they're awesome if you enjoy shards of metal and cheap turkish polymer in your eye sockets
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$200!!!
iVE SEEN THAT PIECE OF SHIT SELLING FOR $120 NOT TO LONG AGO
>just get a maverick
Y'all didn't even look at the gun, you just assumed it was a Turkish pump. Keep shilling the Mexican Mossberg, which distinctly lacks main feature of the Civet-12, being magazine fed.
The Civet is good, it's a well made Remington 870 copy that's been redesigned for box magazines. They put actual effort into it, and it's got plenty going for it that even a real 870 is lacking, like a trigger guard made from steel instead of plastic, threaded inserts for the buttpad so you don't just jam woodscrews into plastic, and a removable picatinny rail / sight combo.
They used to say the same shit about the pardner pump; is it was worse than any actual 870 I ever handled. Especially considering how cheap you can get a well loved wingmaster at auctions.
The Pardner Pump was a fricking joke, one of the last examples of a random piece of shit made-to-a-price product with the H&R name slapped on it because the name was all the brand had before they completely DIED.
Comparing the Pardner Pump to the Civet-12 is a fricking joke.
The Civet-12 is just a magazine-fed IAC Hawk-982, they're not made to be the cheapest piece of shit out there, they're just made to be good. They're cheap because it's fricking China and no matter how much effort you put into it, it's going to be cheap thanks to the pseudo-slave labor. They could probably make and sell these for half the price if they wanted to.
The Pardner Pump is and will always be trash. Heavy as frick because of how much cheap metal they have to use to make up for the fact that it's cheap metal. Metal injection molded parts (won't find that in the Civet, all the Civet small-parts are machined.), cheap shitty moldings for the rubber/plastic components, they're just shitty. I doubt anyone has ever gotten one past 500rds before the action locked up, then you're playing the warranty game through multiple importers of a shit-tier Chinese gun because so FEW 870 components actually fit the Pardner Pump aside from the barrel. Oh, some barrels. A few. Not all of them.
Who the frick ever said the Pardner Pump was good? The Pardner Pump has ALWAYS been regarded as a shit. It's been around for 20 years and the rhetoric has never changed, it's a shit-tier 870.
If someone told you something good about the Pardner Pump, they're a fricking moron who doesn't know what they're talking about.
>Heard it all before
You haven't heard shit, homosexual.
Why the frick do you need a box magazine fed pump action shotgun? Shotgun box magazines are notoriously unreliable, yes even Saiga. They are too bulky to carry, heavy, make your gun handle worse, awkward to load, awkward to reload, make your shotgun bulkier. They add no legitimate benefit beyond call of duty larping. You must be 18 to post here.
They're exactly as good as a $200 Chinese 870 that take Saiga mags, because that's what they are.
Don't buy it if you're trying to defend your home, hunt ducks, or shoot clay. Do buy it if you think it'd be fun, because it's definitely fun.
Feels like you're holding an 870, except for the Saiga mag dangling. That is, it does NOT have that tight and controllable tacti-cool shotgun feel, rather it feels like pretty much any 870, and that's just fine.
Upside, it's made from the ground up as a mag-fed 870, rather than some company taking 870s and chopping them up to build mag-fed models like fricking Remington does themselves with the 870DM at triple the price of this thing.
Cheap, uses already available and proven magazines, can take regular 870 buttstocks and forends.
Dollar for dollar it's a huge laugh and a frickin' steal for $200.
>Don't buy it if you're trying to defend your home, hunt ducks, or shoot clay. Do buy it if you think it'd be fun, because it's definitely fun.
Do you not shoot for fun? Like, do you ONLY buy guns based on practicality and tactical capability? Grown-up larpers are still larpers, you can frick off if you don't plink or otherwise shoot for fun.
Yeah it’s real fun wasting money and ammunition on a sloppy unreliable chink shit pump action does nothing better than a mossberg 88. I don’t know how it’s supposed to be more “fun” than any other shotgun that you can actually use for practical purposes as well. Please explain to me how having the ammunition load in a box instead of a tube makes it more fun. Please, I’m waiting.
