Can we talk about gun minimalism?

Can we talk about gun minimalism? I'm relatively new to firearm ownership, have a pretty generous hobby budget and I'm trying to not go overboard with frivolous purchases as I have in other hobbies in the past - I don't want to end up with a bunch of shit to resell. What in your eyes constitutes gun minimalism and quality over quantity?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Buy what you want and sooner rather than later, frick what twink rex thinks he doesn't live in an awb state

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not necessarily using the attached image as a guiding principle or anything but it seems more beneficial to develop a skill/experienced based practice like shooting on a handful of proven systems rather than just buying things because they look cool. I want to become proficient, not collect stuff.

      >gun minimalism
      >dump 300000 accessories onto one gun that cost the same as 5 other guns
      it's shit

      What in the bottom half of the picture do you deem as needless or excessive?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So you want to purposefully suck any joy you could derive out of the hobby and train up on shooting just to be a good shooter? Sounds kinda pointless dawg.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I guess I've had the most fun moreso in the style of shooting that I've got to do. Night shooting and long distance stuff has been a lot of fun for me. Otherwise yes. I narrowed my own list of future purchases to:
          • A quality lower + recce upper/sbr upper
          • An intermediate range .308
          • A carry 9mm
          • A 'duty' 9mm better suited for use with a can

          Maybe one day I would want to get a longer distance rifle.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          gay

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anyone who talks about having 'fun' instead of getting good at something is just making excuses.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You’re gay

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you will never be an oper8r kiddo

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Alternatively, I can buy things that look cool…because I want to buy things that look cool.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Right now, "Twink rex" is running around on a range he owns that is set up nice AF blasting piles of ammo thru loads of cool as guns. You will never be able to afford even his nylon bill, all you can do is post salt to internet forums because that costs nothing.
      But on the topic of shit other than you, this sort of guidance coming from Lucas is hilarious because he himself owns 100s and 100s of guns he is about as far from an authority on minimalism as it gets.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Simping for guntubers is a new low, even for (you).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Does he really own it if daddy’s money bought it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Shut up, Lucas. You will never be an oper8r

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >nice AF
        stopped reading there, opinion discarded

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        frick off Lucas having money doesn't make you less of a twink homosexual

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >gun minimalism
    >dump 300000 accessories onto one gun that cost the same as 5 other guns
    it's shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You'll dump that amount into each gun unless you're buying milsurp or collection pieces. Fact of the matter is most gun guys today are buying service grade rifles and pistols and spending three times the guns price on dressing them up, while carrying and using none of them since they're comfortable soft suburbanites and not in any violent line of work. And even in a SHTF, you can only use one gun at a time, unless you think you'll be arming neighbors and friends with your arsenal, in which case you get what you deserve when an anti-social moron weirdo boogaloo poorgay who couldn't spend a few dollars on canned food thinks he can get away with shooting you through your window and raping your family. I mean, he'll get away with it for a while but when the order is restored he'll just rot in prison. But you'll be dead and he'll get to pretend to be Rick from the walking dead.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >using none of them since they're comfortable soft suburbanites and not in any violent line of work
        You didnt have to call /arg/ out like that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You say its about the 2nd amendment than just consoomer the frick out of owning guns.

      Get shit you can use to actually fight. Get gear that can save your life. Get food and maybe build a Greenhouse to grow food in so you can actually win the war against the commies

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        carry gun in 9mm - glock19
        556 fighting rifle - AR15
        utility shotgun in 12g
        .22 lr plinker and training pistol - for fundamentals
        something bolt action scoped and long range

        Once those are properly outfitted with lights, slings and optics that covers all gun "needs". I'd argue you should own thermal, NV, armor, 10s of thousands of rounds, a battle belt and chest rig before you own a double digit number of firearms.

        >t. I'm gonna die in a shootout with the feds
        >is an accountant that lives in the suburbs

        Different people can and should have different goals for firearm ownership. If it's to collect, plink, defend oneself, go innawoods, competitions, unnagroun, defend your family, or be prepared for the habbening, it's all /k/.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >2 meme ars and a glock
    grim

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I guess this is what I'm asking. If you have to limit your collection to a handful of weapons systems - what are you keeping?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What are your goals? Self defense? Hunting? Plinking?
        If I had to limit myself to just a couple of guns, I'd have a concealed carry weapon (I lean towards pocket carrying a small .38 special these days) and a hunting rifle in .308.
        It's nice to own ARs and stuff, but those two are the ones I use in the "real world"
        I'd also like to have a 22lr bolt rifle around too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The basic shooter that doesn’t collect for the sake of it really shouldn’t need more than three guns. Pistol, rifle, shotgun. Add in a cc pistol and a bigger cartridge flat shooting bolt action for precision style shooting.
        >Beretta APX
        Doesn’t jam but aftermarket support sucks
        >Remington 870
        Cheap, got a rifled barrel for deer season for $30, and I like where the safety is better than the Mossberg
        >AR-15
        Aero M4E1 build to mag dump deer. Also have an M&P sport for a shorter barrel HD weapon
        >CC Pistol
        I got an FN Reflex for my birthday and I carry it but rarely shoot it over the Beretta
        >Precision Bolt Action
        Bergara B-14 in 6.5 CM with a Vortex on top. Good durr rifle but I’d got with .308 or 300 Win Mag if I could do it over again.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn’t jam
          All semi auto guns will eventually jam

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I’ve jammed my bolt action and revolver too, all mechanical things have the potential for failure.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            While technically true I’ve never faced this issue with the APX and I treat it like absolute shit. Obviously revolvers have even less likelihood of a malfunction but also come with obvious drawbacks.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My APX has been my primary carry since 2017. I have one of the first 2000 made. Never a problem and have beat the shit out of it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ex-Infantry and Executive Protection moron here. My least used gun has to be my AR15 or AKs. They're fun but they're extremely unnecessary in my daily life. Even when the post demanded a rifle, it still sat in a car or guard shack and the gun that was actually quickly and readily available to me was my duty gun either AIWB or in a duty holster. In a true SHTF I guess it'd be nice to have one, but only because every Doritos eating, loser, COD playing, edgy fat moron has bought one by now and you want to at least try to be on equal ground with them in regard to firepower. But again, this is ASSUMING an actual SHTF will take place where there is NO rule of law, and I don't think it will ever get that bad short of a meteorite striking earth.

        My most used gun is my compact 9mm handgun. I use it as duty gun, I use it for work, for CCW, and it's also my nightstand gun. The only gun I've had to actually aim at people. So I highly suggest a compact 9mm handgun as the #1 firearm to own. Other than that everything is subjective to an individuals likes and perceived needs.

        1. Do all handgun
        2. Rifle of your choice (if you believe you will ever get into a shootout with one I suppose)
        3. Everything else.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          would you choose the 9mm because it's something you're already familiar with through work requirements, or because it is objectively better?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Objectively better. In the military I was infantry so I only used an M16A4, all my pistol skills were developed in training classes, competition, qualifications, etc. Everyone worth their salt in the Spec Ops community (as try hard and gay as that sounds) is using 9mm handguns.

