could Russia's recent advances in Donbas be the result of the redeployment of VDV, Spetsnaz, and naval infantry forces in that area?

could Russia's recent advances in Donbas be the result of the redeployment of VDV, Spetsnaz, and naval infantry forces in that area?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >could
    Could? Bro, the whole of Soledar is choke full of VDV redeployed from Kherson right now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Ukies wasted a perfectly good opportunity to choke out a main Russian contingent but Zelensky thought “muh manpower preservation” so they took the slow method.
      Now Kherson gets shelled anyways and the VDV push in the Donbass grinder.
      Political decisions have their consequences.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, Wagner didn't do shit. Its probably the result of them trying to focus all of their troops to one area in hopes it will be used against bakhmut. It can either be good or bad in the long run due to various reasons.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No its only Wagner there + artillery.
    This has been said more than once.
    The Russian army is now concentrated in other directions + many of them are now in Belarus.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine is gonna need those light tanks soon. Kek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based on Russia's performance so far they have 7-8 months before they might get close to Kramatorsk and Slovyansk.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No its only Wagner there + artillery.
      +30k vdv

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pretty sure vdv is there too
      https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1612101703930617858
      https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1612761463550103555

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        those tweets say backhmut not soledar.
        I mean they are both close to each other so there might be VDV at soledar too

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the guys in the 2nd video mention heavy fighting with russian paratroopers in soledar, there's other mentions of them operating up in or around soledar too

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh my bad

            https://i.imgur.com/7SznBA4.jpg

            >in return for cheap gas
            Europe will never agree to this. Jesus, vatniks are on hopium overdose. The Russian economy is dead, and it's not coming back. Even Russians themselves are starting to realise this.

            Nobody in Europe wants their gas anymore. It's just asking to be blackmailed by them when they inevitably do the next chimpout.

            i disagree tbh. People, leaders, countries are all very fickle. Russia still has a lot to offer on the international stage including on trade (we still see Germany's reluctance to cancel nord stream with russia). The emotions surrounding this war will cease and the lack of principles and values westerners hold will come to light again.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                just childish like most of this board now

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He said, after shitting up the board with multiple threads for most of the evening and getting rekt in every thread he made.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              bruh reluctance to cancel nord stream?
              It literally got blown up, any german politician that'd start talking about repairing it in the next few decades would commit political suicide by doing so

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No its only Wagner there + artillery
      t. I get info obly from Wagner telegram
      Get real.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my dude there's telegram vids of them in Soledar. The last units of VDV are dying, as we speak, to take hold of half a town they've been trying to take for 5 months now. And they're still 10 km away from Bakhmut

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a hen out of a feather? The place isn't very big, is it significant in some other way? Bachmut itself doesn't seem to be strategically significant.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a massive PR win, but in the grand scheme of things even it's role on resupplying Bakhmut is overrated. There's no severaldonuts river to cut this time, and unlike Popasna, there's actual defenses behind Soledar.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's a massive PR win
        Is it even that? Lysychansk and severaldonuts was a much bigger win as to them it represented the liberation of Luhansk, and even that wasn't THAT big of a deal.
        Bakhmut is... smaller than Lysychansk, only one out of the many towns they need to take to fully "liberate" Donetsk, and it's barely 30kms from where the front was in february.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, consider Russia has been taking loss after loss since august

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it holds the line of which i forgot the name.

      What people tends to forget is that line has been built on since 2014, it's well fortified , entrenched etc etc

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's Slovyansk-Kramatorsk
        Bakhmut-Soledar was haphazardly fortified after what even vatniks forget was a massive xoxol fuckup in the Popasna breakthrough.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      'they're (russians and NATO alike) saying' after backhmut falls the rest of the Donbas should fall relatively quickly

      I don't know what is going on with supplies for ukraine but for two keeks i have seen ukie soldiers complaining on low ammo in the backhmut area. Maybe this is nation wide or this area particularly idk. I know NATO has been poor in supplying ammo so it may be a serious concern

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >vatnik's daydream is apparently now an official NATO press release
        Literally nobody, not even the most buck-broken russian milbloggers, thinks this

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I meant NATO supporters. Even here in the UK the Sky News anlayst who has been covering the war for them admitted this. And of course the russians believe this themselves. If you look at the actions and not the rhetoric from NATO and western apologists, they still see Russia as a threat despite the narratives of low resources, reserves and rusty guns. For example, Poland and Germany are both re-arming themselves despite people saying this is the end for Russia

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >For example, Poland and Germany are both re-arming themselves
            Germany isn't doing shit. Scholz is a liar and PR man. That massive defence budget? Quietly cancelled.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's more of a matter that the September Counteroffensive gave them an idea for how much ammunition they need to take/hold certain areas. Bakhmut's turned into SO MUCH of a meatgrinder that the Ukies expected munitions needs are being outstripped by the human wave tactics the Russians have been reduced to.