Oh shit you really don't get any pleasure out of shooting. Being able to drop a mag and slap in another is entertaining. You have a huge variety of magazines to choose from, in different sizes and of different construction.
If you don't think a Maverick 88 would be more fun with a drum magazine, you must be one sad motherfricker.
Wasting ammo? On a pump action that is incredibly reliable and cycles perfectly? What wasted ammo? Way to talk out of your gaping butthole.
This isn't a Turkish semi-auto, this is an actual gun, it's extremely well made and works beautifully.
I love how you think the Mexican Mossberg is reliable but this gun you've never even heard of is not. Sorry kiddo, the Civet-12 is good shit, and shooting guns in fun.
Disagree all you want, you'll still be wrong.
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The only thing more fun than a Maverick 88 with a drum mag is a semi-auto Maverick 88 with a drum magazine.
You’re the same type of moron that buys canik pistols aren’t you. I’m not averse to fun. I’m averse to dogshit products that aren’t worth expending valuable ammunition on when I could shoot things that don’t suck.
They're exactly as good as a $200 Chinese 870 that take Saiga mags, because that's what they are.
Don't buy it if you're trying to defend your home, hunt ducks, or shoot clay. Do buy it if you think it'd be fun, because it's definitely fun.
Feels like you're holding an 870, except for the Saiga mag dangling. That is, it does NOT have that tight and controllable tacti-cool shotgun feel, rather it feels like pretty much any 870, and that's just fine.
Upside, it's made from the ground up as a mag-fed 870, rather than some company taking 870s and chopping them up to build mag-fed models like fricking Remington does themselves with the 870DM at triple the price of this thing.
Cheap, uses already available and proven magazines, can take regular 870 buttstocks and forends.
Dollar for dollar it's a huge laugh and a frickin' steal for $200.
Disregard these homosexuals who've never even heard of this thing. It's a great gun, a seriously well made 870. I got to shoot the frick out of one a few weeks back, and it was a riot. Owner had nothing but good things to say about it, and research has backed up every single thing he's told me. I'm looking forward to picking one up for myself once my H&R sells.
They don't have to force feed, you just walk around the jungle looking for those coffee-bean shits. Civet coffee was invented by lazy jungle Black person-chinks who decided picking up turds was easier than harvesting beans themselves. White people show up and unknowingly drink cat-shit coffee, which happens to be delicious, one thing leads to another and now you have the civet-coffee industry.
Oddly not, some folks had this same thought and looked into it, and found that wasn't the case.
That said, toxoplasmosis spreads so fricking easily it's probably irrelevant.
The people harvesting have already contracted it from just living in close-quarters with wild cats.
The people drinking the coffee already have it because they have pet cats or dogs, and somewhere around 50% of domestics cats and dogs already have it. (Though only about 1% at any given time are able to spread it.)
If you're an American, you've got a 1 in 5 chance you've already got it anyway.
That's right, I'm still here telling people how great this gun is, because I want anyone who considers one to absolutely go ahead and purchase it if the price is right. Again, for fun, this thing as a whole would be a fricking stupid choice for home defense.
Meanwhile, some people just assume it's bad because they dislike China, and feel the need to tell people that it's bad, even though they're blatantly wrong and don't know anything about it.
I actually own a civet 12, its a fairly reliable shotgun. With that being said mine is tempermental when it comes to ammo it simply won't cycle herters 3" water-foul shot yet cycles everything else I've shot fine. The reason they are so cheap is most of the internal parts are custom fitted which adds to the cost of the parts to be replaced, so it comes out cheaper just to buy a new one if something in it breaks. As far as reloading being awkward not really its similar to an ar especially if you change the stock to an ATI T3.
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About as good as that time that your dad snuck into your sisters room.
Turkish guns suck, spend a little more on something reliable like a Maverick 88
Not Turkish, Chinese, far superior. Stick a Norinco sticker on it to help communicate the message.
So it’s a step up I guess, if you want chinkshit get a Lynx 12
>Costs more than twice as much
>Unreliable and Unfun because you spend more time cussing about your ammo than actually getting to shoot.
Why the frick would you recommend that over a high-quality 870 clone?
