The navies of China and Thailand are holding a joint exercise closely following joint drills by the armies and air forces of the two countries. The China–Thailand Blue Strike 2023 joint naval training exercise is scheduled to be held from Sunday to September 10 in the upper Gulf of Thailand and a marine camp in Sattahip, the Bangkok Post reported on Saturday.
The training aims to enhance practical cooperation between the two navies and strengthen their capabilities of jointly addressing regional security threats, said the source. Both sides will conduct land and sea training and practise sniping tactics, jungle survival and maritime search and rescue, as well as cross-deck helicopter landings. There will also be learning sessions about chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear defence.
It marks the fifth edition of the Blue Strike bilateral naval exercises held since 2010.
Chinese forces participating in the exercise, including the Type 071 comprehensive landing ship Simingshan, the Type 054A guided missile frigate Anyang, the Type 903A comprehensive replenishment ship Chaohu, a Marine Corps unit and a vessel-borne helicopter unit, arrived at the Port of Sattahip in Thailand on Thursday, the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) East Sea Fleet said in a press release that same day.
A Chinese Type 039 conventional attack submarine also arrived in Sattahip, according to Thai media reports. Shortly before the joint exercise, Thai navy chief Admiral Choengchai Chomchoengpaet said on Friday that he had approved the use of the Chinese-made CHD620 engine as a substitute for a German-made engine for the S26T Yuan-class submarine that Thailand is purchasing from China. The S26T is developed based on the Type 039.
Thailand is a user of many Chinese defence products, including a Type 071 comprehensive landing ship, VN16 amphibious armored vehicles, VN1 wheeled armored vehicles, FK-3 missile systems, and VT4 main battle tanks.
> https://globaltimes.cn/page/202309/1297487.shtml
> https://bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2640113/navy-ready-to-hold-annual-china-drill
Thailand and China are holding three joint military exercises involving their air forces, armies and navies from July to September 2023.
From July 9 to 21, an annual joint air combat exercise FALCON STRIKE 2023 is intended to strengthen cooperation between the Thai and Chinese air forces to uphold regional peace and stability. The exercise was first held in 2015 and then in 2017, 2018 and 2019 before a break due to the Covid-19 outbreak.
Thai aircraft taking part in the 2023 exercise include the Gripen 39 C/D, Alpha Jets and Saab 340 AEW fighters. China has sent J-10C/S, JH-7 A/AII, J-11B/S and KJ-500 fighters.
From August 16 to September 2, special warfare units of the Thai and Chinese armies will take part in the JOINT STRIKE 2023 exercise in Lop Buri province.
From September 3 to 10, a joint exercise involving both navies, BLUE STRIKE 2023 will take place in Chon Buri, Rayong and Chanthaburi provinces in the East. The exercise is held every two years, with the two countries taking turns as a host.
> https://bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2612821/thailand-china-holding-3-joint-military-exercises
> https://thepattayanews.com/2023/07/20/thailand-and-china-conduct-joint-military-exercises/
Why does china always get btfo by india and the mongols? and also vietname? is there any reason?
>Why does china always get btfo by india and the mongols? and also vietname? is there any reason?
Mongolia is irrelevant in present-day politics and is pretty subservient to China due to geographic factors alone. Vietnam is too afraid of and overpowered by China to do anything tangible, especially since the rest of ASEAN are either vassals of or apathetic towards China.
So the only conflict we've seen in the past decade or two has been between India and China, but India really hasn't shown anything impressive yet and has been inept or counter-productive when it comes to China establishing itself in Nepal, Sri Lanka and Myanmar.
>Thailand and China:
>Falcon Strike 2023 air force exercise
>Joint Strike 2023 army exercise
>Blue Strike 2023 navy exercise
Meanwhile in the US:
Screen Actors and Writers Strike 2023
pipe down chang or we'll send mitch mcconnell on a taiwan trip this year
To wag his finger? China is sooo scared.
>gets btfo by an octogenarian
Go solve your overeducation and underemployment crisis Zhang
>Go solve your overeducation and underemployment crisis Zhang
Can burgers find Thailand on a map?
haha they memory holed Pelosi’s visit already
Pelosi went to Taiwan, not Thailand brain-let
Its cool there doing amphibious operations near Beijing. With all the water they flooded those cities with you can probably test submarines without the US knowing. Truly wise and clever from the Chinese.
>If a war breaks out, our government, don't worry. I won't let any of the real enemies get away. If you give out guns, I won't let any of the real enemies get away
Gulf of Thailand is nowhere near Beijing. It's on the other end of the South China Sea.
imagine doing this and thinking the US would sell you the F-35
>US wont sell F-35s to you but did to neutral Singapore and Switzerland
>Germany wont approve submarine engines for your new zhang subs
Lmao
Germany's been selling engines to power Chinese submarines and warships up until 2021, in spite of an EU arms embargo enacted following the 1989 Tienanmen Square Massacre, and only stopped in 2022.
