China's 4th Gen Tank

CGs is based from the recent leaked footage.

Confirmed features:

>ETC Main Cannon of unknown caliber
>Two Man Crew in Chassis
>Unmanned Turret
>Lightweight, High Mobility
>Turret APS with 360° coverage (Trophy style)
>Active Electromagnetic ERA (detonates before round hits by radio frequency trigger, useful vs kinetic rounds)

Looks like a pretty rad contender to the next generation of tanks other countries are developing.

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    why don't they just make a 5th or 6th gen tank

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Source of leaked footage:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1613518559090708483

    Screengrab shows the ERA exploding before the round hits, intercepting it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Working principle: RF sensors inside each tile detect incoming rounds and trigger the charge

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        this ERA is designated as FY-5, apparently.

        FY-4 is the one that equips the current Chinese tankline.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Also in the footages; side-arrays for the APS radar system.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Apparently, same as the GL-6 shown in the 2022 Zhuhai Airshow.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/gGwePeC.jpg

            Moar CGs

            https://i.imgur.com/JtnmF8F.jpg

            Some sources say the ETC gun could be a 105mm caliber and it would have similiar power compared to the 125mm due to much higher velocities, but this is still unknown how much of it is true.

            are they seriously using Sprocket for official purposes?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Sprocket's come a long way.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not knocking Sprocket, just voicing my amazement that they'd be using it.
                Probably a decent tool to use just in terms of working on a early/quick concept for a new vehicle but I would never expect that to be for anything but internal use

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/t6bXFPC.jpg

            CGs is based from the recent leaked footage.

            Confirmed features:

            >ETC Main Cannon of unknown caliber
            >Two Man Crew in Chassis
            >Unmanned Turret
            >Lightweight, High Mobility
            >Turret APS with 360° coverage (Trophy style)
            >Active Electromagnetic ERA (detonates before round hits by radio frequency trigger, useful vs kinetic rounds)

            Looks like a pretty rad contender to the next generation of tanks other countries are developing.

            take a look at the wheels.They still use derivative of soviet design, even in their CGI fantasy.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >RF sensor
        Sounds like you could use a microwave or something to set these off at range. What would happen to a tank if all the ERA detonated at once? Just scare the crew or damage the suspension?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, rf sensor activated era panels seem to give a limited gain for whatever cost you put in.
          Money is better spent on soft and hard kill systems. Something like DIRCM to throw off javalin type missiles coupled with an APS like trophy.

          Also, stylistically this tank looks oddly similar to the t14…more so than any resemblance to western style next gen MBTs. Interesting

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >you could use a microwave or something to set these off at range.
          This is very stupid on so many levels

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Not him, but if the rf sensors would be tuned to a specific frequency. You could potentially trip or delay the trigger if you hit it with a concentrated beam of rf waves, which is what microwave weapons are designed to do
            https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257777095_Detection_and_identification_of_objects_based_on_radio-frequency_signatures

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Emitting in an active warzone
        Kek

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          APS radars are also emitting in an active warzone, friendo.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Emitting in an active warzone
            Kek

            what if you made the APS radar emitters little disposable drones that fly around a hundreds meters from the tank and also talk to all the other tanks to create one giant distributed radar network over your armor formation, which can then task ERA and multiple types of APS systems with engaging targets, and since we're making these drones so loud EM wise let's also make them EW platforms

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              At that point you can just add CIWS on top of every tank.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah and

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Screengrab shows the ERA exploding before the round hits
      what if you run at the tank at great speeds

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I think the triggering system has a simple CPU that discriminates against small (bullet/autogun sized) and slow targets beneath a certain threshold. This is simple enough that even WWII era RF fuze could do by mechanics

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        If you can run at the speed of a missile, glowies are gonna black bag you and ship you off to a vivisection becuase you're clearly a fucking alien or some shit.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          How are they supposed to catch you if you can run that fast.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        it has no barrel stabilization so they cant fire on the move. this tank is clearly the dig it into the ground t72 style and hope for the best

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >it has no barrel stabilization
          Source on that? The ZTZ-99 and previous 96 model and all the pimped out T-55 clones before that all had it. Makes 0 sense unless you are making shit up.

