Off-center weapons and maneuvering engine mountings. Having pylons on long arms prevents the enemy from disabling your whole weapons complement on one Salvo. Also mounting your maneuver thrusters on a longer moment arm allows for more angular velocity for less thrust energy.
But none of that are why the Klingon Bird of Prey has wings. It has them because wings are based and look cool.
every space battle starts with a style contest with the cooler looking ship getting to shoot first once the actual fighting begins, it's a more civilized approach to war
In the case of the Bird of Prey they are part of the warp drive and take the place of the nacelles found in other ships. The ship also has two warp cores for redundancy.
If push came to shove, the combined effort of ULA, SpaceX, and NASA could push out a functional Project Orion starship in 3 years. Our telescopes are (probably) good enough to see the ship coming.
>Our telescopes are (probably) good enough to see the ship coming.
How would any existing Earth telescope technology be able to defeat their cloaking devices?
A ship that can warp travel faster than light isn't detectable by any telescope we have, since they all rely on some form of electromagnetic wave either emitted from, or bounced off an object, returning to a receiver dish on earth. If the ship is moving faster than the EM waves, it'll arrive before you even detect it on approach.
No zero chance. It has no force projection that far into space. The only hope is making a rocket into a drone and hoping chemical propulsion can make it collide with it. We're helplessly inferior to any space born threat. Most of the human species doesn't want the rest to even go to space, they want to subjugate them to earth and use them for slave labour until the sun expands and destroys the earth. They don't want others to do or have more than them. They want to live in luxury until they die and erect monuments that would be engulfed by the sun. We should just make a space prison on the moon and eject people in stasis into a orbital collusion with the sun. If we haven't confronted another species as our threat our biggest threat is our species. It's possible to make advancements to inhabit other planets. I think if we defeat the globohomos it's possible humanity will explore the stars and find a way to live and other life. Earth would become a sort of habitat they keep animals for study in their habitat without trying to be obtrusive. While everyone else would migrate out further.
That's putting it mildly, but personal crisis aside. A single alien vessel has enough capability beyond any vessel we can ever hope to construct in our wildest dreams. Practically we're a sitting duck. We are ass up, straight up gays going to get butt raped by anything that can force project from space downward up our collective fucking asses. We're so fucking fucked, there isn't a gay enough term to describe how fucking gay this ass fucking is. There is no way to describe this that isn't some homo ass fucking.
>I think if we defeat the globohomo
You know you sound like a complete fucking asshole like everyone that uses that stale forced fucking anti-western meme. Now fucking have a nice day. The west has lifted more people out of poverty, brought more literacy, food, transport medical care to mankind than anything else ever. Fucking third world vermin scum
what is their ordinance, and plan?
they can wipe out all our satellites, and then what? we're not space traveling. that wont conquer us with that.
how much damage to the ground can they do from there?
how far away from earth do they have to be for accurate fire?
their cloaking tech is based on space engagements, im pretty sure some amateur with a telescope can figure out how to spot them from the ground
eventually the Klingons would need to beam down, and pretty sure a .45 can take care of them.
otherwise i dont think we currently have the tech to engage them in anything but low orbit, and they wil probably see it coming, unless we do some weird orbit shit that takes days to reach them and they dont expect it to be THAT slow. if they stay still, or stick or a route.
Assuming the Klingons are even remotely as cautious as the Federation, their transporters might be able to automatically detect and refuse to beam chemical/nuclear explosive material onboard.
What about 2 relatively harmless/useless chemicals...until they mix and turn into VX/sarin/soman etc.?
At least we find out if the klingos are immune to uber-Raid.
People do this kind of shit all the time in Star Trek, it's telling that they always have to use some uber-advanced magic tech bullshit to pull it off though.
>Assuming the Klingons are even remotely as cautious as the Federation, their transporters might be able to automatically detect and refuse to beam chemical/nuclear explosive material onboard.
watched the episode today where K'mpec dies and then a bomb goes off, they're about as good as the TSA at finding bombs
No, they would overwhelm anything we could send at them and crush us like the dumb primitive targs we are. We should just surrender immediately and pledge fealty to Kahless and the Empire.
are we talking on screen power levels or on paper stats? cause photon torpedos on screen have the firepower between a 60mm mortar and a 155mm
on paper they're supposed to have Megatron yeilds
We could kill them easily. >bait them into coming to Earth for an honorable duel >kill the fuck out of them when they land >reverse engineer their ship >colonize the stars >eradicate all Klingons
The Klingons are a lesser, degenerate species that must be wholly genocided. Their entire culture revolves around chimping out, from the personal level all the way up to the galactic level. They pride themselves on their martial prowess, but our magnificent race had already surpassed them in that regard back when we still thought the Earth was flat. To kill a Klingon is to perform a great service to the galaxy at large.
