Cant afford the F-35? Poor thirdie shithole? Are your slums bigger than your entire capital city?

Cant afford the F-35? Poor thirdie shithole? Are your slums bigger than your entire capital city? Is ur gdp per capita less than that of a used 2000 honda civic? But still want a ""stealth""" fughter? Well ive got the perfect plane for you. The KF-21 Its a stealth fighter perfect for third world shitholes. Buy one and get one 50% off.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    su-75 blocks your path

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even thirdies require the product to have a hope of existing before they buy in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yuck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Su-75 Femboy doesn't actually exist though. KF-21 is real.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >literally smoke and mirrors
      kek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >KF-21
        holy shit you're right

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice Mig 21 body kit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone point and laugh at the tiny intake

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just look at the fine craftsmanship.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck me did they strip some sheet metal off old subway cars and form them onto the frame?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Composite panels are literal wunderwaffes to them. That's the best they could do after pocketing 90% of the budget and having Igor go to the scrapyard for some sheet metal to slap on it after his third pint of vodka.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its just a quick display piece. It probably can't even fly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >soft ball size dents
        >on the underbelly
        >of a literal 1 of 1 aircraft
        >that has never left the ground
        I genuinely dont even know what to say. Thats just incredible, evem by ruskie standards.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >dents
          those are superior russian aerodynamic surfaces

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When that one Mig25 pilot defected the US analysts were shocked to find it covered in "slap dash repair jobs" only to find out it had only been flown once and came off the assembly line that way

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how did they even manage to do it so bad? did they use plastic hammers over a wooden mock up form? even people on cuba are better restoring cars from the 50s than this. Russians are just savages producing cargo cult vaporware

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even for a scale mockup, that's shitty. It's like the metal is paper thin and nobody even bothered to polish it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She’s rough. banged up and been through a couple c-sections no doubt.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muscovite quantum welding

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reverse image search shows that's MI-35 or whatever they call it now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >moronsung plane
      >Subhumans flying trash can

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hey Lockheed-Martin can I copy your 5th gen fighter homework?
      >yeah, just make it look like you weren't copying

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Su-57 is the first NFT-based fighter jet. It only exists on the blockchain.
      You can buy a link to a jpg of it for 75 million roubles (19.99 USD)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >75 million roubles (19.99 USD)
        kek

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The rouble will soon be pegged to zimbabwe bucks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Says that while fossil fuel prices are all over the roof.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's good news for UAE. But nobody is buying russian shit anymore, that's why the rubble tanks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey look boys,
      All 3 Su-75's in existence in one photograph!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Su-22 is actually Su-17, and based on Su-7
      >Su-35 is merely a variant of Su-27
      >Su-57 is just Su-27 with a bodykit
      >lets merge with MiG to make a modern day MiG-21 and give it some ridiculously high number, because burgers are still only at 35
      looking forwards to Su-101 lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Su-57 is just Su-27 with a bodykit

        Na it's a Mig 21 with a bodykit. Su-27 has twin engines and intakes on the sides, Mig 21 has one engine and intake below the nose

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Su-57 is the Felon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Su-57 is just a Su-27 with a bodykit
        That's absolutely retarded, it's like saying the F-20 Tigershark is an F-5 Tiger II with a different bodykit. Only an American would be capable of such idiotic and simplistic reductionism. Not surprising since your congressmen can't tell the difference between a Hornet and a Super Hornet either.

        PS: not Russian btw, but you're welcome to keep guessing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And a ching chong to you too

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol said the mutt chud, serious question why are there so many trannies in the US? Its getting to the point where everybody stereotypes white mutts in US as trannies, lololol

            The US even has trannies in their federal government and the leading candidate buttjuice is expected to be the first US chud president lolololol such shame lololololol

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >implying I'm murican
              lol
              >everybody not liking my totalitarian hellhole is a chud
              lmao
              Get eaten by escalator, Peng

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Such shame lmfao

                Seriously how does this picture make you feel? Are you proud or embarrassed, fucking gay

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't give a fuck, Peng. You can nuke the US tomorrow, and I can't care less, as long as they nuke you right back.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Moderate btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >chained&bolted down
      gopnik smells copper

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do turd worlders need a stealh plane? If I was some brownoid dictator I'd just get a fleet of biplanes.

    >cheap
    >easy to maintain
    >perfect for dropping dumb bombs on dissidents

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same reason shithole oil countries spend billions of dollars building a big cube or whatever out in the middle of desert wasteland, while only 5% of the country has running water

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If I was some brownoid dictator
      All brownoid dictators care about is appealing to a childish notion of toughness. It's all about the appearance of strength and toughness, in as showy a way as possible, without having to invest any of the time or effort that building the capacity needed to maintain such aircraft would require. It seems to work pretty well too: their brownoid subjects eat it up, and seem to be largely unconcerned with their actual capabilities, as long as they can tell themselves they've got the bestest new shiny.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      carbon composite biplanes will unironically be the meta
      >negligible radar signature
      >lot of lift -> small engine ->minimal heat signature
      >short takeoff and landing +
      >loiters forever
      >simple easy dis/assembly
      >fits on a boat trailer disassembled
      >anything can launch a missile
      for similar reasons, I think unmanned helium balloons armed with bombs and shit will find tons of applications in the future

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A carbon fiber flying boat would actually be incredible for that.
        >runways don't require maintenance
        >boaty design is a natural fit for internal weapons bays and extra fuel tanks since modern electronics all fit in cockpit+nose
        >big enough to carry anti shipping missiles
        >carbon fiber hull doesn't corrode in seawater, which is why yachts are moving to it, further reducing maintenance

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why do smoothbrain dictators need the biggest and shiniest new toys

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't they around the same price?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      KF21 costs the same as an F35, both $75 million per unit

      The redpill is that the KF21 actually outperforms the F35 and why every country now wants it to "supplement" any F35s they can acquire

      The latest intel is KAI already has requests for over 1000 units, over half from Europe, this is going to be the F16s for the next three decades

      They're $80mil+ which is more than an F-35A with fewer capabilities, and no internal storage for weapons and shit stealth. Why would anyone buy one over an F-35A?