            9mm is big enough to disrupt the CNS, but small enough that it allows for a decent capacity within whatever gun you're carrying, and most importantly it's manageable recoil. Some will say that they can shoot calibers like 45acp and 10mm because they're "real men", but the measurable disruption and damage to tissue is almost non-existent between pistol calibers, so they'd be better served using a 9mm. If they're so good at controlling the recoil in a 10mm as they claim, they'd be doing 0.13 splits at 10 yards putting all bullet holes in a group the size of an orange. (Lol but they're not). Big calibers have their place but 99.9% of the time it's people who can't shoot trying to make up for the fact they can't shoot by choosing a bigger bullet thinking that if they get a flesh wound rather than a CNS shot, that somehow the target will get damaged by more "hit points" and thus die sooner. They're mistaken.

            And most importantly training is THE factor that matters. 9mm ammo is cheap and plentiful which allows for a bunch of quality training and competition shooting that will take your skills to the next level. You can listen to random morons on PrepHole, or you can listen to what all the highest level pros are doing right now.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I mean to be fair a bigger bullet would do more damage. but at that point you're talking Magnum and Big Game Revolver Cartridges.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              9mm is overpowered for regular people who do not need to neutralize threats. you can come up with a lot of seemingly rational hypotheticals where you need a larger amount of firepower, but i can just as easily counter those hypotheticals with the same argument in reverse about how 9mm is not powerful enough compared to 357 magnum, or 45, or any number of arguments backed with objective scientific data

              quite frankly i think carrying one of these around and not looking like some fanny pack wearing weekend warrior is going to do your survivability a lot better because you aren't going to be psychologically priming yourself to get into a gunfight with a sidearm. but what do i know?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I do not disagree with you. The average person would do just fine with a pocket gun. But a full size or compact 9mm (like G19/M&P size) can be a VERY capable weapon in the right hands. 30 round mags are usually available for them, and they can be modified to run like an Open Gun which basically turns it into a tiny Pistol Caliber Carbine in their shoot ability. In my line of work, I do have to carry a handgun and expect some more serious threats so I am rather biased in this regard. I also compete in USPSA furthering the bias where I'd like a holsterable gun that shoots well enough to be competitive against other competitive shooters.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >If you have to limit your collection to a handful of weapons systems - what are you keeping?
        Let's see (choosing only from the guns I already own) ...
        >A ccw is easily the most important gun one can own and I want something small enough that i'm never tempted to leave it behind - M&P Bodyguard 380
        >An interchangeable mag-fed semi-auto in an intermediate or full-power cartridge comes next, for home defence and living up to the true purpose of the 2nd amendment - AUG (an AR-15 is the obvious choice but I prefer my AUG)
        >I enjoy hunting, and I hunt both fowl and deer so a shotgun comes next (also ticks the skeet shooting box) - Benelli Monte Silver
        >The Bodyguard is smaller than I'd really like so I'll include a 2nd, slightly larger ccw - P365 (with a 15 round mag it'll do home defense too, even if I'd rather something larger for that)
        >I want a gun capable of better range than 5.56 - LMT MWS
        >Cheap training and introducing new shooters to the hobby is important - 10/22

        Shit question t b h. I want my milsurp. I want my lever gat. I want my mouse guns.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're going about it wrong. Fill out your hard needs. A concealed carry handgun, a home defense rifle. Finish them up, meaning get quality optics good lights, sling holster pistol red dot. Then once you have your bases covered, which includes ammo, then buy your fun stuff. You like old shit cool go for it, cold war era, milsurp wood bolties, etc. You do t have to limit it, that's the thing. You're missing context fool. This is a jab at the idiot "I can't afford a position 14/night force/ aimpont t2" crowd who have a shit ton of money tied up across 6 psa or bear creek armory rifles.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        10/22 takedown(teaching fundamentals, small game, fun)
        carry pistol of your choice, I don't get on with pistols too much(self defense, fun)
        16" ar15 in 5.56(medium game, BLM deterrent, fun)
        10.5" ar15 in 300 blackout with suppressor(dispatching wounded and rabid animals, fun)
        20" 308(medium/large game, long distance practice, fun)
        24" 300 win mag(large game, fun)
        Serbu semiauto 50 cal(Samson option for a glowBlack person raid, fun)
        Mossberg pump action 12 gauge(birds, dumpster defense, fun)

        Your interests and concerns may be different from mine but that's my list personally. Any one of these aside from the 10/22 would also be a reasonable home defense option depending on what your most comfortable with. Just keep in mind that a lot of people take this hobby way too seriously and forget it's way more fun to spend your money on ammo and making memories than the latest and greatest lpvo.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Is apistol grip mossberg overkill

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No? But the tang safety was made for a regular grip. Not the end of the world you just have to break your grip to operate the safety. An alternative is getting the Maverick 88 trigger group because it has the safety on there in the normal spot. And it drops into any Mossberg pump.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think it’s fricking moronic. You cannot figure out what you need without owning a lot of guns. There’s many different handguns out there, contrary to instagram/twitter belief, buying a Glock is not a one size fits all approach.

    The homosexual shilling this shit in your picture owns over a hundred guns

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not gun minimalism it's prioritizing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's in that transitory period where the gun enthusiast hobby turns from 'ooo i love guns le bideo bames and le historical provenance' to 'i have a job and a mortgage and day to day responsibilities, I don't have disposable income to blow on random purchases of stuff I like but I do know that some guns are more practical for meeting the needs I have in shooting right now, and I would prefer to only spend what I have to in order to accomplish that set of goals'. I have a bunch of guns I own because I had consoomer brain at the time, and I just wanted them. Now it's hard for me to get the really nice stuff I want because I have frivolous money tied up in guns I don't use and probably never will.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Now it's hard for me to get the really nice stuff I want because I have frivolous money tied up in guns I don't use and probably never will.
        Sell the guns you don't use, and use that money to upgrade the guns you do use.

        I learned this a long-ass time ago when I was a teenager into Magic the Gathering. A bunch of my friends were too, and I noticed something: while some cards were very valuable, most people were carrying around huge boxes of essentially worthless ones. It was the same with friends who were into comic books: while some issues sold for thousands of dollars, they had piles of books the price guide said were worth $3 and $5...but good luck getting anyone to actually pay that much for them. I focused on trading up. I never owned more than a few hundred MTG cards in my life. My card box was tiny compared to everyone else's. But I owned virtually no cheapos. I constantly traded everything up. When I quit playing when I went to college I scored many thousands for my tiny collection.

        I'm really happy I learned that shit before I got into guns, but it's never too late to sell guns you don't need/use and trade up the ones you have.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I should have said, I'm in a state where private sales of 'salt weapons are made very challenging. I am moving to a freer state soon and will be unloading the vast majority of my collection. I certainly did not need an M70 zpap for any reason, or a third/fourth/fifth glock19 use case carry gun. Or another comp gun. Or a cheap shit AR that I don't have any interest in upgrading. It's all about growing up and letting go.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Are you top or bottom?

    What a homosexual lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lucas is totally a power bottom.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Uh no, the OP's pic shows he is a Top.

        Lucas is clearly the top part of the photo. He owns literally 100s of gun. He has a video where he basically humblebrags his way through what amounts to a whole bunker full of all of his shit. Lockers and lockers full of long guns. Walls of pistols. Fricking every optic and DBAL and Nods and Thermals and grips and stocks and lasers and all that shit. Plates and carriers and helmets and comms.
        >Here check this out its a whole area with plastic bins full of war belts its so many its basically every different one they make you couldn't even afford the bins to put them all in let alone the belts themselves

        Guy is a full on top 100%

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Asking to be put in your place without asking to be put in your place is a classic power bottom ploy. Bragging is naughty and requires discipline.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That had to be intentional right?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do you want to have a collection of cool guns that means something to you, or be a tryhard larping homosexual who never served as military, police, or even a fricking armed security guard.

