>Century is importing MKE G3's

>Century is importing MKE G3's

These are going to sweet.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >made in turkey
    >not made in turkiye
    Smh.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >buying janky amerijunk over a rifle from a licensed H.K military factory

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >made in turkey
    >cost more than a PTR/CETME
    Yeah no thanks, maybe if they’d sell some of those piston driven rifles or uppers I might consider it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/qKQ3bRh.jpg

      >Century is importing MKE G3's

      These are going to sweet.

      One thing I do like about the turkish clones is the triggers housing pin. I know it still has the auto block in the rear and on the lower part of the receiver but the extra pin looks more closer to the original

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >more closer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do dumbshit noguns associate this one incident with the gun or country? The fucking dipshit had a squib and shot another bullet into it. It could have happened to any gun.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not wearing safety glasses
      100% on him. Dumbfuck

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >your striker assembly is actually SUPPOSED to launch out of the back of your slide at mach 5, chud!
        Turkroach cope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the mke ones will have chf barrells and the finish that's closer to hk. i'm hype

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i enjoy my tisas 1911

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Turkroach 1911
        >Leather IWB holster
        >Mags loaded entirely with FMJ

        The poorfag trifecta

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          .45 ball is all you need.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        tisas 1911s are the only cheap turk guns ive ever heard good things about
        they arent even spectacular, they just dont blow up
        i had to sand down a couple of bits on my tisas for it to cycle smoothly because they left tiny metal burrs on some of the edges but it was easy enough to fix

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          dude I think something's wrong with your garloid

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cool picture

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you talking about their G3 replacement?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I really want to try their 416 knockoff even though it'll probably be as boring as my other ars

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol ignorant imbecile, you have surface level knowledge barely better than an animal. Mke is literally built on hk machines that are higher quality than anything ptr managed to scrape up, so are their products. Read more dipshit, or if you dont care then just admit you dont know jack shit and keep your fucking mouth shut before you embarass yourself in real life too

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They can make guns on machinery made by God himself. Wouldn't matter. They're still subhuman animals who'll completely disregard any quality control and pump out garbage guns for people like you to blindly shill.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          source: your gaping asshole

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          MKE is known to produce quality guns. Their MP5 repro is more of an MP5 than the garbage SP series that HK produced. Dollars to donuts you've never held an MKE gun.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >MKE is known to produce quality guns
            Hahahahahaha
            >Their MP5 repro is more of an MP5 than the garbage SP series that HK produced
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you knew what you were talking about this conversation might have some credence. You don't and it doesn't. You have probably never fired either, held either, much less inspected the internals of either. You don't have to like turks to tell the truth about MKE products. I'd be surprised if own a single firearm tbqh.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              On the turkish guns you basically grind off 2 auto component blocks and you literally have a mp5 receiver. The HK sp5 requires the removal of that bottom shelf piece and the redrilling of that lower push pin hole and adding a collar for it to make it back into its original mp5 format.

              The turkish receivers are closer to the original mp5 design

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But shit in quality as this and past threads have shown. I couldn't care less about 2 pins, i want a quality firearm that won't jam. The sp5 albeit overpriced is at least of quality. The MKE are a lottery ranging from unusable to fine. This applies to 90% of turkish guns.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can afford neither and have not handled or used either. Why would anyone care what you think?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >his only argument is make believe fantasies about what another anon might or might have not done
                lol. Sorry, an mke knockoff will never be an mp5.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mke guns have been pretty good so far from both the zenith and century imports

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Zenith dropped MKE precisely because they were shitting up the bed with QC and even attempted to bribe a plaintiff

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >MKE are a lottery ranging from unusable to fine
                Based on what evidence?

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                The MKE clone was widely regarded as a fantastic mid-range clone when it retailed for ~$1700 through Zenith as the Z5RS. The nanosecond it became the Century AP5 it turned into an unreliable shitheap in the eyes of people who never owned an MKE in either iteration. Funny how that works.

                I really do love my PTR and like HK guns a lot but I fucking hate the HK fan base. Fuck anyone who sells this and fuck everyone who buys one of these. If the HK guns were some kind of milled, wooden, ultra finished with artists brushes Id feel differently. Even the Bula defense M14s I get because they’re killed and all that, but these things are fucking STAMPED guns with welds you can see from orbit. What is wrong with these people

                It's called the HK Tax for a reason, sadly. With luck the Zenith-made furniture will be both authentic and affordable.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thoughts on the new Zenith guns?

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                Can't comment since I've never even handled one. My MKE is the one and only Zenith product I own and that's an import. I will say they'll have a tough time with their MP5 given the AP5 and PTR undercutting it, they're already offering $500 rebates.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                At <2k its interesting. They give a good boy zog discount that might make it more attractive further. 2.5k was right out when SP5s are ~3. Think they’ll keep dropping prices? I’m curious where they’re sourcing their components too

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                I guess we'll see as time goes on, they invested a lot into being able to make product as opposed to just importing it, I'd think they'd desperately try to stay in the game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe more roach

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate turkshit guns but these ought to be much better than what PTR shits out

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PTR uses HK tooling bought up from portugals FMP facility

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who does the QC? A bunch of dummies in South Carolina that's who. I used to have a PTR and it blew chud dick.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And MKE uses tooling bought from HK, what's your point?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It means jack shit when they throw the whole QC concept out of the window 4 months into production the same way they did with zenith.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Haven’t heard anyone complain about their mp5’s they’ve been making for century. Don’t see why they would suck now. Plus Century is bulk buyer while zenith a small batch boutique, MKE has more incentive to have a good working relationship with century since they are a government owned company specializing mass production.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Read why zenith stopped working with MKE. If anything their quality is more likely to go to shit with century

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Has it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My Century AP5-P is unironically better than my Zenith-imported Z5RS.
                Trigger is way less gritty and doesn't get randomly stuck on the reset like my Zenith has in the past.
                It also doesn't have as much mag wobble as the Zenith.
                Granted, my Zenith was a 2019 import, which was part of the last batch right before their relationship with MKE went to shit.
                A lot of people who are shitting on these things haven't touched either.

