Could the US military defeat the Old Ones? Posted on March 4, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor Could the US military defeat the Old Ones?
An organic creature of that size would collapse under it's own weight due to gravity, so yeah we could defeat the so-called "Old Ones"
perhaps it is using the water for buoyancy
or is made of elements that do not work that way
And they are not all of such gargantuan proportions
>Innsmouth, Massachusetts (February 3, 1928)
>U.S Marines raid a temple of the Esoteric Order of Dagon and fight off its cult members made up of Deep Ones and their hybrids. One of them, a high priest attempts to escape through a secret doorway.
You got the Civil War one?
>Battlefield of Chickamauga (Sep 20, 1863)
>A platoon of the 35th Indiana, battered and cut off by advancing Confederate forces, fighting for their lives against a host of ravenous ghouls coming to feast on the dead.
Based ghouls fighting the good fight because they don't care what color you are as long as you turn green and black when you die.
Do you have any more artists or pieces of work? I'm planning to run a delta green campaign
I mean isn't that basically what happened in Innsmouth when the army threw explosives into the sea to seal the caves?
This reminds me of Bloodborne
>perhaps it is using the water for buoyancy
The part above the waterline would still have the same problem. Square Cube Law is a bitch.
>or is made of elements that do not work that way
We've discovered every element up to around ~120. Anything bigger than that will have a half life measured in fractional nanoseconds.
It occurs to me from the OP picture:
If Cthulu's heart isn't at most 14 meters above the waterline (in his crotch?), his blood would boil from the vacuum pressure of being sucked up that high.
Don't try to scientifically explain Cthulu; it only works if there's magic, in which case, questions of what would happen are anybody's guess (i.e. whatever the author decides).
For my purposes, I've decided that Cthulu's weakness is 2mm Kolibri.
you assume their physiology is like ours and their biology work like ours
Anyone here saying that the US military could defeat the old ones have missed the point. Even defeating the physical bodies doesn't matter, what matters is the immaterial the incomprehensible
The whole point of Cthulu is the incompressible.
These pics are pretty phenomenal, sauce?
a deviant art link is provided for the last one
>A new series of illustrated plates from a recently released book, "Cthulhu Wars" by Osprey Publishing. I worked on these a couple years back but because release of the book was severely delayed for some reason unknown to me I am only able to show post them up here now. Not a fan of Lovecraft's work but I honestly had a lot of fun working on these and learned some things about the Cthulhu Mythos. I hope you guys like them.
Mucho appreciado anon, I am apparently blind. I didn't even know Osprey did anything other than the realistic military stuff.
But they already did?
After the shitshow that was the 1928 raid on Innsmouth, Delta Green was made to protect the world from what shouldn't be known.
It's officially a part of the U.S. government it's more like a secret society of like-minded individuals with a goal, a conspiracy.
They aren't glowies, since the CIA itself has no knowledge of Delta Green but Delta Green often hires from federal agencies and special forces due to their skill sets on top of being able to handle the stress and danger.
This doesn't mean they don't hire academics, so your anthropologists, mathematicians, and engineers.
However there's one operation where if you're too much of a smart boy, they'll take you off the roster; don't want another Isaac Clarke and Nolan Stross.
/tg/ has some threads about it from time to time and the player's handbook/agent's handbook is free.
I think one of the coolest parts is that you have to explain how your character will deal with stress after the mission, IF you want to deal with the stress because you can always just internalize the pain.
Now that I think about it, Delta Green is like if you were rolling around in the Mystery Machine but with Glocks in your waistband and a fake DEA badge on your hip.
not officially a part*
>It's officially a part of the U.S. government
The fun part about DG is that this part varies depending on your campaign's position on the timeline, leading to a lot of different ways to run a game.
>1928-1969: Official US agency until a botched operation in Southeast Asia
>1969-2001: After being disbanded, DG agents continue the fight as an illegal conspiracy full of cowboy cops while its rival agency MJ-12 still gets to work with US government support
>2001-present: MJ-12 is disgraced and taken over by DG agents to become the state-sanctioned "Program" half of DG. Some cowboy-era agents don't like the glow of the Program and continue to uphold the illegal conspiracy as the "Outlaws" half of DG.