Why are German sub engines better than Chinese?
I understand China not having top-notch jet fighter engines because those are staggeringly complex to nail down correctly, but...even the sub engines?
Seriously?
>I understand China not having top-notch jet fighter engines because those are staggeringly complex to nail down correctly, but...even the sub engines?
What makes you think submarine engines are any different?
Quiet machinery, period, requires extremely tight fitting(nearly perfect and seamless) tolerances. They're Chinese. You do the math.
To be fair, the problem the chinks are facing on the jet engine front is related to the manufacturing technique that produces the engine blades, most notably single crystal stuff IIRC. That's a much harder problem then simply getting your tolerances down as far as possible. Diesel engines are a much less challenging engineering problem since they're much better understood with the massive commercial field around them.
There are no quiet diesels powering submarines.
Isn't the US selling F-35s to Israel, and Israel is buying them using US aid money?
So why not, the F-35 is already going to be compromised.
>So why not, the F-35 is already going to be compromised.
With Intel/Microsoft with their largest R&D/Production plants in the Levant, the legacy of fake Right of Returners thanks to the Jackson-Vanik Amendment = a gigantic Russian 5th column already probably sending sensitive hard & software to Moscw & Beijing. Routinely crops up in Israeli press, wonder why. Point being: Moscow & Beijing are technological cargo cults that cannot develop sub-10nm chip capacity much less maintain TSMC if they ever took it in situ-- reduces the reverse engineering problem considrably when the enemy may as well be stone age retards.
Do you realize that a lot of military hardware use older and large semiconducter nodes right optimized for reliability, endurance and radiation hardening right?
The F-35 entered production on 2006, that means the oldest F-35s in service are running on 65 nm chips or larger, the later blocks might be running more modern chip nodes, but I doubt it, it would be easier to just work with the existing chips with but with bigger memory bandwidth and buses.
b-but my iphone is 7nm wtf
The smallest semiconductor node found in the F-35s is going to be the PowerPC processors in them. Short of the latest blocks, they should be G4 PowerPCs running at far, far below 1ghz. Those should be well above 100nm for the process size. The F-22 has absolutely ancient, late 80s era CPUs in comparison to the young and spry mid-2000s tech found in the earliest F-35 blocks.
Of course the code written for the avionics is as optimized if not more optimized than the kind of coding that the madlad programmers that wrote what were bleeding edge games for 4th and 5th gen console and every single computational cycle is optimally used.
This has been the case for most milware since forever, in comparison to the bloat of consumerware like Windows 11.
Not exactly. The united states gives Israel a voucher that says 'You can have this much money' but only if you spend it on American weapon systems, meaning that the money is then immediately injected back into the American economy. It's essentially a stimulus package for defense contractors with Israel as a middleman who ends up with weapons.
It’s not injecting anything you fucking retard. if they are “buying” the shit we make with money we GAVE them then it’s just us giving away free materials and labor not “injecting” anything into the economy you fucking dipshit retard monkey moron
Exactly. It might be stimulating the economy but it's not an injection, and a far better form of stimulation would be to improve domestic infrastructure such as improving bridges and expanding public transport and high-speed trains.
If thats the case then why doesnt the US govt just cut a check straight to the defense contractors?
Prevents greedy garden gnomea from skimming off the top as well as our tech from being resold to our enemies
Because contractors are literally seperated from the government. You have little control over what they do, which is why the government promote competition between defense contractors to see who makes the best shit.
>which is why the government promote competition between defense contractors to see who makes the best shit.
Letting defense companies buy out other defense companies to where there's an ever smaller pool of large defense companies isn't promoting competition.
Because it's dubiously ethical business at best, and they need a sly cover up. Also they want to drive the costs through the roof as much as possible so everyone involved profits more.
Israel does a lot of field testing of weapons, which is useful for USA. For example Israelis are often the first to test American planes against Russian air defense and develop and refine new tactics. Examples: During the Yom Kippur War their air force got wrecked by Egyptian SAMs. Some years later they had adapted and completely demolished a similar network set up by Syria in Lebanon.
>Examples: During the Yom Kippur War their air force got wrecked by Egyptian SAMs.
That was in the 1970s. Here's something else Israel did in the 1990s, which is hand over technology from the F-16 to China.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/meet-j-10-%E2%80%9Cvigorous-dragon%E2%80%9D-fighter-jet-chinas-own-f-16-thanks-israel-52502
Based on that article, Israel didnt help with developing composites, or radar, or the engines, and China had to make a crappy chink cope knockoff of an F16. So what's your point.
>So what's your point.
