They don't let you fire off more than a dozen or so Carl G rounds in a day, I imagine blasting off artillery day in and day out probably has similar effects
back during the initial push for Afghanistan, those dudes would be used just to pop house doors and shit. we're talking 30-50 rounds per day. they were just fucking walking zombies. other guys would basically have to tard wrangle them because they were clearly not with it.
lol, of course. A TBI is a must. I'm %100 sure that the DoD knew that ages ago. Also from firing rockets and stuff, but they are like "huh, a grunt with some small brain damage is a small price to pay for the capability of rockets or arty"
>When Javier Ortiz came home from a secret mission in Syria, the ghost of a dead girl appeared to him in his kitchen. She was pale and covered in chalky dust, as if hit by an explosion, and her eyes stared at him with a glare as dark and heavy as oil. >The 21-year-old Marine was part of an artillery gun crew that fought against the Islamic State, and he knew that his unit’s huge cannons had killed hundreds of enemy fighters. The ghost, he was sure, was their revenge. >A shiver went through him. He backed into another room in his apartment near Camp Pendleton in California and flicked on the lights, certain that he was imagining things. She was still there.
clear cut case of a ghost haunting you for killing her.
don't kill babies if you don't want them to haunt you
>When Lance Corporal Ortiz started seeing a ghost a few days after returning from Syria in 2017, it didn’t occur to him that he had been hurt by his own cannon. Instead, he was convinced that the enemy had put a hex on him. >He tried to purify himself by lighting a fire on the beach near Camp Pendleton and burning his old combat gloves and journal from the deployment. But after the ashes cooled, the ghost was still there.
tfw magick doesn't banish the ghosts haunting you
>One Friday night in October 2020, he was having visions that ghosts were trying to pull him into another dimension. He stretched out naked on his kitchen floor, hoping that the cool touch of the tiles would restore his grip on reality. It didn’t work. In a panic, he called a cousin who had served in Iraq. His cousin said that what always worked for his P.T.S.D. was marijuana.
dudeweed lmao
Weed helps a fuckload with PTSD. Alcohol only helps if you get it in you in the short window between forming the memories short-term before they become long-term.
>”hurt by his own cannon” >starts “hallucinating” and seeing a specific figure over and over again >only starts after he gets back from deployment
If artillery crews from past conflicts haven’t reported similar events, then there’s something more going on here than just getting his dome rattled. maybe even the chemicals in the propellant they use could be a contributing factor.
Its not an extraordinary claim that brain damage can cause psychotic symptoms. It even has a name. PDTBI or Psychotic Disorder Due to Traumatic Brain Injury.
>hey man, you can't fire the Carl G more than six times because it will melt your brain >yeah man, firing hundreds of rounds of charge 8 is fine, don't be a pussy
The military already knows, they just don't want to admit fault. As for back in the day, you choke your wife unconscious three times a week and have hallucinations every other night and nobody would talk about it.
Then add in the chemicals from the charge firing off you inhale in copious amounts, its just wonderful and gets even the 2 packs a day smokers feeling it
the wife is a real trooper. if a guy these days even looks at his wife wrong she’s filing for divorce and taking a cab to the ghetto to get a train ran on her by every nagger on the block and block over.
Obviously the shit being fired now is an entire dimension away from the artillery of the past, but even then odds are the guys around back in the day experienced similar things. Nobody just ever talked about it so it was chalked up to uncle whoever just being his quirky self, binge drinking and maybe a touch of wife and kid beating or two.
>military struggled to understand what is wrong
I love this complete denial >blasts cause TBI >TBI fucks you up for life >admitting this means taking care of people you sent to get it instead of leaving them to die in the gutter >pretend you have no idea >let them die in the gutter
I honestly have no idea why anyone with a triple digit IQ would ever sign up.
The ones who have that IQ always go to shit like intel, IT, nuke, air force, maybe medical, etc. And if you have those options available then why would you ever go with the artillery route?
No, artillerymen need to be good at digging holes where they're told, carrying shells where they're told, pointing guns where they're told, loading guns when they're told and pulling a cord when they're told. Artillery soldiers could be the thickest people alive and still do a fantastic job. Anything related to artillery that requires more than room temperature IQ and a pulse is done by officers or computers.
>The ones who have that IQ always go to shit like intel, IT, nuke, air force, maybe medical, etc
That's all good and well but what about when they setup a burn pit upwind from you or force experimental medication on you, sure you aren't getting TBI from arty but they will happily fuck you and then pretend they had nothing to do with it.
>When asked about the apparition of the dead girl, he started to cry and lowered his voice so his wife wouldn’t hear. He admitted that he still saw the ghost. And other things.
Don't think so, he is haunted by her, he doesn't appear to be a pervert.
>superstitious Hispanic retard hallucinates ghost girl
These are the same people who all have abuelas that think a room in their house is haunted because it's drafty.
>When Lance Corporal Ortiz started seeing a ghost a few days after returning from Syria in 2017, it didn’t occur to him that he had been hurt by his own cannon. Instead, he was convinced that the enemy had put a hex on him. >He tried to purify himself by lighting a fire on the beach near Camp Pendleton and burning his old combat gloves and journal from the deployment. But after the ashes cooled, the ghost was still there.
tfw magick doesn't banish the ghosts haunting you
He could have just as easily been tweaking from meth, sleep deprivation, new-onset schizophrenia (right age), PTSD with psychotic features, a focal seizure, or any other number of problems. Hallucinations are a common symptom of many disorders (and are often benign, like with sleep deprivation or deep meditation) and while getting your noggin rattled from shelling goat herders day in and day out probably isn't good for it, recently returned soldiers hallucinating could be caused by many, many other things.
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Guys, this is NOT how hallucinations act.
It's common for schizophrenics to photograph their hallucinations and see them in the pictures or videos. Some hallucinations will be there when you fall asleep and greet you when you wake up. In early psychosis, almost all people will suspect to some degree that they're hallucinating and almost universally their cannot prove what they see isn't real. Picrel a schizophrenic's drawing of her hallucination. She claims it follows her around for most of the day.
The stuff you see from shrooms or acid are pseudohallucinations - they usually don't persist unless focused on, don't appear to interact with the environment, fairly easy to manipulate with the mine, and the person's first impression is that the image is fake. True hallucinations are usually indicative of true brain disfunction instead of a transient disturbance like with hippie drugs. True hallucinations, delusions, and irrational behavior are often seen near death as the brain shuts down with the body in a state termed delirium. You can experience false realities just as real, and often realer than what everyone else sees, but your brain has to be truly fucked for that to happen.
i think its probably not ptsd but just schizophrenia. the first episode is usually when people in their late teens or early twens are suddenly put under pressure. typical case is young guy finishing high school, moving out from home, moving to other part of the country for universtiy, university being hard, everything is new and strange, no friends, no family -->develops psychosis
very often the delusions have some religious motive especially when the patient is very religious. when not the delusional ideas are often about stuff that is in the news.
>le schizophrenia meme
schizophrenia isn't a magical, progressive disease with a higher incidence than every other psychosocial disorder whenever convenient.
TBI induced psychosis doesn't have early warning signs, you either have it or you don't.
you don't present as classic schizophrenia.
also, how people cope with delusions and hallucinations comes down to their ability to self-regulate their own thoughts.
it takes a high degree of intelligence, understanding of epistomology, and discipline to cope and perform your own cognitive behavioral therapy without outside intervention.
most people simply don't even know where to start when they experience delusions for the first time, and many bookies such as yourself encourage the popular conception that it is a progressive, incurable disease with a purely physical or genetic cause, instead of a recursive positive symptom spiral, and it can be cognitively managed if confronted early, before the spiral consumes the mind and ends all rationality.
Ehhhhhhh it really doesn't seem that way. Like you said, schizophrenia isn't gradated, you either have it or you don't. There's no pre-schizophrenia and it seems that past childhood there aren't any risk factors that make you more or less likely to get schizophrenia, but rather just make you get it sooner or later. The "progression" of schizophrenia isn't really in symptoms but just how much you've fucked up your life. If you have psychosis for a day you'll probably skip work and do something silly. Worst case scenario you lose your job but you could probably come up with a decent excuse or have the wherewithal to call in sick. A year of psychosis and you'll be on the street unless you have someone taking care of you cleaning after you.
There's really no way you can "think" your way out of schizophrenia though. In fact, schizophrenics have markedly higher IQs on average and many are geniuses. Very recent research has identified a number of genes in schizophrenics and it looks like they sit in three pots. If you have the "light" genes, you will likely respond very well to treatment and live essentially symptom free. I've spoken to psychiatrists about this subgroup of patients and the goal of care is full return of function and to live a completely normal life. The second group of genes is the "moderate" pot and the goal for these patients is to be stable. They will not respond completely to medication and will struggle in day-to-day life. They usually need support from family and tend to work simple jobs. Similarly, they have few friends and struggle socially. Psychiatrists aim to prevent hospitalization in these patients, and most will have a number of psychiatric hospitalizations in their life. The final group is the "severe" group of genes. They will have little response to meds, go off their meds regularly, at very high risk for being homeless, the victims of violent crime and sexual assault, and life drastically shorter lives. Cont.
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cont.
These people never work, never hold romantic relationships, never have friends, and pretty much aren't part of society. These are the crazy homeless people. They also almost universally use hard drugs. The link between these different genes and the outcomes of schizophrenia were very strong, and it seems soon genetic testing will determine someone's fate when they receive a schizophrenia diagnosis.
Therapy, or rationalizing as you put it, can help schizophrenia, but it can only be treated with drugs. The point of therapy is typically to cope with symptoms and help patients understand the world in terms they can understand, particularly with things like relationships. The whole schizophrenia dogma gets harder to understand with similar sounding conditions, like schizoaffective disorder, which is pretty much schizophrenia lite, schizotypical personality disorder, which is defined by strange beliefs and social difficulty without psychosis and schizod personality disorder, which has nothing to do with schizophrenia. All of these respond to therapy and can't be helped with medication, which leads people to believing that schizophrenia proper can be treated with only therapy or that you can "think your way out of it". You really can't. A schizophrenic brain looks different on scans and the cells look different under a microscope. It is truly a biological disease of the mind, and hopefully one we'll understand much better in coming decades.
t. doctor
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Anonymous
>t. doctor
Doubt.
Post your MD wall scroll or gtfo with your schizotypical ramblings.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ehhhhhhh it really doesn't seem that way. Like you said, schizophrenia isn't gradated, you either have it or you don't. There's no pre-schizophrenia and it seems that past childhood there aren't any risk factors that make you more or less likely to get schizophrenia, but rather just make you get it sooner or later. The "progression" of schizophrenia isn't really in symptoms but just how much you've fucked up your life. If you have psychosis for a day you'll probably skip work and do something silly. Worst case scenario you lose your job but you could probably come up with a decent excuse or have the wherewithal to call in sick. A year of psychosis and you'll be on the street unless you have someone taking care of you cleaning after you.
There's really no way you can "think" your way out of schizophrenia though. In fact, schizophrenics have markedly higher IQs on average and many are geniuses. Very recent research has identified a number of genes in schizophrenics and it looks like they sit in three pots. If you have the "light" genes, you will likely respond very well to treatment and live essentially symptom free. I've spoken to psychiatrists about this subgroup of patients and the goal of care is full return of function and to live a completely normal life. The second group of genes is the "moderate" pot and the goal for these patients is to be stable. They will not respond completely to medication and will struggle in day-to-day life. They usually need support from family and tend to work simple jobs. Similarly, they have few friends and struggle socially. Psychiatrists aim to prevent hospitalization in these patients, and most will have a number of psychiatric hospitalizations in their life. The final group is the "severe" group of genes. They will have little response to meds, go off their meds regularly, at very high risk for being homeless, the victims of violent crime and sexual assault, and life drastically shorter lives. Cont.
You either subscribe to the cognitive model of psychiatric disease, or you don't.
Based on what you've written, you don't. So by what model do you base your reply?
Psychiatry is one of the weakest fields when it comes to evidence-based medicine, to the point that it's largely regarded as a joke compared to other specialties.
Our disease models do not model the psychiatric disease in humans, in fact we don't even have true disease models, just pseudo-philosophy.
Most of the medications do not perform significantly better than placebo.
