mass moves mass. there's a reason weight classes exist in MMA. someone that has literally twice your weight, assuming you're a lucas tier twink, isn't obese and if you catch one punch, it's lights out.
I'm sorry friend, but the average American male with a couple of weeks of boxing training could probably kill Bruce Lee in a fight. Little guys can't fight as well.
Bruce Lee sent a 245lb man flying back with his one-inch punch.
Most punching power is generated from the hips. Most 'big guys' I see fight tend to gas themselves out while not really dishing that much damage due to being retarded and ignoring the aforementioned fact.
>Bruce Lee wank
Anyone weighing 200lbs with a year of kickboxing and decent physical conditioning would annihilate him.
You can't even say he was pound for pound a good fighter cuz he never fought.
Literally the only legit fighter he is confirmed to have sparred with was Chuck Norris, who said he was really good. But even then, for all Chuck Norris has done for kickboxing, as the man who was blazing the trail he really wouldn't stack up against the modern pros.
>Im probably half your weight and would whip your dumb ass.
That's not how it works, you retard. Fat people are strong because they carry that fat, they carry that extra weight. You lift 20lbs for 30mins. They lift 300lbs every second of every day.
Most fat people's bodyweight is the limit of their strength though.
That's not to say fat people can't be strong, most elite powerlifters and strongmen I would consider fat, but to extrapolate that back to the average dude with his gut tucked into his sweatpants at walmart reads to me as pure cope from a guy who either is or is well on his way to being a dude with his gut tucked into his sweatpants at walmart
>Fat people are strong because they carry that fat, they carry that extra weight
You'd think that, but outside of those actively training in sports, fat people actually tend to have considerably atrophied muscles compared to healthy weight individuals because the vast majority of them lives a very sedentary lifestyle. Plus there are the hormonal changes that being fat causes, it increases your estrogen and lowers your testosterone which has negative impacts on strength and muscle mass
There is probably a sweet spot of sorts where what you're saying applies, but I'd say it's lower than what you probably think it is and caps out at 25% bf at most
Or at least their joints attempt to carry that weight as they are ground down into arthritis as testerone drops and blood pressure rises, leading to a literal 5x increase in all cause mortality, including from being too slow to move.
In a gunfight? Idk maybe. I'm pretty good but he's also very good even if he also definitely manipulates footage to make him look better than he actually is. He also has a lot of bad habits he doesn't seem interested in fixing (stuff like peeking corners with his gun down etc, range theatrics) and clearly has a huge ego about his own abilities and a huge inferiority complex (seemingly about his physicality and masculinity) which is a massive detriment to actual improvement.
In a fistfight? I'm 5'10" 215lbs @ 15% bodyfat, lift and do cardio 5x a week, work as a wildland firefighter, and have competed (and done very well) in a variety of martial arts since I was a kid, while he posts about how much chocolate milk he drinks a week and whines about how hard it is to gain weight while having visible habsberg genetics due to being the product of generations of incest cult inbreeding and a lifetime of sitting in a gamer chair.
said if you google portraits of habsburgs it's honestly pretty crazy how much botkin resembles members of one of the most famously inbred family of all time.
>incest
Huh? I know they're part of the quiverfull movement or whatever it's called and advocate for large families but it's my first time hearing anything other than that
Quiverfull is rife with sexual abuse and neglect and they aren't a "part" of it, Lucas's dad is one of the major thought leaders of the movement
In terms of the incest stuff, it's been inferred from very weird stuff Geoffrey Botkin has said about the roles of boys and girls in the household plus equally weird stuff Lucas's (also eceleb btw) older sisters have said, in addition to the entire family showing more telltale signs of inbreeding than early-20th century European royalty but there's not like police reports or arrests or anything.
One thing I'm really curious about is how papa jeff feels about his closeted gay son clearly not having a sexual relationship with his wife or being married in his 30s with no children
>very weird stuff Geoffrey Botkin has said about the roles of boys and girls in the household plus equally weird stuff Lucas's (also eceleb btw) older sisters have said
Have you got some examples? It seems he put out a ton of content and I don't really want to do a deep dive into their nonsense
In a gunfight? Idk maybe. I'm pretty good but he's also very good even if he also definitely manipulates footage to make him look better than he actually is. He also has a lot of bad habits he doesn't seem interested in fixing (stuff like peeking corners with his gun down etc, range theatrics) and clearly has a huge ego about his own abilities and a huge inferiority complex (seemingly about his physicality and masculinity) which is a massive detriment to actual improvement.
In a fistfight? I'm 5'10" 215lbs @ 15% bodyfat, lift and do cardio 5x a week, work as a wildland firefighter, and have competed (and done very well) in a variety of martial arts since I was a kid, while he posts about how much chocolate milk he drinks a week and whines about how hard it is to gain weight while having visible habsberg genetics due to being the product of generations of incest cult inbreeding and a lifetime of sitting in a gamer chair.
in a dick sucking contest? He's got me beat
1v1 slappers only on Stack
I never lose
Doesn't Mano a Mano mean hand to hand not one on one?
Idk bro I'm an american i barely speak the one language
What I DO know is that in a fistfight between myself and lucas botkin I would smear him down the sidewalk like jelly on toast with only very slightly more effort than it takes to spread jelly on toast
In a gunfight? Idk maybe. I'm pretty good but he's also very good even if he also definitely manipulates footage to make him look better than he actually is. He also has a lot of bad habits he doesn't seem interested in fixing (stuff like peeking corners with his gun down etc, range theatrics) and clearly has a huge ego about his own abilities and a huge inferiority complex (seemingly about his physicality and masculinity) which is a massive detriment to actual improvement.