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                If they're priced similarly to the PTR91 I'll be interested. I'm really eyeing the HK33 they're supposed to be bringing in, I'm hoping that that will be marked improvement over the legit, full-retard HK53 I inherited that was not exactly pleasant.

                >Trigger is way less gritty
                My impression as well, the AP5's trigger is a lot closer to my current H&K trigger than the factory trigger my Zenith-import came with.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If they're priced similarly to the PTR91 I'll be interested. I'm really eyeing the HK33 they're supposed to be bringing in, I'm hoping that that will be marked improvement over the legit, full-retard HK53 I inherited that was not exactly pleasant.

                >Trigger is way less gritty
                My impression as well, the AP5's trigger is a lot closer to my current H&K trigger than the factory trigger my Zenith-import came with.

                Both my Zenith's have good triggers. Not that I'm particularly picky, but had a fellow MP5 lover feel the trigger and he said they were close to his Bill Springfield job he had done on his. But MKE towards the end really fucked Zenith hard on the guns they sent them, so late productions are a real gamble

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It means jack shit when they throw the whole QC concept out of the window 4 months into production the same way they did with zenith.

                Zenith didn't stop working with MKE. It's MKE that stopped working with them, and Girsan and Tisas followed.

                Zenith was trying to illegally buy the blueprints for the MPT-56 and the MP5 from the MKE manager. While the latter has long had its patents expired, the former was a new gun and they certainly didn't want Zenith getting their hands on it or secretly setting up shot to compete with them.

                The MKE manager ended up being busted and arrested, and that's when all the companies stopped working with Zenith. Don't expect any serious foreign company to chosoe them as their importer, which is why they've been empty-handed ever since.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What? Zenith was the one who NARC'ed on the MKE guy for trying to sell them the TDP for Turkey's new .mil guns. Thats why MKE cut them off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do firearm companies constantly do shady shit like this?
                Anyway, they wouldn't be able to compete with MKE on price or quality even if they got all the manufacturing info.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                What? Zenith was the one who NARC'ed on the MKE guy for trying to sell them the TDP for Turkey's new .mil guns. Thats why MKE cut them off.

                If Zenith was scum and actually bought the TDP they wouldn't be competing with MKE because the guns are not legally allowed to be exported. Hence why MKE was trying to sell it on the downlow.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The guy shitting on Zenith uses a Turkish state-owned tabloid for his source on MKE being good boys and victims of Zenith greet, just so you know. He's done this before

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stop lying, subhuman turkroach

                >https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/12/03/zenith-firearms-cuts-ties-with-mke-new-product-launch-in-2021/amp/

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I checked out Zenith’s website and a US made mp5 at $1950 is intriguing. Glad they got away from the fuckin turks. Has anybody gotten any experience with the product they’re shipping?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PTR are Cetme's, not G3

        • 3 weeks ago
          BigC

          >PTR are Cetme's
          no they aren't

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're neither. They're HK91. Also, if they were CETME, people wouldn't need to mod CETME furniture to get it to fit, but they don't. Out of the box, all G3 stuff fit on PTRs, but not CETMEs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Retard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PTR barrels are button rifled while the MKEs are hammer forged.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          PTR barrels are also unlined. Hope Century offers a 12.5" pistol so I can make a G3KA4 clone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Their problem is QC, like so many other American companies that cut corners.

        I hate turkshit guns but these ought to be much better than what PTR shits out

        I think they're going to put PTR out of business tbh.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PTRs are really more reverse engineered than clones, and I know people like to bring up the fact they got Portugal's old tooling but that didn't last long and was used as a reference for their own. Of all the MP5 offerings they have the worst track record in performance, barring any of Todd Bailey's ventures. This isn't to say you're more likely to get a lemon than not, I know two people with PTRs, one a G3 and one an MP5, and both run perfectly fine.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So did fucking Pakistan yet paki mp5 clone,for all its shit finishing, is still miles better than whatever PTR is barfing out

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          PTR mp5s arent made on hk tooling only the 91s

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I still see threads from people having issues with their newly made PTR91 rifles. Everyone sings PTR's customer service praises but I'd rather own a firearm that doesn't require me to contact them ever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PTR hasn't had that for a long time now.
        Tooling doesn't last forever.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And turkey uses hk tooling they bought from hk and their employees were trained by hk soo..... fuck you read more

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And turkey uses hk tooling they bought from hk and their employees were trained by hk soo..... fuck you read more

        Are t*rks more or less White than moortuguese

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          less

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yet a CETME would cost half of what euros pay for them, I don’t own a G3 yet but I’d rather go with the Spanish rifle instead of a turkish time bomb

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And of course thats one of the most mouth-breathing noguns things you could possible say.
        You think CETME rifles are imported whole and sold as-is? Lmao they're brought over here as parts kits and cobbled together by drunk apes at Century with wildly varying degrees of QC. Century is famous for producing barely functioning rifles out of good parts kits.
        The MKE rifles will be factory built and ready to go, whether you like them or not.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reviews of the AP5 have been pretty stellar, though. Maybe they learned.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All PTR needs to do is nitride their barrels and they'll be "good enough" again. Why companies like PTR and Ruger are unable to use a decent treatments on the barrels is beyond me. PSA can shit out components with nitride treatments on pennies to the dollar, and they can even back it up with a lifetime guarantee.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no 5.56
        I am sad

        >nitride
        Can you explain this to someone like me who barely understands metallurgy?
        How is it different than chrome?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nitride affects the surface of the steel itself, chrome is only a coating

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buying turkroach guns
    Yeah no thanks fampai

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How is Mike making g3s? hes an alcoholic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't know what high functioning addiction is
      NGMI

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MKE actually brought some of the rifles to the States when they were Zenith. The Z43p in particular was very well received, but just didn't sell as well as the MP5s. By the time demand picked up MKEs stopped supplying and all the bad blood between them and Zenith took off.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is putting TURKEY in all caps really necessary? Don't turkshit fags suffer enough already?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Transparent mags too?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >M203-style handguard and grenade launcher
      >on a fucking G3
      >weird transparent mag
      >of course some absurd sight on top, too
      MUH DIK

