Combat Stims IRL?

Could you use drugs to make you more effective at shooting? I saw a anon saying in another thread that he uses valium to reduce his shaky hands to shoot better. Would this actually work? What other drugs can you think of that would make you more effective?

I have some leftover medications from some procedures so maybe I can do a scientific study on this comparing group sizes with and without the influence of the medication.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    back in WWII both sides would pass out amphetamines. I know the British gave Benzedrine to flight crews so they could stay awake for the duration of long missions.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    getting barred out before combat sounds like a great way to get rekt lol ..either that or end up a super soldier. we would take em high school and basically just turn into yes men and have wild uninhibited adventures so this could either lead to you getting insta killed or racking up an insane kill streak...or accidentally fragging yourself kek

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Valium
    There is a fine line between a dose that will reduce "shaky hands" and that will start reducing your reaction time and concentration.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it's called meth

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >soldiers stop fighting and start picking up agates
      Fuck

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ywn mix laboratory grade amphetamines and late prohibition era government made wines
        At least we have hentai

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >lab grade methampthetamines
          Typo fuck

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >diazapam to reduce anxiety
    >oxycodone to reduce pain
    >methamphetamine to increase reaction time, eliminate negative effects from the first 2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >eliminate negative effects from the first 2
      drugs don't just cancel out like that. have fun suffering the side effects of all 3

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Methamphetamine 100% will reduce the drowsiness and CNS depression symptoms from opiates, as it reverses serotonin flow in neurotransmitters.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What do you mean drugs don't work like buffs in mmo's?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > eliminate negative effects from the first 2
      ...thats not how dope works

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the thing that cancels out when you mix uppers and downers is your cardiovascular system anon, not the side effects

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >eliminate negative effects from the first 2
      drugs don't just cancel out like that. have fun suffering the side effects of all 3

      > eliminate negative effects from the first 2
      ...thats not how dope works

      Ignore these ninnys. I was abusing meth and potent RC benzos for a period (clonazolam, flubromazolam) and they absolutely synergize in a way that allows you to avoid the worsts part of both drugs.

      >0 inhibition from benzos and meth
      >totally alert from meth
      >no meth paranoia thanks to benzos

      Obviously such a potent combo is bound to have catastrophic consequences eventually, I wound up completely psychotic. But you absolutely can stack drugs to minimize side effects and create a unique effect.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you absolutely can stack drugs to minimize side effects and create a unique effect.
        Drugs are potions, potions are poisons with some desired effect, desired effect has diminishing returns, undesirable effects have compounding returns. Conclusion: if one is about to engage in a boss fight, one should prepot in such a way that the encounter will end in victory before the boss' enrage timer runs out. Failure to account for either the potential length of the encounter or the inevitable accumulation of debuffs will render ones potions into functional poisons, but only if the potioned one is forced to remain in play. Proper potting, mixed with righteous rotation of men, will lead to advantageous results. Improper potting, without righteous rotation of men, and without accounting for the length of the encounter, will lead to disadvantageous results. Metaconclusion: drug man win better if battle time short. Drug man lose worse if battle time long.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But whatabout buff foods and world buffs?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Quality of rations translates directly into food buffs, which is why America does shit like flying a fucking Burger King halfway across the globe or dedicate entire ships to making ice cream. World buffs also apply, and yet again, America has made sure to make it so that there is a persistent culture buff present in most corners of the world, and will organize additional buffs in the form of USO shit like concerts or films.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how much cock you suck gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not as much as you.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          none

          what's on your mind bud?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I spent a year juggling Xanax and amphetamine and I concur.
        That said, "juggling" is a key word, as time goes on you need increasingly larger doses to stay in the vicinity of the "peak" and it's getting harder and harder to balance to the point where you're just sitting over a pile of pills and powder taking a little bit of this and a little bit of that and I imagine there's more important stuff to do in combat.