Psychiatry has the worst disparity between individual providers providing successful treatments of all specialties.
Cognitive behavioral therapy on the other hand, performs just as well as medication for nearly all forms of mild to moderate illnesses, if not better depending on what data you look at, with none of the side effects of psychiatric medication.
Cognitive behavioral therapy is not coddling or handholding sessions, it is work.
There is no "thinking your way out of it." The fundamental train of thought is changed through the process.
Not the 'What'. Not the 'Why', or even the 'How'.
You correct in that severe cases have the kitchen sink thrown at them, but that is not any different than any other field of medicine. Overtreatment is never treated as malpractice. People want "everything possible" done for them even when we know that these treatments are harmful and have little chance of success, and will only keep you alive with a very low quality of life.
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Anonymous
>You either subscribe to the cognitive model of psychiatric disease, or you don't.
Homie in what world can something as complex as the human mind only be explainable by one model, and you have to pick between competing models that all don't explain the problem completely? All psychiatric diseases have a cognitive component. All psychiatric diseases also have a biologic, environmental, and social component. There is nothing suggesting that a mental illness cannot stem from both a cognitive and biological problem, and it is pretty illogical to think that every mental health problem has to fit into a single rigid model of pathology (or that all have to fit in the same model, as you're suggesting). Take depression, for example. Depression is primarily a cognitive problem - it is a disorder characterized by ruminating thoughts of self-worthlessness, guilt, blame, disinterest in hobbies and socialization, and often a belief that one cannot or will not get better. The best treatment for depression hands down is cognitive behavioral therapy, which I know is not "coddling". Patients are left with a lot of work both in and out of therapy and it is only effective if they do that work consistently. But depression is not just a cognitive problem. It is mostly a cognitive problem, but not 100%. Children separated from birth with biological parents who had depression are more likely to get depression. Genes have been associated with depression. People who live in the extreme north and south, where there is very little sunlight for half the year, are more likely to develop depression. People in abusive households are more likely to develop depression. Poor people are more likely to develop depression. There is no one mode of disease - cognitive, biological, social, environmental, etc - that can explain it completely for any mental health disorder.
Cont.
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Cont
Overtreatment is a problem and it is malpractice, although it reaches the legal threshold of malpractice less often than undertreatment. For schizophrenia, medication is the only treatment that works to relieve psychosis. Schizophrenics are extremely prone to develop cognitions and behaviors that cause distress or disfunction, and this is where CBT can be helpful, but therapy cannot fix psychosis.
>Cognitive behavioral therapy on the other hand, performs just as well as medication for nearly all forms of mild to moderate illnesses, if not better depending on what data you look at, with none of the side effects of psychiatric medication.
Yes, this is true is PREDOMINANTLY COGNITIVE DISORDERS. CBT is first line treatment is depression, anxiety, phobias, PTSD (although the MDMA augmented psychotherapy data is very encouraging), personality disorders, eating disorders, etc. Schizophrenia is not a predominantly cognitive disorder. It is a predominantly biologic disorder. Psychologists have tried treating schizophrenia with therapy only, and every kind of therapy, for decades. The patient's don't get better, the voices don't go away. To your point where it's the best therapy for mild and moderate, the severe cases usually have a mixed modality i.e. severe depression is cognitive but also biological, and in these cases therapy and medication is most useful.
(As an aside, doctors do recommend therapy - they could do it more but they do recommend it for disorders in which it would help. Patients don't go because insurance won't cover it, because they can't get an hour off of work each week, and because therapy takes a lot of work and they don't want to do it)
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Part of the definition of psychosis is "a strongly held false belief that does not fit within cultural or religious norms and cannot be dissuaded in the face of overwhelming evidence". The schizophrenic brain cannot be convinced, that's what makes it schizophrenic. In mild schizophrenia, the appropriate treatment may be a low dose mild antipsychotic with therapy as needed. In severe, the "kitchen sink" may be a high dose strong antipsychotic with an additional antipsychotic that employs a different mechanism of action, therapy once or more a week, and a safety plan to hospitalize the patient early in a psychotic episode. The invention of the first antipsychotic, chlorpromazine, was the first time in history we saw people leave asylums. Although chlorpromazine was a barbaric drug due to it's side effects (and is no longer used today), it allowed for some schizophrenics in asylums to control their voices and delusions rather than simply being locked away for their safety (and the convince of society).
I could explain what is wrong in the brain with a schizophrenic, how the drugs work, and how a shot or a pill can make voices disappear, but at this point I want to know what your source is? Did it come to you in a dream? Although it is not my specialty, many of the patients I see have mental health problems and I make treatment decisions for mental health disorders every day. It's something I'm passionate about because taking care of your body works better than any pill I have, and mental health disorders keep people from taking care of themselves. People with mental health disorders get sick and die at a much higher rate than those without, so to me mental health is just as important or maybe more than things like blood pressure or cholesterol.
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Anonymous
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22189047/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22815247/
for psychotherapy and antidepressants both demonstrating efficacy as monotherapy or in combination
draw your own conclusions, but in most fields if a medication isn't superior to what amounts to a shaman doing voodoo, it isn't considered effective. in psych this is fine though.
also, i don't disagree with you necessarily, i am just pointing out that our understanding of mental illness is incredibly poor and it's a joke how so many doctors pretend we have curative treatments for these illnesses when we do not. without understanding the pathogenesis (which even the larger organizations like NICE and APA handwave away saying it's everything and we can't accurately model it), psych is currently stuck in 1800s medicine, a lot of physician gestalt, and blowing smoke up people's asses.
it's irresponsible for physicians to prescribe these medications without explaining to a patient that it isn't magic and isn't going to solve their problems for them, because that's what many patients actually believe.
i often see in practice is other providers telling their patients to "remove the stressor" as if that's a readily available option and otherwise piling on pharmacotherapy as a band-aid while they pathologize any instance of anxiety or depression as a disorder instead being part of the normal course of life.
on a side note, neurology is not psych, so let's not confuse the two fields.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18621509/
pharmacotherapy has an overestimated effect because the negative findings simply aren't published. there's also studies that show psychotherapy is garbage and doesn't work.
the lack of reproducability overall of results is a huge problem in psych, we have so many contradictory results that are largely explained by bias and open label designs, but therein lies the problem, how do you perform any type of therapy without an open label design?
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>Cognitive behavioral therapy is not coddling or handholding sessions, it is work.
"Cognitive behavioral therapy" is about teaching cluster B people how to better mimic mentally healthy people so they can become better predators. It doesnt make them stop being psychopaths, narcississists, borderliners or histrionics. Its one of the great medical scams of our age, literally marxism applied to medicine.
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cont.
These people never work, never hold romantic relationships, never have friends, and pretty much aren't part of society. These are the crazy homeless people. They also almost universally use hard drugs. The link between these different genes and the outcomes of schizophrenia were very strong, and it seems soon genetic testing will determine someone's fate when they receive a schizophrenia diagnosis.
Therapy, or rationalizing as you put it, can help schizophrenia, but it can only be treated with drugs. The point of therapy is typically to cope with symptoms and help patients understand the world in terms they can understand, particularly with things like relationships. The whole schizophrenia dogma gets harder to understand with similar sounding conditions, like schizoaffective disorder, which is pretty much schizophrenia lite, schizotypical personality disorder, which is defined by strange beliefs and social difficulty without psychosis and schizod personality disorder, which has nothing to do with schizophrenia. All of these respond to therapy and can't be helped with medication, which leads people to believing that schizophrenia proper can be treated with only therapy or that you can "think your way out of it". You really can't. A schizophrenic brain looks different on scans and the cells look different under a microscope. It is truly a biological disease of the mind, and hopefully one we'll understand much better in coming decades.
t. doctor
Schizophrenia is related both to physical abberations in the brain combined with an inability to metabolize kynueric acid. The fraction of the population that have these physical abberations without the triggering factor is pretty large, perhaps 20-25% in north euros and 40-50% in middle eastern populations. Consumption of THC triggers the formation of neural abberations in the brain and should be avoided. The reason as for some people get fucked up quick by THC and others do not is probably related to if they have these schizo phyiscal abberations already or not.
If you are ex military and have problems slowing down or falling asleep, buy lithium orotate supplementation. If you can get a prescription, do not take zolpidem or benzos, they give you shit sleep and are difficult to stop using for almost everyone. Get pergabaline instead, it gives you great sleep and is quite easy to stop using for almost all people. Only downside is the long time of action.
There is no treatment to fix schizophrenia, although its theoretically possible. Medications are only to make them passive and easily manageable. Treatments like electroshock literally destroys brains. Its used to semiparalyze schizos by giving them brain trauma.
Do not trust you doctor unless you are competent enough to understand if he is LARPing or if he is a real doctor. Remember that these people mass sucided by injecting themselves and their families with the covid vaccines despite having an education that should have informed them that these vaccines would never work. Its not just that these vaccines cause exotic side effects, its also that they cause original antigenic sin, aka misfitting imprinting of the immune system, a feature of the immune system known since the 1960s but apparently forgotten by american immunologists despite being considering basic knowledge across the entire world. So fuck these people and their paper degrees.
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Anonymous
What the fuck is an aberration? Do you have ghosts in your head?
In any case you are retarded. Enjoy your lithium poisoning, it’s normally an uphill battle to talk bipolar people into eating metal but you seem to do it recreationally. You also misspelled pregabalin, which when you inevitably get a kidney injury from something else retarded will be a fun puzzle for the toxicologist in combination with the lithium overload. GLHF see you at the VA.
The thing that tickles me are the lizardesque physical traits on this thing. Spooks can, according to field reports, selectively chose who can see them. F.ex in one encouter a mixed team of feather injuns and some whiteys encountered "stick indians". Only the injuns could see them. They can sense if you are watching them directly. It is unclear if they can sense if you watch them trough a telescope, reports are mixed. They can't sense if you watch them trough a remote camera.
I have seen so many blowjob parodies of this image, and parodies of those parodies, until you find some FFXIV fanart of a steppe lizard himecut waifu sucking cock under the covers and go "I recognize this pose".
>Steppe lizard
To be fair those steppe lizards are perfect wives unless they have that face that makes them look like they're always about to start crying. God, imagine being a Garlean conscript from the provinces with fresh citizenship assigned to the Domain border with a license to mating press every tribal huntress you catch on the Azim Steppe. Almost makes it worth getting killed by the WoL.
Zoomers are mostly non-white and, as such, raised by single mothers. The fact that they imitate the behavior and idiocy of single women should be no surprise to you as it's the only thing they know for role models. It's the exact same reason zoomers are so anti 2A, because their single mothers were and there was no man in the house to tell her to shut her dumb ass up.
I know Ortiz personally, he is unironically saying this for gibs. Motherfuckers are really out here thinking PTSD is some Hollywood bullshit that causes hallucinations.
Schizophrenia. Also he's hispanic, those primitive fuckers are superstitious to a ridiculous level. He's probably shitting himself over those mexican alien bodies and Ancient Aliens.
If you haven't had a psychotic break, taken serious doses of hallucinogens or dissociatives, or done at least a postgrad course in psychology/psychiatry, don't fucking talk. The brain is 100% capable of making wild shit up if it's not working properly.
Neurological fuckery is on another level compared to psychiatric diagnoses. One is like your motherboard bursting into flames, the other is like playing a shitty broken-on-launch FPS that keeps crashing to the desktop.
If your hardware is fucked, you're fucked. You can always install new software, but you're stuck with your brain until you're dead.
There's a reason the most difficult to treat psychiatric diagnoses also involve the most neurological deviations, too. Thankfully, I don't have to deal with any of this because my brain is already too fucked to join the military to begin with.
A lot of psychiatric disorders have neurological components to them as well, they're just not as understood or obvious. It says a lot about the education of the average person that they think even severe brain damage from TBI is something you can just "power through".
> my brain is already too fucked to join the military to begin with.
nah m8
you'll be ushered right in if you're fucked in the head but unmedicated.
it's not about being too fucked up, the brass is literally just afraid of your pills
>Finding that pattern in living veterans is another matter. There is currently no brain scan or blood test that can detect the minute injuries, Dr. Perl said; the damage can be seen only under microscopes once a service member has died. So there is no definitive way to tell whether a living person is injured. Even if there were, there is no therapy to fix it.