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's a thermal sight.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>M203-style handguard and grenade launcher
        >>on a fucking G3
        transparent mag

        That's what every Mexican soldier carries.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd love to see these imported and the guys who payed stupid money to hoard them get fucked.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've got them for the hk33 as well.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Turk HK33 mags have some anti aircraft range finding stuff on them

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Will they be importing hk33s?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Given the other replies to this thread I’d say a definite maybe.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I hope so, although I might just reach out to a builder with a flat, I don't trust century for quality

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There’s the CETME Lon the market right now. Seems to be well liked and some models have modern paint jobs and even pic rails.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know they're both HF but are the MKEs or HK G3s chromelined?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was hoping they did the polygonal rifling like on the German G3's

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't remember the G3's being chromelined, but they were cold hammer forged barrels.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >M O R E T U R K S H I T
    shiggy

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Because PTR hasn't used the old Portuguese tooling for a number of years, and like what other anons have pointed out PTRs use button rifled barrels where the MKE guns have CHF barrels.

    It means jack shit when they throw the whole QC concept out of the window 4 months into production the same way they did with zenith.

    I mean given MKE makes the rifles for the Turkish armed forces I don't see why they would. Unless they pull a Kalashnikov Concern and just dump their rejects on the consumer market.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Unless they pull a Kalashnikov Concern and just dump their rejects on the consumer market.
      Ding ding

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >blowback .308
    what the fuck why

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Roller delayed blowback you absolute turbo retard

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >laughs in Spanish

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >noodle arm gay detected

      • 3 weeks ago
        BigC

        i have pretty damn skinny arms and the g3/cetme is my favorite platform
        maybe he's a manlet, they're not short person friendly

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I know a manlet who exclusively shoots a ptr91 and is good with it he is just a bitch lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Try it man.
      The recoil actually makes it even more fun.
      >T. A C308 enjoyer.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This.
        You can still get a C308 for less than a thousand and it's reliable enough a gun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Literally ground on by monkeys to give false headspace measurements
          >Fucking $900 grenade inches from your face

          moron there's poor and there's suicidal, you're beyond the darkest depths of Africa ghetto right now

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But what about HK33s/93s? That said I'm interested in a turkish G3, especially given the praise I've seen given to their MP5 clone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They imported a fair amount of HK33s as Z-43s until MKE and Zenith fell out.
      I'd say there is a very good chance they import more.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vickers said they’re bringing in both, 33s and 33ks

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck me dude I thought I was gonna stop being poor but I guess not

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anybody know the price?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    could this be a source for new collapsing stocks? i'm sick of seeing the $3-400 price on those fucking things

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i cant speak for mke, itd be great if they do.
      i know zenith usa is making a3 stocks so thats something to look forward to. i suspect itll still be $300-400 though

    • 3 weeks ago
      MilSurpDude

      >A3 stocks
      >$3-400
      Hooo boy have I got some news for you m8.
      https://hkparts.net/product/mp5-hk94-a3-f-retractable-rear-stock-german-p168.htm/
      https://hkparts.net/product/german-mp5-hk94-factory-a3-stock-p167.htm/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Typical HKparts prices lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          MilSurpDude

          It's not much better other places tbh, A3 stock prices have been absolutely bonkers for a while now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hkparts
        >ever

        • 3 weeks ago
          MilSurpDude

          They get to price what they want because they're the only ones with any in fucking stock. Check out gatewood to see how their prices were before they went perpetually OOS a year ago. If you go to Gunbroker, you get a POF A3 (lol) for the low, low price of $550.

          A3 stocks at $300-$400 wasn't something to be laughed at, it was something to pounce on. I pity those that didn't.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only reason they have anything in stock is because they fucking buy out everyone else's stock and then resell it on their store for much more. Fucking HK sells springs and shit for like $4 and HKparts buys them and marks it up to $15. Fuck. Look at P30 grip panels, HK wants like $9 and HKparts wants $30!

            So shut the fuck up MSD, you fucking gay.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh and lets not forget the time RTG Parts called them out for doing the same shit to them. Or all the times they sold non-German parts as German or when their website security was shit for years and everyone was getting their credit card info stolen until they FINALLY rebuilt their fucking website. You fucking tripfag bitch.

            • 3 weeks ago
              MilSurpDude

              You're awfully butthurt over me just pointing out a fact, I didn't even defend HKParts and vastly prefer doing deals with RobertRTG and Gatewood.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure I told you to shut the fuck up already.

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                Suck my McShnutz boyo.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Only cocksucker here is you, fripfag.

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                False, there are anons in here, and nothing sucks more dong than an anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What happened here? Out of battery?

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                Yeah, only one I've ever had in 10k+ rounds through my MP5. Since I didn't have an EVO my receiver didn't blow out its side into the atmosphere and I was able to keep on shooting after a couple minutes of ensuring all was okay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are those common with MP5s?

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                Not from what I've seen, and again that's the only one I've had after a lot of shooting with it over three years. It wasn't even with the dogshit Tula I've used most of that time, but brass PPU 124gr. I have no idea what happened or why.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe a just a bit of bad luck and that the faulty round was out of spec.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >1 out of 10k rounds
                >are those common

                Geez anon I don't know, definitely no way you could figure that one out on your own.

                https://i.imgur.com/z4iIw8R.jpg

                Only cocksucker here is you, fripfag.

                Congrats moron your POS Century kit bashed C93 clone doesn't cycle right. It doesn't matter if you have HK mags or not if your gun isn't to spec. Cope n seethe.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Congrats moron your POS Century kit bashed C93 clone doesn't cycle right. It doesn't matter if you have HK mags or not if your gun isn't to spec. Cope n seethe.

                You ARE a dumb motherfucker, lol. This was the first 100 rounds out of a PTR build C93 that cost me a whole $500. Not only did I fix their fuck ups but I added a paddle magazine release and now the gun works just fine. You know, the type of shit that your panzy ass would have to send back to get fixed because you are a moron and cannot into gunsmithing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This was the first 100 rounds out of a PTR build C93

                So yeah, a kit bashed piece of shit. I literally added a paddle mag myself to my JLD PTR91. Cope harder retard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no pics
                >keeps repeating cope
                >claims to own a firearm and doesn't post a pic

                lol fucking noguns these days

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Guns getting chopped and cerakoted right now with a picatinny welded ontop the cocking tube so I can blind retards like you with an IZLID.