    It's an easy choice for me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry fuddy, if you don't drive around with a special forces recce sniper load out and night vision in your 4runner, you are NGMI when there are riots in the nearest city

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I served but not in a coolguy capacity. I don't care about larping, I just want to be more proficient with a firearm and enjoy a few various styles of shooting competently with range buddies. It's otherwise a pretty solitary hobby for me.

      What are your goals? Self defense? Hunting? Plinking?
      If I had to limit myself to just a couple of guns, I'd have a concealed carry weapon (I lean towards pocket carrying a small .38 special these days) and a hunting rifle in .308.
      It's nice to own ARs and stuff, but those two are the ones I use in the "real world"
      I'd also like to have a 22lr bolt rifle around too.

      Fortunately I have a lot of friends who let me try their stuff out prior to getting in too deep. Most notably I've been to night shoots and a few long distance meetups.

      I think it’s fricking moronic. You cannot figure out what you need without owning a lot of guns. There’s many different handguns out there, contrary to instagram/twitter belief, buying a Glock is not a one size fits all approach.

      The homosexual shilling this shit in your picture owns over a hundred guns

      Answer it as a hypothetical then. If you can only have, say five guns - what are you taking?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Fortunately I have a lot of friends who let me try their stuff out prior to getting in too deep. Most notably I've been to night shoots and a few long distance meetups.
        That's pretty sweet to have friends like that. My experience is a lot less exciting. It's more hunting the woods and grocery shopping/going to work/daily life while concealed carrying. I've gone down the tactical rabbit hole but have reverted back to the basics lately.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This question is dumb on multiple levels. If you're shooting as a hobby, you're going to buy more than a truly minimalist amount of guns and gun accessories (one handgun with irons, some mags, and enough ammonto train with). If you aren't going broke and enjoy yourself, this is fine. It's also kind of unreasonable to expect not to have to resell anything unless you're just dipping your toes in since you often won't know what you want until you've owned some stuff. This still applies if you get to borrow things. Someone made a post about not being a hypebeast, and if you can ask yourself whether or not you are one and honestly answer no, you're fine.

        >If you can only have, say five guns - what are you taking?
        Carry handgun (you can stop here), salt rifle (LARP), clay/hunting shotgun, distance rifle, plinking .22. I think most of /k/ would agree that this is a practical list, but even the number of guns you chose is arbitrary and there are reasons to have multiple guns within the same categories listed, even.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Counting barrel as the gun bc otherwise I could say AR with a gorillion uppers
        Carry pistol, over under, rifled shotgun, short action bolt gun, target 22 pistol
        Covers most sports I like, all of my immediate regions hunting, and self defense.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        5 Guns
        SBR AR probs 11.5 set up for shooting nights but also for carbine and 2 gun matches. Also hunting.
        MPA Lim Optics for USPSA/Outlaw
        Carry Pistol any flavor of Glock 19 sized gun
        Clay Gun for the occasional Clay range day with the boys or Dove
        Bolty Boy PRS Gun

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I wanna have something functional and put the rest of the money into other hobbies or savings.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Every day I tell myself not to drop a grand on a 60DS because I know all I would do with it is wave it around in my office while yelling Blade Runner and Johnny Mnemonic quotes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have to do it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the gun industry and hobby is absolutely chock full of lifestyle marketing boomers that are cutthroat and ruthless when it comes to Winning Consumerism. what i mean by that is if you look at computer building enthusiast forums there's clear culture around measurable improvement based on cost and what you expect to use your computer for. guys with 4 rack servers in their office do not try and convince you that everyone else should buy 4 rack servers. but with guns they do.

      taurus revolvers are a great example of this. they're half the price of a smith and wesson and they aren't half as good as one. you'll get shit on for buying garbage but they aren't anywhere near the worst or cheapest revolver company, EAA, RIA, and charter are absolutely worse. that's a piece of heuristics that's just trying to manipulate you into validating someone else's decisions, and guns as a hobby is worse than probably any other when it comes to that.

      on that note i've messed with these in person and they do not seem like they are worth the $1000+ price tag they are asking for. they are extremely clunky aluminum frame guns with some pretty lazy engineering considerations. the weird bore axis is cool but 357 magnum hardly has difficult recoil to manage so it just seems like they created more problems than they solved

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I guess that's what I'm trying to avoid. Typically accessibility to this hobby (as it seems with friends anyway) has always been limited by what you can afford to spend. I'm jumping in as a single dude with essentially no budget constraints and I'm trying to not fall prey to what you're describing in regards to gun consumerism. I guess that's why I was curious as to what more experienced people here would keep if they were forced to keep it relegated to 5-6 guns.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Get a CCW
          Get a rifle
          Get a shotgun
          Get a 22
          Don't even count the shotgun and 22 in your total because a Mossberg and a Ruger are 200 bucks each and there are guns that cost thousands that don't do meaningfully "more" than they do

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This
            A mav88 combo barrel and 10/22
            >$600
            CCW
            >$600
            Rifle setup
            >$3,000
            Miscellaneous costs
            >$800
            For the cost of 5k you are now setup to hunt any game in North America, bust clays, protect yourself while traveling, and protect your home.

            That all being said, I like collecting shit and recognize I'm a gunsooming homosexual.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Rifle set up 3,000

              Lol wtf? Why? You can get a decent AR for around 1000 give or take, and a nice red dot for 500 give or take, and a WML for 100, and a sling for 50. That's $1650, and honestly you can even go with a poverty build that will work just fine. Example of poverty build; $600 AR, $200 Holosun, plus light and sling $950 total.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Rifle
                >$1,000-$1500
                Aimpoint T2 and mount
                >$850
                Light
                >$250
                So I guess $2,600 at most? Doesn't have any wiggle.
                You can definitely put together a competent rifle for less than $1,500, however if you're gonna limit yourself to a single rifle I rather have something quality put together than looking to stretch a budget with holosun and stream light. 5k for a whole collection is a reasonable amount over the course of a few years and that cost will be eclipsed by ammo costs even sooner if you're practicing like you should

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, I've been using a Delton AR15 that cost me $500 a few years back, a Holosun $150 T1 "clone", and a $50 stream light. And I actually use it for work as a duty rifle. Around 6k through it and it's still running strong. I know it's not a very high number especially when you consider what a competition rifle goes through, but I compete with my AR9 and save the 5.56 for occasional plinking, training, or quals. And I don't baby my rifle at all, because it's so cheap I let that thing fall and bump around and the sight has held zero and nothing has broken. The only negative thing I can say is that it's a over gassed but that's it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Pic related is also a Del-ton on a PSA lower.
                Has approximately 12,000 rounds on it. It is my first rifle that I've kept upgrading.
                Yeah it has nice accessories/optics. Nitride barrel, 1:9 twist.
                It's not even free-floated. Fixed sight block. Still less than 2.5 MOA
                I have much more expensive guns. This is the one if show up with if I needed it though because I trust it the most experientially.
                Not saying Delton = KAC but they're damn decent rifles

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Rifle
                >$1,000-$1500
                Aimpoint T2 and mount
                >$850
                Light
                >$250
                So I guess $2,600 at most? Doesn't have any wiggle.
                You can definitely put together a competent rifle for less than $1,500, however if you're gonna limit yourself to a single rifle I rather have something quality put together than looking to stretch a budget with holosun and stream light. 5k for a whole collection is a reasonable amount over the course of a few years and that cost will be eclipsed by ammo costs even sooner if you're practicing like you should

                Dude, I've been using a Delton AR15 that cost me $500 a few years back, a Holosun $150 T1 "clone", and a $50 stream light. And I actually use it for work as a duty rifle. Around 6k through it and it's still running strong. I know it's not a very high number especially when you consider what a competition rifle goes through, but I compete with my AR9 and save the 5.56 for occasional plinking, training, or quals. And I don't baby my rifle at all, because it's so cheap I let that thing fall and bump around and the sight has held zero and nothing has broken. The only negative thing I can say is that it's a over gassed but that's it.