In a fistfight? I'm 5'10" 215lbs @ 15% bodyfat, lift and do cardio 5x a week, work as a wildland firefighter, and have competed (and done very well) in a variety of martial arts since I was a kid, while he posts about how much chocolate milk he drinks a week and whines about how hard it is to gain weight while having visible habsberg genetics due to being the product of generations of incest cult inbreeding and a lifetime of sitting in a gamer chair.
>bad habits he doesn't seem interested in fixing (stuff like peeking corners with his gun down etc, range theatrics)
I've picked up on this as well, he also sticks his head out a lot and tends to move to different targets really fast without assessing the situation.
In the context of the courses of fire he sets up for himself it's a great way to get shot in the fucking face which is why they taught us to pie corners instead of peaking our heads out of concealment, seeing a target 3 yards away then leaning out into their sector of fire THEN getting your gun up and shooting, which is something he's been doing consistently for years.
Probably. He's so emotionally fragile that a little gamesmanship would probably cause him to flip out and he'd lose whatever contest we were engaging with. Guy's a lolcow.
Unarmed, sure. He's tiny, I'm not, I'll just pick him up and body slam, repeat until desired cranial consistency is achieved. Probably would beat me in a duel/gunfight, just cause he shoots a lot more than me.
Definitely. I would also run a guns akimbo platform, but unlike Lucas, I was also be running switchblades akimbo, so when our bullets both run out at the same time I'd pull out the dualauto knives and end it in an instant.
I'm not gonna be one of those "I'm sure to win because I'm bigger" fags because I know that someone doesn't need to be bigger than you to win. They just need to have a strong enough punch to knock you out. That said, I still think Lucas isn't strong enough to knock someone out.
>I'm not gonna be one of those "I'm sure to win because I'm bigger" fags because I know that someone doesn't need to be bigger than you to win. They just need to have a strong enough punch to knock you out.
Weight classes exist in all combat sports for a reason anon, and that's because most of the time, bigger = stronger.
Size is certainly not the only predictor of the outcome of a fight but it's still a very, very good predictor, with the exceptions being dudes like Mike Tyson who aren't necessarily (relatively-speaking compared to the other heavyweight boxers he consistently wrung out) big guys but are able to overcome larger opponents purely through aggression and having absolute cannons for arms, which as we agree on, is certainly not the case for lucas fucking botkin
>because most of the time, bigger = stronger
It's more like "heavier = more muscle". While a bigger frame usually goes hand in hand with more muscle, sometimes it doesn't.
It's ridiculously uncommon for someone to get KO'd after one shot. Learning basic footwork, how to throw a few punches effectively and grapple, being the biggest one, is the real way to win a fight.
Yeah yeah. You're full of shit and got called on it. Humans don't have health bars IRL, you idiot. The right hit on the right spot is what drops someone.
Not the anon youre replying to but you’re obviously retarded. The vast majority of fights start standing and end in some type of hold or mounting position. Youre not around much violence probably only specifically videos on the interwebz. Your mom is calling you for breakfast kiddo.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm not that guy either and I agree that it's not five punches that knocks someone out. It's the punch that applies the right level of g-forces to the jaw and makes the brain reboot.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah and that punch the vast majority of the time isnt a one hitter. That punch comes after several other punches. Yes a punch will knock you out. It usually takes a few to do it though.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Most of the KOs I’ve seen were from punches someone didn’t see coming. Either a sucker punch or from an angle out of a clinch that took them unawares.
>Yes he’s Mormon so he can’t hit back
Is that why the mormons dressed up as Indian and murdered non mormon settlers They could kill them but not hit them?
"Army troops visiting the site almost two years later reported finding skulls, scraps of clothing and clumps of hair still strewn around. As evidence emerged over time -- most recently in an excavation in 1999 -- the massacre was shown to have been the handiwork of about 50 Mormons, many of them disguised as Indians."
In a gunfight? His 3 gun speedsoft bullshit is fucking retarded and there’s footage out there where he’s going so fast around corners prefiring a bb gun like a video game that he almost shoots himself
In a fist fight? I can probably break him in half just by tackling him
Seems spindly, and I'm a mason by trade. If he gets close enough to me and I can grab hold of an arm I feel like I could snap it just with grip strength.
I'm also significantly bigger than he is though, so assume he could be faster, so if he can get the drop on me or has the stamina and speed to wear me out, that's where his chance lays.
If I can connect with him once I think it'd be joever.
>built a youtube channel/business with his rich daddy's money, yet acts like he's a self-made man >"i did it all through my hard work, why can't other young people do the same?"
he just rubs me the wrong way
Don't forget that even with all that he still lies about training special forces.
He's in that really weird kind of headspace where he's a complete loser despite being successful and wealthy.
>millionaire through lotto
Well yes, but at the same time no. People who get rich off the lotto don't tend to hide the origins of their money. If anything they play up their luck and are absurdly honest about it, often to the point of losing all their "gift" money.
Lucas is more like he's ashamed of winning the lotto and has invented an entirely new persona to pretend that he's not basically a really lucky sperm cell.
Don't want to dog pile on the guy, but you've explained why he always just has such an off putting way about him.