                Keep coping.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Keep coping.

                With what? You seem to be sucking tripfag cock. Have at it. He is all yours, fag.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >With what? You seem to be sucking tripfag cock.

                I asked a question and that equates to sucking cock? Touch grass.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So yeah, a kit bashed piece of shit. I literally added a paddle mag myself to my JLD PTR91. Cope harder retard.

                I fail to see a question being asked in this statement. Keep on sucking that dick, bitch.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you a stupid newfag or what.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is baby proud he can add a mag release? Yes he is! Who's a sweet baby? You are! Yes you are! Did you make poopsies? Yes you did! Who's mommy's poopsie woopsie fatty watty? You are! Ah yes you are! FWUBBAWUBBAWOOBYBOOBY! MWUAH! Kisses for mommy's baby! Yes you like that don't you? You like those kissy wissies!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >typing all that shit just to say your a retarded noguns summerfag

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hey how well does your RAS hold zero on the Peq? I am having a picatinny welded on to my cocking tube but also own a RAS so was curious.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally beat a $50 airsoft one against a steel beam and it held zero after 300 more rounds. RAS is so overbuilt the airsoft ones are that good.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bet. I originally bought the G&P clone and it was so well built I almost kept it. But it didn't have the trunnion locking tab the real RAS does so I sold it and bought a KAC one for 300. Was always curious so that's cool to hear.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But it didn't have the trunnion locking tab the real RAS does
                The CMYA does, and it's $58

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                It holds zero perfectly fine, the RAS is so tight that it gauges the receiver paint around the barrel pin.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao “doing deals”, you’re not a finance bro or lawyer, you’re just going on a website and clicking add to cart. You’re not special.

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                Man anons are anally ravaged lately, I wonder what the issue is. Free (you)s regardless so I'm a happy gote.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They mad cuz they poor and the prices just keep going up, up, up…… and the clone market is just going ducking apeshit right now, so much garbage getting churned out by inferior companies competing to see who can sell the cheapest ugliest copies of a legendary pattern to retards who can’t save their money just a bit longer for the real thing. Or get the manager job at target lmfao

                >oh and I paid 1300$ for my pristine A3, I regret nothing, and it rocks

                haha poorfagsstay mad as fukk

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cool AR-15, Anon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >2022 HK
                >The real thing
                Kek. Kind of like barely shoots buying the mr556 and telling people they have a "real 416." Sucker born every minute.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The only thing I’d ever buy from HK parts is G3 mags, they only up charge a little on those

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            First off, why are you tripfagging, no one cares who you are. Secondly, HK Parts are unironic gigagarden gnomes pieces of shit that.

            • 3 weeks ago
              MilSurpDude

              1)Because it angers anons and gives me replies
              2) Yet another case of anon inferring me staring a fact about HKParts (they get to set the price because they're the only ones with any product in stock) as advocating for them. Tragic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >staring a fact about HKParts (they get to set the price because they're the only ones with any product in stock) as advocating for them.

                You failed to state why they have stuff in stock and their various other underhanded practices. Its shilling at its finest.

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                Are you dumb? I think you gotta be. You do have guns to post right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                reminder that this gay lives in his mom's basement and is like 40 kek

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                Mother's been dead for decades and I'm 63, get your shit together anon.

                Why the fuck is there so much sperging out in a thread about getting G3 imports in the future? What the fuck is wrong with you all?

                Turkey gets mentioned in any capacity and 1-2 smoothbrained are guaranteed to have psychotic breakdowns and make the entire thread unusable, or so I theorize. 24/7 politics rot the mind.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Mother's been dead for decades and I'm 63
                LOL

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok Boomer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                >Mother's been dead for decades and I'm 63, get your shit together anon
                based this is gonna be me

                Don't mistake my pity for you being delusional enough to want to be recognized by a bunch of autists on a shitty website that's about 16 years past its prime for anger. You're pathetic and should go outside. Stop seeking attention.

                cry more you fucking gay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >63 years old

                Man it's great that you're still able to use a computer

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't mistake my pity for you being delusional enough to want to be recognized by a bunch of autists on a shitty website that's about 16 years past its prime for anger. You're pathetic and should go outside. Stop seeking attention.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't think some trip who has been here for as long as this geezer has cares, so shut up and move on.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I came in expecting like 600-750 and when I saw the price I got a little dizzy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          HK USA sells the A3 F stock for that price but its perpetually out of stock since scalpers like HKparts and Gunbroker resellers snap them up ASAP.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but what if you want the old style A3stock?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Then you are boned and have to resort to airsoft parts.

            • 3 weeks ago
              MilSurpDude

              You're fucked.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tfw you picked up a used A3 stock for under $300 from Gatewood Supply years ago and current day folks are resorting to airshit stocks

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                I got mine when HKParts had a batch of 70s era stocks from old retired PD MP5s for $300. Worn but perfectly functional, I replaced the buffer and paid Zenith $100 to refinish it. It looks and functions like new.

                Before that I got a contract POF A2 stock from Gatewood for $60.

                I do not envy newer MP5 owners.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mine is date coded to 1986. Other than some finished removed here and there its in a great shape. I have the green and black POF MP5 furniture sets RTG was selling a few years back as well but I'll probably have to buy another gun if I ever want to use them.

                >pic related but its old and there are even more spare parts and furniture in the box now

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I do not envy newer MP5 owners
                My fucking AP5 doesn't even work so, yeah, thanks for the condolences

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How'd you mess it up?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck me, this is why I have furniture for guns I do not yet own or own spares I currently don't need.t
                t. still regrets not buying $2-3 AK pistol grips, $5-15 stocks, etc.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh wow, u must have “done so many deals” on this gun AKA add to cart

              • 3 weeks ago
                MilSurpDude

                >Keep coping.

                With what? You seem to be sucking tripfag cock. Have at it. He is all yours, fag.

