Canibal Solar Storm preparing and surviving.

How fricked are we if this solar flare actually fries the grid and peoples personal electronics? Could any countries with hardened grids or just dumb luck exploit this storm in a first strike scenario?

Apparently Eotech's holographics are gonna survive but I dunno about everything else. Regardless I'm sure old ACOG's will become quite popular again.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't this more of a question for PrepHole?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This board has more PrepHole posters than PrepHole.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *refugees

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *refugees

        I have actually never been to PrepHole.
        What was it like and how is it now?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Now it's yet another /x/ full of /misc/gays and schizos.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            PrepHole like a cancer of this website.
            A tumor that is slowly killing it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Now it's yet another /x/ full of /misc/gays and schizos.

              its the third world arriving on mobile data not /misc/ which is now just another vatBlack person herded schitzo hive like glp or ats

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe, if we assume that demographics of the site match those of PrepHole, then you are correct.
                However, I do not think so and I think it is more of a cultural thing that is happening than anything.
                This website filters for your political opinions, not your nationality, IMO.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ahem. You have never actually experienced what places like India or Africa are like or what happens when online or off line they develop critical mass of moronation. The average IQ in India is in the 80s as it is in sub Saharan Africa etc. Genetics, childhood malnutrition, poor material healthcare and prenatal services, poor diet who knows. Dumb as a bag of rocks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                While IQ is often preferred in discussions about intellect, it has limitations, particularly in areas such as comprehension, making it not entirely precise for a comprehensive evaluation. Nevertheless, the ranking is as follows, where India occupies 138th position with a score of 76.24.
                Source:
                https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/travel/destinations/revealed-worlds-smartest-nations-know-indias-rank/photostory/107187581.cms

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah if it was summer we might have been getting a better view on the right wobble but wasn't to be this time.

                [...]
                Looks awesome, I've seen greens and oranges but not that purple and magenta colours

                Got to see it last night, lads.
                My mates in the city couldn't see shit but I live out in the desert and had a good time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Got to see it last night, lads.
                >My mates in the city couldn't see shit but I live out in the desert and had a good time.
                good for you, light pollution ruined it for me I remember proper dark nights.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know what happens, I lost my homeboard to them, PrepHole during its Golden Age.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                While IQ is often preferred in discussions about intellect, it has limitations, particularly in areas such as comprehension, making it not entirely precise for a comprehensive evaluation. Nevertheless, the ranking is as follows, where India occupies 138th position with a score of 76.24.
                Source:
                https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/travel/destinations/revealed-worlds-smartest-nations-know-indias-rank/photostory/107187581.cms

                I've lived in India and China for work for a few months at a time and its kind of staggering the amount of fricking cretins running around. Indian's are sort of the worlds greatest useful idiots in that they'll say or do anything you want to hear in order to keep their job, while Chinese are often just incapable of any type of lateral thought processes or long term consequence planning when it comes to activities. Its almost like self-centred, ultra narcissism is tuned up to illegal levels in both in that they'd both kind of look at your dead arse in the office and not have to think twice about nicking the contents of your wallet, your phone and watch before scampering off like rats with some kind of 'well he doesn't need it anymore!' approach to life.
                I didn't know the Indians are in the high 70's or low 80's though
                That's pretty fricking scary, like in the army in peacetime during recruiting they basically do an IQ test on people to check how moronic you are and at about 84-85 you're essentially not fit for service, we just simply cannot teach you anything meaningful or useful to service, fast enough that it will sink in to actually be worth anyone's time to do. Normally that kind of percentile of the 80 and lower I think from memory is about 15% of the population in most western countries, they usually make up a good part of the criminally delinquent, unskilled labour and too fricking dumb for anything approaching an office job.

                Worryingly, that usefulness of the last 15% is being marginalised every year as in the west, actual meaningful employment for them is drying up and we'll have a fair old chunk of the population that is simply not mentally equipped to deal with anything more than throwing sacks on pallets, shitposting on social media and becoming 1-man crimewaves from time to time. Dunno what the frick we're going to do with them

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I've actually been in court where a man from Pakistan was on trial for following a woman with downs syndrome and raping her. He was not larping but actually moronic. His defense was that he had realized he was too stupid to succeed in the country and wanted to go home. He wound up in a mental institution indefinitely. The scary thing is is not actually the first case like that there have been several

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just to clarify, I'm not being dismissive of handicapped folks. For a fair while I used to volunteer in a local organisation to help out people with intellectual and physical disabilities, mostly just to make myself feel a bit better about my life after killing frickloads of people on deployments. So its a serious issue that people at some point need to address and adjust society to make a place for people not running 100% and make sure there's enough useful and functional activities that contribute constructively to society as a whole.

