Concealed carry recommendations

I’ve been shooting since I was 11 but never really had the money to own a gun until recently.

Getting my concealed permit soon, what are some pistols you’d recommend for concealed carry? I really like Barettas but I’ve also heard Glocks are the way to go

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically doesn't matter. Best thing you can do is go to your local gun shop and ask to hold and feel up different guns. Test out the trigger pull if they let you. Do your research on calibers, ask questions. Whatever you choose, practice is multitudes more important. There isn't really a golden answer. Hope the advice helped.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I guess what I’m more asking about is size of a handgun?
      I’ve only ever shot bigger pistols that are more for home defense, I’ve never dealt with something that you’d have to carry comfortably on a daily basis

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        imo if you already have normal sized handguns and want to get into CC. Just get a pocket sized gun (M&P bodyguard, LCP, j-frame).
        They're small enough to conceal in just about everything you wear and they're not nearly as hard to shoot at 10 yards and in as some people make them out to be. DA triggers might require some getting used to, but you can do that with dry fire.

        It's cliche, but the .380 on you beats the double stack 9mm at home. At least for a first CC gun, don't fall for the meme of
        >if you don't have a red dot, 10+ round mag and can't do a dicken's drill with your carry piece, you're gonna die.

        Also get pepper spray as well. Statistically you're 3 times more likely to be the victim of simple assault as opposed to aggravated assault (assault with a deadly weapon). Pepper spray can be used in tons of situations your more likely to be in that a gun can't. IMO if you're going to carry a gun, you should 100% have pepper spray as well.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I do own a micro 9 as well and even though I can conceal it most of the time without dressing differently, the .380 can always be concealed IWB or pocket. Even when I could carry the shield I often just take the .380 since it’s lighter and more comfortable. At this point the shield is relegated to desk gun and I only carry it in unusual circumstances, like when my buddy who lives in a large city called me at 4am needing help with car trouble.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Also
            >don’t talk to me or my son ever again

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/bNeApFJ.jpg

          I do own a micro 9 as well and even though I can conceal it most of the time without dressing differently, the .380 can always be concealed IWB or pocket. Even when I could carry the shield I often just take the .380 since it’s lighter and more comfortable. At this point the shield is relegated to desk gun and I only carry it in unusual circumstances, like when my buddy who lives in a large city called me at 4am needing help with car trouble.

          thirding this, the most important thing by far is actually having a gun in the first place should you need one. Get a pocket .380 and a compact sized doublestack(or stagger stack if you really cant handle the girth). I always end up carrying one of those two choices and ive tried the super compact 9mm meme.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's a journey my friend. I've been through dozens of guns and I dont even follow hype trains or buy anything that isn't older. I'll say this, you can conceal a full sized pistol more easily than you think with a proper AIWB setup. Didn't give up on AIWB if it doesn't work at first, you'll have to play around with holster/belt combo before you really know what works. I wish there was some holster rental company though because this stuff gets ridiculously expensive real fast. I think JM custom, tennicor,trex,tier 1and phlster have the best holsters with a lot of thought out into the design. As for belts, the tennicor zero and the hunter Constantine belt is the future. Forget about those Uber stiff ratchet belts unless you carry OWB. The enigma system seems great too but more involved.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    depends on how you dress and how you think youd carry. Also how much money you have to spend

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP, but would appreciate recommendations for tucked in shirts in offices wear you really don't want to print.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        NTA, but the type of holster, carry position and your body type have a whole lot to do with it. If I was dressed up, working in an office, then I would probably be more interested in a mouse gun than a micro 9mm. The keltec p32 is a solid choice. The NAA 22 mag revolvers are also. Look at holsters and see what you think. You're going to want a tuckable holster if you go IWB.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ankle carry, especially if you have a long commute. I EDC a P365 with magguts springs, so 12+1, with extreme comfort.

        t. Attorney whose office is in the hood 45 minutes from the suburb where I actually live.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >suddenly emergency
          >fast movement
          >kicks gun across parking lot
          >many such cases

          Also, if you get ambushed with a knife or suddenly jumped or something, what are you going to pretend to tie your shoe to get your gun or something? Ankle carry is barely better than purse carry.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You have clearly never tried it if you think that guns just fly out of their ankle holsters on account of sudden furtive movement. The main advantage for ankle carry in my situation is that I can easily draw from a seated person, particularly while driving. I live in a nice neighborhood and work in a building that has tons of armed security, but to get between the two I have to traverse Mogadishu on the Mississippi.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >You have clearly never tried
              Definitely not, seen too many examples of people running and their gun flying out of the holster. It's not the furtive movement it's the running to cover, running after a purse snatcher or any activity that causes your legs to move quickly about especially while also impacting the ground.
              >I can easily draw from a seated person
              Not as easily as from the waist.
              >I live in a nice neighborhood and work in a building that has tons of armed security, but to get between the two I have to traverse Mogadishu on the Mississippi.
              Fair enough. If you're favoring deep concealment while only focusing on access during your commute, that's fair. That's a good justification, just know that running has caused people's guns to go flying across the ground.