      KF-21 is "cheap" due to maintenance and cost per flight hour rather than unit price. KAI engineer was in an interview and said KF-21 is cheaper to maintain than F-35, rafale, and eurofighter.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Products are reliable and don't break down

        There is a reason why the ak47 was so wildly popular by soldiers that actually pull a trigger in a live combat situation, the m16 is a "better" rifle in theory but in reality has massive malfunction issues compared to an ak that can be thrown in a river or run over by a vehicle and still somehow fires with reasonable accuracy

        Incidentially, the daewoo k2 is by far the most popular assault rifle (also most expensive) and is supposed an m16 with an ak47 durability

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Canada should unironically buy a bunch of them to hi-low with the F-35.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KF21 costs the same as an F35, both $75 million per unit

    The redpill is that the KF21 actually outperforms the F35 and why every country now wants it to "supplement" any F35s they can acquire

    The latest intel is KAI already has requests for over 1000 units, over half from Europe, this is going to be the F16s for the next three decades

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The redpill is that the KF21 actually outperforms the F35

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The redpill is that the KF21 actually outperforms the F35 and why every country now wants it to "supplement" any F35s they can acquire
      this, literal apple and Samsung of the skies

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not buy J-20?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're not offering it for international sale, J31 might be but the PRC has been iffy about selling that too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The J-20 is $120mil. And a complete shit pile.

      >Why would anyone buy one over an F-35A?
      You still want a "stealth" fighter, but you're not on the US or China's good boy lists and you're wise to Su-57's shenanigans

      The KF-21 uses US parts and systems, which means it has to obey ITAR laws. So, it wouldn't make a difference, as they would need the US's permission to buy one anyway, and if you're on the US's shit list, you won't get one.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But what about countries that aren't on the shitlist but we don't trust with F-35s? Turkey, Egypt, etc.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd assume they would rather go with a new F-16 block 70/72, or F-15EX, as they are cheaper or around the same price. They would already be familiar with those platforms, and have crews and pilots trained on them. They're combat tested and proven; the KF-21 isn't. Why would you go with the KF-21 when you can go straight to the source? It would make zero sense, unless you are getting a huge incentive to buy the KF-21.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would you go with the KF-21 when you can go straight to the source?
            1.F-16 doesn't have an ability to proceed to the next level of stealth, KF-21 was built with an upgrade in mind so it has a giant cavity under its belly.
            2. The current price of a new F-16 is at least $1 billion currently, and the orders are already fully booked until 2027.
            3. It could use a bunch of Korean weaponry which is considered way less expensive than the US/EU made. There are already a Meteor-like BVRAAM and hypersonic on the way.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >1.F-16 doesn't have an ability to proceed to the next level of stealth, KF-21 was built with an upgrade in mind so it has a giant cavity under its belly.
              So, you're going to buy a KF-21 for $80 billion, wait for worse Korea to "upgrade" theirs for internal carry, and have to send it back to them for the retrofit and pay probably another $10mil+ for it? Why not just make it stealth from the get go? It's not like it's cheaper without it, anyway. It costs more than an F-35A, and just about any 4th gen.

              >2. The current price of a new F-16 is at least $1 billion currently, and the orders are already fully booked until 2027.
              moron, what? What F-16 costs $1 billion? And proof they're booked until 2027?

              >3. It could use a bunch of Korean weaponry which is considered way less expensive than the US/EU made.
              Nothing worse Korea has is cheaper than the US/EU equivalent.

              >There are already a Meteor-like BVRAAM
              How much is it compared to the Meteor? Not estimates, I want actual contract prices of delivered missiles.