                Because looking at it like say the average western country is probably got most people in that 90-100 range, 15% are bouncing a bit higher into the 105-120 IQ percentile and you'll have 15% into the 70-85 IQ percentile that are sort of a bit broken to some very busted units!
                >But if you're looking at 80 being the baseline
                Well shit, that means barely 15% is technically 'normal' in the 90-100 IQ, but there's also 15% that might be in the high-60's to low 70's percentiles that are no fricking good and need constant supervision because they'll have forgotten what you told them to do by lunchtime and won't have any idea or concept of self-starting to unfrick their situation now they've forgotten everything!
                >The worst part
                >Because it always gets worse in the 3rd world...
                On average, all the busted units wobbling around looking at shiny things in their spare time, they're going to be supervised by people are by technical definitions 'Sub Normal' and if that's not enough to give you nightmares- there's literally 10's of millions of them!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its not really relevant what you think about IDs (intellectually disabled). I've spent a few years working in that area and I personally think it would be much better for them if they were safely in well funded institutions instead of all the money being siphoned off for 'care in the community' where they wind up alone in dangerous areas being robbed and abused by drug dealers. That to one side, ISs in western nations typically have a pre natal condition of which there are many including the consequences of the mother being an addict etc. My experience with south east asian immigrants from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh is that they are not intellectually disabled via that mechanism but are in fact of the typical intellectual level of that region and in their own societies would be considered average. They are quite conscious of the fact they cannot function when they do arrive as illegal immigrants the additional language and the natural pressures of a foreign and more advanced nation place them in a position of knowing that it is not racism but they are actually incapable even Vs the dumbest local criminals. They will try and kidnap children to get into prision because they think they will be fed there and end up getting beaten within an edge of their life repeatedly for being foreign nonces (the ones with a nose flat to their face and dentures because all their teeth have been broken). Most Hindus and Muslims, the vast majority from that region have barely any ability to recognize patterns in numbers or letters or shapes, even if allowed practice and are physically small and weak (barely over five feet and pot bellied) they find timetables for busses and routes, calendars etc a real struggle. Most genuinely believe a printed piece of paper is a degree and if they print a piece of paper or pay someone to, that means they DO have a degree. I can't think of any use for these people, they are far to stupid to work safely in a McDonalds for example.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                samegay, Just to add, one of the common things to teach the intellectually disabled is what clothes to choose for the weather, at the average IQ in India of 70-80 that's a real mental challenge "Its raining so I must wear a coat but I will wear my flip flops and shorts" for example. I laugh when I hear people talking about India or Pakistan industrializing, these people are useless even in manufacturing jobs. As regards China, I think Nixon was wrong. Democracies should not be engaged in ANY cooperation with communist dictatorships,economic or otherwise.

                I'm more of the opinion that sheltered workshops and other environments are good institutions to have in that it offsets the cost of support by having disabled people-
                >get into a constructive routine
                >have some dignity of earning
                >a degree of supervision and support
                So in that way we're not wiping out 15% o our population as being completely dependant on the state if we can say, offset their support by maybe 50% or so by having them being productive, contributing members of society and ultimately for a lot of them, that will mean they're also contributing to the economy to some level. That is doable if you have the baseline being in that 90-100IQ set of normalcy and are financially capable of sparing the cash to put into a community in order to make a long term investment on that part of society who needs support.
                For the severely disabled, they'll always need full time, 100% support and that's just life