Um this is gay
says the chud loving zoomer
Old Ones are not organic, though
their Shoggoth servitors aren't
That's a good point, my initial thought about old ones is there are more things than just the old ones to compete with. Shit even playing CDDA migo's say shit to fuck with your head you hear them and think it's people screaming for help you hear them yelling for it, and a bunch of noise outside your safe house in the woods right outside town. Waited for a day to see if it'd go away, crept outside a night later from a backwindow other side of the building, fucker jumped me out of no where, ran out front stole a car and ran him over with it but I was like 3/4th's dead, he managed to open one of the car doors and hop on the car so I smashed it to shit till it died. Went back and looked the area I heard all the talking migo had slaughtered a shit load of things on that side of the building, anything living. Corpses everywhere. That's just a migo most old things would drive you nuts before they ever attack
You ever figure the wilds are all that's left for them to avoid us?
Said creature is strong enough to support its own mass and can even fly
>collapse under it's own weight due to gravity,
No it wouldn't. There may be an issue with heat dissipation. But organic structures are more than capable of supporting loads of any size
>doesn't know the cube squared law
>fucking extra-dimensional supernatural creature
>obeying human laws of physics
tell me, oh learned one, how does one square a cube?
>how does one square a cube?
It's called a sixth power, dummy.
>An organic creature of that size
Are you talking about the Americans or the Old One?
Horror media is the gayest shit of all time. If you actually face danger and live through it, retarded bullshit monsters will just seem like a joke made by people who don't go outside
What if the monsters were part of the horror
>Kampong Cham, Cambodia (August 20, 1968)
>A MACV-SOG special forces team hunkered down in the ruins of an old temple is surrounded by a horde of attacking Tcho-Tcho tribesmen and a mysterious Oblong Swimmer emerging from the sawgrass. Nearby a .50 cal team lays down suppressive fire from the temple parapet as the rest of the team falls back.
>Mount Leng-e Mulla Aman, Afghanistan (October 31, 2007)
>US Delta Force assaulting the Temple of Leng in the mountains of Afghanistan. A swarm of Mi-Go bursts forth from the temple to attack the soldiers in Blackhawks while the Men of Leng exchange fire with the rests of the recon team on the ground. High in the sky an AC-130U Spectre gunship unloads on the temple defenders but it's shells veers and bows off into strange directions as if warped by some unknown gravity field.
here have fun:
Ghost + Viking micro vs Vipers
I read Colder War just yesterday, was what made me make this thread
I kept expecting the Colonel to be revealed to be a cultist
Burning books isn't that hard.
Not if the monsters are a metaphor for the horrors people lived through.
You misunderstand what lovecraftian horror is all about. The monsters like Cthulhu, Shoggoths, and Elder Things represent the fact humanity is but a tiny blip in the geological time scale, and we are likely just a thin layer of plastic compared to greater forces.
>Horror media is the gayest shit of all time. If you actually face danger and live through it, retarded bullshit monsters will just seem like a joke made by people who don't go outside
I spent a year living my myself inside the artic circle both summer and winter. I tell you this and I spent more time alone in wilderness than n you ever will, it taught me there is supernatural horror and evil. Our ancient ancestors taught that demons lived in the wilderness. Don't argue with me, go yourself and find them. They are there and they are waiting for you.
>Our ancient ancestors taught that demons lived in the wilderness. Don't argue with me, go yourself and find them. They are there and they are waiting for you.
They cannot leave the wilderness unless they travel with you and after you have left you will experience their true nature. Be very careful
'Take care to be silent. Empty your mind. Attend to your meditation in the fear of God, whether you are resting or at work. If you do this, you will not fear the attacks of the demons."
this, they even tried this shit with Jesus on his desert trip.
You might be intrested in the theory of bicameral mind.
Basically, it says that our brain hemispheres acted much more independently until rather recently, possibly giving rise to another intelligence/sentience/mind inside us. As in, each hemisphere of our brain having the hardware to have their own mind running simultaneously (that's an abridged version of the explanation, it's a lot more complicated than that). Essentially, brains running another voice inside us, advicing us or working as a sort of "second-guesser" for our more dominant acting mind. And that maybe these "daemons" or "gods" described in ancient antiquity texts might have been this another inner voice.
And, that in desperate situations (or if brain chemistry is messed up, like in cases of mental illness) this atavistic second intelligence might activate again, starting to talk to us, or even appear as a hallusinatory person standing next to us. Or that children which are still going through their development and whose mind is not yet fully formed, might still have access to this another mind, which takes a form of "imaginary friend" that other people do not see.
Normally we no longer hear this other mind, but this kind of development where our minds have more or less merged (or the other inner mind has just gone quiet) happened very recently in history, only around a couple of thousand years ago.