His popular appeal taught me that the gun community will tolerate a twink with a silver spoon as long as he has a good video editor.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I honestly find his popularity baffling but I guess largely chalk it up to him appealing to zoomers and gamer kids and/or the types of people who find the whole "jacked bearded oper8r" thing offputting (not that it's necessarily incorrect to find those dudes offputting, a lot of them are) for a variety of reason (personally I think him and his fanbase are offput by it mostly due to an inferiority complex either regarding their ability to confirm to tradtionally masculine norms or the fact that their resumes are only 90% bullshit instead of 100% bullshit) but botkin in particular is just so diametrically opposed in terms of his physical makeup, his background, his skillset, his presentation etc. The fuckin guy sounds like he has his nose plugged when he talks, bro talks like steve urkel
But again there's clearly some appeal to it. Whenever he does q&a things it's full of people asking him for financial advice (as if he didn't at the very least use the extensive infrastructure he had access to as the son of a very wealthy family, he claims to have started his company with "$1000 and an iphone" but that doesn't buy you enough land to have the kind of range he shoots on etc), advice about running a business (as if his older brother that does deep dive videos sometimes isn't clearly actually running the company, there is literally no way that lucas spends as much time on instagram and playing video games as he does while also working as much as he claims to), people asking him for relationship advice (as if there isn't a palpable and borderline painful lack of physical chemistry between him and his wife)
And the list goes on and on. I find it fascinating honestly just in terms of who could possibly be looking to this dude as a role model but they clearly exist.
1 month ago
Anonymous
He’s literally a surrogate father to losers. All the dudes asking for financial advice from a dude who got an inheritance is beyond retarded. Lucas tries to invent stories like he started all that shit from nothing (like him stating he made holsters in a garage without ac like it’s a badge of honor and a sign of really struggling, like he couldn’t just walk back into the house he lived in with his well off family)
>lucas lets some sof dudes who are rolling through tennessee use his range >uses photos of them shooting while he talks to them to strongly imply that they are taking a class from him >this spirals into him claiming to have run multiple shooting classes for SOF and even written SOPs for SOF units because he is a ultimately a kid who was homeschooled in an extremely permissive environment with seemingly a father figure that was probably extremely emotionally withdrawn and is a compulsive liar desperate for positive reinforcement as a result and people have been eating his bullshit for years >lie was just too fucking egregious and he proceeded to get absolutely raked over the coals for it >his underage airsofter core fanbase don't care and he basically just lies low for a while and comes back with new faux-humble rhetoric about how he "doesn't do tactics, he does shooting" etc
That basically brings us to the present. All that shit happened like 2 or 3 years ago.
The SF guys reached out to him, I believe it was 10th group guys
There's a training budget for every unit, and SOF units are always looking for potential instructors in the future
They worked on the range with him for I believe one day, and went back to think about it
It's unclear exactly what they thought about him, because before they could either decide to continue working with him or not, he posted those pics and implied he trained them, two things they explicitly told him not to do
After a trust related issue like that, the SF dudes cut ties instantly, and as of now he is blacklisted for ARSOF training
While ARSOF only really covers SF, PSYOPS, CA, and those helicopter pilots (forgetting their name), other SOF units would certainly take note of something like that, and realistically speaking he's never going to actually get to train any SOCOM unit in any capacity
But a lot of this is hearsay
1 month ago
Anonymous
>he's never going to actually get to train any SOCOM unit in any capacity
Well, why SHOULD he get to train them in any capacity? Literally what does he have to offer other than his (admittedly very cool and would love to set up something like it if I had some acreage for it) range and toys that are worse versions of the shit those guys get issued?
Like what does he actually have to teach them? There are thousands of USPSA GMs better than Lucas at double-tapping ipcs torsoes from 5 yards away who already have established shooting curriculums and much better reputations both as people and as instructors, with a proven ability to not post shit on instagram without permission for clout. What else does he even have to offer them as a teacher?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>what does he have to offer
It's my understanding that's why the SF guys were working with him. He has a big social media presence, and he demonstrates some level of proficiency using weapons. They probably figured they'd see him in person to see what he can actually do. He could have helped train weapons handling, or run flat ranges as a civilian range manager, or help run shoot houses. There's no harm in checking to see if he has skills worth imparting, and that part of the budget was gonna be spent anyway.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I should add on, at this point it's clear the kid is a airsoft speedshooter who pretends like he's a two gun competitive shooter, but I guess the sf guys just wanted to check if there was some usable talent worth scouting out
1 month ago
Anonymous
I think the sof guys were scouting for some cute twink gun bunny action
1 month ago
Anonymous
:3
1 month ago
Anonymous
>:)
1 month ago
Anonymous
I would guess that by the end of their range day it was probably really clear to both lcas abd the dudes vetting him that he had nothing to offer them which is probably why he posted the pictures and captions he did despite that being haram, and he legitimately did not expect to get any pushback
1 month ago
Anonymous
The range is half the draw. People think that whiteside SOF has regular access to much nicer facilities than they actually do, they're always looking for good facilities. And when it comes to learning actual shooting skills, it's very common for the military to go to competition shooters for that.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I guess I could see that but it's hard to imagine his setup is ACTUALLY markedly better than the shoothouses they're using, though I'm sure the dod is happy to pay someone else to clean up after them
>And when it comes to learning actual shooting skills, it's very common for the military to go to competition shooters for that.