                Places like the subcontinent, I'm going with the too hard and chuck it in the frickit bucket
                There's too many people, too many dumb dumbs and no money or inclination to bring the people and country out of the nightmare of being a bucket of crabs with a very deep layer of shit below the rim. Anyone with a brain gets the frick out of there by hook, crook or flat out murder and leaves the country, Afghanistan was very much like that in that the Soviets killed and wiped out the politically active, the intelligensia and the critical thinkers. A few escaped but after the genocide, there just wasn't that bulk of people with the smarts to teach others, have smart kids or improve the country with constructive efforts. That meant by the time we ended up there 20 years later, the country was already dumb frick dirt farmers and morons.
                India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are more or less the same
                No one smart sticks around, but the sheer gravity of cretins is now inescapable, they've gone past the point of no return

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm more of the opinion that sheltered workshops and other environments are good institutions to have in that it offsets the cost of support by having disabled people-
                No one wants the good they produce and its juts more graft for people who use the intellectually disabled as cash flow, just like the care in the community. I've seen several workshops like that and the amount of money that could go to give them a warm flat to live in with their mother an good food and clothes that ends up being robbed by the kind of people who run those schemes. Its not safe to put these people on public transport and streets in areas where there is high crime. Personally I think my nation should immediately detain any one coming from India, Pakistan etc and offer them a budget direct flight back or a one way trip[ to the mid Atlantic. There is only one consequence of importing hundreds of thousands of simpletons and idiot tier frauds from a hellhole, that is they bring the hellhole with them. I have also worked in academia and I have never known an Indian/Pakistani postgraduate student who was doing the course for any reason other than buying a visa and every single one cheated routinely and I have no doubt also had no qualification to even be on the course. The Universities take them because they can charge them so much more. Absolute disaster for any society that lets them in.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm from the make useful things with very limited means part of the education system, but my missus is the academic with the much brain big thinks when it comes to legal and philosophical problem solving. So I tend to err on the side of trying, rather than giving an abstract throw money at a problem and just write it off as a loss. Which we do have a problem with in my country with fraudulent claiming on disability services and claims that is quite frankly, a real monster that just as a layman I'd see some kind of regular auditing and accounting put in place to dissuade it as much as possible.
                You're always going to have a bit of loss but every bit counts that isn't wasted

                On the upside, most student visa's from Pakistan, Nepal, India and China are basically not being issued here. The government got sick of their bullshit and just decided most of them were too much trouble as they're 'not students' and just some degenerates that seem to slip in here for whatever sketchy shit they get up to

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >On the upside, most student visa's from Pakistan, Nepal, India and China are basically not being issued here. The government got sick of their bullshit and just decided most of them were too much trouble as they're 'not students' and just some degenerates that seem to slip in here for whatever sketchy shit they get up to

                It's part the point where students from India and china just have to be declined because of the culture of cheating and lying. I was just talking to someone working with migrants who are living in tents (they try and inform them about schemes to get travel home paid) they give them bottled water, they empty the water out of the bottle and then fill it from a dirty canal. They were given tinned food a few days ago and one of them had to go to a hospital to have fragments of a food can removed from their face and hands because they put it in a fire to heat unopened and it exploded. They are actual morons and no one who has experience with aid work in Africa or places like India will say any different. There was a several indians/pakistanis/bangladeshis last year that was brought to hospital who had been eating stones and discarded wrappers (a condition very common with intellectual disability, picking up and eating items from the ground compulsively). They are actually moronic, people mostly don't know this. It may even be their villages/families are paying to get rid of them. I don't know.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its not really relevant what you think about IDs (intellectually disabled). I've spent a few years working in that area and I personally think it would be much better for them if they were safely in well funded institutions instead of all the money being siphoned off for 'care in the community' where they wind up alone in dangerous areas being robbed and abused by drug dealers. That to one side, ISs in western nations typically have a pre natal condition of which there are many including the consequences of the mother being an addict etc. My experience with south east asian immigrants from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh is that they are not intellectually disabled via that mechanism but are in fact of the typical intellectual level of that region and in their own societies would be considered average. They are quite conscious of the fact they cannot function when they do arrive as illegal immigrants the additional language and the natural pressures of a foreign and more advanced nation place them in a position of knowing that it is not racism but they are actually incapable even Vs the dumbest local criminals. They will try and kidnap children to get into prision because they think they will be fed there and end up getting beaten within an edge of their life repeatedly for being foreign nonces (the ones with a nose flat to their face and dentures because all their teeth have been broken). Most Hindus and Muslims, the vast majority from that region have barely any ability to recognize patterns in numbers or letters or shapes, even if allowed practice and are physically small and weak (barely over five feet and pot bellied) they find timetables for busses and routes, calendars etc a real struggle. Most genuinely believe a printed piece of paper is a degree and if they print a piece of paper or pay someone to, that means they DO have a degree. I can't think of any use for these people, they are far to stupid to work safely in a McDonalds for example.

