That's more expensive that anywhere I've ever lived in the US
In fact, if Russian buying power was adjusted for wages, they should be paying like 20 cents per kg, but instead they overpay for food... wtf
Looked up online grocery shopping in Russia, prices on store 'utkonos' is 85 rubles, or $1.40 USD.
$2.84 per 4 lbs in my Oblast or $1.57 per kilo. Higher than Russia, but the average wage here is 10x higher than theirs so as % of income, sugar is pricey af over there comparatively. This is a moronic argument however, cuz their housing and healthcare costs are peanuts compared to ours.
0.89€ in Germany at Aldi and Lidl.
Prices will go down for some time after the sugar beet campaign is over (end of fall). Why is sugar so pricey in Russia? Is it a tax thing?
I work from home, just got a huge raise. I don't know what sugar or gas costs, and I don't care, I'm gonna pay anyway. I can honestly say I have NEVER looked to see what the bag of sugar in my cart costs.
Post Snake Island
Post Northern Front
Post Moskva
Post Odessa landings
Post functioning air power
Post intact ammo depots
Post PGMs
Post missiles that actually hit their targets
Post Russian soldier that hasn't had their butthole resized
Post negative HIV test
Post relatives over the age of 70
Post encrypted comms
Post unexpired rations
Post optics
Post NVGs
Post an AA system that hasn't routinely gotten dunked on
Post living VDV
Post sugar
Post bread
Post non defaulted currency
Post domestic industry that can process raw goods
Post domestic semiconductor industry
Post what you think Russia will gain even if they control 100% of Ukrainian soil
Post Baltic Sea control
Post how much you've begged literal third worlders for your artillery shells back
Post river crossings without double digit casualty rates
Post aircraft not routinely dunked by MANPADs
Post Post Hostomel
Post sensor suites in a non potato resolution
Post Officers that aren't dead
Post a competent NCO corps
Post Kyiv
Post intact supply trains
Post control of the Black Sea
Post Russians being a-okay with returning to an pre-Industrial agrarian economy
Post Finland and Sweden not being NATO members
Post how you feel about being dependent on China and India
Post crying babushkas over the losses of their sons
Post the Oligarchs sitting comfy while they destroy the legacy of your entire culture
Post how Russians feel about being viewed the world over as one tiny step better than North Korea
Post police blackbagging protestors
Post families being denied the money for the death of their sons
Post literally any positive outcome Russian can expect to have even if they 'win'
Stalingrad was Russia's Stalingrad.
Russia is facing multiple Stalingrads and Groznys as the attacker every time they assault a major city where the defenders are well prepared.
Some Russians predicted the course of this war before it began and were ignored: https://russiandefpolicy.com/2022/02/07/mass-fire-strike-on-ukraine/
Khodarenok is seething because he was kicked out of the big boy club. Same thing with Girkin. Only when they become wronged by the regime do they speak out the truth.
Well the big clue in all this is the Russian force composition, they do- >Motorised Infantry >Airborne/motorised infantry >Naval Infantry
That's it, the thing that kicks people out of a city or gets you into one, all the nooks, crannies and firing positions is... Light Infantry
Russia doesn't have a light infantry program, it doesn't maintain any notable amounts of them in its armed forces and as a result, you get boys in tanks and light armour vehicles go charging in and burnt into crispy critters by... light infantry with launchers and gun positions. Same reason they get smashed into those fights against light infantry in cities when they attack them, their op-for isn't reliant on armour, or artillery or air, they're already in their ideal environment full of either vast amounts of hard cover or enough stuff to conceal them for extended periods of time and terrain which just doesn't favour armour or any kind of vehicles.
But the big kicker as we've seen, is they just don't have enough infantry full stop!
>they just don't have enough infantry
This. You have to bombard cities, if the ukie rats hide behind civilians. Russia refuses to do this. They're pleased the hohols climbed out of the rat holes and massed for this fake offensive, and are slaughtering them. They'll climb back into their rat holes soon, and hide behind women and children.
I feel bad nobody replied to this perfectly created bait, here you go anon, I'll bite. Please tell us more about your worldviews shaped by russian propaganda made for mouthbreathers
russia has 35-40 BGTs and a million civilians in an area that can be reached by Ukraines artillery and that is supplied via 3 broken bridges. It will take a while and will be ugly for civilians
Na, but it is a nice opportunity to overstretch Russian lines even further and have a go at undersupplied Russian troop concentrations who are short on ammo and fuel. I highly doubt Ukraine goes for some large scale attack opperations but rather grinding them down constantly and thus reducing RuA combat capabilities overall.
That would be more Mariupol. Seriously, just take the 1993 film Stalingrad's soundtrack and play it over any combat footage from Azovstahl and you get the same vibe.