              >hypersonic on the way.
              No it's not. Maybe in 20 years. The US is the only one that is actively working on hypersonic missiles for fighter/attack platforms and has programs which are testing missiles right now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It will have an IWB starting in batch 2, which is scheduled to be introduced in the mid 30s, the gist is they apply the stealth technology that is developed for the stealth UCAV to KF-21. But the batch 1 will still be available as a cost effective option.
                >moron, what? What F-16 costs $1 billion? And proof they're booked until 2027?
                The earliest delivery date for the latest Jordanian F-16 deal is in 2027.
                >The LOA was signed June 17 with a Lockheed spokesperson telling Breaking Defense “We anticipate the production contract for this LOA will be complete in the next year,” with deliveries expected to start in 2027.
                https://breakingdefense.com/2022/06/new-f-16s-give-jordans-air-force-a-boost-but-what-comes-next/
                This is why Lockheed is currently directing its F-16 clients to FA-50 instead which is expected to have a similiar ability to it.
                >Nothing worse Korea has is cheaper than the US/EU equivalent.
                FA-50 is already a budget F-16, and the KF-21 is standing up to be a budget F-35. The whole world knows that they're the only actual acceptable options for penny aircrafts.
                >How much is it compared to the Meteor?
                They're working on both a meteor and aim-260 clone with the source code they're provided with from the MBDA during the actual meteor integration. And since South Korea has a long history of working on ramjet technology I'd say it's completed by the time it enters service. Sadly there's no exact timeline on this.
                >No it's not. Maybe in 20 years.
                South Korea is already test launching its own zircon-like hypersonic missile this year.
                https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/south-korea-develops-hycore-hypersonic-cruise-missile
                >DAPA did not disclose any additional information. However, Janes understands that DAPA aims to test the ground-launched missile in 2022. Research on the project has reportedly been under way since 2018.
                It's already here, whether you like it or not.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It will have an IWB starting in batch 2, which is scheduled to be introduced in the mid 30s
                So, again, what is the benefit of buying one now? You would have to buy a "batch 2", or send yours back to get retrofitted for $10mil+
                >the gist is they apply the stealth technology that is developed for the stealth UCAV to KF-21.
                What stealth UAV? The copy of the 20-year-old MiG Skat UAV? How exactly will that translate to the "batch 2"?
                >The earliest delivery date for the latest Jordanian F-16 deal is in 2027.
                >The LOA was signed June 17 with a Lockheed spokesperson telling Breaking Defense “We anticipate the production contract for this LOA will be complete in the next year,” with deliveries expected to start in 2027.
                >https://breakingdefense.com/2022/06/new-f-16s-give-jordans-air-force-a-boost-but-what-comes-next/
                Bahrain is getting theirs in 2023. Sounds more like Jordan just doesn't have the money until 2027.
                >This is why Lockheed is currently directing its F-16 clients to FA-50
                Source?
                worse Korea has is cheaper than the US/EU equivalent.
                >FA-50 is already a budget F-16
                It's a glorified T-38 for $30mil+ and less capable than the base F-16.
                >and the KF-21 is standing up to be a budget F-35.
                How? When it costs more than the F-35A and is less capable and not stealthy?
                >They're working on both a meteor and aim-260 clone with the source code they're provided with from the MBDA during the actual meteor integration.
                Proof they have the source code? And proof they're "working" on them? Paper designs don't count. You still haven't given me a price.
                >And since South Korea has a long history of working on ramjet technology
                Like what?
                >South Korea is already test launching its own zircon-like hypersonic missile this year.
                That doesn't say they're already testing it, and it's a copy of the X-51. Not a fighter carried HCM. Come back when they actually test it in 2040.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what is the benefit of buying one now?
                Batch 1 will still be present even after the introduction of batch 2. Think it as an end of the line 4.5th gen aircraft, which are still top notch for countries that are neglected from US/EU made fighters.
                >What stealth UAV? The copy of the 20-year-old MiG Skat UAV?
                You're probably referring to the KUS-FC, which is specialized in bomber, reconissance tasks. KUS-LW is what will be the MQ-58A equivalent of it.

                They are currently working on both designs, and are expected to enter service in early 30s.
                >Bahrain is getting theirs in 2023.
                That's because Bahrain sealed its deal in 2018.
                https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/06/25/new-f-16s-are-headed-to-bahrain/
                So instead of coming up with ridiculous delivery plans why don't you see for yourself?
                >It's a glorified T-38 for $30mil+ and less capable than the base F-16.
                A single engined F-5 that is F-20, which once had competed with F-16 in the same domain in the 80s. Guess who has inherited the title now? Also, the AESA radar that it will be receiving is better than AN/APG-83 on F-16, which virtually makes them the same at least in terms of A2A combat. Even the EL/M-2032 on the current block 10 is much better than AN/APG-68 on a baseline F-16.
                >How?
                The current flight cost hour per hour of F-35 is $38k, KF-21 is expected to be less than half of it. This is possible because the engine it uses is the same F-414 on Navy F/A-18E super hornets. KF-21 deliberatelt incorporated lots of off-the-shelf items to save on time and prevent budget overrun.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Batch 1 will still be present even after the introduction of batch 2.
                Who says this? So, they're going to be running two production lines for two different platforms? This isn't going to help prices go down.
                >Think it as an end of the line 4.5th gen aircraft, which are still top notch for countries that are neglected from US/EU made fighters.
                The KF-21 has to abide by ITAR laws. Any country that can buy it can buy US/EU platforms. Getting a better equipped and capable platform for less money. No point in buying the overpriced US moron knock-off.
                >KUS-LW is what will be the MQ-58A equivalent of it.
                A copy? Can you morons make anything on your own?
                >That's because Bahrain sealed its deal in 2018.
                >https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/06/25/new-f-16s-are-headed-to-bahrain/
                >So instead of coming up with ridiculous delivery plans why don't you see for yourself? You still haven't given a source on LM sending business to FA-50s.
                See what for my self? Finish your sentence. Maybe Jordan shouldn't be poor and order sooner. They're just trying to get gibs from the US to pay for them.
                >Also, the AESA radar that it will be receiving is better than AN/APG-83 on F-16,
                Proof?
                >which virtually makes them the same at least in terms of A2A combat.
                >at least
                And it costs at least $20 million more than the F-16C block 70/72.
                >Even the EL/M-2032 on the current block 10 is much better than AN/APG-68 on a baseline F-16.
                Proof?
                >The current flight cost hour per hour of F-35 is $38k, KF-21 is expected to be less than half of it.
                >is expected.
                Yeah, am I'm the Easter Bunny. Come back when they actually have some fielded and real data. Not hopium claims. Also, the F-35A is $28k, only $5k more than the F-15C.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't even need to go to KF-21 to measure the cost. You could simply compare the flight cost of the Navy's super hornets.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, you can't. As the F/A-18 Super Hornet isn't the KF-21.

                https://i.imgur.com/7eqO7Nr.jpg

                KF-21 is bound to be cheaper because it contains less high-tech gimmicks that result in the price hike of the aircraft. For example much of it's main auxiliary units are bought out from Eurofighter components that are readily available from the onset of the development.
                https://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newscobham-to-deliver-antenna-suite-for-kais-kf-x-fighter-5953113/
                >moron, that's a paper design copy of the XQ-58A.
                One can't simply copy the inside by only looking at the appearance of outside. They will be vastly different from one another.

