Contract for 20 KF-21 fighter jet signed

https://simpleflying.com/kf-21-fighter-kai-signs-1-billion-deal-start-production-south-korean-air-force-next-gen-jet/
>According to the Korea Times, Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) stated on Tuesday that it had signed a deal with the Korean Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) to build the first 20 KF-21 fighter jets. The deal also includes follow-up logistics support and training. The contract is valued at 1.96 trillion won or around $1.41 billion.

>Six prototypes have been built, and DAPA is staging various performance tests as it moves toward full-scale production. South Korea hopes to have 120 KF-21s in service by 2032 and offer them for export. The Korean Air Force is planning to put the KF-21 into service in 2026, replacing the now-retired F-4 Phantoms and other obsolete jets, like the Northrop F-5 Tiger II.

Does $1.41 for 20 aircrafts sound plausible?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is "aircraft." No plural for that word.
    $70 million each should include spares, maintenance training and such.
    Not sure if R&D costs are rolled into that price.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >$1.41 for 20 aircrafts sound plausible
    I wouldn't buy a Lambo offered to me for less than dollar fifty. But you wrote it like that on purpose, didn't you?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok chang

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lockheedification. It's like Stonerification but instead every plane evolves into a cross between an F-22 and F-35

    Also why is it so hard for everyone to make internal weapons bays??

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The issue for Korea isn't the IWB. The issue they have frick all for RAM because the US didn't want to do literally everything for Korea, so any benefits an IWB would be useless since the thing would light up like a Christmas tree on any halfway decent radar.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1,410 million for 20 KF-21
        70 million is similar to F-35 I guess
        even if it's more like the F-15SE than F-35 it's not too bad

        >Harrier in Hong Kong
        holy kino, where's this from?
        makes me want to break out WGRD and replay the Hong Kong campaign all over again

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It'll be F-15-esque when it's in the Block I and Block II configurations. But once Block III hits with the IWB, it'll be more similar to the F-22, though not as stealthy or equipped with as powerful engines.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ergo, it would be like the F-15 Silent Eagle

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, but I don't think the US will give South Korea RAM coatings, so SK needs to figure that out if they want something that is actually approaching the stealth the F-15SE would've been capable of.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I saved these pics after they were posted here forever ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh iwb
      Solved.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not really solved, that won't be hitting production until the early 2030s and they haven't even made an IWB yet, it's just in the pipeline for a future upgrade. They've reserved the internal space for it in the airframe so it should be a "simple" drop-in upgrade once they have the IWB physically ready and the software to pair with it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How fricking hard is it to make a bomb bay in 2024?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Since it needs to work at mach+ speeds with various thermal and atmospheric conditions, it needs to be tested vigorously, it also needs good software to open/close when needed properly.

            When it's going into a $70M+ airframe everything takes 10x longer, cost 50x more than you think it should, and it still is at risk of not working properly the first time you try it for real.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why design a low-observable combat aircraft in 2024 and not have IWB? the only reasonable explanation is that it's made by morons

          You would be ignorant to think that KAI enigneers hasn't prepared for the full stealth conversion.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then why aren't they doing it in the first two production blocks?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Costs.

              Yellow plane just like the yellow skin.

              Those are called primers, zoomer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Costs.
                >$70m/each
                >adding the IWB would cost too much
                lol

                lmao even

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you looked at how much F-16V costs theses days?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Have you looked at how much F-16V costs theses days?
                And the F-16V is a much more capable platform.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yellow plane just like the yellow skin.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why design a low-observable combat aircraft in 2024 and not have IWB? the only reasonable explanation is that it's made by morons

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lockmart engineers working for kai:
          >I must apologize for the kf-21, we have purposely designed it wrong, as a joke

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the point of getting lockheed to make the plane if you don't get stealth or internal bays? They probably cheaped out on how much they could pay lockheed.