I'm aware, which is why they hire grand master competition shooters with actual resumes, histories of teaching, and documented accomplishments in the sport of competition shooting. Lucas has none of those.
Like
I should add on, at this point it's clear the kid is a airsoft speedshooter who pretends like he's a two gun competitive shooter, but I guess the sf guys just wanted to check if there was some usable talent worth scouting out
said >at this point it's clear the kid is a airsoft speedshooter who pretends like he's a two gun competitive shooter
1 month ago
Anonymous
that's the thing though, most whiteside sof units do not have their own dedicated facilities like that. So if there's one nearby that they can utilize regularly that's basically a no brainer.
The SF guys reached out to him, I believe it was 10th group guys
There's a training budget for every unit, and SOF units are always looking for potential instructors in the future
They worked on the range with him for I believe one day, and went back to think about it
It's unclear exactly what they thought about him, because before they could either decide to continue working with him or not, he posted those pics and implied he trained them, two things they explicitly told him not to do
After a trust related issue like that, the SF dudes cut ties instantly, and as of now he is blacklisted for ARSOF training
While ARSOF only really covers SF, PSYOPS, CA, and those helicopter pilots (forgetting their name), other SOF units would certainly take note of something like that, and realistically speaking he's never going to actually get to train any SOCOM unit in any capacity
But a lot of this is hearsay
As much as I hate the ego of the Twink, the Navyman gay is just as bad claiming he's such a Billy badness when in reality he's just a POG in the fucking Navy, GarandThumb probably has more training than Navygay.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Navyman's a fag butt his assessment of lucas's bullshitting got more right than wrong
And being a pog in the navy ironically gives him much much more credibility than botkin has wrt mil training standards lmao
1 month ago
Anonymous
When he said he sticks his head out too much and doesn't have his weapon up before he peeks corners was pretty accurate. A lot of Lucas's shit is like a mix if speedsoft, paintball, and 3 gun, but nothing of substance. He just recently claims to have gotten into "long range" shooting because his daddy let him splurge on a laser rangefinder and LRPR and now he REALLY thinks he is the shit.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I really wouldn't hate him if he had the ability to put any kind of check on his ego
there's no doubt in my mind I kick the shit out of him 10 times out of 10. he's a career twink that's never thrown a punch or even lifted a weight until this year. taking his one advantage away is beyond unfair
The guy said the night vision industry or some shit is queer. So if anything I most likely would die the moment I saw him since I'm just a guy who likes guns.
It's because he's selling a product. There's nothing there but marketing
Let me put it this way: the same guys who refuse to drink Bud Lite now would 100% buy things from Lucas because of the mean-mugging because it aligns with their image of what masculinity should be. Nevermind that Lucas is actually another whiny elite living off daddy's cash and influence, he's signaling he's on the "right" side and is, therefore, not only safe to buy from, but morally correct to buy from.
Isaac seems old enough that he was born before dad tapped into the fundie retard gold vein so it's very likely he's actually worked a day or two in his life and it shows.
Is that Lucas Botkin? That twink has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Boca Raton Air BnB. That shit had to be the tightest, whitest, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Lucas screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That twink frotted my cock until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That twink Lucas and I been fucking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Lucas, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass bros either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.
That Twink Lucas Botkin stole my heart and drank my seed.
Is that Lucas Botkin? That bro has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Boca Raton Air BnB. That shit had to be the tightest, whitest, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Spotemgottem screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That bro frotted my cock until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That bro Spotemgottem and I been fucking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Spotemgottem, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass bros either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.
That bro Lucas stole my heart and drank my sneed.
The the bitter moron energy is so strong on the youtuber posts. I bet all of you would run up to him and tell him how much you love his holsters if you saw him irl.
Can we just ignore this shit? I bet Lucas started this post just so you guys keep talking about him.
Built for BBC
Looks gay.
In a fist fight I'd win because he's half my weight
In cardio or 3 gun I'd probably loose because he's half my weight
>fat =/= muscle
Im probably half your weight and would whip your dumb ass.
mass moves mass. there's a reason weight classes exist in MMA. someone that has literally twice your weight, assuming you're a lucas tier twink, isn't obese and if you catch one punch, it's lights out.
>t. competed in MMA and BJJ for 12 years
>mass moves mass
So, would all of my lifts increase if I wore a weighted vest?
if you wore it nonstop in the same fashion a fat is always wearing their weight vest, yes
I'm sorry friend, but the average American male with a couple of weeks of boxing training could probably kill Bruce Lee in a fight. Little guys can't fight as well.
Bruce Lee sent a 245lb man flying back with his one-inch punch.
Most punching power is generated from the hips. Most 'big guys' I see fight tend to gas themselves out while not really dishing that much damage due to being retarded and ignoring the aforementioned fact.
>Bruce Lee wank
Anyone weighing 200lbs with a year of kickboxing and decent physical conditioning would annihilate him.
You can't even say he was pound for pound a good fighter cuz he never fought.
Literally the only legit fighter he is confirmed to have sparred with was Chuck Norris, who said he was really good. But even then, for all Chuck Norris has done for kickboxing, as the man who was blazing the trail he really wouldn't stack up against the modern pros.
>Bruce Lee sent a 245lb man flying back with his one-inch punch.
oh honey, please dont tell me you belive all of those silly slant eye tricks.
I bench 200 tho
>Im probably half your weight and would whip your dumb ass.