                >KF-21 is bound to be cheaper
                Sounds like hopium claims. Show me actual data, and I'll believe you.
                >One can't simply copy the inside by only looking at the appearance of outside.
                What's going to be on the inside of the Korean copy of the XQ-58A? You can find pretty detailed CAD drawings of the inside of the XQ-58A's weapons bay.
                >They will be vastly different from one another.
                I'm sure they will, as Korea doesn't have the knowledge to build one the same as the XQ-58A. It will be a cheap copy that costs 150% just like everything else Korea has.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hopium
                bro they've been developing a turbofan engine specifically designed for use in UAVs since 2015.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And? Now, address the rest of my post, moron.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Once it's actually fielded in 2030, we can talk. This thread is pointless, with nothing but moron hopium shilling. I'll let it die now.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hopium
                >prototype literally been flying since 2015
                You're late. Go to sleep, anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >taking statements out of context then dunking on them
                You were asked about the stealth fighter, not that stupid drone, retard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a literal copy of the 20-year-old MiG Skat UAV. Let me see it fly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Proof?
                https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-wing/raytheon-unveils-compact-half-priced-gallium-nitride-aesa-radar/145611.article
                >Sandfier claims the compact AESA ought to have better performance than the radar installed on the US Air Force’s (USAF) F-16 fleet, the Northrop Grumman SABR APG-83 AESA.

                >“The compact AESA solution draws less power from the platform, which in turn allows for the radar to deliver targeting and tracking capabilities on par, if not better than, the bigger, heavier APG-83 AESA radar,” he says. ”The compact AESA solution has digital beam forming and steering, multimode functionality and interleaved ground and air targeting”.

                >Raytheon’s yet-to-be-named compact AESA radar weighs about 59kg (130lb), about one third as much as radars on sale currently, says Dick Sandfier, strategic pursuits and business creation capture executive at Raytheon Intelligence & Space. The radar is roughly 71 x 37cm (28 x 14.5in) and is air cooled.

                Next time do your homework by yourself.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Sandfier claims
                >ought to have
                What radar is the KF-21 actually getting? What does your link have to do with the KF-21 radar?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >not trusting words from a company official
                What's this level of cope called? Read the article instead of fuming out incoherent schreeching.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That doesn't say anything about the KF21.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because it's about FA-50, not KF-21. Are you even following the consversation here?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Indian Shill

                >The radar is roughly 71 x 37cm (28 x 14.5in) and is air cooled.
                >Air cooled
                Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A small air cooled AESA is a good thing to give small aircraft with weak power plants a better radar but yeah there no way it competes with an APG-83

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not UNREALISTIC since the advancement in technology is a big thing especially in electronics. They're already working on proposing this to both T-7A and FA-50 so we'll find out soon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                APG-83 is a newer upgraded AESA, not the old pulse doppler from the 90s. It's essentially a continuation of the apg-77/81 line but smaller and made for a weaker power plant. Likely there are some other downgrades but that stuff is going to be hidden from public info. There's no real way for a much smaller AESA with worse cooling and less power to compete with it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are many more ways to examine a radar other than it's mechanical or AESA. For example, whether it's GaAs or GaN, transistor, TDP

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's light enough that you could mount one in your truck to make the most technologically advanced technical ever.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >B-but sir, surely Tejas is going to bag the Malaysian tender right...? There's no way it is losing to a trainer...?
                https://www.janes.com/defence-news/defence/latest/hal-sees-opportunity-for-tejas-in-malaysias-flit-programme
                Since when did Janes let poos defecate on its editorial?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Proof they have the source code?
                Any missiles that are integrates onto an aircraft must be provided with a source code in order to make the computer recognize it. This is why MBDA has allowed meteor integration for KF-21, whereas it declined the request from India to make it work on Tejas, because it will immediately make a copy of it with the ramjet technology and the source code obtained through the process.
                https://www.key.aero/article/mbda-integrate-meteor-kf-x
                Korea has passed on this matter because the projects that I listed had been confidential until recently. South Korea acquired ramjet technology from Russia back when two countries had good relationships.
                >it's a copy of the X-51. Not a fighter carried HCM
                The original waverider was air-launchable to start with.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Any missiles that are integrates onto an aircraft must be provided with a source code in order to make the computer recognize it.
                Not really. You don't need access to all the code to fire a missile.
                >This is why MBDA has allowed meteor integration for KF-21, whereas it declined the request from India to make it work on Tejas, because it will immediately make a copy of it with the ramjet technology and the source code obtained through the process.
                Isn't that exactly what you are claiming worse Korea is doing, though? So, you are pulling a chinsect move?
                >Korea has passed on this matter because the projects that I listed had been confidential until recently.
                What matter? Lying to get the meteor to copy, and then canceling further plans with it?
                >South Korea acquired ramjet technology from Russia back when two countries had good relationships.
                What ramjets?
                >The original waverider was air-launchable to start with.
                No shit, genius. Sticking a booster on it and calling it new doesn't change the fact it's an X-51, with an ATACMS copy second stage and a booster for surface launch. Also, it isn't real, or tested yet. So, no reason to even mention it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > FA-50 is already a budget F-16

                Just lol at the brainlets, the F16 is a fine jet sure but its 1970s base platform, 50+ years old with a gorillion frankenstein updates, its at end of life and every nation that can is getting something better

                The FA50 is the F16 of the modern era, it will be fulfilling this role for the next 30 or 40 years, in 2050s people will be memeing of the FA50s like they do the F16s today

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Japs have had a hypersonic for the F-2 for a while. The range just isn't great.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No they haven't. Are you talking about their paper copy of the X-51?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >J-20
        >And a complete shit pile.
        you're dumb. Your mom knows it, your dad knows it, your teachers know it. Did they bother to tell you?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cope all you want, Ping Ping. You know it's true.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ngl J-20 kinda sexy, intakes look like she is slipping out of a dress

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did they offer it to someone?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine trying to maneuver in that oversized too stable PoS
      >canard
      I see China still hasn't gotten advanced enough CFD software to field effective unstable fighters

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        retarded as fuck

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hi Hapanda

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong with the Gripen?

