Could Ukrainians make use of Hueys?

Could Ukrainians make use of Hueys?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They can’t make use of anything they’ve been getting lmao
    Face it retard, Russia won

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Face it retard, Russia won

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        fuck, this is haunting

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, but for a moment I thought it was the one with the guy actually missing half of the face.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm only sad they couldn't ID his face and send this to his family. It'd be really funny.

            War and being retarded really removes humanity from one.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm only sad they couldn't ID his face and send this to his family. It'd be really funny.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          might be able to identify him on dental records if his teeth aren't destroyed

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if his teeth aren't destroyed
            chechen cock does that sometimes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        womp womp

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm tired of watching people die.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I shouldn’t have watched that

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shoulda worn a helmet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i really want to know how exactly ukraine is supposed to properly utilize all the random surplus shit the western nations are throwing at them

      like, how do they integrate a dozen vastly different vehicles into their supply chains??? the US sends Bradleys and the UK sends Challanger 2s, how does this increase the capabilities of the Ukranian forces? When will these new units be ready for combat? Training a competent tank-crew takes years!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      has russia managed to blow up even a single himars yet?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, multiple according to Russia. The US neither confirms nor denies.

        But then again, the US has yet to confirm how many B-52 bombers it really lost during Operation Linebacker II.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Yes, multiple according to Russia.
          So none in reality?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes goy not a single ukranian soldier has died

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              who has ever made that argument you gay retard? the problem is that russia consistently lies and overstates their kills, in some cases completely fabricating kills such as how they supposedly killed 600 Ukrainians in Kramatorsk by hitting an empty patch of land; or how they've destroyed every HIMARS; or how they've already destroyed Bradlys despite them not being there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                if you get to be retarded then so do it

                6 gorillion dead russians

                not a single dead ukranian

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > not a single dead ukranian
                Again, who is making that argument?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you argument is that everything the russians say is a lie, and the russians say they have killed ukranian soldiers so that must be a lie, just like they say they've destroyed himars

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > you argument is that everything the russians say is a lie, and the russians say they have killed ukranian soldiers so that must be a lie, just like they say they've destroyed himars

                You are actually retarded. My argument like I said in

                who has ever made that argument you gay retard? the problem is that russia consistently lies and overstates their kills, in some cases completely fabricating kills such as how they supposedly killed 600 Ukrainians in Kramatorsk by hitting an empty patch of land; or how they've destroyed every HIMARS; or how they've already destroyed Bradlys despite them not being there.

                is that Russia is an unreliable source that consistently lies about its kill count, purposely inflating their kill count, not that they have never killed a Ukrainian. Just show me proof they have wiped out 100% of the HIMARs in Ukraine because that is what Russia claims; just show me proof that Russia has already destroyed Bradlys because that is what Russia claims; just show me proof that Russia killed 600 in Kramatorsk with a missile strike because that is what Russia claims. We have proof to the contrary for all of those so that’s how I know Russia lies about its kill count. Russia has killed Ukrainians just not as many as they claim.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only a retarded vatmoron is capable of mental gymnastics like this.

                why am i even bothering with you people?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                don't play the put-upon rational actor you silly moron, you're the one making the strawman arguments and deliberately ignoring genuine responses

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only a retarded vatmoron is capable of mental gymnastics like this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Victory in this war seem an issue of artillery supply. Soldiers are just the people that haul around the guns. Ukraine has access to the global shell manufacturing capacity even if their own industry was destroyed. It isn't just NATO, they are getting shells from the third world and east asia. Literally reverse Lord of war

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >3 more weeks

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They could, but transport helis are at the very bottom of their priority list.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, mostly as rear echelon transport for high priority persons and medical evacuations.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Helicopters are AAA bait in this conflict because neither side can into combined arms warfare.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda, though nothing near the front, still contested airspace.
    Compared to the other sorts of systems like armor and arty, it's not as important.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Logistics helos
    >Can transport shit and medevac
    Yes

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, because russian su-57s would shoot them down