              >p226 not for carry
              Explain
              >inb4 there are better options

              Mostly, it's too thick but the handle is also rather long.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The current kings of EDC are the SIG p365xl, Springfield Hellcat, Glock 43x/48 or the new FN Reflex. I've owned varieties of the first three but only dry fired the FN. It's trigger is really good.
    I have settled in on the Glock 43x, pic related for myself. The threaded barrel gives the same barrel length as the 48 while keeping the muzzle thinner, and allowing suppressor use. The stupid things about it are single stack magazines and bad mounting choice. I'm happy with how the EPScarry is mounted but I had to grind off 2 posts with a dremel.
    Sometimes I carry the model 60 and sometimes a Glock 42.

    I ditched the SIGs for being SIGs and the Hellcat XL Pro I had had a really shitty recoil impulse. Generally, I'd say shoot what you shoot best, so long as it's reliable. Contrariwise, buy whatever captures your imagination. Enjoy life. If you like Beretta because of the age and pedigree, get that. Whatever. The most important philosophy of owning a gun is remembering to love your fellow man and not confusing it with ego.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I shot the FN the other day when I was showing a buddy guns for him to pick a first gun that he would eventually carry. absolutely awful to shoot. Worse than the 365xl. I don't know how anyone can even consider that gun compared to the g48 and the 365xl or even against the 365.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are you able to articulate that viewpoint in a more meaningful way?

        I don't like the Springfield Hellcat XL Pro or whatever it is because the recoil impulse was very hard, almost like a magnum revolver. I'm not even sure how they accomplished that when the p365xl and Glock 48 are so soft shooting in comparison. I don't like the Glock 43 because I can't keep a good hold on that tiny grip and I don't love SIG just because it's SIG.
        Why do you think the FN reflex is absolutely awful?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          basically the same as you said, the recoil impulse is extremely fast and harsh, it is night and day more pleasant to shoot a 365. which is crazy because the 365 is smaller.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I went with the g48 because it is far more aesthetically balanced and the extra muzzle length is a benefit for recoil impulse and AIWB comfort for my body type. The MOS is whack though so I just got the regular version and I'll send it in for a full sized rmr some day. I'm not sure if the other small 9mms in this class can fit a full size rmr but the g43x family can. Ill probably just put a 507comp on it.
      Your setup with the suppressor is cool, ever think of a comp?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Contrariwise,

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >in contrast to something that has just been stated or mentioned.
        I'm not seeing your issue with the use.

        the claim is that it wasn't properly seated in the holster. I'm sure you're aware of that video of the guy at the gun store who puts a gock in an IWB then bends down to pick up his bag, and the glock goes off.

        Same deal.

        [...]
        Yeah. I've already bought one. I'm the guy who posted [...] - I had a G43 but my hands are too big. Still have a G34, it's my home defense gun - I actually do like glocks.

        The P365 is my first sig and so far I'm liking it. I'll be keeping an eye out for rust though, especially through the summer months. I'm not a sig fanboy either. I wouldn't carry a P320 despite what I said above.

        >The P365 is my first sig
        The p365 today is fantastic. It did have some growing pains. I said it earlier but SIG has a lot of issues across their product lines, yes including p320s going off on their own. Remington 700s also used to go off on their own sometimes despite there having been a gazillion of them made. The early issue with the p365 was dragging strikers which SIG claims was never a problem despite the fact they redesigned it. There are also recent reports with their MCX rifles. The p365 is good though, as is the p226 if you get the right variant and keep it greased. The p226 is just rather thick and large to EDC.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          a p226 is definitely a bucket list gun for me.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on your body shape and how you wanna dress, OP. Larger gun is easier to shoot in the unlikely event you have to actually use it, but will print more easily, on top of weighing more and being a bit more pokey when you actually bend. Generally, it's the grip that's hardest to conceal, but good holsters can help keep them flush up against your body provided you're not too out of shape. If you're comfortable and able to carry appendix, a lot of guys seem to find that more comfortable thqn the more typical 3-4 o'clock position.