    Sell it to Ukraine in incremental payments.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Price. The program cost of the new Gripen E/F for the Brazilian Air force is nearly 0.15 billion USD and you could essentially buy a new F-15 with the same money.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's like you people always forget about stuff besides what can be abstracted in a video-game. Airframe life expectancy, modularity and future upgrades, technology transfers, maintenance costs and mission objective.
        All in all Brazil chose the gripen because it's essentially a western-made mig, with full tech transfer, that can take from red earth roads in the middle of the amazon. That's also the only reason why only Brazil is buying it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's wrong with the Gripen?
      Always too late.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're $80mil+ which is more than an F-35A with fewer capabilities, and no internal storage for weapons and shit stealth. Why would anyone buy one over an F-35A?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why would anyone buy one over an F-35A?
      You still want a "stealth" fighter, but you're not on the US or China's good boy lists and you're wise to Su-57's shenanigans

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, the manufacturer already said it's below $65 million/unit. And even if it's higher than that, it's still cheaper than F-16V that the Philippines tried to buy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No, the manufacturer already said it's below $65 million/unit.
        Sure, and I'm the king of England. They don't make them in enough numbers to allow a price that low. Show me an actual contract, and delivered plane for $65mil, and I'll believe you, moron.
        >cheaper than F-16V that the Philippines tried to buy.
        No, the F-16C block 70/72 costs $63mil/unit, which is what they wanted. Ten of them. That includes 15 Northrop Grumman AN/APG-83 scalable agile beam radars, and all supporting equipment.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No, the F-16C block 70/72 costs $63mil/unit,
          Apparently they demanded $2.43 billion for a package of 12 F-16 which is nearly $0.2 billion per unit.
          https://www.defensenews.com/global/the-americas/2021/06/25/philippines-gets-approved-for-f-16-missile-buy-worth-over-2-billion/
          This is inhibitably expensive for a country like Philippines, which eventually made it cosider KF-21 who has just done its maiden flight a while ago.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Apparently they demanded $2.43 billion for a package of 12 F-16 which is nearly $0.2 billion per unit.
            So, you're that retard that just divides the total package price by the number of planes, and ignores all other equipment in the package? That's not how it works, brainlet. The package included 10 F-16C Block 70/72 aircraft; 2 two-seat F-16D Block 70/72 aircraft; 15 Northrop Grumman AN/APG-83 scalable agile beam radars; 24 Raytheon AIM-120 advanced, medium-range, air-to-air missiles in the C-7 or C-8 variant; bombs; GPS/laser guidance kits, and associated and support equipment. All for $2.43 billion, which seems like a very fair price.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The package included 10 F-16C Block 70/72 aircraft; 2 two-seat F-16D Block 70/72 aircraft; 15 Northrop Grumman AN/APG-83 scalable agile beam radars; 24 Raytheon AIM-120 advanced, medium-range, air-to-air missiles in the C-7 or C-8 variant; bombs; GPS/laser guidance kits, and associated and support equipment.
              It's called a program cost, which I already mentioned earlier.
              >All for $2.43 billion, which seems like a very fair price.
              Sure, but for the same price and schedule you could get a quasi stealth aircraft with an IRST and TGP included. This immediately nullifies the point unless you're a hardcore F-16 fan afterall. Also the F-16 lines are closing down by then, which is why the Poles went for an upgraded FA-50 instead.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's called a program cost, which I already mentioned earlier.
                Where? You just divide the package price by the number of planes and ignore everything else. Like a garden gnome.

                >Sure, but for the same price and schedule you could get a quasi stealth aircraft with an IRST and TGP included
                You can? So, you can show me actual estimates provided by the Korean's that they price will be cheaper? What does the estimate include? What's the timeline?

                Also if you're interested, here's a receipt for Morocco's 25 F-16 and the price is $0.15 billion per unit.
                https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/morocco-f-16-block-72-new-purchase

                So you do it again? Are you sure you're not a hwagyo? You argue like one.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry to break it to you but there's no point in just buying only the aircraft itself unless you want to use the it as a one time measure, you still need those extra engines and spareparts.
                https://www.defensenews.com/air/2022/02/04/biden-administration-approves-42b-f-16-sale-to-jordan/
                The latest deal for Jordan's 16 F-16 $4.
                21 billion which is roughly $0.26 billion per unit. F-16 nowadays are not much cheaper nor faster in delivery than F-35.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yet, you only list the very optimistic unit price for the KF-21, which doesn't include spare engines, bombs, missiles, training and support, infrastructure needs for these planes, etc. So, why wouldn't I compare only the price of the F-16, if you are doing the same for the KF-21? Why try to weasel around like a garden gnome?

                https://i.imgur.com/i0WNda4.jpg

                >Korea is yet to receive stealth techs from Lockheed Martin
                Korea is already working on its own stealth wingmans for KF-21, which are expected to have both IWB and EODAS. The technology derived from the development will later be used in the batch 2 of KF-21.