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those things are crazy, as soon as they leave Russian airspace they go stealth mode, and it's so good nobody has ever seen them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just need the wood screws to hold out

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You kids will be so fucking surprised if you ever end up in military.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          indeed, you kids would be

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >someone saved my armatard asspain image and filename
            based

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          one isnt claiming to be a 5th gen fighter

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm no expert on old tools but that looks a lot like my Miller Falls 2A. I prefer an egg beater over a power drill for some drilling tasks, mistakes happen a lot slower with hand tools.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            God, I hate Australians so much.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Posts a non-stealth fighter from decades ago
          > to try and defend a "stealth fighter" with exposed fucking philips

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all 2 of them?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ye just like the 100 they had. They out of them any moment now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2 is enough to subdue xoxols

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bait/10

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Roughly 90–110 kills and several dozen damaged are attributed to Strela-2/2M hits between April 1972 and the Fall of Saigon in April 1975, almost all against helicopters and propeller-driven aircraft. As in the War of Attrition, the missile's speed and range proved insufficient against fast jets and results were poor: only one U.S A-4 Skyhawk, one U.S F-4 Phantom and three South Vietnamese F-5 Freedom Fighter are known to have been shot down with Strela-2s during the conflict.
    You'll have to pump them out but yes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Vietnamese self reporting
      kek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >self-reporting
        Obviously posted by someone who hasn't read about the Vietnam War.

        OH-6s were the worst. I've heard reports of units being sent helicopters before they lost any. One of the first things you were taught was how to pick a good crash landing spot. You could get shot down, rescued one day and be flying a brand new helicopter the next. Apparently they sent out some helicopters without even putting proper unit markings on them because they were given them an hour before a mission was to start. Pilots would report coming over some trees and ducking into a clearing, startling a Vietnamese man who would begin shooting at them from less than 10 meters away, then flipping them the bird and flying away.

        Those figures really aren't a joke anon.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The numbers were from Vietnamese self reporting. Is there video? Anything to corroborate the strela shootdowns?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Retard. The vietnam war had almost as many MANPADS shootdowns as the Russo-afghan war. The strela hit American helis almost as hard as stinger hit Russians

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Could Ukrainians make use of Hueys?
    Because they worked so well for Americans?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They did. It's an excellent helicopter that's served around the world in many countries and continues to do so even today.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They got owned by a bunch of Vietnamese.
        How do you think they would fair against a modern military force?
        They're an easy target.
        Wait, is this a Dennis thread? Am I being baited?
        For fucks sake, Dennis..

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They owned a whole lot than a much more. Although nobody's used them in a combat role for decades now.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Although nobody's used them in a combat role for decades now.
            Gee, I wonder why...
            Someone bring up the stats.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because US developed a new class of helicopters as a replacement. Was this supposed to be some gotcha moment right now?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't have them to hand, but about 5500 (ish).
              That's a record that will never be beaten. I think it's the world leader in 'shot down by peasants'.
              Anyone stupid enough to suggest that they should be deployed to Ukraine should enlist in the US army. They'll feel right at home.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                way to tell everyone you're underage

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because other helicopters exist you tard

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Huey is completely fine. It's still in widespread use and UH-1 derived helicopters are still in use all over the world in the Bell 200 and 400 series of helicopters. Only an idiot would say that a reliable and widespread utility helicopter is bad.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They got owned by a bunch of Vietnamese
          Oh really?
          >In 1995, the Vietnamese government released its estimate of war deaths for the more lengthy period of 1955–75. PAVN and VC losses were reported as 1.1 million dead
          >1.1 million dead

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Muh K/D ratio
            Yeah absolutely true, just like ghost of kyeev shot down 40 aircraft and million russians dead while 10 ukrainian deaths.
            Out of all things, this war has proved that numbers that media publishes are literally inflated horseshit and propaganda that should be disregarded in every conflict that involves western powers

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes, the reality is wrong and puccia is truly stronk and doesn't just show it to us