No, because the Russians won't stay and fight. At least the Germans fought and held out awhile. But Russians are pussies and will run as soon as they get the chance.
They already are. Holding the west bank of the river is hopeless for Russia in the long term. Even if it takes months or years for Ukraine to reclaim, it's inevitable. Additionally, the city provides no strategic or economic value to Russia in its current state: the port is useless because it's cut off from everywhere else and Russia can still cut off the Dnipro via its positons on the east bank. If it wasn't the only regional capital Russia managed to take, they would have simply withdrawn. Logjamming a bunch of troops there makes no sense, especially when they are sorely needed in other areas.
Russia did not invade Ukraine. There are no Russian troops in Ukraine just like in 2014.
**Efi Koutsokosta, Euronews: "**Is Russia ready to invade Ukraine or is it all a bluff?"
Vladimir Chizhov, Russia's ambassador to the EU: "It's not an issue of readiness. Russia has no plans to invade either Ukraine or any other country. It's a bluff created not in Russia, but in those countries that are now spreading this hysterical message, I would say, across Europe and the world."
Nope. Kherson would be Ukraine’s Stalingrad, as the country would implode after failing to capture this one city before winter.
Post sugar prices.
40 rubles per kilogram
Now your turn
Post gas prices
That's not a picture with a timestampn and I don't believe you. Begone outsider. Stupid thread.
You can’t take photos in stores, fsb (food security bureau) doesn’t take kindly to it
One KwH has been credited towards you utilities allowance
americans don't need to sacrifice their children to a mongol so they can drive shitboxes with no air bags or anti-lock braking lol
I own an EV. It costs me about $5 per 140 miles
That's actually surprisingly cheap.
It will be cheaper than a gasoline powered car after 150k miles. The upfront costs are insane.
How long will it run for?
nonsense, a gasoline car is going to cost a lot more in maintenance after 80k miles.
>I own an EV
Nice you’ve spent more buying a car than people will pay for gas. You showed him
Not the guy who owns one but wtf do you mean? A Nissan Leaf is pretty similarly priced to a budget gas car.
$19,400 for a brand new Toyota Prius back in 2019. Not expensive at all. The 2022 model is, like, ~$23,000.
I have to gas up maybe once every six or seven weeks, and it only takes like $20-25 dollars to fill the tank.
Ain't technological progress great?
Looked up online grocery shopping in Russia, prices on store 'utkonos' is 85 rubles, or $1.40 USD.
That's more expensive that anywhere I've ever lived in the US
In fact, if Russian buying power was adjusted for wages, they should be paying like 20 cents per kg, but instead they overpay for food... wtf
If you think the sugar prices are bad, don't look up how much strawberries (local, not imported) cost this year.
Vatniks deserve the rope.
$2.84 per 4 lbs in my Oblast or $1.57 per kilo. Higher than Russia, but the average wage here is 10x higher than theirs so as % of income, sugar is pricey af over there comparatively. This is a moronic argument however, cuz their housing and healthcare costs are peanuts compared to ours.
what oblast? wisconsin oblast?
0.89€ in Germany at Aldi and Lidl.
Prices will go down for some time after the sugar beet campaign is over (end of fall). Why is sugar so pricey in Russia? Is it a tax thing?
It's a "We pissed off all our important trade partners and our imports are cratering because of it" thing. Russia ain't exactly a big sugar producer.
$17.60/MCF NG and $3.45/gal of gasoline
I work from home, just got a huge raise. I don't know what sugar or gas costs, and I don't care, I'm gonna pay anyway. I can honestly say I have NEVER looked to see what the bag of sugar in my cart costs.
If its less than $10 and you buy it less often than daily, I never even consider the price. Its basically just "free" in my mind.
Same, God bless America
This is mind blowing. I’ve never once in my life known what the cost of sugar per lb is, and I can safely say I never will.
>Post gas prices
Post chairman of Lukoil. Oh wait, he just jumped out of a 6th floor window.
theyre back to prewar prices
cope
>40 rubles per kilogram
You literally picked this off Google without checking that the data is from 2020.
moron.