    Hot shit atm are the 9mm subcompacts. Shield, P320, Hellcat, G43, etc. I prefer compacts myself, like something G19 size, and carry a VP9SK atm. If you can, get some trigger time on a few handguns before you buy anything. That said, nothing I mentioned would be a bad choice if you did blind buy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meant to say P365, not P320, derp. I don't care for the P320 at all.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You ever derp so hard ya herp, la derpina?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sig p365, Springfield Hellcat or Ruger Max-9
    P365 XL, Hellcat Pro or M&P Shield Plus if you can dress for something slightly larger.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Beretta APX A1 Carry. You say you like Berettas and you can't go wrong with a single stack 9mm. They're like $200 right now. I got one for $169 after the rebate.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I got one for $169 after the rebate
      Damn. At that price I'm tempted to buy a couple just to leave in random places - inside a hollowed out book at my mom's house, behind a ceiling tile at work, dumped outside the nearest Section 8 housing alongside a bottle of 4 loko.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >2024
      >single stack instead of 1.5 stack
      Tell your shitty ass company to get with the times you shill

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Whatever, anon. Single stack has plenty of advantages. I will happily take the single stack width, size and weight over the one & one-half to double stack offerings to carry every single day, all day long. I'd rather keep the load thin and spread the load out than carry all of it in one spot. A couple magazines, IWB, on the left hip is a perfectly acceptable compromise. All that said, there's no reason to limit yourself to one gun anyway, anon. You might as well buy multiple so as to suit your ever-changing needs.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kel-Tec P32

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unless you’re very skinny or have an odd body type, I don’t think the micro compacts matter. The Glock 19 sized platform seems to be ideal. I don’t have the most experience though.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends entirely on how you dress.

    >I wear jeans and a flannel over shirt no matter how hot it gets

    Pretty much any handgun and holster combination will work. Shoulder holsters are my personal favorite. Super comfy and convenient.

    >I wear Tshirt and shorts

    Go with a single stack 9mm. You are going to have to get an inside-the-waistband holster, and full size guns are very uncomfortable for that. Hope you aren't fat. Glocks and Shields are always good. I have a Glock 43 with the extended grip magazine. 7 shots. Always goes boom. Thin profile so it doesn't get caught on anything. Your choice really. There's lots of good ones.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just go lightweight. The more comfortable you are the more likely you will carry.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You are going to have to get an inside-the-waistband holster,

      I've been looking a these for a while, but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
      Anyone have actual, real experience with it?

      https://urbancarryholsters.com/order-custom-build-g3.html

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen enough of their spam marketing to hate everything about them. Go to amazon, get the simplest kydex holster for your gun. It's not only a cheaper option, it's almost always the best option. Most of us that have been carrying for a long while have a drawer or box full of holsters and have tried many. Most are just annoying. Some don't sit at the right height. Some don't stay seated. Some don't have the right angle. Some don't seem secure. Some print. Some add unecessary thickness. Some cost $200. Some cant' be reholstered. Some can't cause your pants to slide down. Some are hard to take on and off.

        Dude, just get go to Amazon and get

        https://i.imgur.com/o1cHKA1.jpg

        I like a single clip simple $25 kydex holster. You can put it on with one hand and take it off with one hand. Easy on, easy off, they work and they're comfy. You can even get them on amazon. If you want to over-complicate your holster go for it.

        [...]
        P15?

        >IWB
        >Kydex
        >single clip
        >no bullshit

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Best advice I was given for concealed carry is that you need a gun that you not only can but are willing to carry everywhere. I have glock that I sometimes carry on my hip but 90% of the time I drop my .38 in my pocket and go about my day. No one ever knows and it’s never been uncomfortable. A mouse gun in your pocket is far better than a duty pistol you left at home.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the correct take, I've carried my Model 36 a lot more than my Arex Delta or 1911.

      That being said, anyone ever carried a P99AS? I'm eyeing a new compact 9mm to add to my carry rotation and so far I can't pick between (from cheapest to most expensive):
      CZ P07
      P99AS
      CZ P01 Omega

      I carry my Arex Delta comfortably so a gun in G19 size but thinner is nice for me, the Hellcat looks and feels great too so its an option but my LGS has only those.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you want to be a snowflake and never find a holster, you could try getting a Mossberg MC2sc

        Otherwise
        >thinness increases comfort
        >shortness of grip determines how easy it is to conceal
        >length of barrel can help keep it in place but might affect draw/clear speed.
        Claw is a must on the holster.
        Wedge is optional but helps.
        Weight of the gun is mainly an issue if there is a bunch of blubber between (You) and the gun. Or you're some sort of weird ounce-conscience fanny pack day hikers.