                I think people grossly overestimate what you need for a daily defense or hurricane katrina / collapse of Yugoslavia 2 event. I think PSA premium or BCM uppers on PSA lowers are your power combo. If you have an exceedingly comfortable disposable income I guess you could spring for a DD upper. On the low end, the chrome barreled FN PSA uppers in an M4 style go for as little as $380. Add a BCG for $90 and a nicer lower for $140. Comes to $610. Then spring for a higher end optic like a Primary Arms LPVO or something from them, one of the more wear resistant EOTechs, or a nicer dot from Sig or holosun whoever, plus a magnifier where applicable. Say $500 for that if you get discounts. Toss on a $110 light and a $50 sling. Comes to more or less $1300. I don’t see how that rifle doesn’t last you the rest of your life.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I guess I should have put $500 - $700 for the optic, it’s late.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can go much cheaper if you go with a Red Dot instead of a scope. And you'd have to have some real LARPY conditions to come up with a scenario where you're sniping people with your scope

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I disagree, going out and about innawoods or even playing a semi realistic game like Hell Let Loose or squad or Arma, the naked eye sucks. Any amount of magnification is extremely helpful

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Tell me a realistic scenario where you'll be sniping human beings in your life. If you think it's realistic that you'll be part of a paramilitary group and getting in long distance engagements where you'll be sniping people, then you probably don't understand who/what controls the world and where it's headed. You're thinking that one day the elite will release their death grip on our neck and one day all the cuckservatives or libtards will one day stand up and fight a war against le evil elites, well keep on dreaming. They've hired the best scientists and psychologists to analyze exactly where the average and even above average thoughts of our kind lie. They know that we will never stand up against them. There will be a few brave souls who will stand up and fight the ~~*system*~~ out of desperation and sheer will, but they know it will be a few sporadic instances, and most importantly, since they control both the media and alternative media, these unsung heroes will be called terrorists even from your own words. Unless some decentralized mass media and currency magically pops up one day, it's over. Even the fear porn and gun companies are in on it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          really the only way to fall prey to it is to value what other people say more than your own experiences. what we're talking about is discretion and if you have it then you won't have any problems, but if you lack it then you'll be on the path of turning into a 55 year old gun show worker who is trying to convince a some 22 year old with a tupac shirt on to buy a glock instead of a canik

          and the boomers hate it when you have that. they fricking hate it when you say 'i just prefer to use a metal framed gun' or 'i think 9mm is a bit too much' or god forbid 'that one looks like a better deal'

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          For self defense you only need 1 carry gun (for most people it'll be a small handgun) and 1 long gun (shotguns are extremely effective but rifles in intermediate calibers are easier to reload, cheaper to practice with, lighter weight, etc.), hunters, competition shooters, collectors have other criteria but they aren't concerned with self defense.

          This question is hard to answer because we don't know where you live (and you definitely should not tell us), the laws and regulations in your area can influence your decision.

          To summarize:
          1 hangun you can carry.
          1 long gun to protect your home.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        For me its the optics nerds. Getting bullied for having anything other than an eotech or tricon is fricking wild

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >because I know all I would do with it is wave it around in my office while yelling Blade Runner and Johnny Mnemonic quotes
      Would make for interesting PoliceActivity footage

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Barrel seam is ugly as frick. Get a Ruger LCR with those Blade Runner grips that anon made.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The punch pressed internals are unfortunately very cheap compared to Smith and Colt offerings.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Compared to old Mateba Unicas these are just poor cope choices unfortunately.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Spot on

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >all I would do with it is wave it around in my office while yelling Blade Runner and Johnny Mnemonic quotes
      I don’t see anything wrong with that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      SO fricking ugly

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >4 ARs
    >3 of them do the same thing
    >meme sized scorpion
    >mfw
    Buying shit for fun is fine like the various pistols and diarrhea AK but the bottom is immensely more practical and a better use of money.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the bottom is immensely more practical and a better use of money.

      But that's the thing, bro. What do you actually do with your guns that is "practical". 99.9% of the time they're sitting in a case, safe, or leaned against a wall. Even when you go to the range, you're just shooting at paper for fun. It doesn't really matter what setup you have. If you hunt with your ARs, it still doesn't matter because the deer don't shoot back so you can hunt with iron sights if you so choose because there is no incentive to stay 300m away.

      At the end of the day, guns are just a hobby for most people who aren't military, police, or security. Once you have a dedicated CCW and long gun for home defense, everything after that is for shits and giggles. Avid hunters are really the only people who truly NEED a bunch of different types of guns because hunting regulations are so different between jurisdictions and seasons.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ordinarily I would call you a stupid Black person for your reddit spacing and ignore your post but I found it funny.
        The bottom will fit the purpose of a CCW, home defense rifle, and hunting rifle all in 3 guns. By your logic you should never buy a fricking optic at all because paper doesn't shoot back either. Your entire post is just so illogical and moronic that I can't imagine you're anything but a poorgay redditor trying to sound smart.
        Just because you're not actively employed using your firearms does not mean shit. The entire post is about "efficient" use of money. Would you rather buy a bunch of fun random shit or 3 high quality firearms that can fit as many potential use cases as possible? Personally I would choose the bottom since it's not like those aren't also fun firearms.

        [...]
        Stop being homosexuals and enjoy things. Not everything has to be for your John Wick scenario

        Reread my post you frickwit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Your post harping on practicality is fricking moronic. Go frick yourself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >no argument because you know I'm right
            Suck my wiener and balls then moron lmao

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Your argument was shit. Fun random firearms are infinitely more enjoyable than two ARs and a strikershit pistol. Your desire to stretch your dollar in the name of practicality reeks of poor.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >By your logic you should never buy a fricking optic at all because paper doesn't shoot back either.

          No that's not what I implied or said. My point was that it doesn't matter at all because all this shit is a waste of money because it's just a hobby designed to kill time. Unless there is specific task you need the gun perform for your job or a competition then it's all just shits and giggles.

          >Would you rather buy a bunch of fun random shit or 3 high quality firearms that can fit as many potential use cases as possible?

          I would buy whatever the frick I want. I have guns as a hobby and use them at my job so usually cost isn't a concern when a gun has an actual "use case".

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The most efficient use of money is to buy what you think is cool.