That's not how it works, you retard. Fat people are strong because they carry that fat, they carry that extra weight. You lift 20lbs for 30mins. They lift 300lbs every second of every day.
Most fat people's bodyweight is the limit of their strength though.
That's not to say fat people can't be strong, most elite powerlifters and strongmen I would consider fat, but to extrapolate that back to the average dude with his gut tucked into his sweatpants at walmart reads to me as pure cope from a guy who either is or is well on his way to being a dude with his gut tucked into his sweatpants at walmart
>Fat people are strong because they carry that fat, they carry that extra weight
You'd think that, but outside of those actively training in sports, fat people actually tend to have considerably atrophied muscles compared to healthy weight individuals because the vast majority of them lives a very sedentary lifestyle. Plus there are the hormonal changes that being fat causes, it increases your estrogen and lowers your testosterone which has negative impacts on strength and muscle mass
There is probably a sweet spot of sorts where what you're saying applies, but I'd say it's lower than what you probably think it is and caps out at 25% bf at most
Or at least their joints attempt to carry that weight as they are ground down into arthritis as testerone drops and blood pressure rises, leading to a literal 5x increase in all cause mortality, including from being too slow to move.
My lawyer could beat you his lawyer
I'd have made a twink joke, but he fuck(s)(ed) his sister, so I'm okay not being anywhere near him.
>he fuck(s)(ed) his sister
I'm sorry what
He grew up in an incest cult family.
Huh, so that's why he's got that fucked up face.
Like
said if you google portraits of habsburgs it's honestly pretty crazy how much botkin resembles members of one of the most famously inbred family of all time.
Proofs?
The hapsburg jaw
>He grew up in an incest cult family.
>Proofs?
>so that's why he's got that fucked up face.
>incest
Huh? I know they're part of the quiverfull movement or whatever it's called and advocate for large families but it's my first time hearing anything other than that
Quiverfull is rife with sexual abuse and neglect and they aren't a "part" of it, Lucas's dad is one of the major thought leaders of the movement
In terms of the incest stuff, it's been inferred from very weird stuff Geoffrey Botkin has said about the roles of boys and girls in the household plus equally weird stuff Lucas's (also eceleb btw) older sisters have said, in addition to the entire family showing more telltale signs of inbreeding than early-20th century European royalty but there's not like police reports or arrests or anything.
One thing I'm really curious about is how papa jeff feels about his closeted gay son clearly not having a sexual relationship with his wife or being married in his 30s with no children
>very weird stuff Geoffrey Botkin has said about the roles of boys and girls in the household plus equally weird stuff Lucas's (also eceleb btw) older sisters have said
Have you got some examples? It seems he put out a ton of content and I don't really want to do a deep dive into their nonsense
lmfao you guys have way too much time on your hands
believable. i wont ask for evidence
>implying there's anything wrong with holy xwedodah
subhuman non-Aryan detected.
I could take his anal virginity no problem
>Non-aryan
I suppose Norman doesn't count, and that was pretty washed out in the following centuries by Anglos and Celts anyway.
>he fucks his sister
Based as long as you pull out
Block all gay guntoober threads.
In a salsa dancing contest? Easily.
Doesn't Mano a Mano mean hand to hand not one on one?
I always thought that was a pron category
No you're thinking of Mexican gay porn; Juan on Juan.
it might be a Rammstein song
if I report zim to the ATF will zee go away ?
Idk bro I'm an american i barely speak the one language
What I DO know is that in a fistfight between myself and lucas botkin I would smear him down the sidewalk like jelly on toast with only very slightly more effort than it takes to spread jelly on toast
post body
In a gunfight? Idk maybe. I'm pretty good but he's also very good even if he also definitely manipulates footage to make him look better than he actually is. He also has a lot of bad habits he doesn't seem interested in fixing (stuff like peeking corners with his gun down etc, range theatrics) and clearly has a huge ego about his own abilities and a huge inferiority complex (seemingly about his physicality and masculinity) which is a massive detriment to actual improvement.
In a fistfight? I'm 5'10" 215lbs @ 15% bodyfat, lift and do cardio 5x a week, work as a wildland firefighter, and have competed (and done very well) in a variety of martial arts since I was a kid, while he posts about how much chocolate milk he drinks a week and whines about how hard it is to gain weight while having visible habsberg genetics due to being the product of generations of incest cult inbreeding and a lifetime of sitting in a gamer chair.
Type 2 crew or HSC?
IHC
>bad habits he doesn't seem interested in fixing (stuff like peeking corners with his gun down etc, range theatrics)
I've picked up on this as well, he also sticks his head out a lot and tends to move to different targets really fast without assessing the situation.
>like peeking corners with his gun down
thats literally standard cqb ttp to reduce fratricide
In the context of the courses of fire he sets up for himself it's a great way to get shot in the fucking face which is why they taught us to pie corners instead of peaking our heads out of concealment, seeing a target 3 yards away then leaning out into their sector of fire THEN getting your gun up and shooting, which is something he's been doing consistently for years.
This guy is flexing too hard, he's 5'7" tops and built like a broomstick, I could take him and Botkin on with one hand inside my anus.
You're a turbomanlet
in a dick sucking contest? He's got me beat
wood berry
1v1 slappers only on Stack
I never lose
Probably. He's so emotionally fragile that a little gamesmanship would probably cause him to flip out and he'd lose whatever contest we were engaging with. Guy's a lolcow.