        Personally, I would only use drugs to compensate for something not going right like me being extremely fatigued, paralyzed with fear etc. and only as a band-aid solution. I wouldn't pre-medicate myself hoping to become a super soldier cause the benefit wouldn't be worth the crash.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it was totally fine
        >I wound up completely psychotic
        Perfect thing for soldiers, really.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >But you absolutely can stack drugs to minimize side effects and create a unique effect
        Based chem addict build

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not how it works at all. You will just end up piling on drugs to end up 70% as effective at everything.
      t. rainbow soup enjoyer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, take carfentanyl to calm the nerves,
      benzodiazepines to steady the hands,
      metanfetamines to improve reaction time
      and just round it all up with a little dextrametamorphine+flakka mixed with sodium-nitrate
      to eliminate negative effects

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alcohol reduces shakes and is specifically banned for competitive rifle shooting.

    https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2015/6/10/ncaa-banned-substances.aspx

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was about to suggest mixing alcohol and caffeine.
      very potent, I suggest pernods absinthe or Wray and Nephew over proof rum.
      Find a proper dosage that you can tolerate but that makes your muscles feel loose and a bit numb then slam like 3-4 monsters.
      I've done super human shit at work with that combo.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Alcohol is really tricky to dose for beneficial effects unless you have absolute control over sleep, diet, and exertion. If you've slept poorly the night before and haven't eaten enough before you drink, you can get too drunk on an amount that would just chill you out under different circumstances.

        That sweet spot where the alcohol makes you relaxed but energized and keeps you from overthinking things, allowing muscle memory to work it's magic etc is pretty great though. I've only experienced it during early night gaming though.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A real drunkard can gauge the effect alcohol is going to have on him at that moment as soon as he takes the first sip. I would know.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          from experience there's a sweet spot of tolerane where you can pretty much drink as much as you can and stay in the golden zone you described.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I imagine if you had to absolutely had to increase aggression to hold or take a hill you could pass out halo to the troops.
    I only tried it once i did feel more "on", but it didn't increase my lifts any more than anodrol. I should have gotten into a fight to see what happened.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Precision shooting has practically no effect on infantry effectiveness. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS GOOD DECISION-MAKING.
    You are fucking retarded if you do anything that would degrade your decision making abilities in a dangerous situation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok, then NCOs can’t get loaded. if you’ve ever been an infantry private you know you have zero decision making responsibility, you literally get pointed in a direction and pointed in a direction you’re allowed to kill people in

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Retarded things privates do that good decision avoids.
        >do I move into the doorway
        >do I poke my head up to look now
        >how long do I poke my head out
        >do I all of my eat my MRE?
        >do I turn off my safety now
        >is this cover or concealment
        And a billion others. Privates are dumb enough as it is, taxing their judgement is retarded and everyone who thinks it isn't is also retarded.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>do I all of my eat my MRE?
          >sarnt do i eat the moist towelette??

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You would not believe the shit NCOs are putting up with every moment of every day in every military since the dawn of forever.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, it's so you don't have to wipe as it comes out

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Nazis gave their allies Pervitin tablets and that was just pharmaceutical grade meth.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't Pervitin amphetamines, not methamphetamine?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nope. Straight up meth.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    adderall is probably one of the few actually useful ones that doesn't have dependency issues.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about giving troops anabolic steroids?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      doesn't seen useful. pretty much all troops are mechanized in some capacity so being a superhuman doesn't give that many benefits compared to the potential VA costs down the line.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If all troops are mechanized why do so many complain about back and knee pain? The average combat load is over a 100 pounds so I think steroids could help

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >why do so many complain about back and knee pain?

          exclusively caused by needlessly punishing exercises.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sometimes you need to push past your limits, and you need to know you can.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What limits? All American soldiers do is cry for air support, kneel for BLM, plant chud flags and drive around in humvees

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cool story bro

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What about giving troops anabolic steroids?

        Many infantrymen already juice. The military does not test for steroids unless someone walks in on you injecting yourself.

        >doesn't seem useful
        Retard.
        Bodybuilders blast insane amounts of steroids to get large. Lower doses just improve athletic performance across the board AND allow you to recover from muscular injuries faster.
        This all comes at a cost later in life of course.

        >I saw a anon saying in another thread that he uses valium to reduce his shaky hands to shoot better.
        no you didnt you dumb nafo gay

        its from a fucking videogame from 1998
        "Metal Gear Solid"
        >i heard some gay told me he took pills before sniping a woman in a blizzard!"
        nu PrepHole is unreal.

        it needs killled

        Stfu dumbass.
        It might sound like bullshit if you've never used benzos but they really are amazing. If you are prone to the shakes then benzos absolutely will help.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Modafinil checks all boxes. Barely any abuse potential and side effects for substantial gain in mental fatigue reduction and offsetting lack of sleep.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      modafinil with adderall
      throw in some caffeine and theanine to counter act the shakes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why modafinil with adderall? Just have one or the other.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    4-Fluoroamphetamine would make for one hell of a combat drug. It feels like a refined experience of meth/dex amphetamine, with all the rough edges ground off to make you wakeful, quick-witted, laser-focused, highly attentive and absolutely confident. At higher doses it resembles a party drug, but kept to minimal dosage over short periods (less than 12 hours) it beats anything currently used.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >soldier
      That is clearly a box of crayons on his chest so he's a marine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he snorts them, so.. probably