This idea of a bicameral mind does offer some intresting explanations to lots of different hallusinations, Schizophrenia and personality diorders, but it's not yet a widely accepted scientific theory. They are doing more research on neural networks and neural science to study this hypothesis to get more concrete results. Still, an intresting idea.
I've actually read a lot on the subject anon and on the third man syndrome and other explanation but there were other things that happend to. There are things out there. All cultures at all times have said so and its true and that's my truth none of the more scientific weighted explanations worth because they do not explain the teeth marks or the food being taken or the reaction of the dog or any other things as when they turn vicious and start smashing things and you can see it. I have curled in a ball and cried in terror from it and it wanted me to run into the darkness and die there.
Fuck you I was trying to sleep
You realize that there are certain ways to tell you're samefagging, even on a board supposedly without IDs, right?
Well they don't work because nta.
Wasn't this the reason why the Mi-go from Delta Green were so interested in humanity?
Funnily enough I was reading the other day the End and the Death from the Horus Heresy series and to the question done by Sanguinius about why the Emperor created the primarchs, custodes and astartes with the capability to suffer and feel emotion He explained emotions allowed to save up too much biological pre-programming, I think Abnett read Delta Green and at least one editor read Jaynes theory.
An interesting theory but it does not significantly deviate much from Freud's concept of the Id, Ego, and Super-Ego. It's essentially describing those same features but in a Jungian way adding that extra layer of myth and ancestral memories over top of the Id. Which is also something that Freud accounted for but did not expand upon as much as his associate Jung.
I will definitely research this theory of mind more and I do appreciate you sharing it.
It already has some startling implications for the possibility of explaining the development of religions in the world and their cultural overlaps in certain regards.
there's definitely fucky something going on with hemispheres, man
lmao I spent 6 months inside a secluded farmstead as part of experimental archeology, we even extended it to 10 months because it was so comfy.
Nights got pretty bad around week 3-8 or so. We just aren't used to this kind of darkness and isolation. At times my imagination ran wild. But at the end it was literally just me, two cows, some sheep and a fuckton of chicken lmao.
Starting from month 3 it was a full on detox from modernity, greatly recommended, even though you may want to have a few friends along, otherwise the initial lack of flashing screens will drive you nuts with boredom.
So nah, no demons lmao.
Its not long enough and not the wilderness. Go out into the steppe or the desert for a year. They are also found high on mountains.
You can be the most sane man in the world and go out to the remote places alone and come back and be sane and you'll still know there are things out there that can take form, even speak or eat with you and thought at times seeming good are malign. There is no lie in that and no insanity. Its real as you are
You can laugh at me all you like but there is truth in what I am telling you and maybe some day there will be an explanation but they can take and eat food and you will see them walking beside you just like a man if they choose and dogs can see them too and fear them and hide from them and you know when they turn from nice to nasty and its like ice down your spine
Stop you're scaring me
>a nasty bout of cabin fever kickstarted my schizophrenia, ergo you're a gay
nice try skinwalker.
You might as well just say all novels are gay. Go ahead, try it on, you earned it.
All representative and abstract art, drama, comedy, tragedy-- all of theater, oral tradition, prose, poetry, operas, orchestras, engravings, carvings, pottery, stomp, basket weaving, skrimshaw, sand art -- it's seriously all gay as fuck and representative of people and societies whose time is wasted navel-gazing and jacking off.
The ability to effectively interact with the symbolic is the most vital human trait and you're a huge morongay.
Mashallah habibi you are too based for the crying children here brother
If you cannot out-gun them, out-bug them
>If you cannot out-gun them, out-bug them
Cthulu vs amerimutts - Cthulu gets hot
Cthulu vs chinks - Cthulu gets eaten
But the nuke is miss, anyway military horror novel seems a very niche group. Anyone here know recommendation for novel.
Theres monster hunter series. But i read 1st book and decide this is too much gay+self insert by author. Is there better ones out there
No. The Old Ones are more a universal force than a adversary, it's like asking can the US military defeat entropy or the strong nuclear force.
We're fucking trying
Dumb question. A more interesting one is if the old ones could defeat Afghanistan.
Probably. They would have no issue killing everyone. “Genocide” isn’t a concept they are concerned with.
Really it becomes a question of how much damage small arms do
>defeat the Old Ones?
OPtard still thinks all those subterranean nuke detonations out in the Pacific and then outside LasVegas in the 50s and 60s were "tests".
R'lyeh is now green glowing glass.