          But even then, all you really need is a bone-stock compact pistol, a couple magazines, and a cheap flashlight. Full stop, you’re done. Though if you hunt, you can also throw in a pump action shotgun.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >By your logic you should never buy a fricking optic at all because paper doesn't shoot back either
          Correct. If you aren’t a hunter you will never need an optic. If you need an optic for home defense you probably need to wear a bicycle helmet 24/7 because you’re a fricking moron.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This

      Stop being homosexuals and enjoy things. Not everything has to be for your John Wick scenario

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao like what does practical mean you fricking goober the handguns the only practical guns shown. Zero cheap hunting guns or shotguns and any self defense case means you're down your own pistol or your carbine.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bottom, absolutely
    >firearm collecting
    I want a big collection of old and weird shit so pic is dumb. AR and Glonk is so boring.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    PROTIP: Lucas's dad bought him every gun in that photo.
    Don't take financial advice from people who owe their success to inheritance lol.
    Don't take advice on what guns you "need" from people's whose actual pedigree is airsoft, call of duty, and losing a uspsa competition every once in a while.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      don't take advice from people who take glamour shots of their guns. i don't mean what burt does i mean this homie literally set up multiple lamps with diffuser sheets in front of them, in his garage, to take that picture. dude literally set up studio lighting to take a picture of his guns in his garage

      that's sophistry of the highest order. do not trust people who create artificial glamour when they are presenting something at face value.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Burt literally is a fricking fat autist who can't run 100 yards to save his life and his whole personality revolves around an autistic blue frame. Though Lucas isn't role model material, the kid actually goes outside and shoots with friends and professionals which is more than can be said for tripgay attention seeking homosexuals and the average PrepHole seething edgelord

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the average PrepHole seething edgelord

          This board has the highest concentration of military, police, armed guards, and hunters on PrepHole. Yeah, if you're a CoDkiddie who just got into guns then you might like botkin, but to everyone else he's just a homosexual.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >highest concentration of military, police, armed guards, and hunters on PrepHole
            That is saying basically nothing because if one of any of the above has ever posted it is automatically the highest concentration on PrepHole.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I think people like you who everyone here is a shut-in NEET are hilarious. 4-chan is 20+ years. There are probably anons here who got introduced to the Chinz by their own parents (as disgusting as they may be). The people who post on /k/, likely don't exclusively post on this board. The true intent of PrepHole gets lost in all shitposting, but this is ultimately just a website for hobbyists to talk each other, and most people have more than one hobby.

              Regardless, there are plenty of professionals from all disciplines and walks of life here. They started here and can't leave because you can't call people Black folk anywhere else.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I would have agreed with the last part but even that is pretty much done here. The troony jannies will ban you for anything they don't like. I get three day bans multiple times a months for saying Black person and I wouldn't be surprised if they give me another one with this post.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I feel like it used to be this way. Not so much anymore.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I frequent the handgun general. And no one ever discusses actual shooting there. It's just people taking pictures of pristine service pistols that don't even have the slightest holster wear. The closest thing we have on that general to an actual shooter is a guy who prints decent groups at 15 yards on a static range. I stopped trying to talk about shooting in that general because no one ever responds or has anything interesting to say. Fact is people are more interested in fitting in an anonymous board by posting their guns to strangers than actually discussing technique or tactics. That being said, we should have a shooting general where people can discuss the actual shooting aspect of guns. Not just the "mines better than yours because I own this".

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >am I a tacticook hypebeasts brainlet or a firearms enthusiast?
    that's the question you need to ask yourself.
    just to have a vertical slice of types of firearms you NEED not less than like, 25-30.
    if you don't actually like shooting guns, just get an AR and rice it out to shoot paper at 15 yards.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lol neither, theyre both gay and moronic
    16 inch PSA/Anderson AR with a block !! barrel
    eotech or holosun + magnifier
    a handgun that isnt a total pile of meme plastic shit that can be actually be shot one handed in a defensive situation, and red dots on handguns are for gay morons and goo gobbling homosexuals

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Solid bait. Real potential for legitimate replies here.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you call the truth bait
        anyone wasting money on red dots for a pistol outside ipsc is a spooked §oy homosexual moron consoomer, a light does everything faster and better for a defensive weapon in ranges youre likely unless youre a moron who thinks theyre shooting a pistol pass 20 yards defensively ub aby effective manner outside making people duck or runaway

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally all you need is a Glock 19, mags, and a CCW holster. Everything else is a fricking larp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t never shoots past 10 yards
      I’ll pass

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I did a lot of bowling pin shooting competitions several years ago and people regularly, consistently shot pins with iron sights on their glocks and revolvers at 50-100 yards. Now you fricking zoomers think you need an ar and optics to fricking hit anything beyond 10 yards.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Army pistol qualification test is over 30 yards.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even understand what his photo is trying to show. I honestly think the following is a bare minimum gun collection:
    >12ga pump for hunting & HD (mossburg or similar)
    >semi-auto .22LR for small game & plinking (marlin 60 or ruger 10/22)
    >30-cal rifle with a magnified optic for hunting (AK, AR10, bolt action, lever gat, you pick)
    >glock 19 or similar compact 9mm for carry
    Add Alternates:
    >minimalist AR15 due to wide ammo availability and versatility of the platform
    >AK47 or SKS due to reliability and ammo availability

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I no longer believe in the AK/SKS reliability/availability meme. Sure, 7.62 was cheap for a long time. But an SKS is hardly worth keeping has a backup gun or a militia gun because nobody other than enthusiasts know what the frick it is or how to use it properly. Being trained on iron sights is a big investment on time if there's an affordable and repeatable powered optic that can be used instead. 1 decent AR is far more useful than 3 SKS's, logistically.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't disagree. But SKS/AK's are still extremely common in the gun ownership community especially in the older generations. I know many people over 40 that own an SKS but don't own an AR15 and they're sitting on thousands of rounds of stockpiled ammo.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Black person do you know how common the SKS is in America?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Black person not nearly as common as your unhinged PrepHole perspective on gun ownership thinks it is. It's a weird overseas import gun from the gommies. Most gun owners could not identify one out of a crowd of guns.

          I don't disagree. But SKS/AK's are still extremely common in the gun ownership community especially in the older generations. I know many people over 40 that own an SKS but don't own an AR15 and they're sitting on thousands of rounds of stockpiled ammo.

          You surround yourself with niche weirdos.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're dumb as frick or a zoomer. The SKS is owned by a shit ton of people who are 30 years and older, it's just that it's not a practical firearm for home defense or even hunting (though it could be used for both) so it sits in most people's safes. It was selling for $100 to $300 at some point before ARs became cheap and affordable for the common man, so they were bought by a shit ton of millennials in their early 20s, Gen X, and Boomers. Not to mention, as that anon said, the stockpile of 7.62x39 ammo is HUGE throughout this country due to how cheap and inexpensive it was for multiple DECADES. I myself has multiple spam cans that I don't even expect to open throughout my lifetime.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Iron sights are easier than glass if you can't use irons your not a real gun owner and should not even be allowed to own them

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’m a proud top

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of people will conflate the top picture with their poorgay collection of a dozen milsurp guns, turkish pistols, 22 shitrods, and a single PSA blem upper/lower “build”.
    Don’t cope. Buy what you want, but buy quality.
    I’d rather 5 or 6 incredible, fun, guns than 20 meh guns

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A dozen milsurp guns can be incredible and fun

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not really.
        Bolt actions all shoot the same, unless they're some Swiss gun.
        There is nothing fun about a Lee Enfield over a Mauser over a Savage Axis.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Spoken like someone that’s never shot any of them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/JnBNf3k.png

            >Bolt actions all shoot the same
            lol
            no

            Holy fricking filtered

            They're all the same.
            >you don't get it the bolt throw on my enfield is .25" shorter so I can keep my head in the same place!
            All the same.
            Inaccurate, wood and shitty quality steel, boring to shoot, and usually in some shitty cartridge with bad bullet selection.
            But hey, some semi-literate Limey or Kraut once carried it while guarding the camp latrine, so it has some history, right?