>Alpha battery troops set up their big guns in March 2017 in a dirt field in Syria within sight of the enemy-controlled city of Raqqa and almost immediately started firing. >They rarely stopped for the next two months.
Makes you wonder how the arty men in ww1 fared
Men back then had higher T levels which prevent and heal brain trauma. Do you ever hear about russian artilleryman having visions and breaking down from seeing ghosts? No?
That is because they are not being assfucked with tranny dicks like american men
This is why men who fuck each other in the ass are invincible as discovered by the ancient Thebans. With fresh semen nourishing the soldiers' intestines they will have an endless supply of testosterone and necessary vitamins and nutrients.
We've seen that the Russian military has a culture of ass fucking men that America doesn't have. America allows gay people to serve and gives them some pandering as part of their whole "big nation of disparate groups" ethos, Russia has institutionalized male rape with a rapee caste system. Quit projecting and stop being a homosexual.
>President Donald J. Trump had given the task force broad authority to use heavy firepower, and the task force applied it with savage enthusiasm, often bending the rules to hit not just enemy positions, >but also mosques, schools, dams and power plants. >schools
The dude killed a little girl cowering in school and she's haunting him.
Dunno, sounds like justice to me, don't kill little girls.
https://i.imgur.com/JBvVv5d.jpg
>Brandon Mooney, a Marine from Missouri, came home from Syria with anxiety, sleep paralysis and hallucinations of a black demon. >hallucinations of a black demon. >He was diagnosed with P.T.S.D. but could never understand why.
More /x/ allegations.
I wonder if he posts here, looks like the type.
All you need to know about the NYT article:
> President Donald J. Trump had given the task force broad authority to use heavy firepower, and the task force applied it with savage enthusiasm
Orange man bad, military man evil
> A few gun-crew members were eventually given diagnoses of P.T.S.D., but to the crews that didn’t make much sense. They hadn’t, in most cases, even seen the enemy.
PTSD is unavoidable by being in the marines, it's just too traumatic to fire guns. Guns bad, especially big ones
> His cousin said that what always worked for his P.T.S.D. was marijuana.
Homie Ortiz needs his dope, pay up
> He has two young children, and has struggled to hold a job. Bills have piled up.
You also need to pay for his kids
Typical NYT propaganda, everyone knows concussions are dangerous and can cause permanent damage. That doesn't absolve Mr. Ortiz from being a moron who will cost everyone money regardless of whether he was a marine. How much of the damage was because of his psychoactive drug use, prior issues/mental instability, generally being a retard, or some other idiot behavior?
This article wouldn't have been published if there wasn't the Trump narrative they could slip in, and the TBI doesn't appear to be a broad issue outside of opportunistic rags using it to further their interests.
>In the spring of 2017, two months after coming home from firing thousands of rounds in Iraq, Sgt. First Class Tyler Chatfield went missing in Kentucky. >He was a senior soldier in Charlie Battery of the Army’s 1st Battalion, 320th Field Artillery Regiment. The battery had fired a stunning number of rounds against the Islamic State and then returned to Fort Campbell, Ky., in February 2017, just as the Marines were deploying. >At Fort Campbell, soldiers were struggling to sleep, and were stalked by hard-edged anxiety that sometimes veered into panic. >Everyone was screened for P.T.S.D. and brain injury. The tests showed nothing unusual. >Iraq was Sergeant Chatfield’s third deployment, and his wife knew that homecomings could be rough, but this one seemed OK. He was relaxed, loving, engaged. He was coaching Little League and building a chicken coop in the backyard. >Then one morning he was at the gym and his heart started racing like a jack rabbit. Cold sweat poured down his neck, and he started to vomit. He was sure he was having a heart attack. He was 26 years old. >His wife took him to the hospital but, other than some inflammation, cardiologists found nothing wrong. He went home, and a few days later had another attack. >Maybe it’s anxiety, a doctor suggested; he prescribed Xanax.
>The next few days for the sergeant were quiet. He took his pills and rested. He roasted marshmallows in the backyard with his boys. >Then he was gone. He wasn’t in bed when his wife woke up on the Thursday morning after the attack. He wasn’t at work, either. The Army and local police went out looking for him. >His wife was sure he would show up to coach his sons’ afternoon baseball game. But in the ninth inning, she was still scanning the parking lot. >She felt so uneasy by the end of the game that she asked another soldier to escort her home. The soldier went into the house first and emerged a few minutes later shaking his head. He had found Sergeant Chatfield’s body in the garage, behind a stack of boxes. >The sergeant had taken his own life.
are you paid per word or just OP from yesterday who literally copy/paste the whole article.
because /k/ - /k/opy paste new york times
>Makes you wonder how the arty men in ww1 fared
Terribly. Look up shellshock. A large portion of them went permanently deaf and crippled from it. Not to mention suicides, alcoholism, domestic violence, the lot of it.
I mean, it was the brain damage from the arty AND the brain damage from the malnutrition
[...] >xaxaxaxa all these leaders didn't become dictators and stay in power indefinitely, that means I'm winning.
Poltroon cope never fails to make me laugh
>the joke
here's the (you) homosexual. no idea how there are westerners that can't take the piss out of dictators. why do you think we make them?
Mine too. My mom never even considered PTSD or a TBI until I suggested it to her, just thought the guy was an asshole her whole life, but she also had no idea what he'd been through in the war - he was originally been posted to a non-combat engineer unit and let the family believe he'd spent the whole war building airfields way behind the lines. I found out different when my Grandmother died and I ended up with Grandpa's war stuff, which had his war diary in it, and it revealed that he'd been TDY'd to a combat engineer unit and fought in the Battle of the Bulge with them.
>President Donald J. Trump had given the task force broad authority to use heavy firepower, and the task force applied it with savage enthusiasm, often bending the rules to hit not just enemy positions, >but also mosques, schools, dams and power plants. >schools
The dude killed a little girl cowering in school and she's haunting him.
Dunno, sounds like justice to me, don't kill little girls.
> President Donald J. Trump had given the task force broad authority to use heavy firepower, and the task force applied it with savage enthusiasm
Orange man bad, military man evil
> A few gun-crew members were eventually given diagnoses of P.T.S.D., but to the crews that didn’t make much sense. They hadn’t, in most cases, even seen the enemy.
PTSD is unavoidable by being in the marines, it's just too traumatic to fire guns. Guns bad, especially big ones
> His cousin said that what always worked for his P.T.S.D. was marijuana.
Homie Ortiz needs his dope, pay up
> He has two young children, and has struggled to hold a job. Bills have piled up.
You also need to pay for his kids
Typical NYT propaganda, everyone knows concussions are dangerous and can cause permanent damage. That doesn't absolve Mr. Ortiz from being a moron who will cost everyone money regardless of whether he was a marine. How much of the damage was because of his psychoactive drug use, prior issues/mental instability, generally being a retard, or some other idiot behavior?
This article wouldn't have been published if there wasn't the Trump narrative they could slip in, and the TBI doesn't appear to be a broad issue outside of opportunistic rags using it to further their interests.
Kek, even here the media has to take a shot at Trump. What exactly did he do to shatter them so hard?
Laughed at them. That's all it took, they really viewed themselves as unassailable truth-deciding kingmakers and him blowing them off and making fun of them caused such significant ego damage that the spoiled little babies never recovered.
You know it's just a way for them to slip in unsourced claims that Trump was a bad evil man for winning against mudslimes while Obama was ineffective against them.
>Brandon Mooney, a Marine from Missouri, came home from Syria with anxiety, sleep paralysis and hallucinations of a black demon. >hallucinations of a black demon. >He was diagnosed with P.T.S.D. but could never understand why.
More /x/ allegations.
I wonder if he posts here, looks like the type.
> President Donald J. Trump had given the task force broad authority to use heavy firepower, and the task force applied it with savage enthusiasm
Orange man bad, military man evil
> A few gun-crew members were eventually given diagnoses of P.T.S.D., but to the crews that didn’t make much sense. They hadn’t, in most cases, even seen the enemy.
PTSD is unavoidable by being in the marines, it's just too traumatic to fire guns. Guns bad, especially big ones
> His cousin said that what always worked for his P.T.S.D. was marijuana.
Homie Ortiz needs his dope, pay up
> He has two young children, and has struggled to hold a job. Bills have piled up.
You also need to pay for his kids
Typical NYT propaganda, everyone knows concussions are dangerous and can cause permanent damage. That doesn't absolve Mr. Ortiz from being a moron who will cost everyone money regardless of whether he was a marine. How much of the damage was because of his psychoactive drug use, prior issues/mental instability, generally being a retard, or some other idiot behavior?
This article wouldn't have been published if there wasn't the Trump narrative they could slip in, and the TBI doesn't appear to be a broad issue outside of opportunistic rags using it to further their interests.
>and the TBI doesn't appear to be a broad issue outside of opportunistic rags using it to further their interests.
I hope that in 20 years when TBI in military service is seen as just as serious as TBI in football, you're forced to publicly read out and explain this post. You're a disgusting individual and people like yourself are responsible for causing others severe harm.
I wish some of the old anons from Fallujah were here to correct retards like you. Sadly a lot of them are probably now dead.
>PTSD is unavoidable by being in the marines, it's just too traumatic to fire guns. Guns bad, especially big ones
They've known about this. You are limited to the number of SMAW and CG rounds you can fire in a day. I remember reading a similar article about assaultmen.
>In the spring of 2017, two months after coming home from firing thousands of rounds in Iraq, Sgt. First Class Tyler Chatfield went missing in Kentucky. >He was a senior soldier in Charlie Battery of the Army’s 1st Battalion, 320th Field Artillery Regiment. The battery had fired a stunning number of rounds against the Islamic State and then returned to Fort Campbell, Ky., in February 2017, just as the Marines were deploying. >At Fort Campbell, soldiers were struggling to sleep, and were stalked by hard-edged anxiety that sometimes veered into panic. >Everyone was screened for P.T.S.D. and brain injury. The tests showed nothing unusual. >Iraq was Sergeant Chatfield’s third deployment, and his wife knew that homecomings could be rough, but this one seemed OK. He was relaxed, loving, engaged. He was coaching Little League and building a chicken coop in the backyard. >Then one morning he was at the gym and his heart started racing like a jack rabbit. Cold sweat poured down his neck, and he started to vomit. He was sure he was having a heart attack. He was 26 years old. >His wife took him to the hospital but, other than some inflammation, cardiologists found nothing wrong. He went home, and a few days later had another attack. >Maybe it’s anxiety, a doctor suggested; he prescribed Xanax.
>The next few days for the sergeant were quiet. He took his pills and rested. He roasted marshmallows in the backyard with his boys. >Then he was gone. He wasn’t in bed when his wife woke up on the Thursday morning after the attack. He wasn’t at work, either. The Army and local police went out looking for him. >His wife was sure he would show up to coach his sons’ afternoon baseball game. But in the ninth inning, she was still scanning the parking lot. >She felt so uneasy by the end of the game that she asked another soldier to escort her home. The soldier went into the house first and emerged a few minutes later shaking his head. He had found Sergeant Chatfield’s body in the garage, behind a stack of boxes. >The sergeant had taken his own life.
>All four of the artillery batteries examined by The Times have had at least one suicide — a striking pattern, since death by suicide is rare even in high-risk populations. Some batteries have had several, and many service members said in interviews that they had tried to kill themselves. >A friend of Sergeant Chatfield’s, Staff Sgt. Joshua James, changed from an easygoing young father into an alcoholic, afflicted by anxiety and headaches. >He seemed to grow worse every year. In 2021, an M.R.I. detected an abnormality deep in his brain, but doctors said they were not sure what caused it or what could be done. In November 2022, he was on a road trip with his family when he got into an argument with his wife. >With no warning, he shot himself in the drive-through of a fast-food restaurant.
Man, what a horrible bitch of a wife she must have been to do something like that
women could solve so many problems if they would just shut the fuck up too. dude’s a zogbot killing goat fuckers from the cia and mossads pet project that got out of hand and then he has to come home to a nagging hysterical cheating bitch that screams what’s left of his ears off. she’s lucky the dude didn’t take her with him.