Post Snake Island
Post Northern Front
Post Moskva
Post Odessa landings
Post functioning air power
Post intact ammo depots
Post PGMs
Post missiles that actually hit their targets
Post Russian soldier that hasn't had their butthole resized
Post negative HIV test
Post relatives over the age of 70
Post encrypted comms
Post unexpired rations
Post optics
Post NVGs
Post an AA system that hasn't routinely gotten dunked on
Post living VDV
Post sugar
Post bread
Post non defaulted currency
Post domestic industry that can process raw goods
Post domestic semiconductor industry
Post what you think Russia will gain even if they control 100% of Ukrainian soil
Post Baltic Sea control
Post how much you've begged literal third worlders for your artillery shells back
Post river crossings without double digit casualty rates
Post aircraft not routinely dunked by MANPADs
Post Post Hostomel
Post sensor suites in a non potato resolution
Post Officers that aren't dead
Post a competent NCO corps
Post Kyiv
Post intact supply trains
Post control of the Black Sea
Post Russians being a-okay with returning to an pre-Industrial agrarian economy
Post Finland and Sweden not being NATO members
Post how you feel about being dependent on China and India
Post crying babushkas over the losses of their sons
Post the Oligarchs sitting comfy while they destroy the legacy of your entire culture
Post how Russians feel about being viewed the world over as one tiny step better than North Korea
Post police blackbagging protestors
Post families being denied the money for the death of their sons
Post literally any positive outcome Russian can expect to have even if they 'win'
25 thousands penises per kilograms
21 thousands pensises per litre
How many more weeks to Kiev?
Nothing of value will implode.
Stalingrad was Russia's Stalingrad.
Russia is facing multiple Stalingrads and Groznys as the attacker every time they assault a major city where the defenders are well prepared.
Some Russians predicted the course of this war before it began and were ignored: https://russiandefpolicy.com/2022/02/07/mass-fire-strike-on-ukraine/
Khodarenok is seething because he was kicked out of the big boy club. Same thing with Girkin. Only when they become wronged by the regime do they speak out the truth.
Well the big clue in all this is the Russian force composition, they do-
>Motorised Infantry
>Airborne/motorised infantry
>Naval Infantry
That's it, the thing that kicks people out of a city or gets you into one, all the nooks, crannies and firing positions is... Light Infantry
Russia doesn't have a light infantry program, it doesn't maintain any notable amounts of them in its armed forces and as a result, you get boys in tanks and light armour vehicles go charging in and burnt into crispy critters by... light infantry with launchers and gun positions. Same reason they get smashed into those fights against light infantry in cities when they attack them, their op-for isn't reliant on armour, or artillery or air, they're already in their ideal environment full of either vast amounts of hard cover or enough stuff to conceal them for extended periods of time and terrain which just doesn't favour armour or any kind of vehicles.
But the big kicker as we've seen, is they just don't have enough infantry full stop!
>they just don't have enough infantry
This. You have to bombard cities, if the ukie rats hide behind civilians. Russia refuses to do this. They're pleased the hohols climbed out of the rat holes and massed for this fake offensive, and are slaughtering them. They'll climb back into their rat holes soon, and hide behind women and children.
I feel bad nobody replied to this perfectly created bait, here you go anon, I'll bite. Please tell us more about your worldviews shaped by russian propaganda made for mouthbreathers
russia has 35-40 BGTs and a million civilians in an area that can be reached by Ukraines artillery and that is supplied via 3 broken bridges. It will take a while and will be ugly for civilians
Na, but it is a nice opportunity to overstretch Russian lines even further and have a go at undersupplied Russian troop concentrations who are short on ammo and fuel. I highly doubt Ukraine goes for some large scale attack opperations but rather grinding them down constantly and thus reducing RuA combat capabilities overall.
That would be more Mariupol. Seriously, just take the 1993 film Stalingrad's soundtrack and play it over any combat footage from Azovstahl and you get the same vibe.
this
months of hard infantry combat over a wasteland of torn rebar and concrete
not until Volgograd is reclaimed as rightful Ukrainian clay
will you be my stalingrad?
No, because the Russians won't stay and fight. At least the Germans fought and held out awhile. But Russians are pussies and will run as soon as they get the chance.
I doubt they're that stupid to waste that many resources on kherson.
They already are. Holding the west bank of the river is hopeless for Russia in the long term. Even if it takes months or years for Ukraine to reclaim, it's inevitable. Additionally, the city provides no strategic or economic value to Russia in its current state: the port is useless because it's cut off from everywhere else and Russia can still cut off the Dnipro via its positons on the east bank. If it wasn't the only regional capital Russia managed to take, they would have simply withdrawn. Logjamming a bunch of troops there makes no sense, especially when they are sorely needed in other areas.
https://t.me/Oleg_Blokhin/54575
Russia did not invade Ukraine. There are no Russian troops in Ukraine just like in 2014.
**Efi Koutsokosta, Euronews: "**Is Russia ready to invade Ukraine or is it all a bluff?"
Vladimir Chizhov, Russia's ambassador to the EU: "It's not an issue of readiness. Russia has no plans to invade either Ukraine or any other country. It's a bluff created not in Russia, but in those countries that are now spreading this hysterical message, I would say, across Europe and the world."
Am I the only one wondering how Steve Zizou got involved in this? And, most importantly, whose side he is on?
I thought Stalingrad was Russias Stalingrad
No, Stalingrad was Stalin's Stalingrad. I mean its in the name.