            They're not even cheap, and haven't been for years.
            Just buy a generic Savage/Howa/Ruger/CZ that is lighter, more accurate, and shoots a relevant cartridge.
            Milsurp is lame and boring.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Noguns

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You sound like a homosexual. You’re also moronic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Bolt actions all shoot the same
          lol
          no

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Holy fricking filtered

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >conflate the top picture with their poorgay collection of a dozen milsurp guns,

      I mean unless your collection is all pre-Covid bolt action shitrods milsurp isn't actually that cheap.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And yet you don’t own any guns

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What caliber you wanna see big boy?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          .318 Westley Richards

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gun minimalism might be fine if you buy guns exclusively for one or two potential use cases but a lot of the time you'd be better off buying a dedicated gun for a particular purpose than trying to hamfistedly force one gun into doing everything.
    Sometimes buying a dedicated gun is just flat-out necessary (good luck hunting waterfowl with any of the three guns in the bottom half of your pic) and sometimes you can buy one gun that will do it all, it'll just do a worse job than two specialised guns that cost half as much (you can definitely buy one gun for hunting and long-range precision shooting there are trade-offs you'll be making that you don't have to). It's not just a matter of quality vs quantity - what makes a gun good for one thing might directly make it worse for another, this isn't something you can escape by just spending more money.
    And that's not even touching on the fact that some people enjoy collecting guns because they enjoy collecting guns. I don't, by any stretch of the imagination, need my Garand or my Calico they're fricking cool and I like having them.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most likely shtf outside your house scenario any of us are getting into (if at all) is roof korean/hurricane you loot we shoot situations. All of these require 2 legs 2 arms and some vaguely gun shaped object but mainly friends and neighbors that can be trusted to stand outside with THEIR guns or shaped objects.
    Genuinely just find something that interests you and stick with it until you don't find it fun or think you'd want to branch out. Some guys get super into black powder, some get super into steel challenge or similar. Just don't bounce around so much and stick with shit longer than as a passing fad.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you like guns? Usually there are several reasons, and most overlap.
    OP displays 100% “prepared citizenry.” Maximizing capability in scenario where rule of law partially or totally collapses- in the minimal case, a mugging, in the maximal case, some type of disaster, man made or natural. Why did he make this post? Epidemic of people who SAY that’s why they’re into guns, but their purchases to not reflect their stated motivation.
    However, some people like guns to compete in shooting sports. Some people just think they’re fun to own and look at, and only shoot occasionally. Some people like to tinker with them, whether at the basic level of assembling ARs to 3D printing frames, to fully homebuilt and machined firearms. If these are your reasons for owningguns, you may have a better experience with the top picture than the bottom picture, depending.
    Just have fun anon.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'll bite

    It depends on what you want out of it. If you just want "only what you need" for utilitarian purposes- defense, hunting, big igloo, etc- then yeah you really only "need" a semi auto rifle and a pistol. Those two will cover 99% of what you "need". If you wanted to expand, you could do so cheaply with a scoped bolt action rifle (assuming your semi auto rifle is 5.56 and thus not the most suitable for hunting/shooting bigger shit farther away) and a pump action shotgun, both literally available at your local walmart.

    Any other reason to buy guns usually involves passion towards the mechanics and/or history of guns which usually entails collecting multiple examples.

    There's no reason you can't do both, have your core ar/pistol properly set up for your needs and with which you practice with regularly, and literally anything else you want for reasons you dont need to rationalize to anybody

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Swap one of the top ARs with a shotgun and it's such the better choice it's unreal.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dramatically cheaper too

  23. 1 month ago
    BoberBuilds

    >gun minimalism
    The only thing you should minimize is caliber diversity
    >easier to stockpile
    >less chance of swapping similar looking ammo.
    >pic related

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so that's where my butt plug went. give it back please

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ARtism gets boring, but it is really nice not to have to worry about having "enough" of 15 different calibers. I kind of want to branch out, but I do not want to deal with my stacking autism kicking in for more ammo types.

      • 1 month ago
        BoberBuilds

        >ARtism gets boring
        I only will collect rare/hard to come by ARs - as seen in my post - TTR and LE6490P both piston, only a few thousand/sub thousand of each made

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >saved $30
    >has less guns
    dollar for a dime situation here boys

  25. 1 month ago
    Gammabullish

    What about 3 rifles that cost 10k each?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      grim

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And they all do exactly the same thing, so it’s a waste.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      'Splain that optic setup on the center rifle. Convenient storage? Simply extra magnification?

      • 1 month ago
        Gammabullish

        ? That is a t2 + g45 and a rh25

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not well versed in these things. So recently hasguns that you may as well consider me noguns. Is there an advantage to setting it up that way beyond personal preference? The acronyms are Greek to me.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            red dot + magnifier + thermal clip-on up front

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"Are you a poorgay or a richgay?"
    Richgays get to have the options if they want minimal or buy whatever shit they think looks cool.
    Poorgays have to evolve into the looter meme if shit happens, then they can worry about if they have too much useless shit or not.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The "every random fatty needs a delta force oper8or loadout" meta really sucks the life out of this hobby

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As europoor (all guns cost x2/x3) i'm going :
    >.22 rifle
    >.22 pistol
    >long barrel 12 gauge hunting shotgun
    >short barrel 12 gauge combat shotgun
    >full size combat 9 mm
    >conceal carry 9 mm
    >14,5" AR-15
    >18" .308 bolt action
    Everything needs to be modern enough for spare parts and all around gear (lights, slings, scoped, all of it). I'm still far away from my goal. And then I'd like to start a handgun collection.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ruger Mark IV .22lr pistol (bag/survival gun)
    Glock 26 (CCW with ability to take much bigger mags if needed)
    AR10 in .308 (combat/ranged rifle)
    12ga Mossberg (all-purpose longgun)
    .50 BMG rifle (anti-material)

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >look at how minimalist and good at spending I am
    >has 2 ARs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I thought one was an AR-10 tbh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it looks like both magwells/lower receivers are the same size