                samegay, Just to add, one of the common things to teach the intellectually disabled is what clothes to choose for the weather, at the average IQ in India of 70-80 that's a real mental challenge "Its raining so I must wear a coat but I will wear my flip flops and shorts" for example. I laugh when I hear people talking about India or Pakistan industrializing, these people are useless even in manufacturing jobs. As regards China, I think Nixon was wrong. Democracies should not be engaged in ANY cooperation with communist dictatorships,economic or otherwise.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Covid steadily killed it because the majority of the board aligned with the measures, but were browbeaten by repeated failures of the measures and a lack of conclusive evidence to their necessity. Then Ukraine happened and they all came here because we formed a rivalry with /misc/ due to being the de facto pro-Ukraine board. Now PrepHole is full of what are essentially victory lap threads from those who chased off the refugees to here.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My euromed shithole still won't see it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We got a bit robbed on the Aurora Australis
          Canadia should have a pretty good light show though

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sadge. Msm was fricking hyping up actually getting to see an Australian aurora. And the weekend storms in Vic and Tassie had even cleared up so you can see the sky.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah if it was summer we might have been getting a better view on the right wobble but wasn't to be this time.

              https://i.imgur.com/ctU80Qb.jpeg

              Last night in northern Germany.

              Nothing will happen. If you had the slightest understanding of the matter you would know.

              Looks awesome, I've seen greens and oranges but not that purple and magenta colours

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tfw just a bit too far to the south

          [...]
          I have actually never been to PrepHole.
          What was it like and how is it now?

          It used to be a circlejerk for math majors and home to regular science vs religion threads, now it's more like /schizo/. Also has a bunch of particularly moronic namegays.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >if this solar flare actually fries the grid and peoples personal electronics?
    I'll finally be free from this hellscape

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You'll come back, (spiritually).... Yeah PrepHole will still be toast and a mere legend you'll tell your kids about but the need to shitpost won't go away. Don't forget the ancient Romans had anonymous message boards too anon.

      can you stop posting about shitty red dots for one fricking minute

      No

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can you stop posting about shitty red dots for one fricking minute

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gonna steam some ham radios.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      boomers will need to find new hobbies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Aurora Borealis at your place once in the ages
      >it's cloud cover

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's not how any of this shit works, anon.
    Literally nothing will happen that isn't solved within hours.
    I mean, I think the Mormons had the right idea of having three months worth of shit stocked up, and the US gov site has a list of shit you should have at the bare minimum to check out, but if this turns out to be an actual world disaster, I'll slam a bolt or slide home on my nip.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As someone on the other side of the world were this happened, our streets are full of fricking morons, the wildlife wants to kill us, the media has gone completely insane, our politicians are going to be the death of us all and my internet was a bit slow a few hours ago.
    But that's just Australia normally

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Send me a teen Margot Robbie clone.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If there's a place in Australia full of people that attractive, I'm the furthest away from it
        About the best I can do is a box of poisonous spiders

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but are they the fast dodgy and jump up your arm kind? I don't really wanna deal with that honestly. Just send me a box jelly instead.

          >How fricked are we if this solar flare actually fries the grid and peoples personal electronics?
          We are not, these things are being monitored percisely because a solar flare could disable the grid.

          Preventing damage caused by a solar flare is easy, either just turn of the grid for a while or ahve it run at minimum capacity.
          As for personal electrictronics, nothing will happen with them. They are insulated already against much more mundane and much more often occuring things.

          I hope your right but I've got some flash drives and a SSD locked away in a faraday cage just in case.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can-can I have the spiders please?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What are you in Darwin?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How fricked are we if this solar flare actually fries the grid and peoples personal electronics?
    We are not, these things are being monitored percisely because a solar flare could disable the grid.