Y'all didn't even look at the gun, you just assumed it was a Turkish pump. Keep shilling the Mexican Mossberg, which distinctly lacks main feature of the Civet-12, being magazine fed.
The Civet is good, it's a well made Remington 870 copy that's been redesigned for box magazines. They put actual effort into it, and it's got plenty going for it that even a real 870 is lacking, like a trigger guard made from steel instead of plastic, threaded inserts for the buttpad so you don't just jam woodscrews into plastic, and a removable picatinny rail / sight combo.
They used to say the same shit about the pardner pump; is it was worse than any actual 870 I ever handled. Especially considering how cheap you can get a well loved wingmaster at auctions.
The Pardner Pump was a fricking joke, one of the last examples of a random piece of shit made-to-a-price product with the H&R name slapped on it because the name was all the brand had before they completely DIED.
Comparing the Pardner Pump to the Civet-12 is a fricking joke.
The Civet-12 is just a magazine-fed IAC Hawk-982, they're not made to be the cheapest piece of shit out there, they're just made to be good. They're cheap because it's fricking China and no matter how much effort you put into it, it's going to be cheap thanks to the pseudo-slave labor. They could probably make and sell these for half the price if they wanted to.
The Pardner Pump is and will always be trash. Heavy as frick because of how much cheap metal they have to use to make up for the fact that it's cheap metal. Metal injection molded parts (won't find that in the Civet, all the Civet small-parts are machined.), cheap shitty moldings for the rubber/plastic components, they're just shitty. I doubt anyone has ever gotten one past 500rds before the action locked up, then you're playing the warranty game through multiple importers of a shit-tier Chinese gun because so FEW 870 components actually fit the Pardner Pump aside from the barrel. Oh, some barrels. A few. Not all of them.
Civet-12 > All Turkish Shotguns > Pardner Pump
Nah man. Heard it all before. Chinese clones are shit, including you, Chang T. Shill.
Hey look a moronic noguns who thinks he knows what he's talking about, cute.
Here comes the PRC defense force!
>Never heard of this gun before seeing this thread
>It's garbage!
Who the frick ever said the Pardner Pump was good? The Pardner Pump has ALWAYS been regarded as a shit. It's been around for 20 years and the rhetoric has never changed, it's a shit-tier 870.
If someone told you something good about the Pardner Pump, they're a fricking moron who doesn't know what they're talking about.
>Heard it all before
You haven't heard shit, homosexual.
Why the frick do you need a box magazine fed pump action shotgun? Shotgun box magazines are notoriously unreliable, yes even Saiga. They are too bulky to carry, heavy, make your gun handle worse, awkward to load, awkward to reload, make your shotgun bulkier. They add no legitimate benefit beyond call of duty larping. You must be 18 to post here.
>Don't buy it if you're trying to defend your home, hunt ducks, or shoot clay. Do buy it if you think it'd be fun, because it's definitely fun.
Do you not shoot for fun? Like, do you ONLY buy guns based on practicality and tactical capability? Grown-up larpers are still larpers, you can frick off if you don't plink or otherwise shoot for fun.
Yeah it’s real fun wasting money and ammunition on a sloppy unreliable chink shit pump action does nothing better than a mossberg 88. I don’t know how it’s supposed to be more “fun” than any other shotgun that you can actually use for practical purposes as well. Please explain to me how having the ammunition load in a box instead of a tube makes it more fun. Please, I’m waiting.
Oh shit you really don't get any pleasure out of shooting. Being able to drop a mag and slap in another is entertaining. You have a huge variety of magazines to choose from, in different sizes and of different construction.
If you don't think a Maverick 88 would be more fun with a drum magazine, you must be one sad motherfricker.
Wasting ammo? On a pump action that is incredibly reliable and cycles perfectly? What wasted ammo? Way to talk out of your gaping butthole.
This isn't a Turkish semi-auto, this is an actual gun, it's extremely well made and works beautifully.
I love how you think the Mexican Mossberg is reliable but this gun you've never even heard of is not. Sorry kiddo, the Civet-12 is good shit, and shooting guns in fun.
Disagree all you want, you'll still be wrong.