This man has an Antarctica Medal in his rack
>Op Mountains of Madness was a genocide
Dunno, could an Old One withtand a blast from a phase conjugate Bose-Einstein condensate positronium annihilation gamma ray laser?
If you mean
>Lazyfag Old Ones fully manifested and actually trying to do smth
>Their children, ayy lmaos + cultist legions?
Elder Things BTFOd cthulhufags so there's a chance
Didn't Cthulhu canonically get knocked the hell out for an unknown period of time likely measured in centuries or more after getting run over by a steamship?
Nah, he rebuilt himself although it took enough time for Johansen to flee, nowadays an interesting theory is that in truth Cthulhu's body is just a mental projection from a cosmic entity which is only allowed due specific star configurations, other theories suggest it's basically some nebular dust and not the position in the stars what is blocking R'lyeh from emerging.
So no, nuking Cthulhu won't work because he will simply rebuild his body by forcing his will into matter.
Didn't he get knocked out by a boat? Yeah I think a JDAM or fifty (just to make sure) would be enough.
You go to sleep for 10 million years and wake up without bedsores the size of small continents. Try it.
If we go by tabletop rules, then yes, you can "defeat" them if you have enough explosives or do something crazy like summoning a rival Old One on top of the first and having them duke it out. It rarely leads to a permanent victory, though. And the presence of even bigger cosmic bullshit (the Outer Gods) means that humanity is still screwed.
It's a well known fact that Old Ones are weak to dick.
AAAAAAAA SAVE ME moronMAN
I'd Ph'nglui her mglw'nafh.
>Anime girl with minor differences
>Cthulhu with tits
The military shot down the Giant of Kandahar in Afghanistan a few years ago. Giants are old ones, right?
Imagine being a Marine and just hearing this brutal roar from a cave and then a literal tree impaling your squadie in the chest. Man I would lose my composure
i wouldn't. i'd just piss my pants
A real man would shit his pants and be holding down the trigger uncontrollably despite the weapon's direction until the colon has ceased violent evacuation.
>until the colon has ceased violent evacuation.
Coming soon to an online store near you, the hit FPS game F.E.A.R.: Fudge Expulsion Assists Retaliation.
Every time I see this dude I think about the Scotsman from Samurai Jack
WHAT DO YA THINK OF THAT, MISTER SANITY-ROLLIN', OPERA-ATTENDIN', PROGRAM-APPROVED, ARC-DREAMING, GREY PUPPET, SHAN-BRAINED
How would the VDV handle the Old Ones?
A really good short story about Great Old Ones and late cold war era military: http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm
I kept expecting The Colonel to be revealed as the leader of a cult trying to awaken the old ones and destroy humanity
That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.
The US military communes with Nodens and other ancient Gods. Surely they can be convinced to lend their aid against an Old One threat.
Do the old ones die like flesh beings?
I think not, you're not simply fighting a Kaiju. Cosmic horrors are not something that can be fought.
Kaiju themselves are basically unkillable. They are very similar to Old Ones in concept.
That depends on who's writing them, since Old Ones tend to operate on school playground "nuh-uh, I actually have infinity+1 anti-instant-death shields" Calvinball rules whenever they're not being dabbed on by Thompsons and WWI-era submarine torpedoes
>operate on school playground "nuh-uh, I actually have infinity+1 anti-instant-death shields" Calvinball rules
This is why PrepHole are a bunch of bitch moron gays. This shit is fucking retarded.
I'm pretty sure you could transmute the entire Earth's mass into antimatter and it wouldn't be powerful enough to kill Lovecraft's old gods.
If whale hunters can do it, the US military can too
Cthulhu got run over by a fucking tramp freighter and promptly fucked off and went back to sleep. Our tech is way better now.
We've had anti-gravity craft since before the Civil War, fuck around find out hellspawn
>they missed with a nuke
Not as fast as a steamboat.
I don't think that second one is going to miss.
So bascially, the creatures cannot be killed by nukes or explosives because they live off of it.
Then why not drop cold hard tungsten rod on those fuckers?
Or fire depleted uranium APFSDS from tanks?
Pierce through their skull and punch holes inside the brains.
Crash hypersonic missiles without warheads up their ass.
If all fails, leave Earth and detonate it.
they also live off of kinetic energy
This is when shits starts getting grade school recess levels retarded.
> uuuuuh nuh uh! You can't kill me! My super special dark magic protects me again nukes, and bombs, and tanks, and space bombs, and space lasers, and guns, and jets and you have to do what I say!