>Earlier this year, he started seeing things. Shadows cast by streetlights seemed to be crawling. At first, there were transient flickers of motion on the edge of his vision. Then came full hallucinations of creatures moving through the darkness. >“Now they are very close, like at arm’s length, and very real,” he said in a phone call from his car one night. “Honestly, I see it right now, and it’s freaking me out.”
Don't go to war, demons will haunt you
Honestly how else can you explain all of these dudes seeing demons? I've heard of PTSD hallucinations and breaks with reality but it's pretty fucking weird that every single one described here is seeing demons. You would think it would be a spectrum of symptoms.
Bear in mind that he's homeless and possibly using meth to deal with that shitty situation, which itself also summons the shadow people like nothing else.
Might not just be the constant BOOOOOOM, but the drugs.
Also, no doctor will take seriously the thought anyone seeing demons is anything but psychosis.
Honestly how else can you explain all of these dudes seeing demons? I've heard of PTSD hallucinations and breaks with reality but it's pretty fucking weird that every single one described here is seeing demons. You would think it would be a spectrum of symptoms.
can’t forget that story about those dudes testing out red filtered night vision goggles. maybe that stuff is always there and we just filter it out until that filter gets damaged or disabled by an outside force or substance. plenty of stories out there about that sort of stuff
>flying in the heli >firing his bren gun >shooting these big .50 caliber slugs
kek love boomers mixing up terminology
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Holy fuck that was retarded shit. FYI image intensifying NVG's have always been green or greenish color. It is mostly about physics and little bit about chemistry. Phosphor.
>seeing demons >Squiggly shadows in your peripheral vision
you nagger that's lack of sleep, and it's probably drug addictions too
ex mils love to grift for the free fucking bennies, shame on all of you for taking away from the guy missing half his guts or having no legs, fuck you. fuck all of you
you're an adult you know ghosts arent real, fuck off with this shit
it’s been extremely well studied how seemingly supernatural shit (voices, ghosts moving ONLY in corners of the vision) occurs even to healthy people if you apply electric currents to the right spots in the brain.
i imagine imperceptible damages impacting neuron activity is probably more than enough to make you see weird shit.
>what's more likely, faulty neural wiring from repeated exposure to explosions, or a widespread conspiracy to defraud the VA by the pernicious kabal of former arty crews that makes sure they all claim similar (but not exactly the same) symptoms
i swear half of conspiracytards are just otherwise normal people who know what Occam's Razor is but fundamentally don't understand how to apply it
Half of them are smart enough to know they want government gibs, but too dumb to come up with a scam, so they impotently rage when other people have legit issues, because they think those people are just like them and have taken a scam out of the finite scam pool and taken it away as an option for them.
Maybe the supernatural is a real factor and these guys did indeed come back haunted. Some haunted by innocent collateral victims they caused, others haunted by Djinn.
Honestly how else can you explain all of these dudes seeing demons? I've heard of PTSD hallucinations and breaks with reality but it's pretty fucking weird that every single one described here is seeing demons. You would think it would be a spectrum of symptoms.
pazuzu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx5kxfdP5hc
This video in particular is excellent.
I can't really tell if that dude is faking it, but it's scary when he lets that thing take over.
taking shaman grade psychedelics and getting one-shot
And now he has to live with it all the time.
I wonder why it doesn't take over when he's sleeping.
Trying to fall asleep must be terrifying, maybe when you wake you won't be in control anymore
>If there was even an iota of a chance of blood sacrifice being real the upper classes would be doing Aztec levels of human sacrifice
Shit's kind of fucked because outside of real isolated incidents everybody in the old world gave up on human sacrifice by 1000 AD while nowadays I am 100% certain if our leadership had the same "What if this works?" thinking as people did back then they'd be going blood for the blood god in all of five seconds.
On a certain level our leaders are less morally empathetic than fucking slave-holding witch-burning feudal barons.
Not really less empathetic but globalization has made it so they aren’t as dependent on their constituents as a feudal baron or Roman governor would have been on his subjects so they don’t have to play pretend like in times of old
>The supernatural being real would be cool
Most supernatural stuff from cultures around the world tends to be pretty fucked up and usually evil.
German folk mythology stands out as being weirdly positive with helpful nature spirits who help you out when you know how to treat them despite the stories for children being gruesome.
Probably why forests have generallh positive in connotations in German stories and negative ones in English stories. I wonder if it's similar in Scandinavia and if brits just got the fucked up parts from celts.
In Finland, the forest gods and spirits are both good and bad at the same time and it's generally the person himself who can affect the outcome.
The animals of the forest are the cattle of gods and you can't take it without asking - if you respect the gods with small rituals, they provide. Forest god provides the largest animals and his wife the smaller ones + berries and mushrooms.
Same goes for smaller spirits, they had their rules and wishes and they would help you if you respectfully took part in it and performed rituals etc. They would warn you of danger, provide food, show you the way etc. or the opposite, let you get lost in the endless forests.
Scandinavian stories feature beautiful forest women who talk to lonely charcoal kiln watchmen in the woods. Its not until they turn around and leave that the kiln man notice that they have the tail of a fox or an ox. Spook encounters are generally positive. Spooks occasionally even give help on the farm when someone they take pity on is in distress. Encounters have waned because these entities are sensitive to electrical fields from power lines.
The local supernatural creatures differ in attitude to humans depending on where you the globe you are. You can see this in UFO encounters of the 3rd degree as well, in Europe most encounters are with "nordics", in America most encounters are with "greys".
Westernmost Europe (Ireland, UK, France etc) are a kind of borderlands for evil supernatural entities. The sluagh doesnt penetrate beyond Ireland / The Hebrides. In the irish legends, it always comes out of the west. There has been bigfoot observations in the UK, but they are thin stick like things for some reason, its like they cant manifest themselves properly. I've noted that some missing 411 cases feature people whose corpses appears to have been dropped from great height, these smell like sluagh attacks to me. That Black on a roadsite litter workcrew who was plucked while working was very likely taken by a sluagh. If you have read the books, you know the case.
There is also one really interesting thing, there is something that follows white people and subdues the local spooks. I have noticed that the early european explorers of an area tend to report actually seeing impossible creatures (whom they shoot at with zero effect) or even talking to gnomes (!) who they mistake for some kind of wierd locals, but then these creatures just disappear when more white people enter the area. Its not religion, these critters are long gone when the first missionary arrives.
personally I'm excited to see what kind of horseshit is going to haunt Mars or the Moon when we arrive
the Apollo missions were over and done too fast for anything to happen but Mars and Artemis are going to last a while
It is real. Ive seen demons and me and two bros saw all the cabinet doors swinging open and shut one night. Two of us werent sober but the 3rd guy was. Ive also unironically seen a skinwalker type thing in the woods with the same bro
they do but its still a pain in the ass because if you dont go immediately to a clinic complaining about your concussion they wouldnt diagnose you and you cant ever go immediately because youre probably busy shooting mortars. i developed a slight stutter after my 3rd one but i cant prove that it was service related because i didnt immediately seek out medical aid for it.
i had the muzzle next to my right ear at one point, as i had to shoot behind me in a grapple. it fucked my right ear up and i developed migraines and balance issues from then on. it was only a USP 9mm, too.
>military struggled to understand what is wrong
I love this complete denial >blasts cause TBI >TBI fucks you up for life >admitting this means taking care of people you sent to get it instead of leaving them to die in the gutter >pretend you have no idea >let them die in the gutter
I honestly have no idea why anyone with a triple digit IQ would ever sign up.
>I honestly have no idea why anyone with a triple digit IQ would ever sign up.
Because no one knows any of this shit when they're 18. When you're 18 you're invincible and the idea that being near pressure waves could give you brain damage doesn't even occur to you, let alone deter you from joining.
An internal investigation concluded that those soldiers were most likely targeted by deamons and curses, and that their symptoms are unrelated to their service in the armed forces.
The fact that the medical field completely wrote off shell shock as a myth and chalked up PTSD as the catch-all explanation for everything is infuriating.
we already knew this pretty sure... they just didn't care because what are they gunna do stop using artillery?
they gotta rotate people out more, like artillery should be a job you do in rotations and then you go back to a desk or patrol duty or something, it's like how guys are only "allowed" to shoot a Carl Gustav so many times or they'll literally get a concussion and if you have a concussion and you keep shooting one you absolutely start fucking your brain up permanently.
There is procedure in place to cycle crew members around on gun positions to get the farther away from the blast when they are firing for extended durations
>There is procedure in place to cycle crew members around on gun positions to get the farther away from the blast when they are firing for extended durations
Thats only going to spread the damage out, not block it. These people need helmets that enclose the entire head. I guess some kind of space suit helmet that rests on the shoulders would work.
No joke, why not just use drone arty? The crew could even be stateside for all anyone cares since the loading and firing sequence will be taken care of by the robots, so no humans will get hurt.
Cost and you need someone there to maintain it. Drones in the sky work because flying is a very simple activity once you've overcome the engineering problem, while driving around and moving shit on the ground is not. It also helps that planes are inherently expensive so it's not a big cost difference to replace the life support system with the communications needed for drone duty.
I was thinking dropping the drone arty into position (by ground or air, doesn't matter) before the mission and watching them from the air with a QRF on standby in case they get attacked. Then when you're done send some supply trucks to come pick them up. Basically manage them like a shitty near future sci-fi RTS.
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Then I'll just settle with a u dumb nigga. The future of artillery isn't using them as disposable assets, it's shooting and scooting before the counterbattery fire comes in.
Cost and you need someone there to maintain it. Drones in the sky work because flying is a very simple activity once you've overcome the engineering problem, while driving around and moving shit on the ground is not. It also helps that planes are inherently expensive so it's not a big cost difference to replace the life support system with the communications needed for drone duty.
If you could do automated arty, maybe a good option would be to have crews onsite but remote operating it from a couple hundred yards away, maybe even in an enclosed control vehicle.
I don't know if it's hydrostatic shock, but your brain is vibrating in your cranium, and the white and grey matter have different densities, causing them to vibrate differently and resulting in micro sheering of blood vessels.
>a few thousand explosions or blows to the head can make you a violent lunatic >we only found out a few decades ago >we're still finding more high risk groups
It's honestly amazing how well we did in the 20th century given how many people had severe brain damage.
>Do you ever hear about russian artilleryman having visions and breaking down from seeing ghosts?
But anon vodka does that every day when they aren't at war.
>PTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSD
Holy shit, shut the fuck up you fucking retards.
The article is about actual BRAIN DAMAGE caused by firing huge artillery guns constantly. It has fucking nothing to do with PTSD. PTSD is only mentioned because these guys were INCORRECTLY diagnosed with it.
wait, how does one attain brain damage from fiting artillery, I'm genuinely curious
and no, I'm not gonna read and articles, I just wanna know if the shockwaves are the ones that actually cause the damage
I suspect also the mass exposure to unburned propellant. Some propellants disperse known carcinogens and heavy metals. Guided rounds also have thermal batteries that, upon activation, release fumes. Could be.
Funnily enough they call the unburnt propellant you breathe in ‘wolf pussy’ and I remember seeing a buddy whos RTOing wearing wolf pussy blackface from sitting downwind of the tube. We’re so fucked lol
No, it's a non story. There are no physical signs of TBIs in these individuals. However they ARE at the fucking PRIME age for schizphrenia symptons to begin showing.
We are dealing with paranoid schizophrenia, not TBIs here.
concussions cause scaring on the brain.
these injuries are brain damage.
they've already figured out using mushroom derived drugs and therapy can fix this. they knew decades ago. it costs too much money so soldiers just keep suiciding. far cheaper for America.
Recoilless launchers like the Carl Gustaf have a risk of the user developing TBI from it being used too much and people in this thread are surprised artillery will do it too?
yeah
They don't let you fire off more than a dozen or so Carl G rounds in a day, I imagine blasting off artillery day in and day out probably has similar effects
back during the initial push for Afghanistan, those dudes would be used just to pop house doors and shit. we're talking 30-50 rounds per day. they were just fucking walking zombies. other guys would basically have to tard wrangle them because they were clearly not with it.
lol, of course. A TBI is a must. I'm %100 sure that the DoD knew that ages ago. Also from firing rockets and stuff, but they are like "huh, a grunt with some small brain damage is a small price to pay for the capability of rockets or arty"
TBI?