TOTAL KLINGON DEATH
What are the benefits of wings in space?
Off-center weapons and maneuvering engine mountings. Having pylons on long arms prevents the enemy from disabling your whole weapons complement on one Salvo. Also mounting your maneuver thrusters on a longer moment arm allows for more angular velocity for less thrust energy.
But none of that are why the Klingon Bird of Prey has wings. It has them because wings are based and look cool.
Radiators
If you put thrusters on them, you could turn very fast like a Starfury. Alternatively, you could use them as radiators.
that cockpit visible is god awful.
If the F-35 can let you look through the floor, I'm sure a 23rd century fighter can do the same
It's star trek so [quantum tachyon quantum quantum tachyon]
every space battle starts with a style contest with the cooler looking ship getting to shoot first once the actual fighting begins, it's a more civilized approach to war
In the case of the Bird of Prey they are part of the warp drive and take the place of the nacelles found in other ships. The ship also has two warp cores for redundancy.
For atmospheric flight.
>What are the benefits of wings in space?
a single ship can do triangulation without launching probes
It's cool as fuck
tachyon quantum metaphysical tachyons, anon.
If push came to shove, the combined effort of ULA, SpaceX, and NASA could push out a functional Project Orion starship in 3 years. Our telescopes are (probably) good enough to see the ship coming.
>Our telescopes are (probably) good enough to see the ship coming.
How would any existing Earth telescope technology be able to defeat their cloaking devices?
Yeah I'm sure you'd spot it travelling like 50x faster than the speed of light.
A ship that can warp travel faster than light isn't detectable by any telescope we have, since they all rely on some form of electromagnetic wave either emitted from, or bounced off an object, returning to a receiver dish on earth. If the ship is moving faster than the EM waves, it'll arrive before you even detect it on approach.
Nah, the disruptors would intercept any nukes we fired into orbit to get it.
>slide thread on the dot
Idi nahui
No zero chance. It has no force projection that far into space. The only hope is making a rocket into a drone and hoping chemical propulsion can make it collide with it. We're helplessly inferior to any space born threat. Most of the human species doesn't want the rest to even go to space, they want to subjugate them to earth and use them for slave labour until the sun expands and destroys the earth. They don't want others to do or have more than them. They want to live in luxury until they die and erect monuments that would be engulfed by the sun. We should just make a space prison on the moon and eject people in stasis into a orbital collusion with the sun. If we haven't confronted another species as our threat our biggest threat is our species. It's possible to make advancements to inhabit other planets. I think if we defeat the globohomos it's possible humanity will explore the stars and find a way to live and other life. Earth would become a sort of habitat they keep animals for study in their habitat without trying to be obtrusive. While everyone else would migrate out further.
jeez moron you're having a bad day
That's putting it mildly, but personal crisis aside. A single alien vessel has enough capability beyond any vessel we can ever hope to construct in our wildest dreams. Practically we're a sitting duck. We are ass up, straight up gays going to get butt raped by anything that can force project from space downward up our collective fucking asses. We're so fucking fucked, there isn't a gay enough term to describe how fucking gay this ass fucking is. There is no way to describe this that isn't some homo ass fucking.
>I think if we defeat the globohomo
You know you sound like a complete fucking asshole like everyone that uses that stale forced fucking anti-western meme. Now fucking have a nice day. The west has lifted more people out of poverty, brought more literacy, food, transport medical care to mankind than anything else ever. Fucking third world vermin scum
>space prison on the moon
> gulags in space
Fuck russia
yes because klingons aren't real and it's easy to beat things that don't exist
If they aren't real then how do we have pictures of them?
Checkmate evolutionist.
>cropped out the hands
that is clearly AI generated
its from one of the star trek games
>no railguns
dumbest "space" show ever.