Fuck off cthalimari, I'm sure that rod from god will be """beyond your comprehension""" when its impacting your brain at mach 13. Or maybe you'd prefer a XXL version of a ninja bomb down your throught to ruin that oh so wondeful infernal voice of yours we all need to be so scared of oh boohoo. Once we smoke your ass I can guarantee your rotting """other worldly corpse""" will be feeding every hungry mouth for the next decade. So not only will your """peak""" performance bottomless fathoms looking ass body be a fun moving target range for the latest up and coming arsenals the world has to offer you'll also get to enjoy the endless conveys of your supposed slaves slicing, dicing and savoring your barbecued flesh and organs. So come on out you fucking TV monster movie reject, let your little pissant dick sucking cult call you up. Come see the warm welcome you'll get.
Cthulhu lost to a fucking wooden boat so yes
>Be elder things
>More and more illegal aliens arrive on Earth
>Barely alive after all this shit
How do you stop Shoggoth rebellion?
Serpent men, deep ones, and humans are the only natives here, we need to form a military alliance to put Nyarlathotep in his place and establish the cult of Yig as a global faith.
Fuck that noise. They have to go, too. I have had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking planet.
I agree, we don't need the serpent men.
>They have to go, too.
What the fuck did w- I mean they ever done to you, you fucking goyim?
No the humans are right we don't need you.
>No one has mentioned Delta Green
Man I'm disappointed in all of you
All you had to do was Ctrl+F "delta green" to find that other anons had posted about it earlier in the thread.
I've nutted to this webm so many times.
You need help.
Yeah, you just telefrag it.
WHO DO YOU THINK THE USA WORKS FOR LOL
Aint no squid ever called me goy.
>Strongest military in the world
>Rapid progress in technology
Founding Fathers sold out US to Mi-Go's
I always chuckle when I think back to the original War of the Worlds novel by H.G. Wells: the Martians in that novel would have been absolutely annihilated by human military technology circa 1950 and beyond. Humanity would then retaliate by nuking the Mars.
It should be remembered that War of the Worlds was never intended to stand forever against every military innovation that occurred throughout the 21st century. Martian tactics were more or less WW1 level (mecha not withstanding), and thus something that HG Wells should be applauded for predicting. The entire point of the novel was to parody similar novels of the time which had France or Germany invade England, only to be fought off by superior British gumption. That's why there are sections where characters dream of using fighting machines against Martians, when clearly this is an absurd idea and the reality is the Martians would not be easily defeated by their own technology.
>throughout the 21st century
20th century, excuse me
I’m most familiar with the anti imperial anti colonial nature of the Text being “what if someone did to us what we have been doing to others” in which case the power scaling was devised to mirror that, as even European powers took losses in their conquest of the world.
Wells also predicted the bombing of WWII
>The entire point of the novel was to parody similar novels of the time which had France or Germany invade England, only to be fought off by superior British gumption.
Lol this, there was a book (I think it was called the Battle of Dorking or something, was published in the 1870s or so) where an unnamed German-speaking country invades England and basically did the Blitz with a fleet of airships. The entire point of this book was fearmongering and saber-rattling, not unlike the purpose of the CoD franchise today. In this light, War of the Worlds could be compared to Spec Ops: The Line, in that the point of both is to squat down and take a huge dump all over these propagandist works of fiction.
In the original conceptions of the novels, probably. Most of the time the Big scary old ones need human agents to start cults and preform rituals and all sorts of McGuffin tasks. Thanks to things like the surveilance state doing things like starting unknown cults becomes much much harder. It comes down to whether or not the cultists can go undetected long enough to summon an old one or not. So the answer comes down to does humanity learn about the cultists before they can reach critical mass or not.
Or if it's one of those stories where the monster is just some intangible unstoppable abstract doom, then we are just fucked no matter what we do.
Pic related, best story.
Cthulhu got his ass kicked by some panicked sailer ramming his boat into his head. Lovecraft was never about super powerful beings it was about the implication humans weren't alone and significant. Also being Welsh is a horrible fate.
VDV on ctulhu head
Plant rpg with detonator
Buenas Dias Mandy
Mi8 picks us up
Fireworks in the sunset
>Nazis: Yes and we will never forget
>Old Ones: With nukes, untold casualties
>Rice Farmers and Shepherds: No
>American farmers: Definitely no
Funny story, that. Freaky shit went down in Vietnam and Cambodia that led to Delta Green being disgraced and disbanded during the Vietnam Humbug.
The USA is still the best place to live in the whole world
I never said it wasn't. I just wanted to talk about Delta Green.