                Is anon okay? I sense anger and resentment.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well I'm clearly not so rich as to view $1,500 as $150. HK fags can pay that price if they want but I will not even if I could. I just cannot mentally justify that a simple structural component can cost that much. I can see how an auto sear is expensive or that a scope is that expensive but this is like telling someone that their pistol grip alone is $800.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I really do love my PTR and like HK guns a lot but I fucking hate the HK fan base. Fuck anyone who sells this and fuck everyone who buys one of these. If the HK guns were some kind of milled, wooden, ultra finished with artists brushes Id feel differently. Even the Bula defense M14s I get because they’re killed and all that, but these things are fucking STAMPED guns with welds you can see from orbit. What is wrong with these people

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What is wrong with these people
          Brandgayry and boomerism
          "It's not my fault that you didn't buy them 30 years ago when they were cheap."
          "I got mine, I don't care."
          "What are you, poor?"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What are you, poor
            Unironically the only argument that I can accept. If you're poor in this day and age with capitalism it's your fucking fault.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I would have to be making $200,000 a year or more to buy an SP5. It’s like the Jeep of guns. Yeah it’s cool and I’m sure you have a great time using it but why would you spend that much money on one when something else is the same price or less with way more practical usage

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                >It’s like the Jeep of guns
                jeeps are actually good tho, one of the last vehicles you can buy that has a solid front axle

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >jeeps are actually good tho
                Hahahaha

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                not an argument
                btw i have 2 toyota hilux, 2wd and 4wd, and i know jeeps are good
                IFS toyota < jeep with a solid axle

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >retarded namefag
                >thinks Jeeps are good
                Checks out.

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                post off road rig

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hurrr durrrr muh rock crawlin!
                IFS is better in literally any situation you'd naturally find yourself in. Intentionally looking for boulders to mount makes you a retard, not adventurous.

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                nice cope
                solid axle is not only better for getting over large obstacles, it is also stronger and more durable/needs less maintenance

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And yet your dirt rig isn't a fucking jeep, curious.
                Could it be because they're an over huped lifestyle brand that is inferior to modern offerings? They're the fucking Harley of off roading.

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                >And yet your dirt rig isn't a fucking jeep, curious.
                i have 2 jeeps as well as my 2 toyotas actually
                go ahead and post your rig at any time

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                '87 XJ Wagoneer limited with the dana 44 was my first vehicle. Still miss that wood paneled beast. No flashy upgrades, no lift kits, the thing just pushed itself through whatever I put it in, from the beach to the snow and mud covered mountain trails.

                F

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I hate that these aren't more prevalent.

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                yeah and the ones that still exist are going over 10k for a beat to shit one now
                anything nice is like 20+k
                feels good, but the sad fact is that an XJ blows it the fuck out in all aspects
                i love my toyotas but it's just undeniable

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >$200,000 a year or more to buy an SP5
                The fuck are you on about? I'm buying an mr73 for my birthday and I make only 90k a year. Just learn how to spend money.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              After a certain price point, I'd get more enjoyment out of just getting a new gun than an accessory for one I already have.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                After a certain paycheck you don't even look at the pricetag

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I do many stupid expensive things, but I still like to at least weigh the decisions first

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy Christ on a cracker! Shame on anyone who would consider paying that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Meh. Our local "tourist trap" range has a beat to shit mp5 with an A3 airsoft stock that lasted them 10 years of abuse by normies shooting FA.
        Once my MKE knockoff arrives I'll put a replica A3 as well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          MilSurpDude

          Are you sure it's airsoft and not a ATI or POF knockoff? A lot of force is exerted on the back plate, you want to make sure it can withstand that.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            100% sure. If from one of the "fullmetal" repros that are popular in europe. They ordered a bunch from San Marino and apparently the same line that makes those makes softair aks with original surplus furniture

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i cant speak for mke, itd be great if they do.
      i know zenith usa is making a3 stocks so thats something to look forward to. i suspect itll still be $300-400 though

      I got one. What am I supposed to do with it? It just sits in my parts bin.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sell it, a3 market is at an all time high

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So these will have CHF barrels?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ye

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >turkey
    i rather get beheaded by a dull knife then revived 300 times than use a gun made in turkyiv

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Based
      I've been calling Century customer service all fucking day because my AP5 is fucked

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What happened to your AP5?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How'd you mess it up?

          Once every mag or every other mag it will fail to eject and leave a case in the action.
          It's extracting fine, it's stripping a fresh round fine, but it chambers the fresh round and closes the empty case between the carrier and the trunnion.

          In slow motion you can see a trend of ejection that is
          >Several cases eject strongly at a high ark far right and slightly forward of the gun
          >A case will eject nearly horizontal at a 90° from the ejection port straight to my right
          >One or two good strong ejections
          >Several cases will practically dribble out of the gun and fall back towards me
          >Finally one case will fail to leave the gun entirely
          Clearing the malfunction will return good, strong high and forward ejection like nothing happened.

          Today it was doing it with S&B 124gr brass case, American Eagle 147gr, and 147gr round nose I chrono'd at 1100fps at the start of the trip.

          I've called century five times today and gotten a voice-mail every time. I sent them an email about it last week and never heard back.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How high does the ejector ride in relation to the cutout in the bolt head when you slowly pull back on the cocking handle? If it doesn't look like the ejector would make good contact with the rim of the case your trigger pack might need to be shimmed a little higher in the trigger housing.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The carbon is worn away about 1/4" back from the bolt face in the ejector channel on the underside of the bolt. So it's coming up enough to drag on the bolt before the case reaches it. and when looking down at it when dry cycling the ejector looks like it's fully "up"

              Also, it's a 2-pin gun so you can't really shim it, the front pin sets the grip module position.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Also, it's a 2-pin gun so you can't really shim it, the front pin sets the grip module position.

                Not that it matters since you say it appears to fully be up but the pins do not correlate to the trigger pack being able/unable to be shimmed in the trigger housing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The safety wouldn't fit if I did, bitch is tight, that's why I thought you meant the grip module

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The safety would still fit as shimming just involves putting a thin piece of something (beer can, brass strips, etc.) under the front part of the trigger box in the trigger housing to angle the ejector up. The safety is a round hole and unless you are using way too much trim will still be in alignment.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck it, I'll give it a try, why not.
                What's fucking with me is how it will kick cases really well for a few then suddenly go to shit.

