1. Its AP round. AP rounds are illeagl.
2. DoD owns M855A1 design and ain't gonna allow to companies to flood American streets with cop killing body armor piercing child slaying bullets based on this design.
Fundamentally nothing about the M855A1 is hard to recreate. AP rounds have been around all the way back in WW1. The M855A1 just uses a different metal and defines the weight powder load and whatnot.
They are that doesn't mean they are approved for public release (distribution A), that requires a lot of approvals and I see no benefit to allowing drawings for 120mm mortar cannons, munitions, or every single tank component and munition being public just because they are government TDP, they will almost certainly remain DoD and contractors only.
> I see no benefit to allowing drawings for 120mm mortar cannons, munitions, or every single tank component and munition being public just because they are government TDP
You're on the wrong board, israelite
I live in the real world where I don't feel like handing over technical documents to everything to any swinging dick in the globe who wants to produce them.
I live in the real world where I don't feel like handing over technical documents to everything to any swinging dick in the globe who wants to produce them.
but why would we want every single enemy of this country and average Joe to benefit off of the engineering and design work done by defense contractors and government engineers? Nope, weapon designs are better off being controlled to those who need them and broadly inaccessible to the public.
AP isn't illegal. You can still get M2 AP just fine. AP Pistol rounds are illegal due to some BS. And further BS from the ATF caused 7n6 to get banned because people were building 5.45 AK pistols and they argued that made it a pistol round. It still needs to be challenged in court.
1. Its AP round. AP rounds are illeagl.
2. DoD owns M855A1 design and ain't gonna allow to companies to flood American streets with cop killing body armor piercing child slaying bullets based on this design.
It's not an AP round as AP has specific material content requirements which M855A1 doesn't meet.
It's expensive and will always be. It's lead free (lol gay). I like knowing my trigger pulls result in lead particles flinging through the environment.
the curve of the magazine is different for the tan mag, just straighten enough so the tip of the A1 doesn't scratch the mag all the time
https://i.imgur.com/nbyci8P.jpg
Only if you aren't using a blue follower mag that corrects the feed angle so the tip isn't slamming into aluminum.
oooooor you could just use PMAGs or HK magazines
So is M855A1 actually hard on feed ramps?
no, as said above, it's total fuddlore.
ONE thing that is true and proven with pictures on the other hand is the M855A1 is really bad for the M27 IAR, the tip of the ammunition is slamming against the barrel at the chamber entrance and everytime it does that it leave a mark like a stamp, eventually after a while it dig even further and widen the hole of the chamber, this doesn't actually happen with the M4A1 and M16A4 (not tested on HK416)
>the curve of the magazine is different for the tan mag
Retard, do you even know what the fuck feed angle is? It has nothing to fucking do with the curve of the mag you stupid fuck.
I don't see any difference between the tan and blue one except for the color. Is the change so subtle that it isn't obvious in the picture?
>Is the change so subtle that it isn't obvious in the picture?
Yes. The feed lips will be slightly different so the round. Is tipped up just few degrees more. You're not going to be able to see that just by looking at the mag. Why would you even think it would be visibly different?
Why would I want to buy ammo I can't use at any range within 2 hours of me and also erodes my feed ramps?
>also erodes my feed ramps?
good seeing that this fuddlore will continue into the 2030s
>invest 100M$ into manufacturing
>ATF declares it an AP pistol round
The logic of green rounds that don't leave lead everywhere applies just as well to the commercial market
That's an import restriction.
If someone made AP rounds stateside it would be fine until ATF found some other avenue to fuck them.
>erodes my feed ramps
If you are shooting enough M855A1 to destroy your feed ramps then you can afford to get a new upper and barrel.
1. Its AP round. AP rounds are illeagl.
2. DoD owns M855A1 design and ain't gonna allow to companies to flood American streets with cop killing body armor piercing child slaying bullets based on this design.
>DoD owns the M855A1 design
Aren't government owned patents by definition public property?
Fundamentally nothing about the M855A1 is hard to recreate. AP rounds have been around all the way back in WW1. The M855A1 just uses a different metal and defines the weight powder load and whatnot.
They are that doesn't mean they are approved for public release (distribution A), that requires a lot of approvals and I see no benefit to allowing drawings for 120mm mortar cannons, munitions, or every single tank component and munition being public just because they are government TDP, they will almost certainly remain DoD and contractors only.
> I see no benefit to allowing drawings for 120mm mortar cannons, munitions, or every single tank component and munition being public just because they are government TDP
You're on the wrong board, israelite
I live in the real world where I don't feel like handing over technical documents to everything to any swinging dick in the globe who wants to produce them.
why are you so gay?
>You're on the wrong board, israelite
Original poster and not
but why would we want every single enemy of this country and average Joe to benefit off of the engineering and design work done by defense contractors and government engineers? Nope, weapon designs are better off being controlled to those who need them and broadly inaccessible to the public.
AP isn't illegal. You can still get M2 AP just fine. AP Pistol rounds are illegal due to some BS. And further BS from the ATF caused 7n6 to get banned because people were building 5.45 AK pistols and they argued that made it a pistol round. It still needs to be challenged in court.
yeah, the ban on AP ammo is for 'handguns' which is not the same thing as pistol, but obviously they like to push the limit as far as possible
i.e. de facto it is illegal to make commercial AP rounds in 5.56 caliber
Hoe id it illegal when it's not..?
>AP Pistol rounds are illegal due to some BS
Are you sure about that?
It's not an AP round as AP has specific material content requirements which M855A1 doesn't meet.
thats not AP.
No it has not been declared AP.
It could be but it hasn't yet. It's just an upgraded greentip, and thus is not AP and was never designed to be.
It's expensive and will always be. It's lead free (lol gay). I like knowing my trigger pulls result in lead particles flinging through the environment.
>I like flinging lead particles around
>actually sounds developmentally delayed
Kek
So is M855A1 actually hard on feed ramps?
Only if you aren't using a blue follower mag that corrects the feed angle so the tip isn't slamming into aluminum.
I don't see any difference between the tan and blue one except for the color. Is the change so subtle that it isn't obvious in the picture?
the curve of the magazine is different for the tan mag, just straighten enough so the tip of the A1 doesn't scratch the mag all the time
oooooor you could just use PMAGs or HK magazines
no, as said above, it's total fuddlore.
ONE thing that is true and proven with pictures on the other hand is the M855A1 is really bad for the M27 IAR, the tip of the ammunition is slamming against the barrel at the chamber entrance and everytime it does that it leave a mark like a stamp, eventually after a while it dig even further and widen the hole of the chamber, this doesn't actually happen with the M4A1 and M16A4 (not tested on HK416)
>the curve of the magazine is different for the tan mag
Retard, do you even know what the fuck feed angle is? It has nothing to fucking do with the curve of the mag you stupid fuck.
>Is the change so subtle that it isn't obvious in the picture?
Yes. The feed lips will be slightly different so the round. Is tipped up just few degrees more. You're not going to be able to see that just by looking at the mag. Why would you even think it would be visibly different?
It's under patent, or whatever still.