        It's a good and a bad sign. Good in that the Russians have been reduced to WWI-era barbarism. Bad in that the Ukies may actually run out of bullets before the Russians run out of mobiks.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I meant NATO supporters. Even here in the UK the Sky News anlayst who has been covering the war for them admitted this. And of course the russians believe this themselves. If you look at the actions and not the rhetoric from NATO and western apologists, they still see Russia as a threat despite the narratives of low resources, reserves and rusty guns. For example, Poland and Germany are both re-arming themselves despite people saying this is the end for Russia

        Bakhmut was a fallback position intended to buy time before the next main line of fortified defenses. That's been accepted for months.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe. I personally believe Russia will capture and hold the whole Donbas and if they don't try for Kiev again, it will be a 15-20 year never ending war of artillery bombardments from either side. The only resolution being a UN peace deal where Russia gets to keep its territory in return for cheap gas. And Putin will still be alive in a wheelchair

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody in Europe wants their gas anymore. It's just asking to be blackmailed by them when they inevitably do the next chimpout.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >in return for cheap gas
            Europe will never agree to this. Jesus, vatniks are on hopium overdose. The Russian economy is dead, and it's not coming back. Even Russians themselves are starting to realise this.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              they genuinely don't realize that europe isn't coming back to them again, they're clinging to the hope that some of the relatively good times of the 2010s will remain

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The only resolution being a UN peace deal where Russia gets to keep its territory in return for cheap gas
            fossil fuel is a dying industry and everybody in the industry knows it. the US has plenty of untapped deposits and oil prices are currently more than high enough to cover operation costs, but companies aren't investing in drilling new rigs because they will be operating profitably only in the short term. nobody wants to be the sucker that spends billions on infrastructure we might not be using at all in 10 years.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You think the technology advanced that much in that amount of time? No, this chart is factoring in govermnent subsidies. Of course renewable will look cheap when the fed is literally paying people to use it

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You think the technology advanced that much in that amount of time?
                never heard of Moore's law?
                >No, this chart is factoring in govermnent subsidies
                it's not and fossil fuels are subsidiesed way more than renewables it's not even close. there's huge political pressure for government to not let gas prices get too high. you really think you're paying full price for the stuff just because you're not getting a check in the mail?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > VDV
    Nonexistent
    > Spetznaz
    Busy in other parts of Ukraine. If not, nonexistent
    > Naval forces
    What the fuck would they be doing in Soledar
    It’s mostly Wagner that's responsible for the current mess. If I were Ukraine, I would go and heavily reinforce that area to push the moskals out.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >advances
    >piesky 2.0 village
    You went from Great Winter offensive rolls over Ukraine to Donbabwee village captured. Yeah

  7. 4 weeks ago
    T-I-G-E-R-S

    >Advances
    ?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eventually, the Russians will see a cauldron successfully form......around them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >recent advances
        Adorable

        They already did. There was a partial cauldron at Izyum, but many escaped or surrendered. But at Lyman it was different, they kept reinforcing it up to the last day, for some reason, right until Ukraine took control of the final road. And from there they blasted the vatniks for half a day, and after they realized they were fully surrounded, they tried to break out to Kremmina, which turned into a disorganized dash. Only a company or two stayed behind in Lyman to surrender. Very few, if any, made it through Ukrainian lines, with several thousand killed in 5-6 hours. They had no armor, no night vision, and in most cases not even stolen civilian vehicles.

        So, that's why they stopped talking about "cauldrons" even when they capture a village like soledar.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >could Russia's recent advances in Donbas be the result of massive amounts of reinforcements with actual training concentrated on one town
    The world may never know.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >could Russia's recent advances in Donbas be the result of the redeployment of VDV, Spetsnaz, and naval infantry forces in that area?
    lmfao, no.
    Wagner convicts are more than enough to ass-blast dumb shit ukrop-mobiks, who literally got yanked out of school or some nightclub, kicking and screaming.
    >imagine going from the civilian world on a tuesday, you get forcefully drafted on a wednesday, kicking+screaming, and on Thursday they put a gun in your hand and point you to a muddy field on the outskirts of a city taken over by an army of quadruple-felony cannibal murders and their shoe-less child-molester minesweepers.

    its absolutely fucking over for the ukraine. imagine failing your own fucking $100billion dollar offensive. imagine being the afu-cucks
    nato broke the bank for those gays, and they lost to literal, actual man-eating homosexual felons from Russia

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    56705815
    Is this bot? Seriously, this reads like some weird AI amalgamation of Google translated Ru telegram posts.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    perhaps, but also more likely the degradation of ukraine forces has reached a tipping point - can't expect to keep losing men and replacing them with conscripts while also losing equipment and expect to keep up with a russian army that is coming online.

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