China launches next gen Type 54B frigate

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/this-is-chinas-new-type-054b-frigate-could-become-backbone-of-navy

Gotta admit, what a looker.

Expect it to have a 60 ship run in the next few years, with 4 to 6 ships per year launched.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Single hangar is a letdown tho... But I guess China is transitioning to using ASW drones so that's not too much of a ln issue.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Transitioning from what? Throwing conscripts via catapults? Good luck trying to use drones against direct energy CIWS retard.

    • 4 weeks ago
      äää

      >Gotta admit, what a looker.
      looks substantially worse than just copypasting FREMM. wasted opportunity.

      >Expect it to have a 60 ship run in the next few years, with 4 to 6 ships per year launched.
      idk. it took from 2006 til now to get from type 054A to this, and the ambitions look dramatically scaled back following covid economic implosion. the 054B could very well end up being a zombie-class built in lower numbers.

      the flimsiness of that hangar door is unsettling. it looks like something i'd expect from a civilian vessel, not a warship.

      Does the same poster make these threads?

      think this is the ship autist OP, not the one who spams the wolf warrior garbage.

      Did they ever improve damage control?

      >ever
      since when, a couple months ago when the first western journo access was granted? yeah anon they definitely built an entirely new fleet since hen.

      rattling off talking points without understanding them is for dipshits. don't be a dipshit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Invisible /s
        Don't worry they'll fill those ships with their disposable bugmen soldiers en-mass with their declining population and in a single stroke end the Burkes with a swarm of their surface combatants and hypersanics. They totally won't burn to a crisp from a single LRASM hitting one of the vessels in formation.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Next gen
    Lmao not a fucking chance
    >Looker
    Yeah, looks like it has no compartmentalization and will therefore be sunk with gunfire, let alone missiles. How many times do you need to try human wave tactics and get btfo before it sinks in?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'd prefer us to vastly overestimate its abilities. That's how we got the 15.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If we worked in the Pentagon, sure, but we live out here in reality where China is a weak moron that can't stop an old witch landing on an island.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >picrel
      What the fuck is this cuck shit?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        just another day in asia

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The topmast X-band rotating Aesa was expected, but the gun is new. Apparently it's a totally new 100mm gun not based on the previous Russian AK-176 or the even earlier french 100mm, but a newly developed piece capable of firing hypervelocity ammo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Rear CIWS is replaced with a 24 rounds HQ-10, as expected.

      So many Type 055 features here tho, like the low RCS decoy launchers or the ESM mast.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also, VDS Arrangements like all other renew Chinese ships.

        With those, all Chinese warships of the 2010s era have VDS and TASS. China is taking American subs seriously.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          054A vs B

          Old vs new workhorse FFG

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >China is taking American subs seriously.
          Theyre still going to die to them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      China doesn’t have working AESA (they’ve never fielded a test which can be verified).

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what a looker
    Looks like a trough tbqh

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    please keep spending money on these while property drops 50%

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks kind of bland, RCS reduction on ships results in this sort of flat feeling

    A good part of ships is internals which we can't see. Its hard to judge on that basis how the ship will perform.
    We can see what is presumably the main AESA RADAR on the foward mast, which appears to be able to rotate or perhaps spin, I'm not nerdy enough to comment on advantages/disadvantages on having an AESA spin. The size is interesting, its small. US SPY RADARs are much larger, which points to little focus on the sensor. My guess is that missile defence is not a priority for this vessel and will rely on other units to do that, instead using Active standoff weapons to do hit and run attacks in a peer-peer war, otherwise its probably enough for coastal patrol and bullying Vietnamese fishing boats. There is likely more sensors concealed, perhaps an intergrated mast is in use but we can't see shit.

    What can't be judged of a ship is crew skill, their readiness and training quality, doctrine and maintenance practices. Recent Eastern European adventurers have proved that you can have all the bling in the world, but if its built on a rotten core, it will flake under stress. And knowing China, there is probably the bare minimum here to do the job as required with the rest ebing skimmed for personal profit by every level. The only way to determine quite how good this ship is and the PLAN more generally is to put it to the test in war.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AESA isn’t alien tech it’s pretty mature. China is the world leader in supplying the needed rare earth components so I don’t see the problem. I’m sure they’re way behind on the software side but that’s a different subject.

    Anyway what’s the deal on the 054? I thought this was an older design that got updated with new / emerging tech a decade or so ago (longer?). How is the 054B different?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's the same hull essentially, but updated with new sensors and weapons.

      Most important upgrade is the IEPS.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rare earth metals aren't rare and aren't the bottleneck/expensive part of fielding an AESA radar.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have never seen an image of a nice day in China

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally typhoon season in Shanghai

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When does eternal overcast and smog season end?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Bros smog doesn't look like this.

          See New York the past few weeks to see how smog usually looks like

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Here ya go stupid

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      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >white expat
        >chink wife
        >USA FAR BEHIND CHINA BEST
        Impressive.

        With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Chinese quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >LE CHINA GREATEST INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE WORLD USA WAS SHOCKED video
        >99% of comments are fake accounts that only exist to give epic upboats to this shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lmfao what is this, the CCP's pathetic answer to Serpentza?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The main value of a rotating radar is 360 degree coverage. The traditional setup is a rotating radar doing air search and a directional radar doing targeting. AESA can combine both functions at the same time. However, AESAs are generally static so that they can maintain a high resolution beam on target. They can use beam-forming tech magic to statically scan a given volume of space without having to move the array — BUT it won’t be 360 coverage. There be dead zones. With a rotating array it can scan all around, and I ASSUME it can stop in case the operator wants to beam-sweep a certain sector or get a high-resolution lock on contacts. Having an array facing in every direction is optimal but for something like the 054B that might be overkill while this setup gives it a useful and modern radar solution. The 055s and 052Ds will be doing the heavy AD lifting for fleet protection.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maintenance is going to kick them in the ass eventually.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have images of PLAN bridges or any operational spaces?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is the lower one for officers or ratings?

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did they ever improve damage control?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does the same poster make these threads?

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