This. He doesn't seem mentally strong. Probably hasnt been under much stress or even seen a corpse IRL. It wouldnt take much to break him
I could take him with both hands tied behind my back, just some hip thrusts.
How much does he weigh?
why would i have a duel if i wanted somebody dead
i'd figure out his day to day and pick a vulnerable moment
Unarmed, sure. He's tiny, I'm not, I'll just pick him up and body slam, repeat until desired cranial consistency is achieved. Probably would beat me in a duel/gunfight, just cause he shoots a lot more than me.
guns are so unfair, i could totally fuck him up if he wasn't packing heat.
>mano a mano
He's a fucking twink who wears womens jeans I will obliterate him in a brawl.
Definitely. I would also run a guns akimbo platform, but unlike Lucas, I was also be running switchblades akimbo, so when our bullets both run out at the same time I'd pull out the dualauto knives and end it in an instant.
I'm not gonna be one of those "I'm sure to win because I'm bigger" fags because I know that someone doesn't need to be bigger than you to win. They just need to have a strong enough punch to knock you out. That said, I still think Lucas isn't strong enough to knock someone out.
>I'm not gonna be one of those "I'm sure to win because I'm bigger" fags because I know that someone doesn't need to be bigger than you to win. They just need to have a strong enough punch to knock you out.
Weight classes exist in all combat sports for a reason anon, and that's because most of the time, bigger = stronger.
Size is certainly not the only predictor of the outcome of a fight but it's still a very, very good predictor, with the exceptions being dudes like Mike Tyson who aren't necessarily (relatively-speaking compared to the other heavyweight boxers he consistently wrung out) big guys but are able to overcome larger opponents purely through aggression and having absolute cannons for arms, which as we agree on, is certainly not the case for lucas fucking botkin
>because most of the time, bigger = stronger
It's more like "heavier = more muscle". While a bigger frame usually goes hand in hand with more muscle, sometimes it doesn't.
>KOs moron
>sprints away
WIFE
>>KOs moron
away
Smart, before the rest of the tribe pummels her
It's ridiculously uncommon for someone to get KO'd after one shot. Learning basic footwork, how to throw a few punches effectively and grapple, being the biggest one, is the real way to win a fight.
>It's ridiculously uncommon for someone to get KO'd after one shot.
What a load of complete BS. It happens all the time.
>What a load of complete BS. It happens all the time.
No, it doesn't and you're a fucking retard. The vast vast majority of IRL fights start off with punches thrown then go to the ground.
Yeah yeah. You're full of shit and got called on it. Humans don't have health bars IRL, you idiot. The right hit on the right spot is what drops someone.
Not the anon youre replying to but you’re obviously retarded. The vast majority of fights start standing and end in some type of hold or mounting position. Youre not around much violence probably only specifically videos on the interwebz. Your mom is calling you for breakfast kiddo.
I'm not that guy either and I agree that it's not five punches that knocks someone out. It's the punch that applies the right level of g-forces to the jaw and makes the brain reboot.
Yeah and that punch the vast majority of the time isnt a one hitter. That punch comes after several other punches. Yes a punch will knock you out. It usually takes a few to do it though.
Most of the KOs I’ve seen were from punches someone didn’t see coming. Either a sucker punch or from an angle out of a clinch that took them unawares.
He would get absorbed into my being as I take him up in my arms
Yes he’s Mormon so he can’t hit back
>Yes he’s Mormon so he can’t hit back
Is that why the mormons dressed up as Indian and murdered non mormon settlers They could kill them but not hit them?
"Army troops visiting the site almost two years later reported finding skulls, scraps of clothing and clumps of hair still strewn around. As evidence emerged over time -- most recently in an excavation in 1999 -- the massacre was shown to have been the handiwork of about 50 Mormons, many of them disguised as Indians."
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-jun-29-me-then29-story.html#
Shut up, Doyle.
GT is too
He's addressed this before somewhere and clarified he was married to a Mormon girl, but was never a believer himself.
I like Botkin because he makes reddit trannies seethe uncontrollably.
In a gunfight? His 3 gun speedsoft bullshit is fucking retarded and there’s footage out there where he’s going so fast around corners prefiring a bb gun like a video game that he almost shoots himself
In a fist fight? I can probably break him in half just by tackling him
https://vocaroo.com/17rk57D0hhqA
Que?
https://voca.ro/1nqE6mo7w6MK
hated every second of that thanks
my sides are in orbit
AI is both a curse and a blessing
The mp9 looks pretty kickass
Thought it was a glock and brace
Seems spindly, and I'm a mason by trade. If he gets close enough to me and I can grab hold of an arm I feel like I could snap it just with grip strength.
I'm also significantly bigger than he is though, so assume he could be faster, so if he can get the drop on me or has the stamina and speed to wear me out, that's where his chance lays.
If I can connect with him once I think it'd be joever.
someone post the barebacked botkin copypasta already goddamnnit
Reading Lucas threads always makes me concerned, I really hope you morons are just shitposting and not actually want to fuck another man's ass
You're the first person in the thread to talk about that. I think you're projecting.
>I really hope you morons are just shitposting and not actually want to fuck another man's ass
are you taking the piss? where do you think you are?
Fucking another man's ass is not BASED nor TRAD, anon! Not like Lucas at all!