    Preventing damage caused by a solar flare is easy, either just turn of the grid for a while or ahve it run at minimum capacity.
    As for personal electrictronics, nothing will happen with them. They are insulated already against much more mundane and much more often occuring things.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Preventing damage caused by a solar flare is easy, either just turn of the grid for a while or ahve it run at minimum capacity.
      We're so fricked because if COVID has taught me anything it's that the government might have plans for emergencies, but it doesn't act on them meaningfully or with any viable compliance.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think powerplants and power grid management has autonomy over these things.
        Don't worry, these days, if you tought of a problem the likelyhood of someone qualified to adress this problem has already tought of it.
        Im sure that things like solar flares and solar flare damage prevention are taught to technicians and engineers who then wotk the power grid.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Don't worry, these days, if you tought of a problem the likelyhood of someone qualified to address this problem has already tought of it.
          I want to stable this to the face of every redditor/youtuber/PrepHolener/general internet spaz on earth.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are free to take a screenshot fren.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We're so fricked because if COVID has taught me anything it's that the government might have plans for emergencies, but it doesn't act on them meaningfully or with any viable compliance.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The main issue with COVID is primarily a supply chain issue.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Preventing damage caused by a solar flare is easy, either just turn of the grid for a while or ahve it run at minimum capacity
      This pretty much wrong, but solar flares are pretty much a non-issue at the grid level. The threat they present to electronics is due to inducing current on a conductive material. On small, sensative electronics, this will quickly either overwhelm and insulation or airgaps meant to separate conductors, and they'll short, or cause so much heating due to the conductors natural resistance that connections will fail, and they have few to no protection against this.
      Induced voltage and current are know factors in electrical grid design, as are voltage surges from things like lightning or things like tree branches shorting from subtransmission to distribution lines when they're built on the same poles.
      What would happen if there was another Carrington Event level flair on a modern electrical grid
      >Metering Transformers at substation detect unexpected rise of voltage and current on transmission lines connected to station
      >grid controller or automatic protection system open circuit breakers to protect the substation equipment (mainly the transformers)
      >Lightning Arrestors connected to line blow, and dump the induced current into the ground
      All that would have to be done to bring the station back online is to replace the lightning arrestors or temporarily bypass them. They're typically attached by a tap off the main line with bolted connection.
      t. anon who builds substations

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Personal electronics are too small for anything like an EMP or solar storm to affect them. Hell, even airliners wouldn't be affected that much (besides some nav/comm equipment going haywire for a bit; no one is falling out of the sky at any rate).

    Power grids can be prepared, and failing that repaired within reasonable timeframes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      THE STRONGEST X-FLARE YET: Giant sunspot AR3664 unleashed another X-flare today (May 11th @ 0139 UT)--its strongest yet. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory captured a bright ultravolet flash from the category X5.8 explosion:
      Radiation from the flare caused a deep shortwave radio blackout over the Pacific Ocean. Ham radio operators and mariners may have noticed loss of signal at frequencies below 30 MHz for as much as an hour after the flare's peak.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that's affecting shortwave radio which by the nature of its mechanism (literally bouncing signals off of the ionosphere) is being strongly affected. Absolutely nothing is happening to the actual electronics of the radios.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >porn collection status: hardened

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Last night in northern Germany.

    Nothing will happen. If you had the slightest understanding of the matter you would know.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nothing will happen. If you had the slightest understanding of the matter you would know.
      You are fundamentally correct friend however it is always possible that in places that have poorly run electrical grids, such as south africa or run down poorly maintained ones that there will be some power outages as there were in 2003

      "An extreme geomagnetic storm in 2003, for example, took out power in Sweden and damaged power transformers in South Africa."

      This could be true where a private company in a US state or somewhere in the UK has under invested or solely just bad management. Such an outage might be so normal in parts of Russia, Africa or Northern China or areas of Brazil or India that it might not even be considered anything worth noting. Similarly with increased voltage on old circuit switched pots systems, old pipe systems etc etc in such marginal nations. Consider that a lot of the wiring in brazil for example or India is stolen from other buildings via illegal connections and the entire grid is essentially undocumented.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Increasing the base frequency is not that hard to deal with when it comes to power grids. A far bigger issue would be a significant drop.
        If you don’t live in a slumhole, the entire thing is a non issue.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw it last night and it was fricking beautiful, sat on my balcony silently saying "holy living frick" every few minutes.
    Anyway it won't collapse the grid, the strongest flare from the sunspot is an X5.8 which doesn't even make it into the top 10. The Carrington Event was roughly an X45 flare, so thay was barely 0.01% as strong (scale is logarithmic)

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We'd be fricked, but not as fricked as when the Committee of 300 releases the BHB.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    61607143
    i miss when /x/ was about UFOs and shit...