          Hate how hard it is to have a rational discussion on Chinese stuff on PrepHole, literally every post devolves into reactionary shit flinging and literally making shit up.

          https://i.imgur.com/TVC6lId.jpg

          I wouldnt be worried about the onboard UAV, since in the 2022 airshow they have shown exactly that as an upgrade package for their older tank models.
          I'm more concerned about the seeming fact that the new tank is based on a modified light-tank chassis, albeit with thick MBT-class glacis to protect the crew there, but other than that, completely reliant on active means of defense.

          China really wants a "high-speed low drag" kind of tank-force, while the rest of the world is going heavier again in anticipation of a great power conflict.

          Probably because the PLA is more focused around being a regional power, don't really need armor when at worst you're gonna be fighting retarded Pajeets in T-72's and whatever crap Russia could scrape up.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >every post devolves into reactionary shit flinging
            NTA but it's PrepHole for fuck sake. What do you expect from the denizens of mongolian horse milking forum.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Probably because the PLA is more focused around being a regional power,
            No, the PLA ground force just don't consider tank that important. The core of PLA ground forces is artillery, the rest is to support that.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Makes 0 sense unless you are making shit up.
            NCD post Ukraine invasion loves making up bizarre, easily disproven lies about the Chinese military which spread to PrepHole.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              as opposed to the PLA itself which is an accurate source of their own capabilities?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                At least don't make shit up that can be easily disproven

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                VT-5 light tank (export Type 15) tested by Bangladesh.
                At circa 0:40 you see the stabilization working.
                Any other dumb claims I need to disprove?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Unmanned turret, two man crew (three man might be better for infoproc, but the space is better) seems like a good idea

      tonk on Tonk side shots, what is this 1991 lmao? Pretty hopeless against top attack EFP ie the main tank killer in this day and age. Trophy is easily overwhelmed by multishot. Mech cucks deserve to eat molten metal

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        2 man seems like a fucking awful idea. No situational awareness, no redundancy, no ability to do meaningful field repairs. Fixing a slipped track with 2 manlet chinks sounds like a special kind of hell.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Moar CGs

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Some sources say the ETC gun could be a 105mm caliber and it would have similiar power compared to the 125mm due to much higher velocities, but this is still unknown how much of it is true.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like they're forgetting something important. The newest Western tanks do not neglect the usefulness of having a parasite craft/drone to launch for recon or other such purposes.
    It feels like such an obvious advantage to have, but maybe they think they'll launch the drones from elsewhere, but that would force the tank to be used more rigidly in lockstep with their other units.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it’s really odd considering, for the past 10 years China has shirked soviet weapons design cues and started unapologetically implementing NATO/WESTERN style weapons for everything from their rifle to their aircraft.
      Now suddenly this leaked next gen MBT goes back to China using Slavic over western design philosophies. Maybe it’s weapons system is limited in range negating the need of a spotter drone?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldnt be worried about the onboard UAV, since in the 2022 airshow they have shown exactly that as an upgrade package for their older tank models.
      I'm more concerned about the seeming fact that the new tank is based on a modified light-tank chassis, albeit with thick MBT-class glacis to protect the crew there, but other than that, completely reliant on active means of defense.

      China really wants a "high-speed low drag" kind of tank-force, while the rest of the world is going heavier again in anticipation of a great power conflict.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe the intent is just to produce a ton of tanks so they can have lots of guns. It's kind of like the "chinese missile spam" strategy. They may not be able to win in quality but if they just saturate with enough guns to win, they think they'll be fine.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        In a great power conflict the main killer of tanks are going to be laser guided artillery and DCIPM shells, only those who survive have the privilege to be knocked to by NLOS ATGMs, both of them have longer range than any MBTs APFSDS rounds

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, I feel like you could do that with just a modular launch canister that you bolt on as needed.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Aktshually Chieftain thinks that having an onboard drone (or any extraneous capability not integral to a tank's main role) is basically wasted space which could be better utilized for ammunition storage, more armor or weight savings, and that UAVs are better off handled by dedicated operator in a separate unit and not by the already overworked tank crew

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I think a couple of tethered drones could act as an improved commanders periscope and could allow the commander to see over cover and things like that. I think the chieftain was concerned about drones needing an operator but if the drones just automatically hover they dont need an operator just an observer

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like this is a waste of space and the turret space should be used for more ammo instead. Rheinmetall itself even offers unmanned ground vehicles that can follow the KF51 and launch loitering ammunitions.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Finally, the true a next generation tank.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >(detonates before round hits by radio frequency trigger, useful vs kinetic rounds)
    I don't think you know what KE is

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Heavy APFSDS rod-breaking ERA do exactly that; breaking the rods by cutting them apart mid-air via multiple shaped charges.
      The difference here is just that the ERA can "sense" the incoming round and doesnt need to get punctured to go off.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Implessive!