                No jam in this vid, but just LOOK at this shit.
                >I cut out about ten REALLY strong ejections from the start of the vid because it was too long.

                How many extractor springs have you replaced in it?

                None, I just swapped a whole new bolt in.
                Both bolts still have good springs, hold a live round even if you shake them a bit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that a straight mag? Did you try other magazines? Because if the first half the magazine is good and the rest are shit then I would look at the magazine as the possible culprit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, see

                Also, things I've tried
                >Genuine HK FCG pack with HK ejector lever
                >RCM bolt, with brand new extractor and spring
                >Checked headspace on both bolts
                >Tried MKE mags and KCI mags with factory 115gr, 124gr, 124gr +p, 147gr, and hand load 115gr +p and 147gr.

                That's an old SD marked straight mag but this has happened with a bunch of brand new curved mags. Literally 6 different brand new mags.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also, it HAS done it on like the third round in a mag before, but not regularly, it's usually at the end of a mag when I'm doing speed drills like back to back bill drills.
                It full on stovepipes once every 60-100 rounds.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >another non-standard magazine

                Bro. Unless you've tried it with a brand new HK magazine or one made in the last 10 years I think you are chasing your own tail with these issues.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He said he tried MKE magazines, those are HK spec.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If its a core AP5 then he tried it with only 1 MKE magazine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is a normal AP5 with two mags, I've tried
                >2 MKE mags
                >4 KCI 30's
                >1 KCI 20
                >1 HK SD marked 30
                >2 AC Unity

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also, it makes zero sense that the mag would be the problem.
                >It is feeding 100%, it even feeds a round into the chamber when it jams
                >It is extracting 100%, always enough for a fresh round to chamber
                >It's just not EJECTING 100%

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah because the bolt carrier is riding on top of the feed lips slowing it down enough to cause failures to eject but not to feed. It makes sense because the spring is under more pressure with more rounds in the mag so the carrier is only rubbing on the cartridge until the springs are weak enough to not keep a round near the top until the carrier has already dragged across the feed lips and is coming back to strip a round off the top.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Last round in the mag ejects super strong, and the weak ejection was actually in the middle of the SD mag, so I'm not really convinced that's the issue.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Either stick with the MKE's and/or buy one new HK mag and use only that magazine for a couple hundred rounds of 124gr NATO FMJ and see how frequent the issues are. Using KCI and especially AC Unity magazines is just asking for issues and the old SD mag is old enough to be a grandfather so who knows what shit it got put through.

                It just seems to me these mags are exacerbating your issues between magazine quality and low powered range ammo.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, I don't know how to express this to you in a way you will understand because you're hyper fixated on these mags.

                >This vudeo was the FIRST AND ONLY time I used the straight mag
                >I literally just got the KCI mags, they have not been used a ton
                >The AC Unity mags get used once a range trip when I know I'm going to do a reload on the clock so I can throw them on the ground instead of a metal mag
                >The two MKE mags I've had (obviously) since I got the gun have seen the most use, and I've shot everything from 115gr to +p 124gr and 147gr.
                >I'm at over 700 rounds on the gun now with these issues being a constant thing.

                I appreciate your help troubleshooting but holy shit dude, you're stuck on these mags.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My first MKE suffered ejection issues until I gave her 500RDS break in with 147gr 9mm. Personally I'd recommend the same for you. It's also possible your carrier has travel fucked. Is your bcg spring rod straight, is your receiver pinched, and how does your bolt face look?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm on like 700 rounds of mostly 114gr and 147gr.
                Just looked at the gun again, no high friction points moving the BCG in and out.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pics my son, lemme see em. Get boltface, bcg and inside receiver

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unlikely but if it's standard pressure 115 and 147 it could still be breaking in if it's an outlier example. MP5 break in can be highly variable some times and the recommendation is 500rnds of 124gr nato. 400 rnds of 115gr and 200rnds of 147gr powder puffs with a mag or two of 124gr +p mixed in might not have quite been enough.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just for you. MKE mag, S&B 124gr, video starts with a full 30 round mag. Tried to address as many of your variables as possible.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It jammed 4 times today. Put 150 rounds through it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Check your mags position in the magwell with the bolt locked back. It should be aligned pretty much perfectly with the trunnion lip. If it's any higher or any lower it will jam and can be indicative of an out of spec magwell/mag.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >can be indicative of an out of spec magwell/mag

                It can also be an out of spec mag catch piece.
                The US made MP5 mag catch is a bit more oversized than either MKE and HK made ones, thus you get a more snug fit for your mags.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats not bad for a turk gun

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                Bullshit

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                >using my name
                you'll never be me

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Of all the people you could pretend to be, you chose that gay?

              • 3 weeks ago
                BigC

                >says the noguns

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also, things I've tried
                >Genuine HK FCG pack with HK ejector lever
                >RCM bolt, with brand new extractor and spring
                >Checked headspace on both bolts
                >Tried MKE mags and KCI mags with factory 115gr, 124gr, 124gr +p, 147gr, and hand load 115gr +p and 147gr.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How many extractor springs have you replaced in it?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck those shits, hk33 bro!!!! Fuck year

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ptrs being button rifled vs mke being hammer forged is a big fucking deal alone. You're not gonna rebarrel your poverty ticket into brg ptr ever bitch, might as well buy one with the better barrel.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    MKE is a government controlled arms manufacturer for the Turkish military with all the manufacturing and QC resources that a state funded entity can provide. They a much different beast from the smaller Turkish arms companies that make cheap clones of existing guns for civilian consumers.

    In comparison, PTR is a hobbyist shop in the US

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The important thing to take away from this thread is this:

    >THE AR-10 IS SUPERIOR

  23. 3 weeks ago
    BigC

    >buying roller guns from various questionable companies
    >not just making your own from military parts kits
    shig dig etc

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw your roller guns from various questionable companies run just fine because you are not a retard and can fix it if there was an issue

      Yeah, overpaying for parts kits to build your own sure is worth it...