                moron, that's a paper design copy of the XQ-58A. You morons are literally like chinsects. Nothing but low IQ, glorified Xerox machines that can't do anything without the White man holding your hand.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                KF-21 is bound to be cheaper because it contains less high-tech gimmicks that result in the price hike of the aircraft. For example much of it's main auxiliary units are bought out from Eurofighter components that are readily available from the onset of the development.
                https://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newscobham-to-deliver-antenna-suite-for-kais-kf-x-fighter-5953113/
                >moron, that's a paper design copy of the XQ-58A.
                One can't simply copy the inside by only looking at the appearance of outside. They will be vastly different from one another.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How can you even go 5th gen with less high-tech gimmicks?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How can you even go 5th gen with less high-tech gimmicks?
                By less gimmicks I mean they're scrappable at any point. The fuselage itself was designed with consulting from ex-F-22 developers from LM so they had prepared for future upgrades.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The seething cope from brainlets jelly of SK, they are literally decades ahead of every other "developed" country and centuries ahead of all other countries, at this point SK is realistically the only advanced nation

                They developed the KF21 from design to skies in around 5 years, it takes other "developed" nations 20, 30, 40+ years to go up a single generation in weapons, SK will be at 9th gen before other nations can even sniff 6th gen, if anything for SK combat jet fighters is literally childs play compared to the other stuff they have and are developing

                https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/nuclear-fusion-energy-clean-sun-b2162498.html

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Does it make you feel better that to shill for SK, because you can't shill for shitty vatnig gear now?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope I'm a mutt too but I call it like I see it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All Asians and vatnigs are mutts. That doesn't tell me much.

                F22 is obviously more advanced but no way the US exports the F22, other than that KF21 mogs everything else

                >other than that KF21 mogs everything else
                Proof? Not paper stats, actual proof.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Part nordic euro ancestry and yes I do have a lot of trannies, lesbos and gays in my family, its fucking depressing as fuck

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Also if you're interested, here's a receipt for Morocco's 25 F-16 and the price is $0.15 billion per unit.
              https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/morocco-f-16-block-72-new-purchase

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        F16s can be acquired for $15 million

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No KF-21 to Indomorons. Pay up, gays.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every country that pretends they can't afford F-35s is going to make room for them as soon as the sex pattern is good for export.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    joke on you, lockeed is a partner of the the thing.
    joke on them too probably lockeed meddled in the desing just enought to plant (actual or in the form of spare parts that could be no longer provided) kill switchs.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    F-35 is rapidly becoming the cheapest new fighter on the market. I can't imagine the unit cost of the KF-21 comes even close to the same value. The only reason I can imagine, is USA is hesitant to sell F-35s to the Philippines for some reason.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >for some reason

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw just googled what they actually operate

        This is hilarious, I didn't realize that they don't even operate an actual combat fighter in their air force. No wonder they are shopping for cheap monkey shit. That KF-21 must literally be bottom of the barrel bargain bin tier if the Philippines are looking at it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The KF-21 is better than most of what they could buy, if SU are like a tricycle, it's like a bike with training wheels
          even once you remove the training wheels, you'll never keep up with a sports bike, but at least you can learn how to do "the real thing"
          I think KF-21s would be better as trainers in general

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'd rather just buy F-16s.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everytime I see FA-50 I think it looks tiny. It's not really, but when I see pictures of it my brain keeps telling me it's smaller than it actually is.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Everytime I see FA-50 I think it looks tiny. It's not really, but when I see pictures of it my brain keeps telling me it's smaller than it actually is.
            FA-50 has about the same wingspan as F-16 in reality. Many people are still not aware of this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >forward poker not counted on western planes
            they're not sending their best

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            never realized how small the F-35 really is, it’s down there with the F-16. I assume it gets some pretty hefty thrust to weight in that case

        • 3 weeks ago
          Indian Shill

          It will cost as much as a super hornet.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, the final price was like $45 million which is more affordable than current Tejshit Mk.1A. Also the sheer number of new orders flooding in actually cancelled out the increase in cost. Also phantom strike is going to be cheaper than the current EL/M-2032.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The only reason I can imagine, is USA is hesitant to sell F-35s to the Philippines for some reason.
      They haven't operated real fighter jets since forever (no the F-5A doesn't count) which means their training is shit and that's why they're being offered F-16 Vipers first.
      If their training is shit that means their maintenance and maintainers are even shittier.
      They simply can't pay up, America offered the F-35 even to non-US allies because they know they can pay for it.
      They're a political powder keg, why sell sensitive US military equipment to an """ally""" who claims that they love China and has made overtures to Russia?
      The Philippines is simply unimportant and stopped being that way post-WW2, America has Japan and Korea now. They don't even dock in the Philippines anymore and instead do it in Singapore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If F-35s are sold to Chinese-compromised states like Australia and Singapore, there is no reason not to sell it to the Philippines

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Australia and Singapore are rich, the Philippines is not.

          If Taiwan isn't close to getting mogged by rockets, shells and missiles they would have F-35s already.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. Modern US weapons should never be sold to any nations that don't "hate" China, Australia and Singapore are effectively Chinese colonies at this point, Philippines kind of hates China but they are too susceptible to bribes

          The only nations in Asia that can be trusted with US technology are South Korea and Japan, these two hate China more than every other nation in the world combined

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >South Korea
            SK has been comp'd by the CCP for a while now. Moon was a literal CCP puppet.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              SK hates China more than the US does and more than essentially every European country

              The only nations in the world that are more unfavorable to China are Japan, Sweden and Canada

              For context for mutts think about how the US views China now and make it a little worse but instead of the past few years think the past thousands of years, that is how SK thinks of China

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Civilian opinions don't matter much when your military and politicians are comp'd by the CCP.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, US, Germany and Australia all export more than $100+ billion annually to China

                If current tensions continue there will be a false flag that leads to these nations invading China

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Germany hates everybody, apparently

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                good fuck the rest of the world

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can't wait until Yoon throws the book at Moon