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Crew view, I guess these are old simulators and the current version might have AR/VR google support.

    I still dont like 2 man crews. At the very least there should be a 3rd guy as commander/drone operator.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      3rd guy may be a bit better but it's also 50% more crew space. Might be a good tradeoff. That new Korean/Polish tank is also supposed to have 2 man crew.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >CONFIRMED FROM THIS CGI STILL IMAGE
    end yourself gay

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >ETC Main Cannon of unknown caliber
    This doesn't inherently mean much. The improvements of ETC are limited, a 120mm ETC gun about equaled that of a 140mm conventional gun at a much higher price. Overall with the lightening of tanks however its doubtful increases in gun performance will be necessary, you will just have 40 ton tanks that can withstand a 50mm autocannon shell to the front sniping each other from 4 kilometers away.

    >Two Man Crew in Chassis
    >No commander
    >Light RWS to engage enemies without turning the entire turret
    >Gunner has to identify his own targets
    LMAO

    >Unmanned Turret
    Fair. General trend of modern tank design.

    >Lightweight, High Mobility
    >Turret APS with 360° coverage (Trophy style)
    Fair enough

    >Active Electromagnetic ERA (detonates before round hits by radio frequency trigger, useful vs kinetic rounds)
    Seems to be of doubtful utility and have a pointlessly high risk of failure.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The two man crew is really strange and either fully retarded and super ambitious, or they have extremely high confidence in their AI and automatization. Wouldnt be surprised if they think that their AI face recognition that they employ in their cities with that tank's FCS.

      Yet again, we cant tell from the hatches how many crew members are inside. The Armata also just has 2 hatches, but 3 crew members.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Even if I did have a two man crew I would just have a commander and driver and have the gun slaved to whatever targets the commander painted. Point to something and move on, with the commander having a potentially wider field of vision and a turret (light 7.62-20mm RWS) able to rotate more quickly than the main turret.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Two crew seems too few for basic tank maintenance tasks

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I suppose this could be fixed to some extent with higher battalion level maintenance or I suppose theoretically shifting maintenance entirely off of the crew and onto dedicated mechanics. Either way I don't trust the Chinese to actually pull either of those off effectively.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, that's not that big an issue, you just increase your company or battalion-level maintenance crews accordingly. When the French went from 4 to 3 crew with the Leclerc, they just added an extra maintenance platoon with a couple trucks at battalion level and put all their old loaders into that.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        What are those things?
        Drones swarm?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Smoke grenades for spoofing javelins and such

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        In Ukraine right now both sides are using DJI drones to spot targets for their tanks and artillery. The eyes of a TC will never match a drone that can operate up to 10km away with thermals and laser designator

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      ETC now has quite a good synergy with hybrid electric drives. If you already have a robust supercapacitor setup in your tank pointing it at the gun isn't so hard. Its also small - weight and size have been critical issues since WWII - the most important issue. This tank will probably be 60 tonnes and on the limit of current realistic weight and size. The 2 man crew is also weight and size issue. The armor capsule could be genuine matched equal own weapon in this case - been a long time since such things were a thing

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >>Two Man Crew in Chassis

    How the fuck are you going to communicate with the section lead, load 50 rnd and re-hook a track with 2 people.

    You can't even separate the command designation function and the gunner sighting with 2 people.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Just have maintenance vehicles behind them?

      Also I'm sure both crew members will have access to cameras and could designate targets. 3rd guy would probably be ideal but you are saving a lot of space with 2 man crew.