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no black powder
    >no shotgun
    >no lever action
    >no inherited guns
    >No plinking 22
    pathetic. I recommend slitting your wrists if your gun collection looks like either of those. he didn't have enough interesting guns to even make even one worthwhile collection.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I personally buy anything that fits the criteria of being cool to me and being fun to shoot. Only exception would be a gun I find cool but the caliber is dead or too expensive to shoot regularly. I'm a euro and I have a cap on how many guns I can own sadly so in a way my collection has always tried to cover as many bases as possible. my 2 next purchases are going to be either a modern ar-15 (that I put off buying for years because unless I make a GWOT build I find them boring) so that I can start practicing dynamic shooting and either a pcc for fun plinking or a k31.
    IMHO I don't think you should limit yourself to just 3 or 4 guns just because a twink said that minimalism is cool now, but you also shouldn't just buy every single gun that catches your eye as more guns doesn't always equal more fun or a good investment of your time and money.
    A good advice would be to at least buy every accessory and spare parts your gun might need before buying the next gun.
    Plus, always keep buying mags and ammo and if you can train with your guns, you don't need to larp as a high speed low drag operator like some morons do, but going to classes and learning to shoot a rifle in more positions than just sitting at a bench is already plenty.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm a euro
      >cap on how many guns I can own
      Jesus that's grim. How many?
      >my collection has always tried to cover as many bases as possible
      Good line of tought. What do you have?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Jesus that's grim. How many?
        3 common guns, 12 sporting guns, unlimited hunting guns
        >Good line of tought. What do you have?
        here, rate or hate. If I lived in the US I think my collection would look a lot different. Probably a small glock for carry and I would've bought a modern ar15 a lot sooner.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          See, in the US these rifles are all super collectible and will retain value long term. Sure someone could winnow these down to purely practical use cases, but at least in the US this collection would be seen as an investment over a 'fun gun' thing. If in the US /k/gay's life, those were all replaced with 5 AR-10s from different manufacturers, random mossberg shotguns and 6 different glocks, it would probably be a different situation.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I feel like there are a lot of better things to invest on rather than firearms. Especially when I'm "devaluing" them as I keep shooting them. I bought 5 ounces of gold in 2015 and it gained better than the price of any of the guns I own.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, but in terms of value/enjoyment someone may get a lot more out of a real SVD or even a good clone in the US than anyone in the EU. If you're being totally utilitarian, yeah gold is probably a better investment. If you're being practical, rental properties (if rates were better) are a better investment long term. Your health is the best investment you could ever make, but that doesn't get talked about because it's not just a money thing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Your health is the best investment you could ever make, but that doesn't get talked about because it's not just a money thing.
                True that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >3 SVDs
          >3 hole AR with an auto sear
          >presumably an AK-103
          eurogays... perhaps i was wrong...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ak103s have folding stocks

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ak103s have folding stocks

            It's a saiga

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >OG oldgay blem /K/ patch
          That makes me almost as jelly as the other guns. I wish I didn't live in such a noguns shithole.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Me too I feel your pain buddy, since I live in israelite York State 2nd only to Commiefornia in NoGunz tomfrickery.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry Commiefornia is like 5th or 6th on the list now, Washington has surpassed them. It’s like you guys, NJ and Washington in the top 3.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry Commiefornia is like 5th or 6th on the list now, Washington has surpassed them. It’s like you guys, NJ and Washington in the top 3.

              Damn ain’t that a b***h. I do though have a really big impractical Bald Eagle Knife still can can real good sharp as Merican eagle claws.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Czech Republic?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            italy

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It will probably take you several years and shooting of firearms to find out where your "sweet spot" is in terms of what you want to own.

    I myself started out being into milsurp rifles, but gave up on getting more. Now I just prioritize stuff that's practical for me, or I have an interest in. As an example, I bought a Springfield XD-M in 10mm because I shot a 10mm and developed an interest in the cartridge (I also liked the XD in particular).

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My advice, don’t get redundant weapons. Choose a handgun, shotgun(not a combat one) assault rifle and a DMR/Sniper. Don’t buy a bunch of junk accessories. Do your research on brands, get things of good value. Doesn’t have to be top a of the line weapon that’s over marketed and over priced. An example of this would be purchasing a WASR10 as opposed to some other overpriced AK that functions exactly the same.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One good fighting rifle and one good pistol. Everything else is fair game. I have a lot of specialty hunting rifles, milsurps, black powder, meme guns, high end handguns, etc. Some of them I'd consider absolutely necessary for hunting & trapping use (at least 1 shotgun with interchangeable barrels, 1 .22 rifle for trapping and small game, 3 different larger caliber rifles for different game, large game defensive handgun, hunting handgun at a bare minimum for me).

    Gun minimalism is such a weird fixation, if someone wants to do it, that's their prerogative. But coming from Lucas who owns a bunch of meme ARs and has enough disposable income to include a fricking SR25 into a "minimalist" load out is strange. Strange creature.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What in your eyes constitutes gun minimalism
    I've never heard the term before. Is this some silly new bullshit like "genderqueer"? I'm not sure why people felt the need to invent some new phrase when the point is simply to buy what you need and nothing more, but that's different for every person. Around here most people are interested in self/home defense, so a compact pistol for CCW and something like an AR or a shotgun makes sense for that application. Beyond that is highly varied: If someone hunts or they participate in shooting sports they need the appropriate weapon. People living in rural areas, farmers, etc, often need guns for pest control, dealing with predators or putting down livestock. In some parts of the country defense from large animals is important if you do outdoor activities. "Minimalism" means not buying a bear gun unless bears are a legitimate concern for you, not buying a duck gun unless you hunt ducks, and so on. Identify your needs, pick guns that suit those needs. Don't buy anything beyond that. That's minimalism.

    >and quality over quantity?
    Most of the time there's rarely a point in quantity unless you have multiple different needs. Once we're past buying guns to cover specific needs and you're talking about collecting or buying guns as an investment? Quality >>>>>> Quantity. This is universal. It doesn't matter if you're collecting pokemon cards or fine art: you could have a big pile of cheapo guns but those are difficult to sell and don't appreciate much. meanwhile high-end pieces appreciate very well and people fight over them at auction. Also it's worth pointing out that this applies mainly to guns themselves. Accessories almost never appreciate. Fancy optics can be useful if your needs require them but they don't hold their value or appreciate. Assuming you're paying fair market value, a single $5k gun is a much better investment than ten $500 guns or a $2000 gun + $3000 worth of optics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ...continued.
      I often hear people recommend lists like "a CCW, an AR, a shotgun, and a bolt-action" or some similar variation. Those are fairly practical lists and I think many shooters do end up with those guns, but at the same time I think it's stupid to use it as a checklist for blind consooooming. CCW makes sense, assuming you're actually going to be carrying it. If you aren't carrying it then it's pointless. Shotguns? I love them, I hunt and I shoot clays. But if you don't hunt and clays aren't your thing? That raises the question of why buy the shotgun? Likewise for the bolt-action rifle. They're good for hunting larger game you couldn't take with an AR and you can get into longer distance shooting...again, that's awesome if you're actually doing those things but if you don't hunt and you aren't shooting long range then there's no point in buying one just to buy one.

      There's nothing at all with range toy guns or buying guns just because you think they're cool or you're into larping as a cowboy or a l33t operator or whatever, but just be honest with yourself that's why you want the gun and treat it like a recreational expense.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What in your eyes constitutes gun minimalism and quality over quantity?
    pic rel
    >t. europistani

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      perfect honestly

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Swap the M1 for a full auto M14 and you've got yourself an excellent 1980-90's armed robbery duo loadout.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nice, you inspired me to take a pic of part of my collection to match this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >you inspired me to take a pic
        nice

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Like that AR anon, classic collection.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this guy FRICKS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're not a Eurostani. You're a red blooded American.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        >You're a red blooded American
        >mfw i really am just a yuro

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In spirit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/lK3kvqU.jpeg

        [...]
        >You're a red blooded American
        >mfw i really am just a yuro

        [...]

        My blood is red white and blue and I shit patriotic assburgers.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer top but I've always been curious about bottom tbh

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what scope is that on the bottom middle AR?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      LED illuminated ACOG with a killflash, and RMR.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would lean to minimalism, albeit my collection is not worth the two batches in the OP and size wise is comparable to the top part. It depends on what you want to do (target shooting, PRS, ELR, milsurp collecting, modern semi-autos, skeet/trap, hunting, etc) and how deep you want to get into each individual one.

