this war (a successful major Ukrainian counteroffensive) can't happen in the direction of the sea of Azov? You simply insist this is impossible with no justification.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I have no idea why so you tell me why not
                Can you tell me in what respect Kherson and the sea of Azov are similar?
                As for the rest

                let me try to formulate your "argument" for you my mentally challenged friend
                ukraine retook kherson (let's not worry about how or why, the analysis of causes is hard after all, and acontinue living in this magical world where things just happens) therefore ukraine will reach the sea of azov (again lets overlook all those pesky details as to how one would imply the others, it would just happen as if by magic)
                it's a dumbass "argument" that betrays your lack of intelligence

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They are both places involved in this war, and therefore both are capable of being invaded in this war. You're the one insisting it's simply impossible without articulating why.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Very deep and insightful anon, I can't argue with that logic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Missing the point

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >"Kherson - Forever with Russia"
        kek

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    My guess is these have large semi-submersible drones ready to go loaded with explosives and the GPS cords of the bridge supports. They just need to make it to the Sea of Azov shoreline to launch them.

    Unless the Russians already have the while thing rigged with torpedo nets? (I doubt they're that smart, they can't seem to anticipate anything)

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >So let's assume the Ukrainians retake the rest of Zaporizhia and Kherson and reach the border of Crimea.
    They won't

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If Ukraine tries to invade Crimea then Putin uses it as an excuse to bring the other hand out from behind his back and actually act like he’s fighting a fricking war. Either that or it goes nuclear, but it won’t matter either way because the Moskva debacle notwithstanding Russia’s naval superiority still holds & will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Will he take the glove off from the hand that was behind his back the whole time or will it stay on at first?

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >So let's assume the Ukrainians retake the rest of Zaporizhia and Kherson
    even US intelligence knows this isn't going to happen, and it's deluded to think it will

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why? It's just like Kherson, I don't know how or why but it just is, ok?

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    An invasion of Crimea will actually go nuclear. Solely because the Russians were moronic enough to brandish their stupid fricking nuclear weapons one time too many.

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