So let's assume the Ukrainians retake the rest of Zaporizhia and Kherson and reach the border of Crimea. What can the Ukrainians do to Russian naval assets and the Kerch bridge? What will the Russian navy do to defend itself? Enlighten me.
Crimea and the naval situation
Haven't the Ukrainians already bullied the Russian navy out of the Black Sea?
With GLSDB the Kerch bridge would be just barely in range, if they put it right on that one peninsular, which might be a bit too exposed.
Aside from that a Crimea without the land bridge and damaged or destroyed bridge at Kerch would be an absolute nightmare to supply for Russia
Did you read how they fired at Snek island at max range of Bogdana and Caesar? Mofos floated the howitzers back and forth each day, to basically a floodplain on the coast. I really wouldn't put it past them, Ukies are crazy bastards.
Lel, first time I'm hearing about it, but in all honesty I can't say I'm surprised
Good question, I remember that was a problem the Antoniwsky bridge, Totchka-U wasn't accurate enough and everything else they had just put a bunch of holes in the bridge until it was eventually unusable.
Can GLSDB even destroy a well reinforced concrete bridge like Kerch? I’m pretty sure it’d need demolition charges and thermite.
well you can always fire multiple Missiles
No need to remove large portions of the bridge completely, just blow some holes into the road pavement and tracks for short periods of time consecutively, to render it practically unusuable.
Warhead
>SDB I (GBU-39/B) penetrating blast fragmentation, penetrating steel nosecone[7]
>Laser SDB (GBU-39B/B) penetrating blast fragmentation, w/o steel nosecone[7]
Warhead weight
>All SDB I variants 206 lb (93 kg) total[7][8]
>SDB I (GBU-39/B) 36 lb (16 kg) AFX 757 enhanced blast insensitive explosive, penetrating steel case and nosecone
>Laser SDB (GBU-39B/B) 36 lb (16 kg) AFX 757 enhanced blast insensitive explosive, penetrating steel case
it won't be that easy given the distance
but it'll happen eventually
also consider the marine drones
A dji drone with a well placed grenade drop on a munitions train would destroy the bridge.
there's also vilkha-m, they recentrly stepped up their use
cep is shit though (10-30m), but kerch bridge is a large mofo
>What can the Ukrainians do to Russian naval assets
Same thing Germany did when their Fleet was permanently in RAF and USAF bomber range
Accept its fucking doom
I must have missed the part where Germany was able to make the Royal Navy hide in London despite the fact that the Kriegsmarine was nonexistant.
Or am I misreading you post?
>The problem is Ukraine won't reach the sea of Azov ever again.
What makes you so sure?
I'm not so sure but I have little confidence in Ukraine's offensive capabilities against fortified positions given what I've seen and their lack of a modern airforce.
Accurate long range artillery fills the role of close air support.
Yes we can hOOpe, I remain skeptical.
Me too. I'm waiting to see how the next offensive goes before getting too exited about the thought of Ukraine retaking Crimea
I mean it shouldn't be that hard, all they really have to do is take Melitopol and the front will start to unravel, right?
Pretty much. Russia has no capacity to keep western flank supplied from Crimea alone. Mariupol might be able to hold a while if Russia wants, but honestly what would be the point in holding that wrecked place if Melitopol was lost?
NTA but Uboats were scary
The Russian Fleet already in the Black sea is all there is going to be. Turkey stops anymore warships from entering so what they have their is all they are getting and have had for the past year. And seeing as the Moskva was turned into a submarine just do more of that once you have gotten to the coastline.
If Ukraine reaches the sea of Azov the bridge wil be destroyed (Russia won't be able to stop every single attack)
The problem is Ukraine won't reach the sea of Azov ever again.
>The problem is Ukraine won't reach the sea of Azov ever again.
Kherson isn't on the sea of Azov retard.
Point still stands, retard.
You made 0 points
the point is what retards like you were saying what ukr wont reach kherson ever again 6 months ago, rus govnt was thinking the same in case you cant read russian on that billboard
how does that apply to the sea of Azov? can you formulate a coherent argument or is spitting out disconnected sentences the best of your argumentative abilities?