Traumatic Brain Injury
>strange
>new
>mysterious
Journalists...
>When Javier Ortiz came home from a secret mission in Syria, the ghost of a dead girl appeared to him in his kitchen. She was pale and covered in chalky dust, as if hit by an explosion, and her eyes stared at him with a glare as dark and heavy as oil.
>The 21-year-old Marine was part of an artillery gun crew that fought against the Islamic State, and he knew that his unit’s huge cannons had killed hundreds of enemy fighters. The ghost, he was sure, was their revenge.
>A shiver went through him. He backed into another room in his apartment near Camp Pendleton in California and flicked on the lights, certain that he was imagining things. She was still there.
clear cut case of a ghost haunting you for killing her.
don't kill babies if you don't want them to haunt you
>When Lance Corporal Ortiz started seeing a ghost a few days after returning from Syria in 2017, it didn’t occur to him that he had been hurt by his own cannon. Instead, he was convinced that the enemy had put a hex on him.
>He tried to purify himself by lighting a fire on the beach near Camp Pendleton and burning his old combat gloves and journal from the deployment. But after the ashes cooled, the ghost was still there.
tfw magick doesn't banish the ghosts haunting you
>One Friday night in October 2020, he was having visions that ghosts were trying to pull him into another dimension. He stretched out naked on his kitchen floor, hoping that the cool touch of the tiles would restore his grip on reality. It didn’t work. In a panic, he called a cousin who had served in Iraq. His cousin said that what always worked for his P.T.S.D. was marijuana.
dudeweed lmao
>nooooo you can't use a low cost, safe, proven treatment for ptsd you have to suffer!!!!!`
absolute retardation
>Dude if you're suffering from psychotic hallucinations just take a drug that causes psychosis
C'mon mate. Really now? You can't be serious. Now let's be real. You having a laugh? Surely you jest. 23 states.
Weed helps a fuckload with PTSD. Alcohol only helps if you get it in you in the short window between forming the memories short-term before they become long-term.
>”hurt by his own cannon”
>starts “hallucinating” and seeing a specific figure over and over again
>only starts after he gets back from deployment
If artillery crews from past conflicts haven’t reported similar events, then there’s something more going on here than just getting his dome rattled. maybe even the chemicals in the propellant they use could be a contributing factor.
Its not an extraordinary claim that brain damage can cause psychotic symptoms. It even has a name. PDTBI or Psychotic Disorder Due to Traumatic Brain Injury.
Interesting review paper on it here
https://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/jnp.14.2.130
>hey man, you can't fire the Carl G more than six times because it will melt your brain
>yeah man, firing hundreds of rounds of charge 8 is fine, don't be a pussy
The military already knows, they just don't want to admit fault. As for back in the day, you choke your wife unconscious three times a week and have hallucinations every other night and nobody would talk about it.
Then add in the chemicals from the charge firing off you inhale in copious amounts, its just wonderful and gets even the 2 packs a day smokers feeling it
what if she has a kink for being choked unconscious
the wife is a real trooper. if a guy these days even looks at his wife wrong she’s filing for divorce and taking a cab to the ghetto to get a train ran on her by every nagger on the block and block over.
I am demoralize now
Obviously the shit being fired now is an entire dimension away from the artillery of the past, but even then odds are the guys around back in the day experienced similar things. Nobody just ever talked about it so it was chalked up to uncle whoever just being his quirky self, binge drinking and maybe a touch of wife and kid beating or two.
The ones who have that IQ always go to shit like intel, IT, nuke, air force, maybe medical, etc. And if you have those options available then why would you ever go with the artillery route?
Don't artymen need to be good at math???
it's high school-tier math.
No, artillerymen need to be good at digging holes where they're told, carrying shells where they're told, pointing guns where they're told, loading guns when they're told and pulling a cord when they're told. Artillery soldiers could be the thickest people alive and still do a fantastic job. Anything related to artillery that requires more than room temperature IQ and a pulse is done by officers or computers.
>The ones who have that IQ always go to shit like intel, IT, nuke, air force, maybe medical, etc
That's all good and well but what about when they setup a burn pit upwind from you or force experimental medication on you, sure you aren't getting TBI from arty but they will happily fuck you and then pretend they had nothing to do with it.
>any of those jobs
>anywhere near a burn pit
pick one
>stupid Hispanic
>schizo
>ptsd
>lying
Fuck off you petulant homosexual
>>>/x/
Did he try fucking her?
>When asked about the apparition of the dead girl, he started to cry and lowered his voice so his wife wouldn’t hear. He admitted that he still saw the ghost. And other things.
Don't think so, he is haunted by her, he doesn't appear to be a pervert.
>superstitious Hispanic retard hallucinates ghost girl
These are the same people who all have abuelas that think a room in their house is haunted because it's drafty.
Don't mexicans also believe in witches that hang out in treetops?
What the hell? No, no, that's retarded. Why would we hang out in treetops? Stupid superstitious bullshit.
I saw an owl take off in the dark once, and I can completely see where people could invent shit like that
Guys, this is NOT how hallucinations act.
He could have just as easily been tweaking from meth, sleep deprivation, new-onset schizophrenia (right age), PTSD with psychotic features, a focal seizure, or any other number of problems. Hallucinations are a common symptom of many disorders (and are often benign, like with sleep deprivation or deep meditation) and while getting your noggin rattled from shelling goat herders day in and day out probably isn't good for it, recently returned soldiers hallucinating could be caused by many, many other things.
It's common for schizophrenics to photograph their hallucinations and see them in the pictures or videos. Some hallucinations will be there when you fall asleep and greet you when you wake up. In early psychosis, almost all people will suspect to some degree that they're hallucinating and almost universally their cannot prove what they see isn't real. Picrel a schizophrenic's drawing of her hallucination. She claims it follows her around for most of the day.
The stuff you see from shrooms or acid are pseudohallucinations - they usually don't persist unless focused on, don't appear to interact with the environment, fairly easy to manipulate with the mine, and the person's first impression is that the image is fake. True hallucinations are usually indicative of true brain disfunction instead of a transient disturbance like with hippie drugs. True hallucinations, delusions, and irrational behavior are often seen near death as the brain shuts down with the body in a state termed delirium. You can experience false realities just as real, and often realer than what everyone else sees, but your brain has to be truly fucked for that to happen.
t. crazy person appreciator
>PTSD with psychotic features
interesting. i never knew you could get the positive and negative symptoms seen in schizophrenia with ptsd.
i think its probably not ptsd but just schizophrenia. the first episode is usually when people in their late teens or early twens are suddenly put under pressure. typical case is young guy finishing high school, moving out from home, moving to other part of the country for universtiy, university being hard, everything is new and strange, no friends, no family -->develops psychosis
very often the delusions have some religious motive especially when the patient is very religious. when not the delusional ideas are often about stuff that is in the news.
>le schizophrenia meme
schizophrenia isn't a magical, progressive disease with a higher incidence than every other psychosocial disorder whenever convenient.
TBI induced psychosis doesn't have early warning signs, you either have it or you don't.
you don't present as classic schizophrenia.
also, how people cope with delusions and hallucinations comes down to their ability to self-regulate their own thoughts.
it takes a high degree of intelligence, understanding of epistomology, and discipline to cope and perform your own cognitive behavioral therapy without outside intervention.
most people simply don't even know where to start when they experience delusions for the first time, and many bookies such as yourself encourage the popular conception that it is a progressive, incurable disease with a purely physical or genetic cause, instead of a recursive positive symptom spiral, and it can be cognitively managed if confronted early, before the spiral consumes the mind and ends all rationality.
Ehhhhhhh it really doesn't seem that way. Like you said, schizophrenia isn't gradated, you either have it or you don't. There's no pre-schizophrenia and it seems that past childhood there aren't any risk factors that make you more or less likely to get schizophrenia, but rather just make you get it sooner or later. The "progression" of schizophrenia isn't really in symptoms but just how much you've fucked up your life. If you have psychosis for a day you'll probably skip work and do something silly. Worst case scenario you lose your job but you could probably come up with a decent excuse or have the wherewithal to call in sick. A year of psychosis and you'll be on the street unless you have someone taking care of you cleaning after you.
There's really no way you can "think" your way out of schizophrenia though. In fact, schizophrenics have markedly higher IQs on average and many are geniuses. Very recent research has identified a number of genes in schizophrenics and it looks like they sit in three pots. If you have the "light" genes, you will likely respond very well to treatment and live essentially symptom free. I've spoken to psychiatrists about this subgroup of patients and the goal of care is full return of function and to live a completely normal life. The second group of genes is the "moderate" pot and the goal for these patients is to be stable. They will not respond completely to medication and will struggle in day-to-day life. They usually need support from family and tend to work simple jobs. Similarly, they have few friends and struggle socially. Psychiatrists aim to prevent hospitalization in these patients, and most will have a number of psychiatric hospitalizations in their life. The final group is the "severe" group of genes. They will have little response to meds, go off their meds regularly, at very high risk for being homeless, the victims of violent crime and sexual assault, and life drastically shorter lives. Cont.
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These people never work, never hold romantic relationships, never have friends, and pretty much aren't part of society. These are the crazy homeless people. They also almost universally use hard drugs. The link between these different genes and the outcomes of schizophrenia were very strong, and it seems soon genetic testing will determine someone's fate when they receive a schizophrenia diagnosis.
Therapy, or rationalizing as you put it, can help schizophrenia, but it can only be treated with drugs. The point of therapy is typically to cope with symptoms and help patients understand the world in terms they can understand, particularly with things like relationships. The whole schizophrenia dogma gets harder to understand with similar sounding conditions, like schizoaffective disorder, which is pretty much schizophrenia lite, schizotypical personality disorder, which is defined by strange beliefs and social difficulty without psychosis and schizod personality disorder, which has nothing to do with schizophrenia. All of these respond to therapy and can't be helped with medication, which leads people to believing that schizophrenia proper can be treated with only therapy or that you can "think your way out of it". You really can't. A schizophrenic brain looks different on scans and the cells look different under a microscope. It is truly a biological disease of the mind, and hopefully one we'll understand much better in coming decades.
t. doctor
>t. doctor
Doubt.
Post your MD wall scroll or gtfo with your schizotypical ramblings.
You either subscribe to the cognitive model of psychiatric disease, or you don't.
Based on what you've written, you don't. So by what model do you base your reply?
Psychiatry is one of the weakest fields when it comes to evidence-based medicine, to the point that it's largely regarded as a joke compared to other specialties.
Our disease models do not model the psychiatric disease in humans, in fact we don't even have true disease models, just pseudo-philosophy.
Most of the medications do not perform significantly better than placebo.
Psychiatry has the worst disparity between individual providers providing successful treatments of all specialties.
Cognitive behavioral therapy on the other hand, performs just as well as medication for nearly all forms of mild to moderate illnesses, if not better depending on what data you look at, with none of the side effects of psychiatric medication.
Cognitive behavioral therapy is not coddling or handholding sessions, it is work.
There is no "thinking your way out of it." The fundamental train of thought is changed through the process.
Not the 'What'. Not the 'Why', or even the 'How'.
You correct in that severe cases have the kitchen sink thrown at them, but that is not any different than any other field of medicine. Overtreatment is never treated as malpractice. People want "everything possible" done for them even when we know that these treatments are harmful and have little chance of success, and will only keep you alive with a very low quality of life.
>You either subscribe to the cognitive model of psychiatric disease, or you don't.
Homie in what world can something as complex as the human mind only be explainable by one model, and you have to pick between competing models that all don't explain the problem completely? All psychiatric diseases have a cognitive component. All psychiatric diseases also have a biologic, environmental, and social component. There is nothing suggesting that a mental illness cannot stem from both a cognitive and biological problem, and it is pretty illogical to think that every mental health problem has to fit into a single rigid model of pathology (or that all have to fit in the same model, as you're suggesting). Take depression, for example. Depression is primarily a cognitive problem - it is a disorder characterized by ruminating thoughts of self-worthlessness, guilt, blame, disinterest in hobbies and socialization, and often a belief that one cannot or will not get better. The best treatment for depression hands down is cognitive behavioral therapy, which I know is not "coddling". Patients are left with a lot of work both in and out of therapy and it is only effective if they do that work consistently. But depression is not just a cognitive problem. It is mostly a cognitive problem, but not 100%. Children separated from birth with biological parents who had depression are more likely to get depression. Genes have been associated with depression. People who live in the extreme north and south, where there is very little sunlight for half the year, are more likely to develop depression. People in abusive households are more likely to develop depression. Poor people are more likely to develop depression. There is no one mode of disease - cognitive, biological, social, environmental, etc - that can explain it completely for any mental health disorder.