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Lol maybe Australia has some level of independence remaining but Singapore is literally a CCP colony, literally family ties back to the mainland with CCP members, a lot of US tech that was given to Singapore somehow slipped into Chinese hands, would not be surprised if the US is planting fake components or other diversionary parts to anything complicated given to Singapore

              China was only able to develop the J-16 with technology gained from examples of F-15Es given to them by Israel, South Korea and Singapore ..... yet the US continues to make the same mistake and sold all three countries the F-35

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The F-35I has most of the electronics stripped precisely for that reason.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >yet the US continues to make the same mistake and sold all three countries the F-35
                I don't think it's up to the US who they sell to. It's not like the government personally develops them. All proceeds go to whoever manufactured them, Lockheed. At least as far as I'm aware.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is actually up to the US government. Foreign sales of fighter jets require Congressional approval. The F-22 was deliberately not exported at all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because F35 is more than just a stealth design. It's engine is literary 30 years ahead of anything these chinks can make.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >China-compromised states like Australia and Singapore
          >two countries whose entire militaries are geared towards fighting off a Chinese invasion
          Do some research instead of falling for bot posts, retard.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol maybe Australia has some level of independence remaining but Singapore is literally a CCP colony, literally family ties back to the mainland with CCP members, a lot of US tech that was given to Singapore somehow slipped into Chinese hands, would not be surprised if the US is planting fake components or other diversionary parts to anything complicated given to Singapore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron, I'd sell all thr kidneys I have to even have a chance to touch an F-35, but with how Flips are what they are, I'd keep their hands away from it with a 100 ft pole

      >t.flip

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KF21 mach 1.8, 30000ft operating ceiling
    F35 mach 1.6, 20000ft operating ceiling

    The KF21 can operate two miles above an F35, let that sink in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who cares? Stealth and fully integrated sensor fusion are what make F-35 goat tier. I'm sure KF21 is a fine aircraft, but I seriously doubt it has the same capabilities that make it a true game changer like the F-35.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Integrated sensors is primarily software, the same integrated sensors can largely be integrated into any modern combat jet fighter, but yes this is why the F35 is going to be really hard to beat, the F35s will be integrated into the US command and control combined arms system fully coordinated with other operations, but as far as the actual jet fighter itself its not necessarily very impressive and the KF21 is probably the most advanced jet fighter individually in the skies today

        Stealth is important but its increasingly largely overstated on its importance. Its not like stealth makes a combat jet "invisible", there is still a radar signature and the increasingly sophisticated software + AI drones are close to being able to distinguish and target as small as the head of a pin, not to mention the "stealth" only works on certain spectrums, there are many spectrums that will be impossible to cover up by "stealth" tech and again this is already being developed

        Without giving away too much the nextgen will be jet fighters that can operate in low orbit space with AI defense + drones with laser guns that can neutralize an unlimited amount of missiles at the speed of light, AI version of point and shoot

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >KF21 is probably the most advanced jet fighter individually in the skies today
          No, it's not. How did you come to this conclusion?
          >Stealth is important but its increasingly largely overstated on its importance. Its not like stealth makes a combat jet "invisible",
          I don't think anyone with more than two brain cells actually thinks stealth makes you invisible.
          >there is still a radar signature
          No shit, retard.
          >and the increasingly sophisticated software + AI drones are close to being able to distinguish and target as small as the head of a pin,
          If your radar is shit with a shit signal-to-noise ratio, no amount of software and algorithmic band-aiding is going to help you distinguish a 0.0001m^2 -40dB return from background noise at any tactically relevant distance. What software, and AI, would this be, exactly? Who has it, and what godly processors are they using to accomplish this?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Integrated sensors is primarily software, the same integrated sensors can largely be integrated into any modern combat jet fighter, but yes this is why the F35 is going to be really hard to beat, the F35s will be integrated into the US command and control combined arms system fully coordinated with other operations, but as far as the actual jet fighter itself its not necessarily very impressive and the KF21 is probably the most advanced jet fighter individually in the skies today

            Stealth is important but its increasingly largely overstated on its importance. Its not like stealth makes a combat jet "invisible", there is still a radar signature and the increasingly sophisticated software + AI drones are close to being able to distinguish and target as small as the head of a pin, not to mention the "stealth" only works on certain spectrums, there are many spectrums that will be impossible to cover up by "stealth" tech and again this is already being developed

            Without giving away too much the nextgen will be jet fighters that can operate in low orbit space with AI defense + drones with laser guns that can neutralize an unlimited amount of missiles at the speed of light, AI version of point and shoot

            >not to mention the "stealth" only works on certain spectrums
            All spectrums used by military, yeah.
            >there are many spectrums that will be impossible to cover up by "stealth" tech
            The F-35 is invisible from HF to V bands. So, no.
            >The F-35 also has excellent RAM bonded to the composite panels, making it extremely difficult to detect - if not impossible.
            >The composite absorbs radar in a frequency range from about 0.10 Megahertz to about 60 Gigahertz. The CNT-infused fiber material forms a first layer that reduces radar reflectance and a second layer that dissipates the energy of the radar.
            >Radar absorbing composite materials of the present invention are particularly effective, for example, in the L- through K-band as described herein further below.
            https://patents.google.com/patent/US20100271253

            https://www.ineffableisland.com/2010/06/lockheed-martin-discloses-carbon.html
            https://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=197759
            https://www.key.aero/forum/modern-military-aviation/136859-advanced-in-ram-make-low-frequency-radar-much-less-effective-in-future
            https://theaviationist.com/2020/07/05/new-and-old-f-35-coatings-compared-in-recent-photo-of-two-italian-lightning-ii-jets/
            https://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=53014
            >again this is already being developed
            By who? And what is it?
            >Without giving away too much the nextgen will be jet fighters that can operate in low orbit space with AI defense + drones with laser guns that can neutralize an unlimited amount of missiles at the speed of light, AI version of point and shoot
            Now I know you're retarded.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            F22 is obviously more advanced but no way the US exports the F22, other than that KF21 mogs everything else