        >P01 Omega
        That was discontinued for a reason so you either need to be getting a hefty discount on old new-stock, or you get a normal P01 or PCR
        The manual safety on it is ass too. P07 is the same clockwork but it doesn't have nearly as many issues.
        P99as looks like any other striker, except it's also being discontinued.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty bad takes all around. I like Mossberg, the company, but that pistol is shit. Claws and wedges are in no way necessary and weight matters if most you're physically after. Basically most of what you said is stupid.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How do you like your P15?

            https://i.imgur.com/cCNVqP4.jpg

            I actually thought the P01 Omega was still in production, yeah I much rather get a dewienerer only non-Omega but I guess my LGS just have Omega models for some reason, what problems did they had? I was under the impression the P01 was actually the most reliable of all 3.

            The one store that has the P99AS actually lets you shoot second hand guns a bit and if you buy them you dont pay for a couple rounds so I'll try it first, I did handled a SAO P99 once and disliked it but it was one of the weird single action only models which the dewienerer just render it uselss and the grip was smooth plastic, I could get those Talon grips if I like the 99AS.
            The P07 never shot it but I liked shooting a friend's P09, but the slide looks a bit too thick for CCing? Idk, its the cheapest one of all 3 for some reason so I thought about it a lot too, its not a bad gun and I save money for holster, extra mags and ammo.

            DA pull stacks hard and seemingly randomly, but apparently isn't an issue in the P07/P09, though CGW has a polishing guide to help alleviate it a bit. Random defect lottery with the dewiener pin and one other component that's not common to most CZs but I forget. I think those should've been fixed by now but anons randomly got them. Normal P01 clockwork should be fine, aside from the common CZ issues. The only reason to get an Omega variant is because you can switch the safety but not only is the manual safety kinda awful (plastic detent with a tiny spring you will lose) but you're only going to do it once~twice to try it out then leave it.

            P07 is cheap due to plastic frame. I haven't seen one taken apart, so I don't know if the extra thickness is from rail inserts like Tanfoglio plastic pistols, and they opted to mold the plastic flat instead of around the inserts.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            nta, wedges certainly aren't necessary, but they're still awesome and cheap. Makes the gun way more comfortable and helps a lot with kneeling, which for me was the biggest cause of printing.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I like a single clip simple $25 kydex holster. You can put it on with one hand and take it off with one hand. Easy on, easy off, they work and they're comfy. You can even get them on amazon. If you want to over-complicate your holster go for it.

              How do you like your P15?

              [...]
              DA pull stacks hard and seemingly randomly, but apparently isn't an issue in the P07/P09, though CGW has a polishing guide to help alleviate it a bit. Random defect lottery with the dewiener pin and one other component that's not common to most CZs but I forget. I think those should've been fixed by now but anons randomly got them. Normal P01 clockwork should be fine, aside from the common CZ issues. The only reason to get an Omega variant is because you can switch the safety but not only is the manual safety kinda awful (plastic detent with a tiny spring you will lose) but you're only going to do it once~twice to try it out then leave it.

              P07 is cheap due to plastic frame. I haven't seen one taken apart, so I don't know if the extra thickness is from rail inserts like Tanfoglio plastic pistols, and they opted to mold the plastic flat instead of around the inserts.

              P15?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >If you want to over-complicate your holster go for it.
                fair, you do have to be pretty high IQ to deal with having a piece of foam on your holster

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I actually thought the P01 Omega was still in production, yeah I much rather get a dewienerer only non-Omega but I guess my LGS just have Omega models for some reason, what problems did they had? I was under the impression the P01 was actually the most reliable of all 3.

          The one store that has the P99AS actually lets you shoot second hand guns a bit and if you buy them you dont pay for a couple rounds so I'll try it first, I did handled a SAO P99 once and disliked it but it was one of the weird single action only models which the dewienerer just render it uselss and the grip was smooth plastic, I could get those Talon grips if I like the 99AS.
          The P07 never shot it but I liked shooting a friend's P09, but the slide looks a bit too thick for CCing? Idk, its the cheapest one of all 3 for some reason so I thought about it a lot too, its not a bad gun and I save money for holster, extra mags and ammo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna agree. Throw the Glock 19 on now and then but 95% it’s an S&W 442 in my pocket. So much easier, no excuse to not carry. Not to mention there is zero chance of someone figuring out you have a gun on you, if that is important to you.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Keltec P32.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All the people saying it depends on your build and how you dress, that's not entirely true.
    It certainly matters what attire you will wear in terms of whether or not the gun will sit securely on/in your belt and whether or not it will imprint. So yes those things matter a lot. However, the biggest issues for carry comfort are in this order:
    1. Thickness
    2. Weight
    3. Handle length
    A thick gun will feel huge in your waistband if you carry IWB and will hang off you like a small child if you carry outside the waist. If you are being at all physically active, jogging for example, the weight will be pulling your clothing around and for backpacking, total carried weight is always a concern. Back to anon's point about clothing, you can't really carry a heavy gun in running shorts but I'm putting that on physical activity more than clothing. Handle length won't just cause imprinting it'll stick out the back when you sit down. I've ruined car seats by having the handle of a Glock 19 digging into them when I sat down to drive.
    To maximize comfort you want a thin, light gun with a handle just long enough to easily control the gun. A micro 380 maximizes these at a drastic expense to firepower. In comes these new small 9mm which all give you about 10 to 13 rounds of 9mm, are extremely shootable and do their best to minimize thickness, weight and handle length. For a newer shooter, I would say you definitely want all 3 fingers on the grip. That is the measure; is the grip as short as possible while allowing you got comfortable get your pinky on it.
    The first of these 9mm that I am aware of was the Walther PPS which is still available and still a great shooter. It's single stack and was the only option in this field for years. Then SIG came out with their p365 then the p365xl and eventually the p365 macro which is something to consider if you want a fullsize like gun to conceal carry. Springfield came out with variations of the Hellcat and Glock the 43 etc.. cont.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      cont...

