China Global Superpower

Is Taiwan so important, that if China annexed it, it would stand a realistic chance of becoming a global superpower like the US, potentially even taking over the US, over the course of several decades?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is Taiwan so important,
    It's not, its just ameriisraelite fearmongering.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't they gain access to major semiconductor fabs, allowing them to develop way more advanced military technology and build state of the art supercomputers?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They already have all that

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've heard from a couple sources that they don't have the most advanced semiconductor fabs, and that getting the ones in Taiwan would give them a massive boost. Getting a hold of Taiwan would give China a really massive economic boost, that would indirectly give them a massive militaristic boost.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even if you assume that's accurate which ignores that most of the R&D doesn't happen in Taiwan it ignores that taking Taiwan doesn't really do anything for China's major demographics issues.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Actually looking at Taiwan's demographics it's unlikely Taiwan would be that relevant in a decade anyway, seriously they are barely crossing 10k births per month.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those sub 7 nanometer chip is made by like 10,000 companies around the world. If one of those companies do not cooperate, then there's no chip. TSMC is only one of those companies and I doubt all those 9,999 companies will cooperate with China if they invade Taiwan.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They already have all that

        It's not. If china had chances on becoming superpower, they could do it without Taiwan too.
        They would just drag down Taiwan on their level of shittiness if they ever managed to take it over.

        Even if you assume that's accurate which ignores that most of the R&D doesn't happen in Taiwan it ignores that taking Taiwan doesn't really do anything for China's major demographics issues.

        Actually looking at Taiwan's demographics it's unlikely Taiwan would be that relevant in a decade anyway, seriously they are barely crossing 10k births per month.

        They want Taiwan for the same reason they've wanted it since 1949; to break the 1st island chain containment and to be able to thrust nuclear missile subs straight into the Pacific ocean undetected - achieving MAD and strategic parity with the US.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they'd have to stop using moronic loud diesel subs first

          among other things that make this chang fantasy laughable even if they did somehow capture taiwan, of course

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          in what way do they not have "MAD Parity"??? lmao moron

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >doesnt have stealth subs
            >has too few icbms to cripple america even if they could somehow get most of them past american defense systems
            >has no first strike capability, or even plan
            >has no natural defenses
            >not self sufficient in food
            >not self sufficient in energy
            implessive

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>has too few icbms to cripple america even if they could somehow get most of them past american defense systems
              They're working on this. Their plan is to achieve nuclear parity by some time in the 2030s. I forgot the exact year.
              >if they could somehow get most of them past american defense systems
              They, along with Russia, have more advanced hypersonic missile technology than the US and the West. This was a strong focus for the two nations, since nukes essentially ensure their existence.
              >has no first strike capability, or even plan
              They do. Getting Taiwan would help them out immensely when they do get nuclear stealth submarines.
              >not self sufficient in food
              >not self sufficient in energy
              In War, they could rely on Russia and their allies. Since both would instantly become outcasts, they would begin helping each other out significantly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not even going to bother responding to each of these individually, I thought you were a chang but now I realize you're just moronic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They get their oil mostly from the Persian gulf. Do you expect me to believe that China could protect all those oil ships all the way from there?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They'd get their oil from Russia. It would bolster Russia's economy. They would both be enemies of the West by that point, so it wouldn't matter to China.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And how would Russia send their oil to China then?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Via their shared BORDER.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, look at the image I posted earlier.

                https://i.imgur.com/8LLOK1t.jpeg

                They get their oil mostly from the Persian gulf. Do you expect me to believe that China could protect all those oil ships all the way from there?

                Look at "Russia and FSU". You think Russia could make up the difference when all of China's sea lane will inevitably blockaded?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those fabs will be blown up the moment a Chinese soldier sets foot on Taiwan.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I doubt it. Those Taiwanese businessmen who own the fabs or would come into ownership of them don't want those babies hurt, and by 2027, those fabs will collectively likely be worth over a trillion dollars.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you assume it will be a taiwanese decision, and not american-japanese-korean

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >and not american-japanese-korean
              It's literally on Taiwanese land, and it would be impossible to compensate the Taiwanese businessmen who would be negatively effected. Also, there's no way they'd destroy all the intelligence involved with those fabs as well. China would gain tons of intelligence from annexing Taiwan.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                compensate? if taiwan is about to fall do you think the US would give a shit about some businessmen? those guys are losing their investment either way

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not. If china had chances on becoming superpower, they could do it without Taiwan too.
    They would just drag down Taiwan on their level of shittiness if they ever managed to take it over.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is why they desperately want a canal in Thailand.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't know that. Thanks, anon. That would be a based project.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm moronic.

        https://i.imgur.com/8LLOK1t.jpeg

        They get their oil mostly from the Persian gulf. Do you expect me to believe that China could protect all those oil ships all the way from there?

        is why they want a canal in Thailand. The PRC is increasing their presence in the Gulf of Thailand.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >canal
          Wouldn't help that much in a war since it's a choke point. It makes slightly better sense from an economic standpoint in that it cuts a few days sailing off the trip each way.

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