The only thing more fun than a Maverick 88 with a drum mag is a semi-auto Maverick 88 with a drum magazine.
I bet you b***h and moan about people buying cars that aren't a Toyota Prius, because practicality is the only thing that matters.
You’re the same type of moron that buys canik pistols aren’t you. I’m not averse to fun. I’m averse to dogshit products that aren’t worth expending valuable ammunition on when I could shoot things that don’t suck.
This has to be an AI thread holy shit man this is unreal
Chinese Advertisers > Army Recruiters
that was from a squib you c**t
So he like, fired it, and it went pop but not bang, nothing hit the target, and he fired the gun again?
Unless he was in an actual life or death situation, he frickin' earned that facial trophy.
they're awesome if you enjoy shards of metal and cheap turkish polymer in your eye sockets
They're exactly as good as a $200 Chinese 870 that take Saiga mags, because that's what they are.
Don't buy it if you're trying to defend your home, hunt ducks, or shoot clay. Do buy it if you think it'd be fun, because it's definitely fun.
Feels like you're holding an 870, except for the Saiga mag dangling. That is, it does NOT have that tight and controllable tacti-cool shotgun feel, rather it feels like pretty much any 870, and that's just fine.
Upside, it's made from the ground up as a mag-fed 870, rather than some company taking 870s and chopping them up to build mag-fed models like fricking Remington does themselves with the 870DM at triple the price of this thing.
Cheap, uses already available and proven magazines, can take regular 870 buttstocks and forends.
Dollar for dollar it's a huge laugh and a frickin' steal for $200.
$200!!!
iVE SEEN THAT PIECE OF SHIT SELLING FOR $120 NOT TO LONG AGO
>just get a maverick
Disregard these homosexuals who've never even heard of this thing. It's a great gun, a seriously well made 870. I got to shoot the frick out of one a few weeks back, and it was a riot. Owner had nothing but good things to say about it, and research has backed up every single thing he's told me. I'm looking forward to picking one up for myself once my H&R sells.
isn't the civet that cat they force-feed coffee beans to so weirdos can make coffee with them once they shit them out?
They don't have to force feed, you just walk around the jungle looking for those coffee-bean shits. Civet coffee was invented by lazy jungle Black person-chinks who decided picking up turds was easier than harvesting beans themselves. White people show up and unknowingly drink cat-shit coffee, which happens to be delicious, one thing leads to another and now you have the civet-coffee industry.
Sounds like a good way to get toxoplasmosis.
Oddly not, some folks had this same thought and looked into it, and found that wasn't the case.
That said, toxoplasmosis spreads so fricking easily it's probably irrelevant.
The people harvesting have already contracted it from just living in close-quarters with wild cats.
The people drinking the coffee already have it because they have pet cats or dogs, and somewhere around 50% of domestics cats and dogs already have it. (Though only about 1% at any given time are able to spread it.)
If you're an American, you've got a 1 in 5 chance you've already got it anyway.
Funny, the shill keeps posting and the poster count isnt going up. Laughable, Ping Pong.
That's right, I'm still here telling people how great this gun is, because I want anyone who considers one to absolutely go ahead and purchase it if the price is right. Again, for fun, this thing as a whole would be a fricking stupid choice for home defense.
Meanwhile, some people just assume it's bad because they dislike China, and feel the need to tell people that it's bad, even though they're blatantly wrong and don't know anything about it.
You will never be a world power.
chinkshit
I'm just guessing turkshit, if so, than no, it's fricking trash.
If they're $200, then there's probably a damn good reason why.
It's difficult to get a damn .22lr Single-Action revolver for less than $200, so a shotgun being that low is fricking suspicious.
My LGS hasn't even heard of this shotgun. Looks like some good range fun, though.
I actually own a civet 12, its a fairly reliable shotgun. With that being said mine is tempermental when it comes to ammo it simply won't cycle herters 3" water-foul shot yet cycles everything else I've shot fine. The reason they are so cheap is most of the internal parts are custom fitted which adds to the cost of the parts to be replaced, so it comes out cheaper just to buy a new one if something in it breaks. As far as reloading being awkward not really its similar to an ar especially if you change the stock to an ATI T3.