      & they had the balls to call it "baby raptor"(boramae) god i hate south koreans

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, the US is giving them handouts, but still doesn't want to give EVERYTHING, which is why Korea didn't get an American radar, didn't get RAM coatings, and aren't being given the technology behind the engines so they're still buying those directly from GE until they can develop their own domestic engine, they claim they can do so within ~12 years.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the US is giving them handouts, but still doesn't want to give EVERYTHING
          of course
          letting them produce the FA-50 is throwing them a bone as is

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What's the point of getting lockheed to make the plane if you don't get stealth or internal bays?
        If this was a serious F-35 competitor program, the US government wouldn't even allowed it to join the development. Also, the LM advisors were formerly engineers that were involved in the F-22 development.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's a bunch of sensitive white timmies in a circle jerk and it's unfixable since jannies endorse it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >imagine not being white
      grim, chang, grim

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >losing 15 IQ pointe
        Miss me

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >losing 15cm body height and dick size

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'd take that trade any day if I could. Hell, I'd give half of my limbs.

            Back in my my teenage years I had 142 IQ measured in a mensa test.
            Fast forward a few decades and it's gone down to normalgay tier, hovering only a few points above 100 and I feel absolutely awful. There's this constant brainfog, no thought process is as clear as it used to be. Stuck in mental mudpit. I have measurably harder time processing information, recalling memories and learning. I no longer have constant hyperawareness, which has actually been a mixed blessing. It feels like I simply do not have the brain capacity any more to upkeep artificial subconscious processes I cultivated decades ago, they have become strange and fragmented. Only thoroughly unimportant low-level stuff like speech and fine motor skills are (almost) completely intact. I have no idea how normies can stand to live like this. I feel like a brain damaged moron. It's suffering and it will only get worse.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Back in my my teenage years I had 142 IQ measured in a mensa test.
              IQ is a test measured based on the distribution of the sample. You didn't score 142 against the general population, you scored 142 against a bunch of dysgenic teenagers of which most would probably fall into the clinically moronic category in a general test. You weren't some reincarnation of Albert Einstein who burnt out in later years and you fell for the "gifted child" meme, that's all. You were never special and you averaging out as an adult just proves that.
              >Fast forward a few decades
              >My mental state is deteriorating when I'm decades on from my teenage years. WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!
              YOU ARE OLD. You likely stopped doing shit that challenged your brain and kept the neurons firing. You might have some depression induced memory issues too. Go do a jigsaw puzzle or read some books. Pick up a new hobby and don't quit it when "it gets difficult" or literally anything to keep your brain engaged.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it's gone down to normalgay tier, hovering only a few points above 100
              it's likely that you took a test in which 130 was the mean average so you've always been slightly above average
              >There's this constant brainfog, no thought process is as clear as it used to be. Stuck in mental mudpit. I have measurably harder time processing information, recalling memories and learning. I no longer have constant hyperawareness
              You could be depressed, tired, unhealthy, having chronic lack of sleep, or any one of a bajillion physical reasons.

              I too can say without boasting that I am maybe the fourth most intelligent person of all the people I've ever known, at least in what we call IQ, which is mainly languages, mathematics, abstract thinking, and pattern recognition. But I picked up a major medical condition a few years back which, amongst other things, resulted in chronic lack of sleep. The medication for which caused other side effects impairing my thinking. (No, it's not a psychiatric problem.) So yeah, I felt the "brain fog" too. Problem solving, words, and logical thinking just didn't come to me as quickly as it did before. Like you, I thought, "well shit, I'm a normie now." Well, TLDR I got a handle on my condition about two years back, got some much-needed sleep and stopped needing to take that medication, and my facility for words and numbers and logic came back. So you might want to consider what physiological problems might be affecting you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, my score was the highest ever of my age group in my country. Small european country with not many mensagays to begin with, so not that big of a deal.
                I take good care of my physical and mental wellbeing and lead a very stress-free life, frankly much better than anyone whose daily routines know that intimately. I do have a few chronic physical health conditions, but they're not relevant. The neurodegradation is tangible and not just aging. I know what's coming for me. My family has a rather gloomy history of idiopathic neurodegenerative diseases, not just your common old age dementia.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The free world will prevail, turdchang

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        -ACK

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a shame they're still pouring money into this lemon. By the time it's even matured 6th gen aircraft will be entering service and SK will once again be left a generation behind.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >6th gen aircraft
      He fell for it lol.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >5th gen is the end of fighter development bro
        Nice meme

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And South Korea's enemies will still be stuck with Gen 4++++++ at best

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The KF21 is going to evolve into the US/NATO standard air superiority fighter in the coming years, it will be US/ROK 99% + 1% other close allies, screen cap and come back in a few years...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      okay

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