Colt AR15A4 or Windham Weaponry M4A4?

Colts seem to have more issues with a simple google search, I’m more looking for anyone with direct experience who owns either. Sorry for wasting a thread but I’m looking to purchase in the next couple days, help a PrepHoleunt out please..

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Colt is what losers like the United States military uses, so avoid.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Open up an image of each on one separate tab
    When it's late and you go fap before going to bed, at the last second before cooming, switch to one of the tabs
    It is then that you will know

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Colt.

    If i were you i'd look for an older Sporter/LE model and dress it up like an A4, though.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    threads like these are so retarded because at the end of the day they're both ar15s. just buy one that isn't $400 and you'll be good

    colt looks better aesthetically but just get whatevers cheaper

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are there even any $400 ARs left in "current year"?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ATI

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >not including tax
          >not including transfer fee for the lower
          >not including a non-chinese rear sight
          close enough I guess

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Wants a $400 AR
            >Shown a $400 AR
            >Muh optics
            Listen pal, either tell us from the get go what you want or get out. There's no such thing as implied tasks.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP here, I guess I probably should have titled this thread “reasons not to go with Colt”. I’ve heard things over the last few years about QC issues, particularly with barrel flaws, and that they’re either better or worse once they got bought by CZ. I looked up tied lists and Colt and Windham seem to fall pretty close on most of them.

    I already have an M&P with about 4k rounds through it so far, an optic, light and sling. I’m looking for the next step up, 20” retro build to get gud with iron sights with.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Get an old Bushmaster then. Always were better than Colt and are cheaper. Fixed carry handle variant of course. Don't pay more than 800 for one. Windham was founded by the Bushmaster guys btw.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But PrepHole told me Bushmaster are utter shit when I made an AR brands thread some time ago

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Old ones were good, last 3 yrs of production are hipoint tier.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          bushmaster got bought out by a private equity firm called Freedon Group that drove it to even shittier lows. Freedom Group went and fired all the employees and tried to sell all the equipment. the original bushmaster owner saw this, bought the equipment back, and restarted as Windham weaponry after his non-competition agreement expired.
          or so what I've been told.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For what it's worth, I bought a Colt 6921 upper a while back. Finish and fit was great. But the fucking front sight was canted to the left so bad I had to move my rear sight windage 18 clicks over. Fuck Colt. I love my Fulton built A2

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a Windham and it feels like cheap shit and shoots like it as well. My Colt was better, but my buddies FN is superior to all of them.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Either one. Both do the same thing. Only old people care about rollmarks

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i have the Windham Upper and never had a problem with it. Have probably 1000 rounds through it by now, never cleaned it, only lubed it then and again. Inside of Gas Key and Bolt Carrier is chrome lined, barrel is chrome lined as well. Very good accuracy at 100 meters with cheap M193. I never understood why people would go with the colt instead, the WW has everything you need and its really good quality.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >not meticulously cleaning your firearms after every use

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >meticulously cleaning your firearms after every use

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why though? Cleaning is overrated, lubing is important. I also never cleaned the barrel, whats the point?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          are we still talking about guns

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Are You?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I never understood why people would go with the colt instead
      brand name recognition, Colt is the Harley Davidson of guns

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have Windham M4A4. Breddy gud rifle, is milspec, no bells or whistles, great start for M16 build.
    I've dropped it numerous times, ran about 2k rounds through it (both steel and brass), no issues whatsoever. Pretty accurate too. Would buy again.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      pic related, it's my current build

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Very nice anon, very nice. Is that the Vortex Strike Eagle? Been thinking of getting it myself, either that or the primary arms 5x prism. Love the Quadrails, but it still needs a bayonet to be perfect

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It is, 1-6x variant. Wouldn't go for prism, I like the variability and scope just sits right with 20" lenght.
          Quads are original KAC, look for used/military issued ones, it's gonna save you like 3/4 of the price.
          I was thinking about bayonet, but they're like $250 here in CZ.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why dont you get the Eickhorn M7? 160 Euros, good Eickhorn-Solingen Quality. I have one cause i couldnt find Ontario ones, its great quality

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Original is original, same why I got KAC handguard

              Also how much does your setup weigh, with sling and loaded magazine? The Vortex should add like 0,6 kg to the gun i think

              About 10lb.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Also how much does your setup weigh, with sling and loaded magazine? The Vortex should add like 0,6 kg to the gun i think

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have never owned a Colt so I can't compare, but I have owned several AR15s including a Windham WW15 currently (standard M4 Carbine style with 14,5" barrel). Here is what I have to say about it :
    -Castle nut isn't staked, not that it hard to do if you want to.
    -Front sight block is slightly canted (like on most AR15 I have seen), but this didn't prevent me from zeroing in the gun. Also, the FSB is not F marked, so you can only use the non-milspec carry handle that is sold with it, if you want to install a folding rear sight, you'll have to get a taller sight front post to compensate.
    -The barrel nut was overtorqued, as a result the gas tube was bent and and the handguard was canted.
    -The gun is clearly overgased. It functions fine, but cases aren't ejected far, and in a 1 to to 2'oclock direction. I have installed a H2 Buffer, stronger buffer spring, as well as a stronger extractor spring, and now it just throws brass all over the place from 1 to 5' oclock, sometimes it ejects at a normal distance, sometimes not.
    -Trigger is extremely heavy, the worst stock trigger I've ever had in an AR.

    I'm considering selling it because I can't look past the overgasing issue, having brass all over the place is annoying. And no, I won't install an adjustable gas block because I bought this gun specifically because I wanted an original M4 carbine lookalike, Colts are pretty much impossible to find in my country, and there weren't much alternatives.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are the left handed uppers from stag arms decent for a build?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks again everyone. I’ve decided to hold off on another AR for now and am going with the PTR 91 with welded top rail. I have wanted a .308 but wasn’t thrilled about what the PTRs cost but have found one closer to $1,100 so I grabbed it. Still plan on getting a rifle length AR, and I took notes from those of you who gave genuine feedback.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just bought one. I like it, I have not fired it yet though. It is a stiff rifle to operate. To cock it, I find that I need to brace the rifle against my shoulder and push it forward with my shoulder while pulling back on the handle. To even cam the cocking lever outwards takes some strength. It's not as obvious to disassemble and reassemble the bolt group as it is on competitor rifles. Until you get used to it, inserting a magazine isn't smooth. It will never be as smooth as an AR design is on magazines. Reassembly of the stock into the receiver is fiddly, something you never see on YouTube. Lining up the stock, receiver and trigger housing isn't a smooth seamless process compared to the AR. When you have it lined up, you need to slam the stock home or the takedown pins will bind up when you reinsert them. About the bolt head, I find I need a rag in order to twist it when I put it back together.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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