      Drone carrier IFVs behind tanks could take care of most hunter killer stuff anyways.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The Strv103 could be operated by 1 crewman
        The tank could be operated competently by 2 crewman (commander and driver-gunner)
        They still put a 3rd crewman (who was the radiooperator-reverse driver

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Every tank video game has one guy doing all the work. Now with shit like AI and drones overhead designating targets for you it's easier than ever.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You designate target and the tank AI does the shooting and stuff..
      Communications is of course fucked.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >unmanned turret
    >two manned crew
    this is just not gonna work
    3 man crew is the bare minimum

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Look up Israel's Carmel experiments and America's pre-FCS prototype tanks. 2 is enough.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    China beats America to 4th gen would be based.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It remains vanishingly unlikely, though. I have zero doubt the Army will [i]scream[/i] for more tank research programs, but we already HAVE an elaborate series of programs for new and more advanced and versatile armored vehicles.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      China has a lot of shit T-72 like tanks they will have to replace if they want something capable of going against western tanks. There is less drive to innovate when you have Abrams.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        They still have a few hundred T-55 clones in service.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Some chang copies an old US concept and throws it on his weibo account
    >Gee I'd better make a thread about this vital development
    fuck off

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >some chong builds something neat
      >burgers say its stupid and impossible
      >its actually something burgers proposed themselves 40 years ago
      every time

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Burgers realize an idea is stupid 40 years ago
        >Chinese just now testing it out and thinking it's the best thing ever

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Sometimes they get it right.
          That high-pressure 40mm grenade sniper cannon they lifted from the Americans should have been something pursued further by China Lake or someone else.
          It punches the operator in the face with each shot but it's still neat and useful.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Its pretty retarded from every level. Large, heavy, huge amounts of recoil, for a slightly better 40mm SAGM (range, and thats it)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        who are you quoting chang

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Someone post the Type 15 with the 30mm cannon, forgot the name.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Tanks should be unmanned - prove me wrong

    Tesla wayfinding and more ammunition for drive bys

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    implessive! china takes another step into world hegemony

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Chinks are using literal ARMA footage as propaganda

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Wouldn't it be better if the chinks modified their existing T99s and T96s with some of these new technologies and then iterate and refine them to work better then incorporating them on an completely new tank chassis?

  20. 1 week ago
    RC-135 Rivet Joint

    I love how everyone just copies 1990 tank concepts from the General Dynamics yard.

    Sorry Chinese supporters but Chinese metallurgy and Chinese computers SUCK

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Chinese metallurgy and Chinese computers SUCK
      Right now, yes you are right. But in the future it will only get better.

      • 1 week ago
        RC-135 Rivet Joint

        and western tech will stagnant? chinee tech will always (at least in our lifetimes) be behind us.

        o

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty sure now that Moore's law is coming to an end and China has a sizable tech industry, there won't be such massive disparities in tech capabilities that have existed since the early 80s.

          Much of the US tech supremacy has been riding on the coattails of the exponential gains in computing in general, that's over.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >ETC Main Cannon
    Interesting, if true (it's not).

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Remember that time china put a house sized "rail gun" on a landing ship that was made out to look like a turret but it never really could rotate? Remember when it never fired and china brought it back to port and dismantled it and called it a success?

    Pepperidge farm remembers.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Remember when it never fired and china brought it back to port and dismantled it and called it a success?
      There was no new on that, stop making shit up

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        https://asiatimes.com/2022/02/chinas-railgun-tech-on-a-surprising-fast-track/

        >In February 2018, China conducted the first successful test-firing of a railgun at sea, using its railgun prototype on the Type 072III Haiyang Shan landing ship testbed. The weapon was reported to have fired a 25-kilogram projectile at a target 250 kilometers away with a projectile velocity of 2,575 meters per second.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't said they dismantled lol. It say it was a success

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Where is the ship, xao?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              You said it was dismantled

              Remember that time china put a house sized "rail gun" on a landing ship that was made out to look like a turret but it never really could rotate? Remember when it never fired and china brought it back to port and dismantled it and called it a success?

              Pepperidge farm remembers.

              where is the link saying it was dismantled retard ?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      that shit was hilarious but china at least is likely capable of making a next gen tank as its much easier to just mismatch known russian designs and whatever western designs some CCP aligned female university student intern can get a hold of via a trade for a blowjob

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    wow vely implessive, it's over for western monkeys

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >CG
    >Confirmed
    unstoppable murderquadcopters confirmed as well

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      tfw the reason shipping containers went up in price is the noble PLA is making millions of these and the world shall tremble

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Oh sweet, what mobile game is this advertisement for?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Armor of God IV

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How man MGs does it have?
    They are much better suited for shooting at its primary adversary - unarmed protestors. The treads could be wider as well to make flattening them more efficient.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Color Revolution glowies deserve everything they got

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        yes, the chinese deserve the best the chinese government can throw at them.
        more dead chinese either way, and its not like they are going to pose a threat to anyone else

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Why MGs and not fighter-jets?
      According to Biden, you use fighter jets to kill your own people during protests, not machine guns.

      also
      >believing in glowmoron claims long disproven by wikileaks

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        of course you didnt even read the shit you a referencing you absolute moron
        >ALTHOUGH THEIR ACCOUNT GENERALLY FOLLOWS THOSE
        PREVIOUSLY REPORTED[...]

