Concurrent major ops in the same place?

Apparently, offensive actions in the Red Sea are now POSEIDON ARCHER and defensive ones are PROSPERITY GUARDIAN. As of now, there's almost no information about POSEIDON ARCHER (see below). This seems unusual. Do you have any historical examples for how this works? When you're in the same place, using the same assets and the same people for both ops, how do you separate the activity of one from the activity of the other?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Summary of POSEIDON ARCHER's obscurity: The world seems to have learned about this three days ago, via CNN's daily liveblog [1–2] for the Israel-Gaza War.

    As of posting, top news hits all cite CNN – even the articles from state propaganda outlets like RT/Sputnik. Unlike GUARDIAN [3], there isn't even [4–5] an English Wikipedia article. Just a Simple English Wikipedia article [6] so far.

    Unlike GUARDIAN, I'm not seeing an official press release from either the US or UK. It seems like this CENTCOM update [7] was the first time that activities were described as "separate from" GUARDIAN.

    [1] http://archive.is/6AEto
    [2] http://archive.is/2ZG6e ctrl+f: "CNN reported"
    [3] http://enwp.org/Prosperity_Guardian exists
    [4] http://enwp.org/Operation_Poseidon_Archer -> redirects to
    [5] http://enwp.org/Red_Sea_crisis
    [6] http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Poseidon_Archer
    [7] http://www.centcom.mil/media/press-releases/press-release-view/article/3652569/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      More info:

      Overall totals [8] for GUARDIAN? GUARDIAN plus ARCHER? from the guy who has been putting out regular bean-counting updates on twitter.

      Example of journos and wonks being as in the dark [9] as everyone else:

      >Good roundup on the Yemen bombings, by @MalShelbourne and @SamLaGrone, including a CENTCOM statement and information on which ships etc. were involved. The campaign is now apparently named Poseidon Archer.

      [8] http://twitter.com/i/status/1750216290348790208
      [9] http://twitter.com/i/status/1749711320604098746

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The bean-counter also made some... fanart.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the diversity hire one
      lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The AI system that is used to make these randomly adds "ethnically ambiguous" and "black woman" to prompts to "fix bias".

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Turns out if you tell an AI to draw a picture of a woman, it will sometimes draw ones who aren't white.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick is with the cookies?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I have no idea. I momentarily considered trying to find out, til I realized this will be a rabbithole whence I might not return.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's that USN captain that posts pics of his crew eating cookies on the bridge on X.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I have no idea. I momentarily considered trying to find out, til I realized this will be a rabbithole whence I might not return.

        The captain hands out cookies and lets sailors say 'hi mom' over social media.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He also posts a lot of pictures of the ship's mascot.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      POSEIDON IS A MALE

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And what are you? A biologist?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that'll stop the coomers alright.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        how's the relevant for the gender of his archer?
        is Poseidon's wife also a male?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >operation POSEIDON ARCHER
      >art includes what looks like Athena, Poseidon's nemesis
      It's just some AI artwork some dude made and you're posting it as something official, aren't you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >blatant dalle sloppa
        >from a guy on twitter named @schizointel
        >"fanart"
        anon...

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why won't Usa us Yemen forces as allies and occupy Huthyny or whatever territories?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      555 is the new 666 when you think about it:
      - 7 already 8 9 (fool me twice...)
      - 8 is too chinese (and clearly more of a freelancer/opportunist (see above))
      - 6 is AFRAID of 7 (like a little b***h)
      - 4 is too even and unaesthetic (nerd emoji)
      - 3 is god's chosen son
      - 2 isn't even a crowd
      - 1 is just the LOUD!!1 problem child (r*dditor)
      - 0 is the Big Dog Himself, by which only He can divide

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I wish to know more

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3657097/deputy-pentagon-press-secretary-sabrina-singh-holds-a-press-briefing/
    > So Operation Prosperity Guardian is exactly that, it is looking at how this coalition together can help ensure freedom of navigation through the Red Sea, through the BEM, through the Gulf of Aden. And so that is something that the Secretary officially launched in December when he was in Bahrain visiting there, and it is — it was — it's a multinational security initiative.
    >
    >Operation — what you were referring to is — Operation Poseidon Archer is not a named department operation but it is something that CENTCOM has named in terms of multilateral strikes and dynamic strikes within Houthi-controlled areas in Yemen.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks. I don't get it though. What's the benefit of splitting things like this? If the objective isn't to give a formal label to the bits that some allies want no part in, to mollify members of op prosperity guardian, what is it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Administrative, most likely.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        kinda underscores the weirdness, to me, of having offensive and defensive measures in two differently labeled buckets. unless you absolutely plan to lose sooner or later, your definition of defensive actions can't be constrained to swatting threats from the sky. a return to sender reply to incoming in a situation like this is clearly a defensive act.

        It's basically just the name on the folder the plan is kept in

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    or we could use a different route and leave the sandbox for good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is the NWP more economical than the NSR for East Asian trade since it’s a straighter path?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      moronic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        thats what global warming is for

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why do you post this in every single one of these threads despite everytime you're proven wrong.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >poseidon
    >archer
    ???

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      neptune spear was taken :^)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Aquarius Dawn was also out but that is apparently for harmony and understanding and sympathy and trust abounding followed by mystic crystal revelation.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like this. I like this a lot. We should spread this idea more, it has a lot of potential:
    - A reason to beat russia into a pulp, so they dont get funky ideas once this route is in place.
    - 27% less travel time (and respective fuel savings)
    - We can ignore the middle east all together
    - Impoverishment of our arab friends

    Its a win win for everyone except for the guys that are currently chimping out. Even chinks have a win in this one, so why is this not a thing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wat

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Yemeni naval forces carried out a targeting operation on the British oil ship (MARLIN LUANDA) In the Gulf of Aden, using a number of appropriate naval missiles, the strike was direct, and resulted the burning of the vessel.
    strategic significance of causing an ecological disaster near yemen?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >trafigura
      ohhh nooo, it couldn't have happened to such an undeserving wholesome chonker commodities cartel :~~*

      replacing the Safer with a new ecological disaster is very trad of them too
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSO_Safer
      https://reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-completes-removal-oil-decaying-tanker-off-yemen-2023-08-11

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kinda underscores the weirdness, to me, of having offensive and defensive measures in two differently labeled buckets. unless you absolutely plan to lose sooner or later, your definition of defensive actions can't be constrained to swatting threats from the sky. a return to sender reply to incoming in a situation like this is clearly a defensive act.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it gets funnier

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Friendly reminder that if you're targeting an international trading vessel, you're going to piss off at least three nations.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Yemeni naval forces carried out a targeting operation on the British oil ship

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why would Yemen bomb a ship carrying Russian oil? Are they on Ukraine's side?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >British oil ship
      >The oil tanker is flagged with the Marshall Islands.
      More American than British.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh and before anybody replies, the owner is a Singaporean company. I dunno where the British bit has come in outside of
        >Haha we hit your ship after we hit us, we're winning!
        PR crap.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Houthis achieved their operation objective, which was to yell "Allahu Akbar" really loud.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hypothetically, would it be possible to blow the Iranian Behshad spy ship up with an Mark 48 torpedo, and the US Navy pretends that the ship just did that spontaneously?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The longer I think back on failed US ops in yemen, the more I wonder whether iranian forward observers were a factor. Multiple major frickups in kill/capture and rescue missions stemmed from the ground units getting made pretty far from the objective.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Naval operations can get fricked up majorly by operations getting leaked to the press.
    Just look at the near-disasters during the Falklands War.
    So, don't tell the press

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