      I cannot personally maintain a grip on the Glock 43 since it is a 2 finger grip, tiny grip, on a tiny 9mm but the 43x totally changed all that by lengthening the grip just enough for all 3 fingers. Similarly, would suggest you avoid the Glock 26 unless you're going to put a pinky extender on the magazine plate. I can shoot the 2 finger 26 fine these days but as a newer shooter could not. There are a number of thicker compact guns out there like the Glock 26 or the VP9SK pictured here

      https://i.imgur.com/eplaiMU.jpg

      Depends on your body shape and how you wanna dress, OP. Larger gun is easier to shoot in the unlikely event you have to actually use it, but will print more easily, on top of weighing more and being a bit more pokey when you actually bend. Generally, it's the grip that's hardest to conceal, but good holsters can help keep them flush up against your body provided you're not too out of shape. If you're comfortable and able to carry appendix, a lot of guys seem to find that more comfortable thqn the more typical 3-4 o'clock position.

      Hot shit atm are the 9mm subcompacts. Shield, P320, Hellcat, G43, etc. I prefer compacts myself, like something G19 size, and carry a VP9SK atm. If you can, get some trigger time on a few handguns before you buy anything. That said, nothing I mentioned would be a bad choice if you did blind buy.

      but they're as thick as their fullsize counterparts.
      Finally one last gun to talk about is the Walther CCP. The main complaint is they get hot after a lot of shooting and that they're a real b***h to take down and clean. I haven't owned one because I'm left handed but they're super cool. They use a gas delay like the very desirable from 30 years ago, the Hk p7. As a result they're extremely soft shooting and unique. Unfortunately they don't come with an ambi-safet and so I'll never own one. I have owned most of the below:

      Here is a list of guns for you to go look at:
      Glock 43x
      Glock 48 (43x but with longer slide/barrel)
      SIG p365xl
      SIG p365Macro (true fullsize ammo capacity)
      Springfield Hellcat XL Pro
      Walther PPS
      Walther CCP
      FN Reflex

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The 43 is definitely garbage compared to the g43x/g48 but I wouldn't recommend this category of gun as a first. They are still pretty snappy compared to a g19 size gun which can cause a new shooter to develop a flinch. This category of gun is better for those with a decent amount of rounds through a proper double stack 9mm.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Buy one of the micro compacts other anons have mentioned and get one of these as a backup / gym shorts gun. Also get a snub nose because they are cool.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    G26 vs G43 ? Suit everyday outside home. I own a G45 as for now, but find it little bit heavy. Also thinking about shoulder carry instead of alongside wiener carry..

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      P365

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I get Sigs are considered good and all but come on... Sigs, really ?

        Both are obsolescent. If you are going glock get a 43x.

        Isn't the grip too long not to print ? To be precise, I do have gorilla hands (that is why I picked G45 over G19).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Isn't the grip too long not to print
          That depends on you more than the gun. It's about half an inch shorter than the G45. Also fwiw I know sigs are sigs BUT if you were ever going to buy one it should be a p365XL because they really did a great job on those.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The P365 has the same dimensions as a G43 with four more rounds in a flush fitting magazine. Also comes with night sights and/or optic cut if that’s more your speed. Also pretty comfy to shoot with the twelve round mag which gives you double the capacity of the G43 while being less than .5” taller. I’d say it has around the same amount of aftermarket/accessories as well.