Anon, PrepHole has always been about fucking other men in the ass. What do you think we need the guns for?
qrd on why redditors get suddenly triggered by him? I don't even follow gun youtuber besides the odd video from google results
>built a youtube channel/business with his rich daddy's money, yet acts like he's a self-made man
>"i did it all through my hard work, why can't other young people do the same?"
he just rubs me the wrong way
Don't forget that even with all that he still lies about training special forces.
He's in that really weird kind of headspace where he's a complete loser despite being successful and wealthy.
You mean being a poser. All the success but none of it earned. Like being a millionaire from the lotto instead of through grunt work
>millionaire through lotto
Well yes, but at the same time no. People who get rich off the lotto don't tend to hide the origins of their money. If anything they play up their luck and are absurdly honest about it, often to the point of losing all their "gift" money.
Lucas is more like he's ashamed of winning the lotto and has invented an entirely new persona to pretend that he's not basically a really lucky sperm cell.
Very well put.
Don't want to dog pile on the guy, but you've explained why he always just has such an off putting way about him.
His popular appeal taught me that the gun community will tolerate a twink with a silver spoon as long as he has a good video editor.
I honestly find his popularity baffling but I guess largely chalk it up to him appealing to zoomers and gamer kids and/or the types of people who find the whole "jacked bearded oper8r" thing offputting (not that it's necessarily incorrect to find those dudes offputting, a lot of them are) for a variety of reason (personally I think him and his fanbase are offput by it mostly due to an inferiority complex either regarding their ability to confirm to tradtionally masculine norms or the fact that their resumes are only 90% bullshit instead of 100% bullshit) but botkin in particular is just so diametrically opposed in terms of his physical makeup, his background, his skillset, his presentation etc. The fuckin guy sounds like he has his nose plugged when he talks, bro talks like steve urkel
But again there's clearly some appeal to it. Whenever he does q&a things it's full of people asking him for financial advice (as if he didn't at the very least use the extensive infrastructure he had access to as the son of a very wealthy family, he claims to have started his company with "$1000 and an iphone" but that doesn't buy you enough land to have the kind of range he shoots on etc), advice about running a business (as if his older brother that does deep dive videos sometimes isn't clearly actually running the company, there is literally no way that lucas spends as much time on instagram and playing video games as he does while also working as much as he claims to), people asking him for relationship advice (as if there isn't a palpable and borderline painful lack of physical chemistry between him and his wife)
And the list goes on and on. I find it fascinating honestly just in terms of who could possibly be looking to this dude as a role model but they clearly exist.
He’s literally a surrogate father to losers. All the dudes asking for financial advice from a dude who got an inheritance is beyond retarded. Lucas tries to invent stories like he started all that shit from nothing (like him stating he made holsters in a garage without ac like it’s a badge of honor and a sign of really struggling, like he couldn’t just walk back into the house he lived in with his well off family)
>still lies about training special forces
Can I get a qrd?
>lucas lets some sof dudes who are rolling through tennessee use his range
>uses photos of them shooting while he talks to them to strongly imply that they are taking a class from him
>this spirals into him claiming to have run multiple shooting classes for SOF and even written SOPs for SOF units because he is a ultimately a kid who was homeschooled in an extremely permissive environment with seemingly a father figure that was probably extremely emotionally withdrawn and is a compulsive liar desperate for positive reinforcement as a result and people have been eating his bullshit for years
>lie was just too fucking egregious and he proceeded to get absolutely raked over the coals for it
>his underage airsofter core fanbase don't care and he basically just lies low for a while and comes back with new faux-humble rhetoric about how he "doesn't do tactics, he does shooting" etc
That basically brings us to the present. All that shit happened like 2 or 3 years ago.
The SF guys reached out to him, I believe it was 10th group guys
There's a training budget for every unit, and SOF units are always looking for potential instructors in the future
They worked on the range with him for I believe one day, and went back to think about it
It's unclear exactly what they thought about him, because before they could either decide to continue working with him or not, he posted those pics and implied he trained them, two things they explicitly told him not to do
After a trust related issue like that, the SF dudes cut ties instantly, and as of now he is blacklisted for ARSOF training
While ARSOF only really covers SF, PSYOPS, CA, and those helicopter pilots (forgetting their name), other SOF units would certainly take note of something like that, and realistically speaking he's never going to actually get to train any SOCOM unit in any capacity
But a lot of this is hearsay
>he's never going to actually get to train any SOCOM unit in any capacity
Well, why SHOULD he get to train them in any capacity? Literally what does he have to offer other than his (admittedly very cool and would love to set up something like it if I had some acreage for it) range and toys that are worse versions of the shit those guys get issued?
Like what does he actually have to teach them? There are thousands of USPSA GMs better than Lucas at double-tapping ipcs torsoes from 5 yards away who already have established shooting curriculums and much better reputations both as people and as instructors, with a proven ability to not post shit on instagram without permission for clout. What else does he even have to offer them as a teacher?
>what does he have to offer
It's my understanding that's why the SF guys were working with him. He has a big social media presence, and he demonstrates some level of proficiency using weapons. They probably figured they'd see him in person to see what he can actually do. He could have helped train weapons handling, or run flat ranges as a civilian range manager, or help run shoot houses. There's no harm in checking to see if he has skills worth imparting, and that part of the budget was gonna be spent anyway.