Are you so fucking retarded you can't put 2 and 2 together?
do it for me, because the 2 and 2 only exists in your head
Back to your shithole, thirdie.
let me try to formulate your "argument" for you my mentally challenged friend
ukraine retook kherson (let's not worry about how or why, the analysis of causes is hard after all, and acontinue living in this magical world where things just happens) therefore ukraine will reach the sea of azov (again lets overlook all those pesky details as to how one would imply the others, it would just happen as if by magic)
it's a dumbass "argument" that betrays your lack of intelligence
>Russia says Kherson is with Russia forever
>Ukraine retakes Kherson
>Retard says Ukraine will never reach the Azov Sea
You are here
>Ukraine reaches the Azov Sea
i can't cure terminal brainletism, go on your way you wonderful retard
can you please quote where you read any of that (let alone by me) my intellectually inferior interlocutor
Merely pretending is still being, anon.
I'm only saving you effort of typing out what your kind usually presents as "analysis", my friend. You're welcome by the way.
Omagine writing this type of bait on a friday.
yeah i fell for it, i really thought you were retarded, you're a natural i may say
yes yes of course it all happened because of zrada and because russians were too civil and because generals were incompetent and corrupt and if only batyushka putin knew everything would be fine and not so bad.
you cant be 100% sure anything is out of reach because this war is unpredictable, you had entire year to learn this. around a year ago russian tanks were 1 hour from khreshchatyk, ukrainian tanks can end up in melitopol in 3 months. or they will try and will be slaughtered. or they will never attack there. your "...ever again" prediction is retarded and kherson billboard is perfect to mock it, just say you have your doubts, pseudo-intellectual gay
>you cant be 100% sure anything is out of reach
yeah that goes for nearly everything, but you're right.
but again given what we've seen and what the ukraine has at its disposal and given that modern wars are not fought with polearms and swords, courage and determination can only go so far (not very) and war is decided by technology and equipment, it's highly highly unlikely.
don't flatter yourself, you're not pretending
you missed it too, there was no point
no you're externalizig the conversation you're have with the vatnig living in your head
Because there's no magical property about any of the russian gains along the sea of Azov making them unable to be retaken a la Kherson you sperg
Please explain in detail which factors that contributed to the liberation of Kherson apply to reaching the sea of Azov and how
How about you explain why something that's already happened this war (a successful major Ukrainian counteroffensive) can't happen in the direction of the sea of Azov? You simply insist this is impossible with no justification.
>I have no idea why so you tell me why not
Can you tell me in what respect Kherson and the sea of Azov are similar?
As for the rest
They are both places involved in this war, and therefore both are capable of being invaded in this war. You're the one insisting it's simply impossible without articulating why.
Very deep and insightful anon, I can't argue with that logic.
>Missing the point
>"Kherson - Forever with Russia"
kek
My guess is these have large semi-submersible drones ready to go loaded with explosives and the GPS cords of the bridge supports. They just need to make it to the Sea of Azov shoreline to launch them.
Unless the Russians already have the while thing rigged with torpedo nets? (I doubt they're that smart, they can't seem to anticipate anything)
>So let's assume the Ukrainians retake the rest of Zaporizhia and Kherson and reach the border of Crimea.
They won't
If Ukraine tries to invade Crimea then Putin uses it as an excuse to bring the other hand out from behind his back and actually act like he’s fighting a fucking war. Either that or it goes nuclear, but it won’t matter either way because the Moskva debacle notwithstanding Russia’s naval superiority still holds & will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
Will he take the glove off from the hand that was behind his back the whole time or will it stay on at first?
>So let's assume the Ukrainians retake the rest of Zaporizhia and Kherson
even US intelligence knows this isn't going to happen, and it's deluded to think it will
Why? It's just like Kherson, I don't know how or why but it just is, ok?
An invasion of Crimea will actually go nuclear. Solely because the Russians were retarded enough to brandish their stupid fucking nuclear weapons one time too many.