      • 3 weeks ago
        BigC

        parts kits aren't overpriced tho, you can get a g3 parts kit for 525 or a cetme parts kit for 100

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Given the ap5 is 2 pin because of the FA carrier block do you think itd be possible to do this to a cetme I have a kit and I dont want to murder the trigger group.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The lower part of the receiver near the trigger still has a small metal block there that protrudes into the housing to block the auto sear.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That makes far more sense thank you.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long until HK just gives in and starts selling actual G3s in the US?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Until they are no longer a Germany company. You do know its the country of Germany itself, not just HK, that is holding back exports of certain guns to the US, right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean after much pressure they finally caved and started selling the SP5, it could happen again

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          need the SP7

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            other companies are gonna have to start making clones first
            has anyone talked about it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they sold a subgun as a semi auto pistol

          Almost like the laws for rifle and pistol exports are different...If you are still too stupid to grasp this concept I recommend you take a long look at the USC and SL8 and look for at the differences between them and the UMP & G36.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the current SL8 model is a lot more like the G36 so the laws must have been relaxed

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ...they changed the rail and some cosmetics. Nothing mechanically is different between the first imports and current years. You still need a fuck ton of parts and plastic work to get it to be a G36.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can HK even make them anymore?

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’ll stick with my LMT AR-10, thanks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A valuable contribution to the thread, no doubt.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cool honda civic bro.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Made in Turkey
    >Being associated at all with CA
    I'll pass you shill

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the fuck is there so much sperging out in a thread about getting G3 imports in the future? What the fuck is wrong with you all?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gay morons mostly

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Finally! I get to own a G3 again! We've been waiting since Shotshow 2019!

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"Hi we would like to buy m14 rifles t.germany"
    >"Lol no t.USA"
    >Hello we would like to buy FAL rifles"
    >"Lol no T.Belgium"
    >forced to create sheet metal blowback shit heap

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. The Germs were actually happy with the G1/FAL but FN both being garden gnomes with their licensing agreements and the fact the Germs had invaded them twice in the last 50 years at the time to tell them to go pound salt when they asked for the tooling and TDP for the FAL. Tmk, Argentina and Brazil were the only two countries to ever build 100% of their rifles in house. Israel got very close barring the receiver. I have always pointed out this as the real reason the G3 still lives on in some militaries where the FAL did not; its down to the fact that countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, Greece, and Turkey have the TDP and all the tooling for G3 production.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pros over FAL
        >Shorter, cheaper
        >More accurate, thanks to tighter bolt lockup and free floating barrel
        >Slightly more reliable due to violent action
        >Better optic options
        >Hensoldt 4X beats SUIT
        >More modular
        >Longer receiver life
        >Diopter sights preferable over the mediocre FAL aperture

        Cons
        >Front heavy
        >Requires more repetition training
        >Large features for winter conditions (beneficial in adverse though)
        >Not everyone understands diopter sights
        >low sights, high cheek weld makes the gun awkward for short necked users
        >steel trigger housing has mediocre selector switch, fixed with later poly housings
        >heavy trigger, typical of military rifles of that era
        >violent recoil mostly due to the buffer springs being adjusted for rifle grenades as per Bundeswehr contract requirement
        >parastock has slightly uncomfortable buttpiece (never bothered me honestly)
        >cocking handle awkward for most people due to improper technique, easily fixable but requires time

        Stop being a fanboy. They're both good guns. Both are still in use today in third world countries and African shit holes. Both can survive crazy abuse. They have their trade offs. Especially in the civilian world where the cost is so abysmal between the two.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          recoil mostly due to the buffer springs

          It’s actually mostly due to the stock plastic buttpad being ass and too slippery, if you grab a $25 HK21 rubberized one, it takes all that away and makes it much more controllable.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if you grab a $25 HK21 rubberized one, it takes all that away and makes it much more controllable.

            You aren't wrong but that's not exactly how it works anon. The rubber stock pad just helps add another buffer between you and the gun. But the recoil is intense specifically because the gun had to survive the back pressure from a rifle grenade going off. I never personally had an issue with the plastic one aside from it being slippery and I did eventually upgrade to the 21 pad which was nice.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Shorter
          The para FAL is a thing if you don't like that FN made different barrel lengths as well.
          >Cheaper
          About the only praise I'll give the G3
          >Violent action=more reliable
          Most people with FALs would just turn their gas regulators to wide open and they never had issues
          >Better optic options
          Uhh since both can have a pic rail both can mount whatever
          >HK claw mounts and the SUIT were known to lose their zero so both lose in this
          >More modular
          This is just a buzzword and you threw it in because..
          >Longer receiver life
          Forged FAL receivers have a life expectancy of 90k to 120k rounds so I think its fine. Is there any information out there to compare the G3 in this regard?
          >Sights
          Ahh yes, the G3 diopters sights so good that literally any photo you see of soldiers using them have put it on the 200m setting because the 100m option is trash
          >Accuracy
          There have been several tests conducted by militaries that show both the FAL and G3 are basically the same in terms of accuracy and are not being based of a Chinese guy in Texas using two off brand rifles for the comparison.

          Also in what way was my post you replied to meant to be fanboyism? It is a fact on why FN wouldn't give the Germs rights to build the rifle and I even called FN garden gnomes since they basically refuse to ever give that shit out. The one massive perk to the G3 over the FAL is why you still see them being used by professional militaries; They already have the factory for the G3, they are fairly cheap rifles to produce, and even moreso when you have all the tooling and the TDP.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Please don't reply to my shit if you can't even read.

            >Uhh since both can have a pic rail both can mount whatever

            I am clearly talking about when they were introduced, hence why I didn't mention picatinny rails.

            >change gas setting

            Yeah something you'll only do after you experience a malfunction. Which could already be too late. Funny how the most reliable guns don't have adjustable gas systems (G3, AR15).

            >HK claw mounts and the SUIT were known to lose their zero so both lose in this
            Not true at all for HK claw mounts. Anyone who has even used one knows this is patently false.

            >This is just a buzzword and you threw it in because
            Buzzword? Having the ability to remove or add a bipod, swap handguards, swap stocks, is a huge advantage that the FAL did not have.