            It’s a sig, they will fail to function when you need it most. Proudly assembled by Indians with made in India parts.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The P365 has the same dimensions as a G43 with four more rounds in a flush fitting magazine. Also comes with night sights and/or optic cut if that’s more your speed. Also pretty comfy to shoot with the twelve round mag which gives you double the capacity of the G43 while being less than .5” taller. I’d say it has around the same amount of aftermarket/accessories as well.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's Sig though. Get a Shield if you don't want the 43x. Spring for the performance center versions for all the extras you'd get for the pistol anyway

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              [...]
              It’s a sig, they will fail to function when you need it most. Proudly assembled by Indians with made in India parts.

              I’d take a P365 over a shit and wesson any day of the week. I don’t get why some people shit on their one actual good gun.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I don’t get why some people shit on their one actual good gun.
                Noguns repeating memes they heard on /k/ is my suspicion. If there were problems with the p365 we'd have heard about it by now, God only knows how many them have been sold.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Echoing what other anons have said, my p365 has been running flawlessly for >3 years with every type of ammo. I think almost all of the Sig hate is unjustified and from non-sig owners, imho.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                SIG makes really nice shooting guns. There's no denying that but the p320's absolutely do go off on their own. SIG absolutely does cut corners where they can, using cheaper parts made in India or PVD coatings that aren't great and they have been more prone to rust. SIG also beta tests on the public. The p365 (non-XL) had problems with dragging the strikers from early unlocking that caused some of them to snap off. SIG to this day has refused to acknowledge the issue ever existed but did redesign the striker. They said the redesigned just so people would shut up about the probem even though the problem never existed. I believe Germany recently bought a bunch of SIGs too and had issues with them from the metal being too soft. There's plenty to hate on SIG about though I'll acknowledge that today the p365xl is an excellent EDC gun.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Sigs, really ?
          I have a lot of trust in Glock as a carry piece (provided you have a good holster) but I'll tell you what won me over to the P365:

          (1) I fired it, and the trigger was better. Also, I could get a manual safety, which I know people have strong feelings about, but I like it.

          (2) I could buy the XL (top left) then later buy a macro grip (top right). The macro is just slightly too big to carry most of the year, but in winter, when I'm wearing a coat anyway, it's fine. I get a slightly bigger gun, with a light, for not much money (I just can't have both at the same time)

          (3) The wilson combat grip (bottom left) is also really nice. It has tungsten weights which make the balance feel better. And the stippling is great. I need a better holster though because it scratches me to carry it.

          tl;dr the modularity of the sigs gives you a lot of interesting options.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but it's still a sig. You're definitely right, the modularity is awesome, but I just hate sig for all their botched gun releases. I'll never trust a company that releases a gun that isn't drop safe in the 21st century.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I'll never trust a company that releases a gun that isn't drop safe in the 21st century.
              There's no actual proof that the P320 isn't drop safe. The alternative hypothesis is that cops are doing stupid things ...and getting away with it when they have a glock because of the heavier trigger pull.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I hope I'm falling for b8

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're confusing two different events but I wouldn't ever want to carry a loaded p320 after all those stories. The p365 is more trustworthy but it's still shite.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The p365 is more trustworthy but it's still shite.
                I don't want to carry something that's "shite" so if you could provide more info I'd appreciate it.

                I need sources too

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He probably means personal preference. It’s a reliable gun just like all the other microcompact nines out there. Just go to a range, rent a few, and see what feels best for you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There's literal video of a cop wearing a duty holster, not touching the gun, when it just goes off in his holster.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the claim is that it wasn't properly seated in the holster. I'm sure you're aware of that video of the guy at the gun store who puts a gock in an IWB then bends down to pick up his bag, and the glock goes off.

                Same deal.

                He probably means personal preference. It’s a reliable gun just like all the other microcompact nines out there. Just go to a range, rent a few, and see what feels best for you.

                Yeah. I've already bought one. I'm the guy who posted

                https://i.imgur.com/xuiSe3w.jpg

                >Sigs, really ?
                I have a lot of trust in Glock as a carry piece (provided you have a good holster) but I'll tell you what won me over to the P365:

                (1) I fired it, and the trigger was better. Also, I could get a manual safety, which I know people have strong feelings about, but I like it.

                (2) I could buy the XL (top left) then later buy a macro grip (top right). The macro is just slightly too big to carry most of the year, but in winter, when I'm wearing a coat anyway, it's fine. I get a slightly bigger gun, with a light, for not much money (I just can't have both at the same time)

                (3) The wilson combat grip (bottom left) is also really nice. It has tungsten weights which make the balance feel better. And the stippling is great. I need a better holster though because it scratches me to carry it.

                tl;dr the modularity of the sigs gives you a lot of interesting options.

                - I had a G43 but my hands are too big. Still have a G34, it's my home defense gun - I actually do like glocks.