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Bro, it never happened like ZOG media wants you to think it happened.

          Jan 6th police shooting-deaths are more unjustified than what happened on June 6th

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            again read the fucking wikileaks shit you are refering too moron
            >ALTHOUGH HE DID NOT ACTUALLY WITNESS ANY LARGE SCALE SHOOTINGS ON THE SQUARE PROPER, GALLO SAW MANY CASUALTIES BROUGHT INTO THE SQUARE AND DID
            NOT DOUBT THAT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN BEIJING WERE KILLED BY THE ARMY ON JUNE 3 AND 4

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah not surprising if the "protesters" were blocking the roads to the square and hanging the charred corpses of the 1st wave of unarmed soldiers on those barricades and bridges.

              As said, Jan 6 deaths were more unjustified than June 6th.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                you went from
                >never happened
                to
                >they deserved it
                real fucking fast lmao
                >the tank crews actually crushed this protestor on a bike in selfdefense!

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >1/5th the weight of a mk1
    >1/4th the crew
    >1 cannon or mg vs 5 guns
    Shaving off one crew member in a modern vehicle is not going to make a huge difference in production.

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Their population decline just kicked in, fifteen years earlier than projected
    Tick tock chang

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Wow you mean China will have less than 1.5B people soon? Like, 1.49B people? Gosh, this will ruin their total draftable population and rekt their supply of workers for their weapon factories!

      Meanwhile
      Ukraine Strong! Taiwan Strong!
      17,8M people will flood out all invaders with their bravery!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        holy fuck wumao gets asshurt fast on this board

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          prove me wrong, NAFObot.

          40M orginal population, 17M already fled and become whores sucking cocks in Poland and Germany and the rest being drafted to war and being ground down into paste in Donbass and their earlier human wave assaults vs Kherson, are now left with some 3M total draftable population for the 9th wave of mobilization. And somehow you fucks claim that this will ensure their victory vs Russia.

          At the same time, China's population will decline at the current trends from 1.5B to around 1 billion by the end of this century (which is still many times more than your cuckraine) and you are already declaring the end of the Chinese menace.

          But logical thinking isnt you guy's strong suit anyway.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            meds

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Like 0 bugs left. True 0 of slant posting.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        prove me wrong, NAFObot.

        40M orginal population, 17M already fled and become whores sucking cocks in Poland and Germany and the rest being drafted to war and being ground down into paste in Donbass and their earlier human wave assaults vs Kherson, are now left with some 3M total draftable population for the 9th wave of mobilization. And somehow you fucks claim that this will ensure their victory vs Russia.

        At the same time, China's population will decline at the current trends from 1.5B to around 1 billion by the end of this century (which is still many times more than your cuckraine) and you are already declaring the end of the Chinese menace.

        But logical thinking isnt you guy's strong suit anyway.

        Best shit is that the same CCP that enforced One Child Policy through oppressive means could just as well enforce 10 child policy through the same means. Political power grows out from the barrel of a gun after all.

        Yeah, shit's a non-issue for an authoritarian state.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The only dictator I can think of in history that ever actually attempted this was Ceausescu and according to the Romanian census it worked for like two years then somehow fertility got even worse

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Communist Romania maintained an above replacement fertility until its collapse, so it worked by the main metric, same thing for the USSR which maintained 2+ fertility until it lifted the natalist policies.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >it worked

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                what happened in the 1990s, anon?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Something that had very little to do with that line spanning 1969 to 1989 you fuckin' idiot

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It indeed did stabilize the birthrates above replacement

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    thats cgi anon

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's ugly. Aesthetics are L I T E R A L L Y the only thing that matters when it comes to tanks.

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    seems like another light tank, maybe even lighter than the Type 15?

    seems like they envision fighting the poos in the next few years

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