Rail guns are the king of orbit. one startship can hold an entire planet hostage with a single railgun
Railguns are magnetic accelerators, which is also what particle accelerators are, which is what all guns in Star Trek are
expect your particles don't have the mass of a railgun dart and are pretty worthless when they defuse in an atmosphere.
rare chirstcuck win
Post your gun gay
what is their ordinance, and plan?
they can wipe out all our satellites, and then what? we're not space traveling. that wont conquer us with that.
how much damage to the ground can they do from there?
how far away from earth do they have to be for accurate fire?
their cloaking tech is based on space engagements, im pretty sure some amateur with a telescope can figure out how to spot them from the ground
eventually the Klingons would need to beam down, and pretty sure a .45 can take care of them.
otherwise i dont think we currently have the tech to engage them in anything but low orbit, and they wil probably see it coming, unless we do some weird orbit shit that takes days to reach them and they dont expect it to be THAT slow. if they stay still, or stick or a route.
Depending on the episode it's weapons can vaporize entire countries or have the punch of 155mm artillery guns.
No. They can hit us with anti matter torpedoes from space.
Or even easier just drop a large asteroid on us.
Are space force is in its infancy unless Bob Lazar is right.
Message them that they have no honor and should 1v1 us in melee combat.
1. Pretend to prostrate ourselves in subservience
2. Send "diplomatic envoy" to their ship
3. Envoy secrets powerful explosive device onboard
4. Suicide or remotely detonate device
Assuming the Klingons are even remotely as cautious as the Federation, their transporters might be able to automatically detect and refuse to beam chemical/nuclear explosive material onboard.
What about 2 relatively harmless/useless chemicals...until they mix and turn into VX/sarin/soman etc.?
At least we find out if the klingos are immune to uber-Raid.
People do this kind of shit all the time in Star Trek, it's telling that they always have to use some uber-advanced magic tech bullshit to pull it off though.
>Assuming the Klingons are even remotely as cautious as the Federation, their transporters might be able to automatically detect and refuse to beam chemical/nuclear explosive material onboard.
watched the episode today where K'mpec dies and then a bomb goes off, they're about as good as the TSA at finding bombs
F-35 would solo it easily
Star Trek honestly has the worst space ship designs I've ever seen in popular media.
It depends if they respond to our challenge of an honourable duel planetside and not just hiding out in orbit like a cowardly bitch.
Kinda owe them one for Gamma Serpentis.
Yes
>Could Humanity's military forces defeat a single Klingon Bird of Prey?
if we caught it with its shields down
Bro, we already shot down their drones ("objects") a few weeks ago, so we know they are coming.
No, they would overwhelm anything we could send at them and crush us like the dumb primitive targs we are. We should just surrender immediately and pledge fealty to Kahless and the Empire.
t. Koloth Smith of Sol-3 Capitol Region
are we talking on screen power levels or on paper stats? cause photon torpedos on screen have the firepower between a 60mm mortar and a 155mm
on paper they're supposed to have Megatron yeilds
>Megatron yields
We could kill them easily.
>bait them into coming to Earth for an honorable duel
>kill the fuck out of them when they land
>reverse engineer their ship
>colonize the stars
>eradicate all Klingons
The Klingons are a lesser, degenerate species that must be wholly genocided. Their entire culture revolves around chimping out, from the personal level all the way up to the galactic level. They pride themselves on their martial prowess, but our magnificent race had already surpassed them in that regard back when we still thought the Earth was flat. To kill a Klingon is to perform a great service to the galaxy at large.
TOTAL KLINGON DEATH
Tone it down a bit, there, Johnny Ringo.
Isn't that basically the mirror universe, where they killed the occupants and reverse engineered the first vulcan ship to land on the planet?
yeah bro because every single klingon would get out of the ship. get real.
> Kingons getting rolled
> Ship is a giant fucking cock.
> All weapons- Innefective
> Giant cock "Surrunder or die".
> Klingons of course "Die!"
>Giant cock "SO BE IT. COMMENCE MAXIMUM FUCK
"Klingon screams heard throughout the galaxy".
We got Michael Burnham and the power of math. We'll be fine
Humanity could probably produce powerful enough weapons to damage it, but I dont see how we would ever find or hit it
In practice this thing could show up in orbit undetected and instantly cripple the human races ability to project into space
>Could Humanity's military forces defeat a single Klingon Bird of Prey?
Does David Weber exist in this universe?
Cause if he does, you and every faction in the Star Trek AND Star Wars universe is properly fucked.