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >numbers that media publishes

              https://i.imgur.com/J2pYJNc.gif

              >They got owned by a bunch of Vietnamese
              Oh really?
              >In 1995, the Vietnamese government released its estimate of war deaths for the more lengthy period of 1955–75. PAVN and VC losses were reported as 1.1 million dead
              >1.1 million dead

              >Vietnamese government released its estimate of war deaths
              Just because (You) think you're *pretending* doesn't mean that (You) aren't.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tbh if the ukraine war stretched on for 20 years I could easily see 1 million dead being the final number. That's only 50k per year

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Losses in Vietnam were extremely asymmetric though, while in Ukraine they are nearly 1 for 1 (probably closer to 1 to 2 in Ukraine's favor considering russia's human wave tactics).

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. It's an effective, battle tested helicopter that is cheap, powerful, can carry a USMC squad and is just generally a good helicopter.

        Of the 1970s, mind you. A Black Hawk would spank it but it isn't a Black Hawk.

        They got owned by a bunch of Vietnamese.
        How do you think they would fair against a modern military force?
        They're an easy target.
        Wait, is this a Dennis thread? Am I being baited?
        For fucks sake, Dennis..

        >owned by a bunch of Vietnamese
        Literally any helicopter flying below 1,000 ft is vulnerable to being shot at anon. A lot of Hueys died because their pilots or engines were shot out with machine guns.

        >How do you think they would fair against a modern military force?
        Same with Black Hawks, fine as long as you realize they're extremely fragile things that you can't have the enemy directing effective fire at.

        >Wait, is this a Dennis thread?
        No, this isn't a Dennis thread. He's far more annoying.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They actually did, as an initial jump into the airborne cavalry style of war, they presented a huge improvement in the rate of deployed forces and recovered wounded.
      Of all the things that didn't work out as planned in Vietnam, the UH-1 was not one of them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s true. The Bell family were huge donors to LBJ.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unironically, yes

      They got owned by a bunch of Vietnamese.
      How do you think they would fair against a modern military force?
      They're an easy target.
      Wait, is this a Dennis thread? Am I being baited?
      For fucks sake, Dennis..

      i will put it this way
      what changed in modern helicopters that made them more viable?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We no longer fly Helis into AA rich environments. That's what changed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          which isn’t a difference in the helicopters themselves
          which is the point i was trying to make

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, currently mi8 from allies took the place of very old mi24, if it reliable it will be useful.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. but not for combat. At most casevac in areas that they've already secured, if for whatever reason moving the person by land isn't possible, and dropping in supplies. But it's a utility helicopter so they can use it like you normally use utility helicopters.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What sort of waves do they get in the Black Sea? Does Ivan surf?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What people don't understand is that you can use helicopters as fast trucks that go over rivers and difficult terrain if you have a decent pilot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Absolute Chad pilot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A blackhawk would be cheaper and more reliable to maintain at this point. My local police department got rid of theirs 10 years ago because parts were becoming unobtanium.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    these things were shot down like flies over Vietnam

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They'd be great in logistical roles.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Of course. Especially in the numbers countries have them in reserve. Bell makes enough replacement parts to sustain their use, also.

    I little bit like m113 variants are the inevitable platform that will be used for most things, I think hueys will end up being the helo. It's just a matter of the West waking up to what they have fucking heaps of.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't airframe wear make old helos worse than old APCs?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bell makes new airframes and the modern equivalent of the HU-1 is still produced. The point is there is enough quantity out there available if need be.

        More attention needs to be paid to what the UK just did with their aid package.

        They bought foreign hardware from friendly non-nato states, and probably in sufficient numbers to be useful. That's how we have to think. If we are replacing warsaw pact stuff with Western, all well and good, but we should be supplying ENOUGH Western, with lots of instructions on how to modify it to work with whatever possible configuration of weapons Ukraine may wish to use.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We don't have any Hueys, all the remaining inventory got upgrades to Super Hueys awhile back.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are ukranian pilots insane enough to utilise Kiowa's?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are kidding right?
    They'd get shot down by Russian anti-air.
    This would go worse than the M113s that we gave them.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is what we are missing from the cold war set.

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