Could Tornado-S become as useful as Himars if Russia launches enough military satellites into orbit?

Could Tornado-S become as useful as Himars if Russia launches enough military satellites into orbit?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    could russia just cease to exist?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, because it's bad at the scoot part of shoot and scoot. It's just a new take on a discount SCUD.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Does it take longer to get into a firing configuration and vice versa or something?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it takes an eternity to reload because pallets scare turdies.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    EIGHT WHEELS
    8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8
    WHEELS

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is the engine deck so comically gigantic...
    Does it even benefit from good power to weight ratio?
    Or is it just BIG ENGINE STRONK (but it sucks)

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As a future customer I would be afraid of Russia forgetting to pay their satellite bill and all my guided rockets wouldn't work anymore.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >glonASS
    >accurate to 5-10m

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's a reason everything we recover from the ziggers uses glorious american GPS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/oFVvR1l.gif

      >accurate to 5-10m

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >accurate to 5-10m

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If Russia had any kind of reconnaissance and the 5-10 meters were factual, it would be very useful.
    Pound for pound it is vastly inferior to HIMARS, but it's a bigger system with bigger missiles, so it would be a threat and a priority target.
    Having to reload the fricking barrels individually with a crane is just comical though.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >glonass
    then it's useless
    even russians don't use this shit, if strapping a garmin GPS to your fighter plane is considered a better choice than using GLONAS it only means your navigation system is a pile of garbage

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I thought glonass was used to hit the himars and patriot recently? Maybe they upgraded their systems? Idfk.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >they keep pushing the destroyed patriot narrative after it getting destroyed repeatedly
    Holy frick, update your metodichkas already.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >pushing the destroyed patriot narrative after it getting destroyed repeatedly
      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/29089

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And? I'm talking about the "patriot" that was an rm-70 mlrs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That link doesn't prove your point Ramesh. You should read these things first. You can't rely on your handler for everything. No rupee for this one !

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Tornado-s is already better. Russia is taking towns and pushing nato mercenaries out of donbas for a reason.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i don't get it
    is this a humor thread or cringe thread?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    EIGHT WEEELSSSS

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >as useful
    Nah. It isn't as versatile. Tubes are fixed and reloaded individually. Means it's slow, logistically demanding, more dangerous. Also means you can't just leave a POD with 6x GMLRS or 1x ATACMS or 20x 130mm in forest for quick surprise.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A smerch volley is like 5 himars volleys in terms of payload so it balances out
      Btw sticking around to reload is pretty much the last thing you want to do with either system. The entire point is to blow a single load and gtfo

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >A smerch volley is like 5 himars volleys in terms of payload so it balances out
        >Btw sticking around to reload is pretty much the last thing you want to do with either system. The entire point is to blow a single load and gtfo
        THIS

        and, because the Ruzzian one has a crane to self load, in theory, *reloads bundles of rockets* could be pre-dropped at safe re-load zones, where could replenish, then fire again (repeat) without needing a full other vehicle+team to manage in the loop

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Smerch doesn't have a crane, only its dedicated reloading vehicle does. HIMARS has a crane. And it replaces the entire 6-pack launch container in one go, taking like five minutes to Smerch having to reload every rocket one by one over like an hour.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >A smerch volley is like 5 himars volleys in terms of payload so it balances out
      >Btw sticking around to reload is pretty much the last thing you want to do with either system. The entire point is to blow a single load and gtfo
      THIS

      and, because the Ruzzian one has a crane to self load, in theory, *reloads bundles of rockets* could be pre-dropped at safe re-load zones, where could replenish, then fire again (repeat) without needing a full other vehicle+team to manage in the loop

      >because the Ruzzian one has a crane to self load,
      why does it have another vehicle with a crane loading it of it can self load?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >military satellites
    I don't think satellites are the problem. Russia just doesn't like spending money on precision weapons or it's corruption or they can't make or get the electronic components to make the damn things. simple answer they should just biy chinese or best korean

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      US learned their lesson in nam, Russia never had this chance until 2022. I believe the understand power of precision now and will move this way

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When they'll learn the lesson that Imperialism doesn't work and coerced alliances and economic dependence give much bigger control and influence than primitive force?

        They could've had the entire Europe on it's gas hook and they wouldn't say a thing unless the constant chimp-outs and moronic Nuke Ze Londonz dementia.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Imperialism doesn't work and coerced alliances and economic dependence give much bigger control and influence than primitive force?
          Like the American Empire and the "interventions" in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria? I dont think anyone is convinced force doesnt work.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >9A53-S tornado
    >Accurate to 5-10m
    I'd believe 50-100m giving Russia's "Accuracy" with other missiles.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it was a typo: they missed the k before the m

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Accurate to 5 to 10 MeterS

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not just a matter of satellites. Western GPS munitions are actually GPS/INS, using INS as the primary means of guidance and checking GPS as they travel in order to correct for inaccuracies in the INS coordinates.

    Military-grade INS has come a *long* way from the '70s and '80s, and can get you within 10m from 100km+ away. So, even if somebody shot down the satellites, a lot of munitions would still be able to guide themselves to a target (although the launch platform might have to figure out *its* coordinates first). It's also system-on-chip, making it relatively affordable.

    Russia has trouble producing INS with similar accuracy, reliability, or cost. That's a far greater issue for them than an insufficient number of satellites.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >system-on-chip
      This is what they took from you

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >GLONASS (accurate to 5-10m*)
    >*Projected accuracy of 4G GLONASS system [coming 2038]
    >GPS (accurate to 5-10m**)
    >**During a category S-5 solar flare

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