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >peoples personal electronics?
    why would it do this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The interaction with the Sun's plasma & Earth's atmosphere can generate electrical charges in anything that carries electricity. In one sense, think about how a nuclear EMP can send a pulse trough electronics which vastly exceeds their design. Also, think about it like a static electricity charge. The end result is that a pulse (or pulses) of electricity can run through anything that conducts electricity. If it's a large enough charge for what it's running through, then it cooks. Can happen on a macro or micro scale, anything not shielded &/or grounded heavily enough is vulnerable. Look how a step-up/step-down transformer works, it's a similar transfer of energy into anything that can conduct. Some things are more efficient than others. You'll find out which is which when it stops working, possible even with a visible or audible electric discharge.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And of course nothing has happened, is happening and will happen. Shtf larpers eternally btfod once again.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wilde Jagd gets postponed again
      bit sad innit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >And of course nothing has happened, is happening and will happen.
      But.... what if it does? It's like when a Christian tells you that if there's nothing after death then they have nothing to worry about, but if there is a God then YOU probably need to worry. You have no comeback that isn't balls-out cope.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What if you're worshipping the wrong god dumdum, there's more than one option out there.
        That isn't an Either/Or thought.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >falling for Pascal's wager
        Did your brain stop developing in 7th grade?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you have no comeback that isn't balls out cope
        If you're a complete brainlet who can't into basic probability and risk analysis, I suppose that might be the case.
        Think motherfricker, do you wear plates and NODs every time you go take a leak?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >actually fries the grid
    It could cause some damage but there's enough fast shutdown and protection that it wouldn't fry the grid at this point. The REAL issue people don't understand is how fricking hard it is to do a cold RESTART of the grid. Big power plants actually need the grid itself for startup, both powering and for demand, they need somewhere for the power they're generating to go, instantly. So there's a huge complex dance in bringing up tiny stuff, then some grid demand parts, then somewhat bigger stuff, then somewhat more demand, etc etc. If the entire grid was shut down, like, for 30 seconds, it could literally take weeks to months to bring it back online completely.

    That'd definitely be a pain, though with ever more distributed power storage and generation probably less so then even 20 years ago. And knowing that the grid was going to be coming back up for sure would affect people's outlooks and actions. It would cost a lot of money though.
    >and peoples personal electronics
    Not a thing. You're thinking very high powered nuclear EMP. Electromagnetic pulse effects are divided into E1, E2, and E3. E1 can only be done with energetic fast events on the level of a nuke, though it'd also do the others. E2 can happen from stuff like lightning. E3 is geomagnetic storms, it's a slow long lasting pulse. It affects very long run conductive materials, not just wire but also piping. But by "long run" we're talking tens/hundreds of miles, not inches let alone nanometers. It's not going to bother electronics at all (I mean, beyond bulk effects if there was a power surge and electronics were grid connected with no surge protection).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      interdasting
      thank you for the effortpost Anon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No prob, I have thought about it and researched it somewhat. I guess I don't want to understate things either, it wouldn't be a nothingburger, and there's a major luck component in effects due to seasonal stuff. There's times of years that would be relatively better (no agriculture harvests, pleasant weather) and times where losing power would be a big risk for lots of people right away (extreme cold). And of course some people depend on powered devices for their health but aren't self-powered. It'd be a mess. But it wouldn't be the apocalypse either, and that self-reinforces. People aren't going to accept a new world order when they can see stuff steadily being restored in real time, and will be angry at anyone getting in the way.