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The F-35's operating ceiling is 50,000+ feet, retard.
      https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/478441/f-35a-lightning-ii/

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes that is correct

        F35 operating ceiling 50,000 feet

        KF21 operating ceiling 60,000 feet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you the same tard who once tried to claim KF21was superior because it had a higher top speed than the F-35?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KF21 isn't exactly stealth tho.
    It can be upgraded into being one but not in its current state. (Korea is yet to receive stealth techs from Lockheed Martin)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Korea is yet to receive stealth techs from Lockheed Martin
      Korea is already working on its own stealth wingmans for KF-21, which are expected to have both IWB and EODAS. The technology derived from the development will later be used in the batch 2 of KF-21.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Burgerstan would be giving away F35s like candy by the time KF21 gets its block whatever 5th gen update.
    Meanwhile, other industrialized nations would already be rolling out 6th gen aircraft.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lmfao

      Dassault already announced it will take longer than 2050 to develop a 6th gen

      Britain and Japan realized they can't do it so they are trying to get their hands on as many F35s as possible and allocated a ridiculously tiny "symbolic" budget for a joint 6th gen collab that will never go beyond paper designs in order to pressure LM to sell them more F35s

      China and Russia "5th gen" would get blown out of the skies by a 1970s era F16, any claimed "gen" by these two frauds is instinctively discounted by 2 gens by anybody with an iq over 60, so a Chinese or Russian "6th gen" is probably realistically a true 4th gen

      Meanwhile SK goes from design to skies with the KF21 in 5 years

      The only real players in combat jets today are the US and SK

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't SEA monkeys be like Malaysia and also prove they can get f35s and Abrams.

    >t. Shitposting Ausfag.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be like Malaysia
      why would anyone want to be like them?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What the vast majority of /k tards don't realize is that the head-to-head of KF21 and F35 versus adversaries are overwhelmingly in the KF21's advantage, this is available to countries that have budgets to acquire either, what is not overtly known within the mic circles is how they would perform against each other but given how tightly this information is being held at the highest levels of weapons procurement its heavily implied and widely recognized that the KF21 is superior

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So, vatnigs went from shilling Russian gear, to shilling the Gripen, and now to worse Korean gear? Must really hurt your pride to have to shill bug gear.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Still buying the KF21

    If anything, these troll post on /k just endorses how good this 5th gen fighter is

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let’s be real kf21 is the latest in combat jets of course its going to be the best

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do people keep calling it a budget F-35? Its nickname is "baby raptor". The KF-21 is a budget F-22.
    SK has no need for a F-35 clone atm. They have one of the biggest F-35 fleets in the world currently. What they need is air superiority, not more multirole.
    Why do you think that lockheed is so invested into KAI? The KF-21 is literally the F-22 export version that everyone has been waiting for. Cant compare to the F-22 but can mog everything else. Its tailor made to be exported to NATO and NATO allies for this express purpose.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Smartest post itt

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who the hell calls it a budget F-35?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Comparing KF21 to F35 is like comparing a porsche 911 versus a ford f150 raptor.

      KF21 is a budget F22. The F22 is never going to be exported and as this anon noted its why LM is invested in the KF21 with KAI.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Purely based on looks, KF-21 is more striking than any of its competitors

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're a thirdie located in such hot zone that you need a stealth fighter you already lost. The only market left for anything that isn't a F35 or mystery russo/chinkshit is LatAm and that pretty much leaves only the f16, gripen and rafale as the remaining options.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this entire thread
    >actually shilling on PrepHole

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It gets boring in the Lockmart offices. We just want to talk about fighter jets, please no bully.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is why western europe is afraid of russia, let's be real western europe simply can't war anymore

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn’t this a trainer with a body kit?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope that is the FA50 which is the F16 replacement

      The OP pic is the KF21, a budget F22, mogs the F35 though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The OP pic is the KF21, a budget F22,
        It's an overpriced F-16.
        >mogs the F35 though
        No, it doesn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its called the "baby raptor" by the mic industry regardless of what your video game says gay

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >source: dude trust me

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >by the mic industry
            Since when is worse Korea the "MIC industry"?
            >regardless of what your video game says gay
            >delivery date: 2027+
            Might as well be a video game plane, moron mutt.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wut? Do you seriously don't know about Korea's mic?
              >overpriced f-16
              F-16 is much more pricey than KF-21 and LM is closing down its production lines after 2030s, the only remaining options for an affordable fighter jet by then will be FA-50 block 20, KF-21, and beat to shit second hand F-16. Which is why the philippines is seeking to be one of the 1st customers for KF-21, because there really isn't much option.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I read that current F-16V lines are jampacked due to Taiwank and the other NATO countries giving Ukraine their old Soviet Chairforce.

                If a country wants F-16Vs they'll have to wait for a long time.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    someone post panegirls esp. cute f35

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All I got

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have an F-35 in Japan.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Current iterations of the KF-21 aren't stealth. Only later variants, not due for another decade or more, will have proper stealth.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the future of dogfighting is over-the-horizon so we will make our plane stealthy and slow!
    >gets spotted
    >gets engaged
    Wat do? Is the F-35 fucked if it needs to battle it out?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gets spotted first
      By what, satellite overwatch?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don’t play dumb, every modern engagement has had the issue of seeing unidentified planes that require a pass to identify first. You’re never going to know where all planes are at all times and who is flying where

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You actually can, that's the point of highly networked air fleets.
          >not a network member? must be an enemy
          >fwoosh goes the AMRAAM

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