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >diminishing returns
    >always metabolic tradeoff that could compound wounds
    >withdrawal/side effects the last thing you want modifying PTSD
    Can't all be Tibetan monks controlling body process willfully, so perhaps for snipers out in the field for extended periods on recon or defending static positions for marginal long ass shots gain.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imma just post the Finn.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Beta blockers and methamphetamine. Beta blockers essentially kill the fight-or-flight response. Methamphetamine improves alertness, but should be a very small dose.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >microdosing meth
      Ahh. Takes me back to my construction days.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. I have used amphetamine to compete in shotokan but in sniping you don't want any shit that makes you jittery or sleepy, even nicotine

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe someone here can jog my memory. Back in ye olde days people would talk about Delta, maybe it was the Rangers, or someone else but they were definitely an American crew that would drip feed pain killers during missions by sucking on lollipops filled with them. I can't recall what the supposed chemical was (I don't believe it was morphine) and I don't remember which group it was. Googling this has always gotten me nowhere, so I tend to ask in these threads if any of this rings a bell.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      probably fentanyl. they give fentanyl "candies" to old people sometimes.
      but i think it is unlikely you'd get them in some sort of combat situation. the depressant effect of being on opioids during a mission would probably not be useful.

      in regards to drugs you might actually take. perhaps something like a beta blocker. they're banned in shooting sports. they reduce how hard the heart pumps, reduces blood pressure, reduces tremors in the hands. so you could get a more accurate shot, perhaps. but that's in a controlled, calm, sport shooting scenario. beta blockers reduce your cardiac output, because your heart isn't pumping so hard. you wouldn't take them as a bicyclist, because it fucks up your endurance.

      maybe something like amphetamine would be useful, but only in small doses. when they used to give pilots amphetamines, the problem is that as the dose increases, confidence increases, but quality of decision making decreases. so you make poor decisions, faster, and are confident that you did the right thing. or in other words it made pilots more impulsive. they would just act without thinking through their decision fully, and they would have worse performance than people who weren't on any drugs at all.
      it's called the "Yerkes–Dodson law" or "arousal curve".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not sure you have the full grasp of it. I know I don't either, but I remember seeing some video on meds for ADHD the other day and they also mentioned this curve. The difference was that they talking about finding the optimal dose - the peak - for the individual. Too much dopamine and the brain becomes inflexible (zombie mode). Too little and the condition isn't fixed. You need to find the dose that corresponds to the brain chemistry of the patient.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i don't think anyone has a full grasp of it, frankly. it's just tangentially related to what i do for a living. the problem is that the curve is a dynamic thing. what might be a good dose to push you into the perfect peak for taking an exam, might bring you over that when you're defusing a bomb. it's really complex and we don't really understand how the brain works.
          it's probably better, in reality, to not drug a soldier and instead expose them to stressful situations so they can build up a natural capacity to function in stressful situations.
          something like modafinil or caffeine, which don't really impact executive functioning and decision making, but instead suppress the feeling of being tired, are probably more practically useful.
          but that's just conjecture, i don't know.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not that guy, but another kind of drug with potentially legitimate military uses are mild sedatives to help people fall asleep. Dunno if there's a downer equivalent to caffeine, with similarly mild side effects.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I saw a anon saying in another thread that he uses valium to reduce his shaky hands to shoot better.
    no you didnt you dumb nafo gay

    its from a fucking videogame from 1998
    "Metal Gear Solid"
    >i heard some gay told me he took pills before sniping a woman in a blizzard!"
    nu PrepHole is unreal.

    it needs killled

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I heard a guy high on valium took on multiple squads of Russians on a ship with nothing but a suppressed USP 45.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That’s an HK Mk-23, I cant think of any other the games he uses a USP 45

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          anon is referring to the tanker mission of mgs2 where snake picks up a usp 45 from olga

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fair enough

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon is referring to the tanker mission of mgs2 where snake picks up a usp 45 from olga

        It’s a USP9, it has a 15rd capacity during the tanker mission.

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