                The P365 is my first sig and so far I'm liking it. I'll be keeping an eye out for rust though, especially through the summer months. I'm not a sig fanboy either. I wouldn't carry a P320 despite what I said above.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          With a proper holster setup( maybe an enigma can work for you)I could hide a g48 better than a g26. We're talking suited up, tucked in shirt I assume. The g26 looks like I have a growth on my abdomen where the g48 disappears. That is also because I have a 30" waist. A bigger guy might do better with the g26.

          As long as I'm using a wing claw thing, the g48 grip can be tucked against the body quite well. Blousing the shirt helps too. I've got xl mits, slender but long fingered and the g48 grip is my bare minimum comfort level with a 9mm and to be honest it feels kinda shite compared to a g19. The j frame I recommended to your first post has a huge advantage of having swappable grips. The ultimate carry has some slightly oversized grips that are still very concealable but I'm not sure if vz is offering them separately yet.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I get Sigs are considered good and all but come on... Sigs, really ?
          Dude, don’t be that moron that doesn’t know dick, but has a opinion based on others fervor. Sig is fine, its just overpriced imo (especially when it comes to the p320).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            SIG is not fine. Current p365 variants are fine. Some p226 are good, thought not for EDC. Most of the rest of their lineup still has issues and quality control problems. SIG is a shit company that makes a couple of good models.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >p226 not for carry
              Explain
              >inb4 there are better options

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Its big and heavy for a gun that only holds 15 rounds. Similar sized guns these days hold 17-19.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              fair enough

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Both are obsolescent. If you are going glock get a 43x.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you have a 34 or larger size waist you might be able to make a g26 work. It'll be a way better gun than the 43 in every single way aside from width.
      The g43 really sucks to shoot. I'd look at a g43x/g48 minimum for 9mm and if you can't swing that look at the j frame ultimate carry in .32h&r or .38.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm batting for the LCP as my deep cover poverty pony of choice. I've got a red laser and it fits into any pocket with minimal printing.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A SHIELD PLUS
    GET A SHIELD PLUS
    HOW DO PEOPLE NEVER RECOMMEND THE SHIELD PLUS IN THESE THREADS?
    IT'S ALL P365, HELLCAT, J-FRAME

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's the biggest/heaviest in its class and has a G19 level grip height, the other two are meaningfully smaller which is the point of the whole thing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think the name just sucks. It's definitely up there but something about tracking on plus just sounds stupid. I know pro or XL isn't much better but it's something. The botched safety thing isn't a great look either. Give us a useable safety, not some tiny, useless little notch.
      Also probably because it's just a more capacious version of the original shield whereas the pro and XL are visibly different models than their forerunners.
      Just my best guess. Now that you've mentioned it I do find it surprising how seldom it gets recommended.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've never had an issue with the safety on the shield. Just press your thumb against the gun and swipe down, it works every time. For a CC gun, it's perfectly fine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's because you're not practicing your dry fire/draw enough. I had a p938, which has a way more useable safety than a shield, and every once in awhile I would miss the safety because it was so small. I was practicing drawing while moving, one handed, etc. Sure, the safety works perfectly well in a no stress situation, but you start moving around and picking up speed and it's a different story, let alone adding an adrenaline dump to the situation.
          The safety was originally released on the first batch of shields as a compromise between those who didn't want a safety and those who did. It was easy to leave off and ignore, which was a huge talking point at the time. A proper safety is not something you could just ignore. It's a half assed abomination from Smith and the fact that they didn't address it for the plus release is indicative of the lazy engineering at Smith.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I did a 250 round class with it last year that had lots of drawing and moving and never had an issue.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you forgot your unironic boomer signature, Capsgay.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Out of all my firearms, the three I actually end up carrying the most are my Keltek PF9, Ruger SP101, and Bond Arms .410 derringer. The PF9 is very light and thin, cheap, and corrosion resistant, but functions very relyably. It is my warm weather carry, and I wear it in an iwb holster and can hide it under a tee shirt. I would say any slim single stack 9mm subcompact is a good first choice for concealed carry.
    The SP101 I carry during the winter in a bulky custom shoulder holster that I made specifically to larp as a space pirate or whatever. It is very heavy and can only be concealed weapons under a coat or thick vest, but my job puts me in proximity of sketchy wildlife so I feel like it's worthwhile.
    The Bond Arms .410 is the only gun I feel comfortable about pocket carrying because of the single action and manual safety. Only two shots, but with 000 buck it is one of the better options in situations where I can't reasonably carry a larger weapon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >that pic
      >t.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1911 style handguns are unironically great for conceal carry. I don't mind the weight since it's slim which I personally find more impactful on comfort compared with rather chunky polymer handguns.
    It's also nice for actually shooting with compared with other options.