Cont.
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Overtreatment is a problem and it is malpractice, although it reaches the legal threshold of malpractice less often than undertreatment. For schizophrenia, medication is the only treatment that works to relieve psychosis. Schizophrenics are extremely prone to develop cognitions and behaviors that cause distress or disfunction, and this is where CBT can be helpful, but therapy cannot fix psychosis.
>Cognitive behavioral therapy on the other hand, performs just as well as medication for nearly all forms of mild to moderate illnesses, if not better depending on what data you look at, with none of the side effects of psychiatric medication.
Yes, this is true is PREDOMINANTLY COGNITIVE DISORDERS. CBT is first line treatment is depression, anxiety, phobias, PTSD (although the MDMA augmented psychotherapy data is very encouraging), personality disorders, eating disorders, etc. Schizophrenia is not a predominantly cognitive disorder. It is a predominantly biologic disorder. Psychologists have tried treating schizophrenia with therapy only, and every kind of therapy, for decades. The patient's don't get better, the voices don't go away. To your point where it's the best therapy for mild and moderate, the severe cases usually have a mixed modality i.e. severe depression is cognitive but also biological, and in these cases therapy and medication is most useful.
(As an aside, doctors do recommend therapy - they could do it more but they do recommend it for disorders in which it would help. Patients don't go because insurance won't cover it, because they can't get an hour off of work each week, and because therapy takes a lot of work and they don't want to do it)
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Part of the definition of psychosis is "a strongly held false belief that does not fit within cultural or religious norms and cannot be dissuaded in the face of overwhelming evidence". The schizophrenic brain cannot be convinced, that's what makes it schizophrenic. In mild schizophrenia, the appropriate treatment may be a low dose mild antipsychotic with therapy as needed. In severe, the "kitchen sink" may be a high dose strong antipsychotic with an additional antipsychotic that employs a different mechanism of action, therapy once or more a week, and a safety plan to hospitalize the patient early in a psychotic episode. The invention of the first antipsychotic, chlorpromazine, was the first time in history we saw people leave asylums. Although chlorpromazine was a barbaric drug due to it's side effects (and is no longer used today), it allowed for some schizophrenics in asylums to control their voices and delusions rather than simply being locked away for their safety (and the convince of society).
I could explain what is wrong in the brain with a schizophrenic, how the drugs work, and how a shot or a pill can make voices disappear, but at this point I want to know what your source is? Did it come to you in a dream? Although it is not my specialty, many of the patients I see have mental health problems and I make treatment decisions for mental health disorders every day. It's something I'm passionate about because taking care of your body works better than any pill I have, and mental health disorders keep people from taking care of themselves. People with mental health disorders get sick and die at a much higher rate than those without, so to me mental health is just as important or maybe more than things like blood pressure or cholesterol.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22189047/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22815247/
for psychotherapy and antidepressants both demonstrating efficacy as monotherapy or in combination
draw your own conclusions, but in most fields if a medication isn't superior to what amounts to a shaman doing voodoo, it isn't considered effective. in psych this is fine though.
also, i don't disagree with you necessarily, i am just pointing out that our understanding of mental illness is incredibly poor and it's a joke how so many doctors pretend we have curative treatments for these illnesses when we do not. without understanding the pathogenesis (which even the larger organizations like NICE and APA handwave away saying it's everything and we can't accurately model it), psych is currently stuck in 1800s medicine, a lot of physician gestalt, and blowing smoke up people's asses.
it's irresponsible for physicians to prescribe these medications without explaining to a patient that it isn't magic and isn't going to solve their problems for them, because that's what many patients actually believe.
i often see in practice is other providers telling their patients to "remove the stressor" as if that's a readily available option and otherwise piling on pharmacotherapy as a band-aid while they pathologize any instance of anxiety or depression as a disorder instead being part of the normal course of life.
on a side note, neurology is not psych, so let's not confuse the two fields.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18621509/
pharmacotherapy has an overestimated effect because the negative findings simply aren't published. there's also studies that show psychotherapy is garbage and doesn't work.
the lack of reproducability overall of results is a huge problem in psych, we have so many contradictory results that are largely explained by bias and open label designs, but therein lies the problem, how do you perform any type of therapy without an open label design?
>Cognitive behavioral therapy is not coddling or handholding sessions, it is work.
"Cognitive behavioral therapy" is about teaching cluster B people how to better mimic mentally healthy people so they can become better predators. It doesnt make them stop being psychopaths, narcississists, borderliners or histrionics. Its one of the great medical scams of our age, literally marxism applied to medicine.
Schizophrenia is related both to physical abberations in the brain combined with an inability to metabolize kynueric acid. The fraction of the population that have these physical abberations without the triggering factor is pretty large, perhaps 20-25% in north euros and 40-50% in middle eastern populations. Consumption of THC triggers the formation of neural abberations in the brain and should be avoided. The reason as for some people get fucked up quick by THC and others do not is probably related to if they have these schizo phyiscal abberations already or not.
If you are ex military and have problems slowing down or falling asleep, buy lithium orotate supplementation. If you can get a prescription, do not take zolpidem or benzos, they give you shit sleep and are difficult to stop using for almost everyone. Get pergabaline instead, it gives you great sleep and is quite easy to stop using for almost all people. Only downside is the long time of action.
There is no treatment to fix schizophrenia, although its theoretically possible. Medications are only to make them passive and easily manageable. Treatments like electroshock literally destroys brains. Its used to semiparalyze schizos by giving them brain trauma.
Do not trust you doctor unless you are competent enough to understand if he is LARPing or if he is a real doctor. Remember that these people mass sucided by injecting themselves and their families with the covid vaccines despite having an education that should have informed them that these vaccines would never work. Its not just that these vaccines cause exotic side effects, its also that they cause original antigenic sin, aka misfitting imprinting of the immune system, a feature of the immune system known since the 1960s but apparently forgotten by american immunologists despite being considering basic knowledge across the entire world. So fuck these people and their paper degrees.
What the fuck is an aberration? Do you have ghosts in your head?
In any case you are retarded. Enjoy your lithium poisoning, it’s normally an uphill battle to talk bipolar people into eating metal but you seem to do it recreationally. You also misspelled pregabalin, which when you inevitably get a kidney injury from something else retarded will be a fun puzzle for the toxicologist in combination with the lithium overload. GLHF see you at the VA.
Thats pretty spooky. If i saw that following me around i would 100% start to think its a demon if i rationally know theres no way thats the case.
What happens if you ask her where it is currently at and then punch that spot? Phase through it? Knock it on its ass?
The thing that tickles me are the lizardesque physical traits on this thing. Spooks can, according to field reports, selectively chose who can see them. F.ex in one encouter a mixed team of feather injuns and some whiteys encountered "stick indians". Only the injuns could see them. They can sense if you are watching them directly. It is unclear if they can sense if you watch them trough a telescope, reports are mixed. They can't sense if you watch them trough a remote camera.
if they can or can't detect you through a telescope, what if I wear sunglasses
>most of the day.
Gotta take lunch, ya know.
my bro is fucking RIPPED 3% bodyfat max
>tfw no e-boi daughterwife
Shondo fans get out.
This is not PTSD lmao, don't know what those marines did over there but they are all now cursed lol
Demons and ghosts are real, anon.
If you kill little children, expect to be haunted
Simply killing children isn't enough to get cursed. They shelled something ancient they shouldn't have
The article mentioned that they were hitting Raqqa. I wonder if that's where picrel is
They've angered the old gods
>tfw no ghostwife
>wake up in the middle of sleeping to some of that ghost head
>it’s not a succubus, just a ghost chick
I’d be down for that.
I have seen so many blowjob parodies of this image, and parodies of those parodies, until you find some FFXIV fanart of a steppe lizard himecut waifu sucking cock under the covers and go "I recognize this pose".
>Steppe lizard
To be fair those steppe lizards are perfect wives unless they have that face that makes them look like they're always about to start crying. God, imagine being a Garlean conscript from the provinces with fresh citizenship assigned to the Domain border with a license to mating press every tribal huntress you catch on the Azim Steppe. Almost makes it worth getting killed by the WoL.
First question should be if he’s taking any medication
meth 100% will cause these sorts of thing to happen
Meth does not cause those kind of hallucinations
Paranoia, delusions? Sure
Seeing a ghost girl? Nope
Sleep deprivation due to continued meth use would do that, but at that point its side effects are obvious to anyone who knows.
whats with zoomers and this homosexualy muh spiritual woman think? have a nice day immediately
Zoomers are mostly non-white and, as such, raised by single mothers. The fact that they imitate the behavior and idiocy of single women should be no surprise to you as it's the only thing they know for role models. It's the exact same reason zoomers are so anti 2A, because their single mothers were and there was no man in the house to tell her to shut her dumb ass up.
I know Ortiz personally, he is unironically saying this for gibs. Motherfuckers are really out here thinking PTSD is some Hollywood bullshit that causes hallucinations.
>kill people
>get haunted
>"oh nooo how could this be happening to me"
Schizophrenia. Also he's hispanic, those primitive fuckers are superstitious to a ridiculous level. He's probably shitting himself over those mexican alien bodies and Ancient Aliens.
>falling for a poorly written propaganda piece written by shitskin hands
its so obvious its cringe
>shitbag brownoid enlisted gets high
>ohno how can I avoid a chaptering
>tell reporters it was ptsd!
gross.
If you haven't had a psychotic break, taken serious doses of hallucinogens or dissociatives, or done at least a postgrad course in psychology/psychiatry, don't fucking talk. The brain is 100% capable of making wild shit up if it's not working properly.
Neurological fuckery is on another level compared to psychiatric diagnoses. One is like your motherboard bursting into flames, the other is like playing a shitty broken-on-launch FPS that keeps crashing to the desktop.
If your hardware is fucked, you're fucked. You can always install new software, but you're stuck with your brain until you're dead.
There's a reason the most difficult to treat psychiatric diagnoses also involve the most neurological deviations, too. Thankfully, I don't have to deal with any of this because my brain is already too fucked to join the military to begin with.
A lot of psychiatric disorders have neurological components to them as well, they're just not as understood or obvious. It says a lot about the education of the average person that they think even severe brain damage from TBI is something you can just "power through".
> my brain is already too fucked to join the military to begin with.
nah m8
you'll be ushered right in if you're fucked in the head but unmedicated.
it's not about being too fucked up, the brass is literally just afraid of your pills
boomer retardation can be truly impressive
>-t. hasn't been in the military, much less combat
Yeah, it's called 'being a shitbag.'
Nobody gives a fuck about your uneducated opinion retard
Nah, not having been in the military is called not being a fucking chump. But enjoy dying for Israel, goy.
>this nagger talking to ghosts
Dudebro, I think the zogbots are still alive.
>postgrad course in psychology/psychiatry
Holy fuck, have a nice day you massive homosexual, do it now.
>Finding that pattern in living veterans is another matter. There is currently no brain scan or blood test that can detect the minute injuries, Dr. Perl said; the damage can be seen only under microscopes once a service member has died. So there is no definitive way to tell whether a living person is injured. Even if there were, there is no therapy to fix it.
>Alpha battery troops set up their big guns in March 2017 in a dirt field in Syria within sight of the enemy-controlled city of Raqqa and almost immediately started firing.
>They rarely stopped for the next two months.
Makes you wonder how the arty men in ww1 fared
Men back then had higher T levels which prevent and heal brain trauma. Do you ever hear about russian artilleryman having visions and breaking down from seeing ghosts? No?
That is because they are not being assfucked with tranny dicks like american men
>Do you ever hear about russian artilleryman having visions and breaking down from seeing ghosts?
They die of alcoholism before that can happen
Do you ever hear about russian artilleryman going home after a war ends? No?
That is because they are lying dead in a ukranian field after being assfucked by their comrades
>That is because they are not being assfucked
Holy denialistic projection, batman!