            >Forged receiver
            Oh, you don't know about the Type 3 receivers that make up the majority of FAL.

            >Ahh yes, the G3 diopters sights so good that literally any photo you see of soldiers using them have put it on the 200m setting because the 100m option is trash

            The 100m option is a CQC sight and most engagements where the G3 is in use are typically further out, and regardless there is nothing wrong with the V notch unless you're an absolute retard. Way to out yourself.

            >There have been several tests conducted by militaries that show both the FAL and G3 are basically the same in terms of accuracy and are not being based of a Chinese guy in Texas using two off brand rifles for the comparison.

            The average service G3 is 2-3 MOA with some being 1.5 to 2 (which would typically be made into marksman rifle or fitted with magnified optics)
            The average FAL is 3-4 MOA at best. Piston is not as accurate, cry about it. Anyone who understands barrel harmonics knows this, and the FAL doesn't have a free float barrel.

            Once again, you've demonstrated a bias that I can only summarize up as Rhodesia cum slurping. The FAL is a great gun and so is the G3. Lards like you can't accept that.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I only needed to look up this one graph to know you are pulling most of your 'information' from thin air. Type 3 production did not start until 1973.

              You are the one who felt the need to reply to me in the first place and began throwing insults like a scorn woman or a child. I have no skin in this game but you clearly do. Since you are so attached to the rifle I will not stoop to your level by throwing insults around and will leave you be from now on.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Less than 1.2 million made when the Type 3 cam out and over 5.8 million total after...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't tell him bro...he lives in a fantasy world where all FAL are hammer forged.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Provide a countering source then.

                Don't tell him bro...he lives in a fantasy world where all FAL are hammer forged.

                Not what was being discussed but ok.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally your own source blows you the fuck out. All those number produced on the left side you blind fuck.

                Unless you're going to pretend that they stopped making FALs after one year of Type 3 receivers. In which case, what source are you using quoting total numbers produced to date anon?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So no source then.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Still, both rifle are better as service rifles than the M14, even thou the M14 has arguably better sights...for target shooting that is.

              The AR-10 would have been a very good compromise between the FAL and G3, specially the portuguese contract AR-10, which had everything an infantryman would ever need.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Portuguese paratroopers really liked the AR-10 but due to it being lighter it was less controllable in full auto but nice to carry around.
                The “carry handles” were often outfitted with scopes too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany never tried to adopt the M14, they did consider the AR10 but found the CETME to be far more viable. In trials the CETME was almost entirely on par with the FAL just requiring tweaks, hence it becoming the G3A1. Keep coping with your revisionist history. As much as you hate it the FAL and G3 are both great guns with their own trade offs. G3 are far more reliable than FAL and have better accuracy and mounting options for optics especially at the time of its conception. Not only that but the G3 was far shorter in OAL than the FAL which only competed in the Para models. The AR10 was cool and reliable but not super viable at the time and wasn't a good option until the late 90's and early 2000's. The Portugese used the G3, AR10 and the HK21. If they were bad guns they wouldn't have used them. It's not like they couldn't afford it anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The m14 is the true shitheap. Even the italians made a better m14 than the US with the bm59

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not only is the BM59 a better rifle, it only took 2 years to develop and has more parts commonality with the M1 Garand.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cope

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I accept your defeat

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How fast will a 4140 unlined barrel wear out full auto

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >roller locked
    There are literally no roller locked guns in that post

    • 3 weeks ago
      BigC

      true
      wasn't this guy supposed to die of cancer or something?
      didn't they already confiscate all his guns and destroy them?

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am hardcore an AR10 man but if they make it with wide handguard then I am getting one

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would like an hk33 so I don't have to build one with current parts prices, but I'm very curious and concerned about how these will be imported. Can a big high profile outfit like Century bring in guns that would normally be banned as non sporting, simply by leaving the stock off like Hurricane Butterfly and JDI do? Will they be able to sell stocks alongside these guns or will the ATF tell them not to subvert 922r? I heard they are bringing in A3 stocks very soon but I can't vouch for the source's reliability. It's easy for individuals to buy 16"+ pistols and slap stocks on, but importers/manufacturers can't openly abet it. Will these guns be imported in a legal rifle configuration and converted with US made parts by Century techs? We have decades of precedent for that being a bad idea. I have a lot of questions and haven't had a chance to dig for those answers yet.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    since there's a lot of collapsible stock talk here, can anyone help me ID this stock? came on a c93, is it authentic hk? how would i tell?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >is it authentic hk
      not even close but if you don't care about that stuff like a non-sperg then its fine

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i don't really care, just looking for a model / price it'd go for if i decide to go back to the factory stock

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ATI knockoff that's worth $3-400 currently. They don't work great, but they're ok. I have one

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come they can't import anymore of these?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They can, they just take a while to bring the kits in. I think they have some mp 38 kits coming they say and they plan on building a few of the mp38s in the us first

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it 100% confirmed or just more bullshit rumors?

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a PTR a few months back, so I guess you can thank me. But more price and quality options are never a bad thing.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks for the heads up

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't think of a reason why I would pay the same money for a HK clone made by Turkey as one made in the US, unless they had some offering not available from PTR. And generally I would prefer to deal with PTR's customer service rather than Century if I did have a warranty issue. All of this comes with the caveat that I would buy that 5.56 hk rifle (hk33?) from the Devil himself if it was for sale.
    >unrelated pic por la atención

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wish these mke knockoff were priced similarly even here in europe. For 1100 euro I wouldn't give a fuck if it had a jam or 2. But here they are 2200 for the fixed stock version and 2400 for the mp5k version complete with stock. An sp5 is just 600 euro more.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this HK thread now a pissing match over jeeps
    >other HK thread (

    [...]

    ) actively discussing furgayry

    • 3 weeks ago
      BigC

      Fuck off noguns

    • 3 weeks ago
      BigC

      >this HK thread now a pissing match over jeeps
      people get really hung up on topics they have no idea about
      it's fucking crazy
      they will have a multi-hour long pissing match over things they don't own and never will own with people who own both items being debated who have vast experience with both items being debated
      the internet is so crazy

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