        America also has a few more minor things in its arsenal for that kind of response, for example our nuclear aircraft carriers would be 100% unaffected. Defense is obvious, but also they can sail to a lot of cities and supply some power/water/command/logistics that will last years. We've got more options and reserves then a lot of countries do to help bootstrap.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >But by "long run" we're talking tens/hundreds of miles, not inches let alone nanometers. It's not going to bother electronics at all (I mean, beyond bulk effects if there was a power surge and electronics were grid connected with no surge protection).
      I'll add that for this reason there's no inherent impact on solar panels, wind turbines, or batteries either. Or classic old fuel generators. So if you're off grid nothing would change. But if you're connected to the grid with the ability to go off grid (like I am) I suppose there's some risk if there was a big enough grid pulse, though I think in most cases the big transformers we all have would be what fried and took that before it reached our house boxes.

      Also, for obvious safety/maintenance reasons all such systems have big hard grid cut off switches. So if worried or advised you can just go out and pull that anyway.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Explain in your own words how a solar storm would fry the gid or personal electronics, please.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Solar storms and generally EMPs will fry older electronics and the power grid as they can "catch" more of the energy. The newer electronics have circuitry that is much to small for these types of events to damage them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would you mind explaining how exactly the power grid gets damaged or destroyed by a solar storm?

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It happened yesterday, we're still here.
    Frick.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we're still here.
      Half my family and friends are dead from all the power converters violently exploding and spitting magnetic fragments everywhere and the whole neighborhood is on fire. Where the frick do you live butthole? The South Pole? Some log cabin out in the middle of nowhere Idaho? Shits fricked where I am.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let it go, anon. Nothing happened to your converters.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well that's a massive solar flare off the list along with Russia in a hot war in Europe and a pandemic and peak oil as plausible prepper doom. Not much left at this point.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Had a cloudy night again like every single fricking night when there's an interesting celestial phenomenon going on.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also here. Pretty much every significant & interesting celestial display for the last ten years (or more) has been a cloudy night. Haven't even seen the Perseids for a decade, something I used to lay out for and watch every Summer for two or three nights in a row.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wow, bummer. I feel like this last two months has used up my space weather luck for a lifetime practically but still worth it. Normally norther VT and NH are cloudy as frick all april and most of May, yet to everyone's surprise we had perfect conditions for the solar eclipse, and the clouds cleared up again Friday for the aurora. It was amazing.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The worst that happens is that some cities that are in the wrong spot and unprepared (like that one place in Sweden in 2003) suffer some temporary blackouts for a bit. Personal electronics are fine, its just the power grid with all the cables and transformers and shit that comes under some threat, and even that hardly ever leads to anything since we have learned how to better protect and deal with that kind of thing. NOAA’s entire job is to monitor the sun specifically for anomalies like that to prepare in advance. Maybe in shitholes like China or India (or South Africa kek) this might be a problem, but like with nearly everything else thats simply an issue with the people there, not the tech itself. Regardless we’ve come a long way from the days of telegram lines during Carrington, and if you still think ZOMG DA INTERNET GUN B EE EM PAYD BY SONNE by now then you’re the same type of cattle brained Black person that spazzed out over 2012.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The apocalypse nuts overplay it, but you're underplaying it anon. Worth noting that the ground truth here is we just don't have much to go on. Serious CMEs actually hitting Earth are very rare, we only have 3 to go on in the (granted relatively short) history of when we've had anything electrical: 1859, 1921, and a moderate one in 1989. We understand the basic physics, and can make some extrapolations from there, but it's a classic black swan event that most people have never really thought about. It'd be unusual and surprising if a ton of money had been spent hardening everything everywhere, and indeed it hasn't. Same as with nuclear, we did it when there was a threat, but we've slacked since the 90s onward because it's cheaper and easier to have less redundancy.

      So if we had another truly big one, I expect it would cause a fair amount of disruption. Undersea cables rarely have any protection there, neither does oil and gas piping, and grids are complex things. The "worst that can happen" is much worse then what you're saying, not unrecoverable at all but a real pain in the ass. Doesn't help we've let a lot of infrastructure and knowledge on it decay.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably already said in this thread but a geomagnetic storm doesn't work like an emp. a Mass coronal ejection would but to my knowledge there really isn't any correlation between the two. Worst comes to worse GPS is fricked up for a few days. Which would be really bad but not the end of the world.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unless it's a Carrington Event level CME we're fine.

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