Getting fucked in the ass by transgenders -> lowers testosterone
Getting fucked in the ass by burly men -> increases testosterone
the russians truly believe this don't they
This is why men who fuck each other in the ass are invincible as discovered by the ancient Thebans. With fresh semen nourishing the soldiers' intestines they will have an endless supply of testosterone and necessary vitamins and nutrients.
They became Stalin's samovars.
We've seen that the Russian military has a culture of ass fucking men that America doesn't have. America allows gay people to serve and gives them some pandering as part of their whole "big nation of disparate groups" ethos, Russia has institutionalized male rape with a rapee caste system. Quit projecting and stop being a homosexual.
are you paid per word or just OP from yesterday who literally copy/paste the whole article.
because /k/ - /k/opy paste new york times
Yes, it's a pretty good gig.
based
>Makes you wonder how the arty men in ww1 fared
Terribly. Look up shellshock. A large portion of them went permanently deaf and crippled from it. Not to mention suicides, alcoholism, domestic violence, the lot of it.
>Makes you wonder how the arty men in ww1 fared
Communism and Fascism became popular after WW1. You tell me.
I mean, it was the brain damage from the arty AND the brain damage from the malnutrition
>the joke
here's the (you) homosexual. no idea how there are westerners that can't take the piss out of dictators. why do you think we make them?
have a nice day, libertardian nagger.
As opposed to your authoritarian leader killing you instead? Slave
My grandfather came back from ww2 with tbi. Haunted, alcoholic and abusive. Still better off than all the nips he killed.
Mine too. My mom never even considered PTSD or a TBI until I suggested it to her, just thought the guy was an asshole her whole life, but she also had no idea what he'd been through in the war - he was originally been posted to a non-combat engineer unit and let the family believe he'd spent the whole war building airfields way behind the lines. I found out different when my Grandmother died and I ended up with Grandpa's war stuff, which had his war diary in it, and it revealed that he'd been TDY'd to a combat engineer unit and fought in the Battle of the Bulge with them.
>President Donald J. Trump had given the task force broad authority to use heavy firepower, and the task force applied it with savage enthusiasm, often bending the rules to hit not just enemy positions,
>but also mosques, schools, dams and power plants.
>schools
The dude killed a little girl cowering in school and she's haunting him.
Dunno, sounds like justice to me, don't kill little girls.
Kek, even here the media has to take a shot at Trump. What exactly did he do to shatter them so hard?
Laughed at them. That's all it took, they really viewed themselves as unassailable truth-deciding kingmakers and him blowing them off and making fun of them caused such significant ego damage that the spoiled little babies never recovered.
You know it's just a way for them to slip in unsourced claims that Trump was a bad evil man for winning against mudslimes while Obama was ineffective against them.
>Brandon Mooney, a Marine from Missouri, came home from Syria with anxiety, sleep paralysis and hallucinations of a black demon.
>hallucinations of a black demon.
>He was diagnosed with P.T.S.D. but could never understand why.
More /x/ allegations.
I wonder if he posts here, looks like the type.
>Is the BBC in the room with us now, Mr. Mooney?
Paranoid Schizophrenia
All you need to know about the NYT article:
> President Donald J. Trump had given the task force broad authority to use heavy firepower, and the task force applied it with savage enthusiasm
Orange man bad, military man evil
> A few gun-crew members were eventually given diagnoses of P.T.S.D., but to the crews that didn’t make much sense. They hadn’t, in most cases, even seen the enemy.
PTSD is unavoidable by being in the marines, it's just too traumatic to fire guns. Guns bad, especially big ones
> His cousin said that what always worked for his P.T.S.D. was marijuana.
Homie Ortiz needs his dope, pay up
> He has two young children, and has struggled to hold a job. Bills have piled up.
You also need to pay for his kids
Typical NYT propaganda, everyone knows concussions are dangerous and can cause permanent damage. That doesn't absolve Mr. Ortiz from being a moron who will cost everyone money regardless of whether he was a marine. How much of the damage was because of his psychoactive drug use, prior issues/mental instability, generally being a retard, or some other idiot behavior?
This article wouldn't have been published if there wasn't the Trump narrative they could slip in, and the TBI doesn't appear to be a broad issue outside of opportunistic rags using it to further their interests.
>and the TBI doesn't appear to be a broad issue outside of opportunistic rags using it to further their interests.
I hope that in 20 years when TBI in military service is seen as just as serious as TBI in football, you're forced to publicly read out and explain this post. You're a disgusting individual and people like yourself are responsible for causing others severe harm.
I wish some of the old anons from Fallujah were here to correct retards like you. Sadly a lot of them are probably now dead.
Stack broken welfare queens 8 feet high. They served zog, now they pay the price.
>PTSD is unavoidable by being in the marines, it's just too traumatic to fire guns. Guns bad, especially big ones
They've known about this. You are limited to the number of SMAW and CG rounds you can fire in a day. I remember reading a similar article about assaultmen.
>In the spring of 2017, two months after coming home from firing thousands of rounds in Iraq, Sgt. First Class Tyler Chatfield went missing in Kentucky.
>He was a senior soldier in Charlie Battery of the Army’s 1st Battalion, 320th Field Artillery Regiment. The battery had fired a stunning number of rounds against the Islamic State and then returned to Fort Campbell, Ky., in February 2017, just as the Marines were deploying.
>At Fort Campbell, soldiers were struggling to sleep, and were stalked by hard-edged anxiety that sometimes veered into panic.
>Everyone was screened for P.T.S.D. and brain injury. The tests showed nothing unusual.
>Iraq was Sergeant Chatfield’s third deployment, and his wife knew that homecomings could be rough, but this one seemed OK. He was relaxed, loving, engaged. He was coaching Little League and building a chicken coop in the backyard.
>Then one morning he was at the gym and his heart started racing like a jack rabbit. Cold sweat poured down his neck, and he started to vomit. He was sure he was having a heart attack. He was 26 years old.
>His wife took him to the hospital but, other than some inflammation, cardiologists found nothing wrong. He went home, and a few days later had another attack.
>Maybe it’s anxiety, a doctor suggested; he prescribed Xanax.
>The next few days for the sergeant were quiet. He took his pills and rested. He roasted marshmallows in the backyard with his boys.
>Then he was gone. He wasn’t in bed when his wife woke up on the Thursday morning after the attack. He wasn’t at work, either. The Army and local police went out looking for him.
>His wife was sure he would show up to coach his sons’ afternoon baseball game. But in the ninth inning, she was still scanning the parking lot.
>She felt so uneasy by the end of the game that she asked another soldier to escort her home. The soldier went into the house first and emerged a few minutes later shaking his head. He had found Sergeant Chatfield’s body in the garage, behind a stack of boxes.
>The sergeant had taken his own life.
S
Spit on the corpses of imperialists.
>All four of the artillery batteries examined by The Times have had at least one suicide — a striking pattern, since death by suicide is rare even in high-risk populations. Some batteries have had several, and many service members said in interviews that they had tried to kill themselves.
>A friend of Sergeant Chatfield’s, Staff Sgt. Joshua James, changed from an easygoing young father into an alcoholic, afflicted by anxiety and headaches.
>He seemed to grow worse every year. In 2021, an M.R.I. detected an abnormality deep in his brain, but doctors said they were not sure what caused it or what could be done. In November 2022, he was on a road trip with his family when he got into an argument with his wife.
>With no warning, he shot himself in the drive-through of a fast-food restaurant.
Man, what a horrible bitch of a wife she must have been to do something like that
women could solve so many problems if they would just shut the fuck up too. dude’s a zogbot killing goat fuckers from the cia and mossads pet project that got out of hand and then he has to come home to a nagging hysterical cheating bitch that screams what’s left of his ears off. she’s lucky the dude didn’t take her with him.
Will this make gun silencer widespread? In most countries are banned.
>plot twist govs ban all guns 'cause TBI and childrens
a silencer on an artillery piece?
that might have value...
Sounds like a demon, he should get an Orthodox priest to get rid of it.
>Earlier this year, he started seeing things. Shadows cast by streetlights seemed to be crawling. At first, there were transient flickers of motion on the edge of his vision. Then came full hallucinations of creatures moving through the darkness.
>“Now they are very close, like at arm’s length, and very real,” he said in a phone call from his car one night. “Honestly, I see it right now, and it’s freaking me out.”
Don't go to war, demons will haunt you
Honestly how else can you explain all of these dudes seeing demons? I've heard of PTSD hallucinations and breaks with reality but it's pretty fucking weird that every single one described here is seeing demons. You would think it would be a spectrum of symptoms.
Bear in mind that he's homeless and possibly using meth to deal with that shitty situation, which itself also summons the shadow people like nothing else.
Might not just be the constant BOOOOOOM, but the drugs.
Also, no doctor will take seriously the thought anyone seeing demons is anything but psychosis.
can’t forget that story about those dudes testing out red filtered night vision goggles. maybe that stuff is always there and we just filter it out until that filter gets damaged or disabled by an outside force or substance. plenty of stories out there about that sort of stuff
>dudes testing out red filtered night vision goggles
QRD?
>flying in the heli
>firing his bren gun
>shooting these big .50 caliber slugs
kek love boomers mixing up terminology
Holy fuck that was retarded shit. FYI image intensifying NVG's have always been green or greenish color. It is mostly about physics and little bit about chemistry. Phosphor.
got a link?
>seeing demons
>Squiggly shadows in your peripheral vision
you nagger that's lack of sleep, and it's probably drug addictions too
ex mils love to grift for the free fucking bennies, shame on all of you for taking away from the guy missing half his guts or having no legs, fuck you. fuck all of you
you're an adult you know ghosts arent real, fuck off with this shit
ghosts are real tho
it’s been extremely well studied how seemingly supernatural shit (voices, ghosts moving ONLY in corners of the vision) occurs even to healthy people if you apply electric currents to the right spots in the brain.
i imagine imperceptible damages impacting neuron activity is probably more than enough to make you see weird shit.
What's more likely, magic brain jolts hitting just right or PFC retard scamming for gibs?
>what's more likely, faulty neural wiring from repeated exposure to explosions, or a widespread conspiracy to defraud the VA by the pernicious kabal of former arty crews that makes sure they all claim similar (but not exactly the same) symptoms
i swear half of conspiracytards are just otherwise normal people who know what Occam's Razor is but fundamentally don't understand how to apply it
Half of them are smart enough to know they want government gibs, but too dumb to come up with a scam, so they impotently rage when other people have legit issues, because they think those people are just like them and have taken a scam out of the finite scam pool and taken it away as an option for them.
People rarely admit it outside of churches but demons are literally real.
The flip side is that all they can do is tempt you.
Correction: don't be an artilleryman
Maybe the supernatural is a real factor and these guys did indeed come back haunted. Some haunted by innocent collateral victims they caused, others haunted by Djinn.
Killing scars your soul, nano tears in the brain allow you to see the demons
The supernatural being real would be cool.
https://www.youtube.com/@engineeringmentalsanity-je774/videos
This is /x/ tier but I enjoyed this dude's take on schizophrenia
This video in particular is excellent.
I can't really tell if that dude is faking it, but it's scary when he lets that thing take over.
pazuzu
taking shaman grade psychedelics and getting one-shot
And now he has to live with it all the time.
I wonder why it doesn't take over when he's sleeping.
Trying to fall asleep must be terrifying, maybe when you wake you won't be in control anymore
pretty solid rule 34 search man thanks for the recommendation
>If there was even an iota of a chance of blood sacrifice being real the upper classes would be doing Aztec levels of human sacrifice
Shit's kind of fucked because outside of real isolated incidents everybody in the old world gave up on human sacrifice by 1000 AD while nowadays I am 100% certain if our leadership had the same "What if this works?" thinking as people did back then they'd be going blood for the blood god in all of five seconds.
On a certain level our leaders are less morally empathetic than fucking slave-holding witch-burning feudal barons.
Not really less empathetic but globalization has made it so they aren’t as dependent on their constituents as a feudal baron or Roman governor would have been on his subjects so they don’t have to play pretend like in times of old
Why do you think abortion is pushed so hard?
>The supernatural being real would be cool
Most supernatural stuff from cultures around the world tends to be pretty fucked up and usually evil.
