>causes the collapse of the Soviet Union

>causes the collapse of the Soviet Union
How did the stinger get to be so based?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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    you shills are fucking annoying

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What does that lone incident have to do with the stinger causing the collapse of the Soviet Union? Are you ok anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        heres your (you)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That was Chernobyl

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you do realize that Russia and the Soviet Union are not the same thing right?

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Stingers would be responsible for over half of the 451 Soviet aircraft losses in Afghanistan. But these statistics are based on Mujahideen self-reporting, which is of unknown reliability.
    >based on Mujahideen self-reporting, which is of unknown reliability.
    Imagine basing your opinion of the Stinger on what Mohamamed the flying carpet says kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And IGLAs record is based entirely off of soviet/Russian self reporting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wait that can't be true? The Stingers claim to fame is entirely based on what the Mujahdeen say? This is huge.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Also they had comparable effectiveness to a cheap belt fed hmg, which wasn't very good.
        >By 1988, Kuperman states, the Mujahideen had all but stopped firing them. Another source (Jonathan Steele) states that Stingers forced Soviet helicopters and ground attack planes to bomb from higher altitudes with less accuracy, but did not bring down many more aircraft than Chinese heavy machine guns and other less sophisticated anti-aircraft weaponry.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >force soviet helicopters to fly higher
          >this reduces the accuracy of the unguided soviet munitions
          Stinger keeps getting more and more based

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            OP switches from
            >"Stinger won the war!"
            To
            >"Stinger made helicopter fly higher!"

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I’m not OP and they absolutely won the war. The person I replied to was the person who made the claim that the stinger forced the Soviets to fly higher.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And British self reporting. The first stinger kills were scored by the British during the falklands war

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Fires 8 missiles
        >Hits a stationary helicopter and a prop plane misses with the other 6
        >British did not adopt the Stinger after they had the honor of using it first
        They thought it was shit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >meanwhile in real life, Britain used stingers because the blowpipes in storage were shit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah they trialed them for the US, who after Vietnam was afraid of war.

            The British did adopt the stinger tho

            Nope

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The British did adopt the stinger tho

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>Hits a stationary helicopter and a prop plane misses with the other 6
          Source? I’d love to read up on this

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The British adopted the starstreak right? Starstreak has 1 contested kill. That’s way less than the stinger has

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It might not have nearly as many kills as the stinger but it goes way faster and fires 3 guided tungsten rods. That’s fucking cool

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              But it isn’t fire and forget. There’s a reason starstreak wasn’t adopted in mass like the stinger

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Starstreak is for a trained military.
                >Stinger is a gimic aimed at retards and afganis.
                That's why we see more success with the Statstreak/LMM platform in Ukraine whilst the Stinger is practically unheard of.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That's why we see more success with the Statstreak/LMM platform in Ukraine
                What? Starstreak is reportedly very unpopular with the Ukrainian military. 6 months in and still no kills

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, they adopted it after being the first to use the Stinger and being absolutely disgusted how shit it was kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stingers have confirmed shootdowns in the afghan war, falklands war, Angolan civil war, Libyan invasion of chad, Tajik civil war, Chechen war, Sri lanken civil war, syria, and finally Ukraine. That’s fairly impressive

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No worse than basing your opinion of the Holocaust on what the USSR says.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      if the reports are so untrustworthy why did the Soviets flee?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sorry Stinger.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russians out in full damage control mode today. Kherson collapse incoming

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Kherson collapse incoming
      Did not it ''collapse'' three times already?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cope, shill. Russia is winning.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The soviet let the genie of free press out and sort of ended up caring about their sons more than modern Russia does now.

    Afghans are some of the saddest vets. At least that I know of in Europe.
    >conscripted into an absolutely barbaric army and sent off to its Vietnam
    >war is lost
    >state collapses
    >you fought for what your new state sees as the occupant army

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    *0 confirmed kills in your path*

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That's why we see more success with the Statstreak/LMM platform in Ukraine
      What? Starstreak is reportedly very unpopular with the Ukrainian military. 6 months in and still no kills

      Ah now you are cope posting which is a shame. There are numerous shoot downs with SS/LMM all on video vs None with the Stinger lol

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chernobyl costed way more, like 10% of the USSR gdp in damages.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did you seriously make a thread based on my shitpost?

    I feel honored. SPREAD THE WORD OF THE MIGHTY STINGER

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It may not have been the only factor contributing to the soviet withdrawal but it was a huge part

      See how no one cares? It's pretty shit man

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >no one cares!
        >enters thread
        >posts

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It may not have been the only factor contributing to the soviet withdrawal but it was a huge part

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >causes the collapse of the Soviet Union
    I thought muh socialism did that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought muh socialism did that
      No it was definitely a handheld missile launcher

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based stinger

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/1mfAGBp.jpg

      >I thought muh socialism did that
      No it was definitely a handheld missile launcher

      Based stinger

      Stingers are so based it just makes socialism not work.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cuba and Angola were the downfall of the USSR, the Stinger was a tactical edge in Afghanistan

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