  19. 1 month ago
    Swissanon

    Depends body shape, clothes, enigma or not enigma, what type of holster, etc etc etc.

    I like my HS H11 personally.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's extremely subjective. Start out with a larger, double stack "compact" like a g19 or px4. These types of guns shoot really well and are pretty easy to conceal with a good belt and holster, emphasis on those pieces of kit. A $50 or lower holster is typically not very good. Stretch belt for the max comfy levels.
    Next you need a mouse gun. Something small enough to carry innapocket, something that you can carry no matter the attire. For me I prefer a 22lr j frame. Some like an LCP/p32. Better off with a DAO for this role, light as possible. Didn't chase performance or capacity, this is a niche gun for limited but important circumstances. J frame/LCR is the best bet.
    Once you have those bases covered then you can look at a p365xl/g48/HC PRO. Skip the versions with a small grip. This category of guns is noticably more difficult to shoot than a true compact gun but they carry noticably easier. Some find the juice not worth the squeeze and go back to a g19, some stick with it.
    After about 13yrs of carry, with everything from a NAA .22 to a full size 1911, I've settled on this setup, 6ftish, 150 lbs...
    >G17 for when concealment isn't a huge issue although it conceals amazingly well on my frame with a claw holster AIWB
    >G48 for ease of carry and tucked in shirt
    >J frame in .32 h&r, lightweight and very comfy, dontvhave it yet but it'll be my main squeeze
    >J frame in 22lr, minimalist carry/trainer, clipdraw/hamre grips for no holster carry, sometimes innapocket.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The best advice anyone can give you is go to a gun range and rent a wide variety of guns and see which ones you like. Which you can shoot well, which feels decent in your hand, which you feel you could carry every day without it being a pain in the ass. Once you've made a list of the ones you liked, then consult us on which would be a good choice. After owning a variety of handguns for a decade, I've come to the conclusion that I like revolvers, and I usually pocket carry a S&W j frame. Sometimes I appendix carry a k frame. Sometimes I carry a Jericho at 4 o'clock or in a shoulder holster if I feel like I want some extra firepower.

    Point is, find a gun you like shooting and carry that. That way, you'll be more likely to get good with it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Glad this works for you. I have to train on one pistol or im mediocre with all of them.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A pistol can save, take or ruin your life without ever being fired. Think about it. Have fun.
    >Walther PPS M2
    It has a protrusion on the rear of the slide that you can put your thumb over when reholstering. The XD and a number of other striker fired pistols have it as well. The PPS is also very controllable if you have large hands.

    https://gun.deals/catalog/109986/walther-pps-m2

    Ive already applied the appropriate filters.

    https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger?ca=brass&sh=average&co=new

    https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger/Speer-handgun-124grains?ikw=Gold%20Dot%20%2BP

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just picked up a beretta 92x compact. Love the gun, it's the best. But AIWB prints a lot more than my glock 43. I'm getting a shoulder holster because I usually wear a blazer anyway, but if you're hesitant about printing (I am in a zero gun tolerance workplace so must be extra careful) then consider a subcompact.
    imo glocks feel like toys. But honestly basically everything is going to fit the bill. Like ford, honda, toyota, they're all the same it's more or less aesthetics. I like Berettas particularly because the barrel stays in place and the recoil operation is smoother, especially with a LTT job.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kahr K9 Elite: The Eternal Erection

    Gun is the perfect size. It has a heft that makes it feel well crafted without being 1911 heavy, the weight is so well distributed, too. Recoil is light and streamlined into the wrist. The gun is pretty. It's just a handsome piece. The trigger is smooth, but long enough that you won't blow your wiener off if you're getting physically assaulted/maneuvering on your draw. The only drawback I have had with mine is the capacity restriction, ~10 rounds max. There's arguments to be made why that's fine/going to get you killed. I love this gun. I love her, and I want the world to know.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Guuuuurrrl

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The best gun for concealed carry is the one you are most comfortable using. Don't listen to anyone who says anything about stopping power or any of that bullshit. If a .22LR pistol is what you're most capable of handling, especially in an emergency situation, then go with that

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anything you like.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Biggest gun you can reasonably comfortably carry. Avoid any memes and don't try to be unique until you git good.
    >I carry a g19 owb covered by a shirt in a holster I made myself
    >I'm in a place where nothing bad happens if your shirt rides up and gun shows, nobody cares
    >the grip sticks out too much and it's not super comfortable
    >I decided about year and a half ago to get something smaller, but haven't gotten around to it yet

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever you're most comfortable shooting. If you like berretas then get yourself a smol berreta.

    Most pistols these days have a CC variant of some kind.

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