German folk mythology stands out as being weirdly positive with helpful nature spirits who help you out when you know how to treat them despite the stories for children being gruesome.
Probably why forests have generallh positive in connotations in German stories and negative ones in English stories. I wonder if it's similar in Scandinavia and if brits just got the fucked up parts from celts.
>I wonder if it's similar in Scandinavia
In Finland, the forest gods and spirits are both good and bad at the same time and it's generally the person himself who can affect the outcome.
The animals of the forest are the cattle of gods and you can't take it without asking - if you respect the gods with small rituals, they provide. Forest god provides the largest animals and his wife the smaller ones + berries and mushrooms.
Same goes for smaller spirits, they had their rules and wishes and they would help you if you respectfully took part in it and performed rituals etc. They would warn you of danger, provide food, show you the way etc. or the opposite, let you get lost in the endless forests.
Scandinavian stories feature beautiful forest women who talk to lonely charcoal kiln watchmen in the woods. Its not until they turn around and leave that the kiln man notice that they have the tail of a fox or an ox. Spook encounters are generally positive. Spooks occasionally even give help on the farm when someone they take pity on is in distress. Encounters have waned because these entities are sensitive to electrical fields from power lines.
The local supernatural creatures differ in attitude to humans depending on where you the globe you are. You can see this in UFO encounters of the 3rd degree as well, in Europe most encounters are with "nordics", in America most encounters are with "greys".
Westernmost Europe (Ireland, UK, France etc) are a kind of borderlands for evil supernatural entities. The sluagh doesnt penetrate beyond Ireland / The Hebrides. In the irish legends, it always comes out of the west. There has been bigfoot observations in the UK, but they are thin stick like things for some reason, its like they cant manifest themselves properly. I've noted that some missing 411 cases feature people whose corpses appears to have been dropped from great height, these smell like sluagh attacks to me. That Black on a roadsite litter workcrew who was plucked while working was very likely taken by a sluagh. If you have read the books, you know the case.
There is also one really interesting thing, there is something that follows white people and subdues the local spooks. I have noticed that the early european explorers of an area tend to report actually seeing impossible creatures (whom they shoot at with zero effect) or even talking to gnomes (!) who they mistake for some kind of wierd locals, but then these creatures just disappear when more white people enter the area. Its not religion, these critters are long gone when the first missionary arrives.
personally I'm excited to see what kind of horseshit is going to haunt Mars or the Moon when we arrive
the Apollo missions were over and done too fast for anything to happen but Mars and Artemis are going to last a while
It IS real, fag.
It is real. Ive seen demons and me and two bros saw all the cabinet doors swinging open and shut one night. Two of us werent sober but the 3rd guy was. Ive also unironically seen a skinwalker type thing in the woods with the same bro
yeah i dont know a single mortarman who hasnt gotten at least minor brain damage by the end of his first contract.
t. mortard
Does the VA recognize it as a common ailment? Or is that just parting of fighting them for every little thing?
they do but its still a pain in the ass because if you dont go immediately to a clinic complaining about your concussion they wouldnt diagnose you and you cant ever go immediately because youre probably busy shooting mortars. i developed a slight stutter after my 3rd one but i cant prove that it was service related because i didnt immediately seek out medical aid for it.
I thought it was common knowledge that artillerymen gets brain damage.
Soldiers are wear items. Harsh, but true.
Not service related :^)
I wonder if they can make some kind of shockwave absorbing balaclava to protect them
Cheaper to get new meat.
No it certainly is not
>not service related
yes it is goy
Nah, the artillerymen are being haunted by ghosts and demons.
>xaxaxaxa all these leaders didn't become dictators and stay in power indefinitely, that means I'm winning.
Poltroon cope never fails to make me laugh
its not heavy metal posioning or CTE
its obviously curses and ghosts
i started seeing shadow people after a gunfight in a grape hut in afghanistan. i didn't have ears on.
i had the muzzle next to my right ear at one point, as i had to shoot behind me in a grapple. it fucked my right ear up and i developed migraines and balance issues from then on. it was only a USP 9mm, too.
i was diagnosed with ptsd and tinnitus/ear damage, but no tbi. i'm starting to think a lot of it is tbi.
blogpost out.
>Americans reinvent artillery spam and name it after themselves
It helps when you have non-braindead observers and actual accurate fire.
>military struggled to understand what is wrong
I love this complete denial
>blasts cause TBI
>TBI fucks you up for life
>admitting this means taking care of people you sent to get it instead of leaving them to die in the gutter
>pretend you have no idea
>let them die in the gutter
I honestly have no idea why anyone with a triple digit IQ would ever sign up.
>I honestly have no idea why anyone with a triple digit IQ would ever sign up.
They don't though as per the antics of sign spinning chicken man
Based and birdpilled.
>There’s people as powerful as spinny duck and dino grabber man out there and they’re on noone’s side but their own
>I honestly have no idea why anyone with a triple digit IQ would ever sign up.
Because no one knows any of this shit when they're 18. When you're 18 you're invincible and the idea that being near pressure waves could give you brain damage doesn't even occur to you, let alone deter you from joining.
right, I forgot that Boris Johnson got taken out in the Ukraine.
>I forgot that Boris Johnson got taken out in the Ukraine.
How could you forget something that happened so visibly and often?
that was one of the numerous combat clones
The Control Unit Boris is alive and well, but we're getting concerned about his cholesterol and blood pressure.
>A bunch of soldiers lie and defraud the government for muh disability
Color me surprised. Us military vets are some of the biggest cry baby welfare naggers our country has ever produced
whilst there's always malingerers and hypochondriacs, there's also people who're generally damaged by their own weapons, not just the enemy's.
An internal investigation concluded that those soldiers were most likely targeted by deamons and curses, and that their symptoms are unrelated to their service in the armed forces.
>Not my problem
Obviously they were cursed by enemy shamans during their service, don't they even know how battles are fought?
Most definitely
I think doorbreachers who used C4 to blast doors and got their brain rocked by the blast lots of tines ended up being fucked up
>hydrostatic shock
It's when you lose too much blood, right?
He’s saying the shockwave from the artillery is compressing the limbs / chest, forcing blood into the brain and causing micro tears / mini strikes
>Shellshock is just PTSD
The fact that the medical field completely wrote off shell shock as a myth and chalked up PTSD as the catch-all explanation for everything is infuriating.
>WW1 shell shock was actually guys getting their noggings battered by artillery blast concussions while they hid in trenches not dying of fragments
OP is embarrassing himself with spams
Where did vatniks get btfo for today?
I'm gonna keep this thread alive until it hits the bump limit.
we already knew this pretty sure... they just didn't care because what are they gunna do stop using artillery?
they gotta rotate people out more, like artillery should be a job you do in rotations and then you go back to a desk or patrol duty or something, it's like how guys are only "allowed" to shoot a Carl Gustav so many times or they'll literally get a concussion and if you have a concussion and you keep shooting one you absolutely start fucking your brain up permanently.
There aren't an unlimited supply of trained artillerymen.
There is procedure in place to cycle crew members around on gun positions to get the farther away from the blast when they are firing for extended durations
>There is procedure in place to cycle crew members around on gun positions to get the farther away from the blast when they are firing for extended durations
Thats only going to spread the damage out, not block it. These people need helmets that enclose the entire head. I guess some kind of space suit helmet that rests on the shoulders would work.
No joke, why not just use drone arty? The crew could even be stateside for all anyone cares since the loading and firing sequence will be taken care of by the robots, so no humans will get hurt.
Cost and you need someone there to maintain it. Drones in the sky work because flying is a very simple activity once you've overcome the engineering problem, while driving around and moving shit on the ground is not. It also helps that planes are inherently expensive so it's not a big cost difference to replace the life support system with the communications needed for drone duty.
I was thinking dropping the drone arty into position (by ground or air, doesn't matter) before the mission and watching them from the air with a QRF on standby in case they get attacked. Then when you're done send some supply trucks to come pick them up. Basically manage them like a shitty near future sci-fi RTS.
Then I'll just settle with a u dumb nigga. The future of artillery isn't using them as disposable assets, it's shooting and scooting before the counterbattery fire comes in.
If you could do automated arty, maybe a good option would be to have crews onsite but remote operating it from a couple hundred yards away, maybe even in an enclosed control vehicle.
I don't know if it's hydrostatic shock, but your brain is vibrating in your cranium, and the white and grey matter have different densities, causing them to vibrate differently and resulting in micro sheering of blood vessels.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255273/
Here's a study that includes some ww1 info.
I came into this thread to read about TBI and military fuckups and insteadhalf the thread is some retards posting /x/igger homoerotic ghost wank
nah bro its ghosts.
Only ghost I'm interested in is the ghost of Christmas past showing me what life would be like if I didn't chronically masturbate to hentai.
can the ghost of christmas present show me all the best hentai please
>a few thousand explosions or blows to the head can make you a violent lunatic
>we only found out a few decades ago
>we're still finding more high risk groups
It's honestly amazing how well we did in the 20th century given how many people had severe brain damage.
>Do you ever hear about russian artilleryman having visions and breaking down from seeing ghosts?
But anon vodka does that every day when they aren't at war.
Don't forget lead exposure from paint and fuels.
>PTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSDPTSD
Holy shit, shut the fuck up you fucking retards.
The article is about actual BRAIN DAMAGE caused by firing huge artillery guns constantly. It has fucking nothing to do with PTSD. PTSD is only mentioned because these guys were INCORRECTLY diagnosed with it.
wait, how does one attain brain damage from fiting artillery, I'm genuinely curious
and no, I'm not gonna read and articles, I just wanna know if the shockwaves are the ones that actually cause the damage
Basically getting punch drunk, but with shock waves.
Concussive force is lethal.
Repeated concusions from the shock waves.
I suspect also the mass exposure to unburned propellant. Some propellants disperse known carcinogens and heavy metals. Guided rounds also have thermal batteries that, upon activation, release fumes. Could be.
Funnily enough they call the unburnt propellant you breathe in ‘wolf pussy’ and I remember seeing a buddy whos RTOing wearing wolf pussy blackface from sitting downwind of the tube. We’re so fucked lol
T ex artilleryman
doesn't that stuff contain a lot of nitro groups? it'll probably get you pretty high and/or relax your butthole
No, it's a non story. There are no physical signs of TBIs in these individuals. However they ARE at the fucking PRIME age for schizphrenia symptons to begin showing.
We are dealing with paranoid schizophrenia, not TBIs here.
Absolute retard. Those explosions caused shellshock in ww1 and 2. Gtfo
Strange how they got multiple schizos per battery
>There are no physical signs of TBIs in these individuals.
Yeah because there are no physical signs of TBI unless you autopsy their brains.
>1918
>soldiers with PTSD get misdiagnosed as having shell shock
>2023
>soldiers with shell shock get misdiagnosed as having PTSD
Has he considered, I dunno, fucking the ghost?
I mean when everything else has seemingly failed, maybe give the B the D?
concussions cause scaring on the brain.
these injuries are brain damage.
they've already figured out using mushroom derived drugs and therapy can fix this. they knew decades ago. it costs too much money so soldiers just keep suiciding. far cheaper for America.
https://www.hqmc.marines.mil/Portals/61/Users/019/71/4371/Overpressure%20Study%20Report%2020191025.pdf?ver=Nta6RKsuKvaHCTG_HrY1MQ%3D%3D
You are drafted into the Russian army. You are given a choice.
You can join the infantry
Or you can join the artillery.
Which do you choose?
Infantry. At least when i surrender i wont get raped and tortured as much
And heavy metal exposure. And bad posture while lifting heavy things.
And bad diet and horrible sleep schedule. Its almost like getting sniped by a hadji or getting drone striked is preferable to being a zogbot.
no, it's a curse attack
iran has really good wizards
I lied about my PTSD on a shitty deployment in Afghanistan as a fobbit due to random IDF. Guess who got extra neet buxs for the rest of their life
>Its g-ghosts!
Actual /x/ autism
Big boom make brain mushy
Brain see funny things
Recoilless launchers like the Carl Gustaf have a risk of the user developing TBI from it being used too much and people in this thread are surprised artillery will do it too?
How come there are no reports of artillery soldiers in WW1 experiencing the same thing?
Shell Shock