I should add on, at this point it's clear the kid is a airsoft speedshooter who pretends like he's a two gun competitive shooter, but I guess the sf guys just wanted to check if there was some usable talent worth scouting out
I think the sof guys were scouting for some cute twink gun bunny action
:3
>:)
I would guess that by the end of their range day it was probably really clear to both lcas abd the dudes vetting him that he had nothing to offer them which is probably why he posted the pictures and captions he did despite that being haram, and he legitimately did not expect to get any pushback
The range is half the draw. People think that whiteside SOF has regular access to much nicer facilities than they actually do, they're always looking for good facilities. And when it comes to learning actual shooting skills, it's very common for the military to go to competition shooters for that.
I guess I could see that but it's hard to imagine his setup is ACTUALLY markedly better than the shoothouses they're using, though I'm sure the dod is happy to pay someone else to clean up after them
>And when it comes to learning actual shooting skills, it's very common for the military to go to competition shooters for that.
I'm aware, which is why they hire grand master competition shooters with actual resumes, histories of teaching, and documented accomplishments in the sport of competition shooting. Lucas has none of those.
Like
said
>at this point it's clear the kid is a airsoft speedshooter who pretends like he's a two gun competitive shooter
that's the thing though, most whiteside sof units do not have their own dedicated facilities like that. So if there's one nearby that they can utilize regularly that's basically a no brainer.
>blacklisted for AIRSOFT training
As much as I hate the ego of the Twink, the Navyman gay is just as bad claiming he's such a Billy badness when in reality he's just a POG in the fucking Navy, GarandThumb probably has more training than Navygay.
Navyman's a fag butt his assessment of lucas's bullshitting got more right than wrong
And being a pog in the navy ironically gives him much much more credibility than botkin has wrt mil training standards lmao
When he said he sticks his head out too much and doesn't have his weapon up before he peeks corners was pretty accurate. A lot of Lucas's shit is like a mix if speedsoft, paintball, and 3 gun, but nothing of substance. He just recently claims to have gotten into "long range" shooting because his daddy let him splurge on a laser rangefinder and LRPR and now he REALLY thinks he is the shit.
I really wouldn't hate him if he had the ability to put any kind of check on his ego
I don't think I could hit a woman, even one that dikey.
there's no doubt in my mind I kick the shit out of him 10 times out of 10. he's a career twink that's never thrown a punch or even lifted a weight until this year. taking his one advantage away is beyond unfair
>lank
ye probably, assuming he doesn't shoot me
fist fight, yes. killhouse, not a chance. woods skirmish, in my favor.
The guy said the night vision industry or some shit is queer. So if anything I most likely would die the moment I saw him since I'm just a guy who likes guns.
Look at all of this wonderful weapons discussion in here
I don't fight men, I fuck their wives.
Hope you enjoy my wife’s DICK gay!
Why is this dude always mean-mugging like he's some kind of badass when he's basically the equivalency of a make-up channel but for guys?
It's because he's selling a product. There's nothing there but marketing
Let me put it this way: the same guys who refuse to drink Bud Lite now would 100% buy things from Lucas because of the mean-mugging because it aligns with their image of what masculinity should be. Nevermind that Lucas is actually another whiny elite living off daddy's cash and influence, he's signaling he's on the "right" side and is, therefore, not only safe to buy from, but morally correct to buy from.
With my penis wenis? Of course.
He'd get knocked the fuck out getting dickslapped by a Chinese eunuch
Story? I'm not up to date on eceleb lore for anyone aside from Paul Harrell.
I would probably easily overpower him and choke him out. In a shooting match he would decimate me. If he ran away I would not be able to catch him.
>Could you take Lucas mano a mano?
I'd never let a known Mormon incest peddler within 100 yards of me
>Not running the GooBeRS hydra
NGMI
No, I'm more of a raider / village rapist build.
my body count
9 men (1 was an accident)
2 women and 1 child same time - accident
his body count
15,000 call of duty and youtube video paper targets
my body count your mom (was an accident)
I am your dad.
no i wont pay alimony
TYFYServix
That's a lot of sex you've had.
>admitting to fucking dudes
Never change PrepHole
>8 men
>1 by accident
It's still gay bro
Literally fucking who? how about lick my balls faggit
How fit is Isaac Botkin? He seems much less like a twink
Isaac seems old enough that he was born before dad tapped into the fundie retard gold vein so it's very likely he's actually worked a day or two in his life and it shows.
yeah, i think so.
Is that Lucas Botkin? That twink has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Boca Raton Air BnB. That shit had to be the tightest, whitest, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Lucas screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That twink frotted my cock until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That twink Lucas and I been fucking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Lucas, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass bros either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.
That Twink Lucas Botkin stole my heart and drank my seed.
I sometimes wonder if he ever saw this pasta and if so, what his reaction was
I WANT TO BULLY LUCAS BOTKIN
Is that Lucas Botkin? That bro has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Boca Raton Air BnB. That shit had to be the tightest, whitest, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Spotemgottem screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That bro frotted my cock until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That bro Spotemgottem and I been fucking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Spotemgottem, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass bros either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.
That bro Lucas stole my heart and drank my sneed.
https://voca.ro/18LNo0F9ZjI9
>https://voca.ro/18LNo0F9ZjI9
>forward slash k forward slash
kek
The the bitter moron energy is so strong on the youtuber posts. I bet all of you would run up to him and tell him how much you love his holsters if you saw him irl.
Can we just ignore this shit? I bet Lucas started this post just so you guys keep talking about him.