Why the fuck is it okay for Israel to share F-16 tech to China at all? And this isn't an isolated example. There's been tons of technology, including classified US technology, that China has gotten from Israel ever since.
garden gnomes are self destructing schizos, I honestly have no idea what they hope to accomplish with this since the Chinese will not allow them to survive either.
LMAO
>okay, we gave your technology to China. So what? It's not like it was ours anyway.
Chinkapore and Gulf oil barons train with China too.
U.S/Vietnam naval exercises in the Gulf of Tonkin soon
>Thai navy chief Admiral Choengchai Chomchoengpaet said on Friday that he had approved the use of the Chinese-made CHD620 engine as a substitute for a German-made engine for the S26T Yuan-class submarine that Thailand is purchasing from China
Subs I don't want to be on for 100 dollars, Alex.
Why are Thais in bed with China? They don't even share borders. Or maybe that's why...
Laos shares a border with China too, but Laos and Cambodia have both become Chinese vassals. Cambodia has a Chinese naval port and it's also located in the Gulf of Thailand.
If a serious war breaks out in the South China Sea it's not just going to be from one direction. China will have a naval force attacking from the south, albeit it will be much smaller than the northern force.
The SEA meta is playing off both superpowers with one another, not sucking up to just one.
Otherwise, you'd end up like South Vietnam (defunct) or the Philippines (an utter failure).
Both South Vietnam (crazy Catholic) and Phillipines (absolute corrupt and incompetent) are fault of their own. Malaysia and Singapore are fine.
Malaysia and Singapore don't suck up to either superpower, that's why they're successful.
you think so? moron chink
Malaysia and Singapore are under the thrall of the Australian Menace
>both superpowers
There's just one
Look up the ethnicity of their elites. For example, their prime minister.
I don't like it. I think we're currently leaning too much towards China.
Reminder to seething chinks and mutts that expecting thailand to do jack shit to help either of you is retarded.
Its not going to do more than lip service to mutts and its debt is too low for chinks to debt trap it like laos
Aside from Japan and in some contexts the Philippines and maybe South Korea, nobody else in the region is going to fighting in a war with China. However, what the US should be doing and has failed to do is reduce China's influence in ASEAN by way of China's military co-operations and strategic partnerships, and that includes the billions they make from selling weapons.
The US has not put pressure on Thailand, Cambodia or Malaysia at all nor stifled Myanmar. China is actually planning a 6-nation military drill with Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam soon.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202305/1291521.shtml
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-southeastasia-drills-05302023030254.html
The question you should be asking, is what has the US done to earn SE Asian countries trust and support? For example, despite the fact that Malaysia is a larger and more strategically important country when it comes to countering the PRC in the South China Sea, the US has chosen to favor Singapore diplomatically and arm it with latest equipment like F-35 and HIMARS. While Malaysia's armed forces facing budgetary constraints. Yet US only provides token assistance to Malaysia such as donating maritime surveillance radar and MPAs. Just because Malaysia in the past adopted a principled neutral stance and refuse to support illegal US war in Iraq, Israeli occupation of Palestine and condemn Russian war in Ukraine.
Contrary to what people say, Malaysia bought russian and american aircraft out of necessity, not simply because of shit and giggles. For years malaysia had been denied access to more modern aircraft because the US is playing favorites with singapore, philippines and thailand. At one point they just said "fuck this" and went to the russian instead. America putting both Indonesia and Pakistan under military sanction really spooked Malaysian decisionmaker hence why they're willing to buy russian made equipment which is generally cheaper and russia is willing to accept almost anything as payment. Til now American suffering loses because Malaysian opened the market gate for Russian and European arms sales on SE Asia and destroying the American arms sales monopoly.
Ironically, Singapore are nothing but a Chinese bitch. Just another Chinese province. Don't agree? Just look at who in charge of Singapore Armed Forces.
Thailand has no beef with either America or China
Too far away and irrelevant in the South China Sea so they have no natural disputes with China
Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam shield them geographically from China
Thailand doesn't mouth off death to America and they were never gommies so they aren't in Uncle Sam's gunsights
Southeast Asia has proved time and time again that sucking up to America and the West has given them nothing while sucking up to China exclusively will lead to failed state status like Burma, Laos and Cambodia
Losing to Vietnam and their former colony being dogshit doesn't help either
Is this supposed to be a response for Australian exercises with various SEA cuntries?
That was Indonesian exercise to which Australian, Japan, France and US was invited. Not a fucking Australian exercise
how do these third world exercises work?
there is a huge disparity between equipment and training since indonesia is a third world country training with nato+japan, is this just a pr exercise for the indonesian government?
i always wondered how regular grunts and the officers involved in multilateral/bilateral exercises think about training with low-tier, lesser or poorly equipped militaries
Finally the end of American global hegemony. The yankee navy will make an excellent reef, a good donation to marine life to help counteract the horrific damage America has done to our planet