    To give more concrete examples, I enjoy occasional skeet/trap outings, but not enough to compete seriously so I bought a used Auto 5 for $200. Yet some dedicated skeet/trap folks have more than one shotgun, or one shotgun plus a ton of chokes or barrels. Another personal example is I have an ELR set up which costed me a pretty penny. Plus, if someone enjoys semi-auto shooting, it isn't uncommon for someone to have an AR-15, AK platform, and PCC as all of these fit different feels when operating but at the same time didn't get poverty tier models of those three. Of course, people can fit into multiple of these cases, and thus have more than a handful of guns

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A rifle in 22lr because FUN
    A pistol for EDC
    A rifle in 30 caliber for big game and big boom boom FUN

    Probably all you really need since it covers the majority of roles the average civilian will come across

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Between those two exact examples I'll take the bottom. If you're gonna collect guns why waste money and space on boring shit you see every day? Much better to have a collection full of exotic and strange firearms, basically using old forgotten weapons videos (before it went to shit) as a shopping list

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >whynotboth.jpeg.exe
    Ignore all prescriptivist gunt00bers.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    buy one gun for each hand and a kilo of bullets every month. That is the way.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im a bottom c:

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      alright homosexual post your tummy

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >you should probably not waste so much money on amassing a collection but spend that same amount of money on 1-2 guns you can use for a multitude of purposes and be proficient with them
    >NOOOOO LET PEOPLE ENJOY THIIIIIINGSSSSS YOU'RE JUST A LAAAAARRRRPEEEEERRRRR YOU'RE JUST SHOOTING PAAAAPEEEERRRR

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Both are good, what other people enjoy doing is none of your business

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOOOO LET PEOPLE ENJOY THIIIIIINGSSSSS YOU'RE JUST A LAAAAARRRRPEEEEERRRRR YOU'RE JUST SHOOTING PAAAAPEEEERRRR

      Yes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. just shoots paper on sunny days.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how's your rainstorm drills doing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dont forget to look over each shoulder after shooting homosexual.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    carry gun in 9mm - glock19
    556 fighting rifle - AR15
    utility shotgun in 12g
    .22 lr plinker and training pistol - for fundamentals
    something bolt action scoped and long range

    Once those are properly outfitted with lights, slings and optics that covers all gun "needs". I'd argue you should own thermal, NV, armor, 10s of thousands of rounds, a battle belt and chest rig before you own a double digit number of firearms.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. I'm gonna die in a shootout with the feds
      >is an accountant that lives in the suburbs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        basically

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        In fairness the people who get in shootouts with the police sometimes are just random people. Accountants who live in the suburbs can still commit white collars and get feds on them

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In fairness, out of the hundreds and thousands, if not potentially millions of tacticool LARPERS. How many will actually die in a shoot out with the feds?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >stockpile everything
      >get domed and scavenged by Donquavious with a rusty Hi-Point
      Grim

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        shtf is a larper fantasy that will never happen

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Good quality rifles should not cost that much, we are frogs and we have yet to notice the boil.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You are falling for a psyop that is making sure you have less guns dumbasses

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure the government would rather have someone own a few quality guns rather than a bunch of Saturday night special trash

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dumb argument.

    His collection is focused on larping so yeah it makes sense to dump all your cash into the various larp uses of guns.
    A collection based purely on a love of guns will have a bunch of random shit in it.
    A collection based on larp, hunting/fowling will also have a bunch of random shit in it.

    I fall in the third category and its pretty easy to end up a big collections
    >big game rifle
    >deer rifle
    >varmit rifle
    >long-range rifle
    >fowling shotgun
    >HD shotgun
    >bow
    >AR
    >pistol
    And that's just if you are a basic hunter. If you start getting into backwoods stuff you'll end up with 2-3 more bolt guns. Its also pretty easy to get a bunch of guns in niche calibers. And most people who are into guns grew up wanting gun from [war/movie/video game] so add in a couple random guns as well - Garand, KAR, M16 repro, FAL ect. So you could end up being in your mid 30's with a dozen guns all of which are nice without really trying.

    tl;dr: there is no meta, there is only what you are interested in.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    minimalizing your guns = minimalizing your fun

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only ones advocating for "minimalizing" a gun collection a repressed homosexual twinks and poorgays copers.
    They always seethe and shit and cum when someone says "buy whatever you like" without even realizing that if you like a collection more like the one on the bottom you can simply buy it because you enjoy it. same as someone who as a more varied interest in firearms.
    Buy whatever the frick you want, if you're unhappy about the purchases of other anons it means you are a nosy homosexual

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >repressed homosexual twinks and poorgays copers.
      the funny thing is those same morons advocating for small collections don't even follow their advices, the twink has a massive collection bought with daddy's trust fund, while the poorgay copers NEVER have a collection of 2-3 guns worth more than a couple grands. The only time I see anons with fully kitted out rifles and kit they also always have a massive collection of other random but fun stuff.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also, they tend to screech about only buying things that are practical. But then they have things like NV and plate carriers and lasers and shit.
        PROTIP: S will never HTF. You will never need to run around in the dark with a rifle and plates to shoot people.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >S will never HTF. You will never need to run around in the dark with a rifle and plates to shoot people.
          True, but if someone has fun doing that shit, power to them, as long as they don't try to larp as "r3al opernadors" There is nothing wrong with buying NVGs, but if you think not having NVGs will ever mean jackshit then you're dumb. If you're ever gonna need them you're either gonna get issued a pair or you're a pest hunter.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > True, but if someone has fun doing that shit, power to them
            You’re not wrong. But my point wasn’t that you shouldn’t buy NVGs or PCs or whatever.
            My point was that if you buy those things and the screech from high heavens that people should ONLY own things that have extremely high practical value, then you are a Black person and a hypocrite.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I agree

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >scholar breaks into my home
    >shoot him with my $5k AR
    >it gets stuck in evidence locker indefinitely or IF I somehow get it back my acog + rmr stack is missing

    versus

    >teen breaks into my home
    >shoot him with $400 Palmetto state poors rifle
    >buy another one

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      everyone needs a bedside PSA for just in case. its the hidden 3rd gun.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      even better, use a printed lower and with the magic of "extra parts," you could be back in business the same day!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >>it gets stuck in evidence locker indefinitely or IF I somehow get it back my acog + rmr stack is missing

      Dumb ass you take the optics off and can off before you call the cops, same goes with the ir and anything else you care about..... its gonna be 5 plus minutes so if your guns short go switch out for a long one or tack weld on an extension.
      Leave the flashlight so you can say you him clearly about to nig nog all over the place.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My collection looks like both pics combined. Ive got everything from my larp AR to a Roland Special and I even have a couple AKs, some 22s, a levergun and a half dozen pistols. My plan is to use my 300 dollar Charter Arms .38 to kill a home invader to not waste a nice gun.

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One for each use case I guess.
    >defense weapon
    handgun is realistically all you need
    >plinking handgun
    22lr
    >plinking rifle
    AR 15 with standard 5.56/223 barrel, which can be retrofitted with .22lr if you're feeling cheap
    >hunting/skeet shotgun
    Literally anything will do

    All I really have a use for. I don't have any delusions of fighting wars with my stuff, they're mainly range toys. I could see myself getting into other kinds of shooting sports that would necessitate different items, but I can get away with having different upper assys for my AR than multiple dedicated bulds. Idk maybe I'll get a dedicated SBR'd one eventually but for the time being this is more than enough

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >spends 11 thousand on guns instead of 2k on guns and 9k in ammo and range time
    grim...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      t. Someone with 800 dollars worth of ammo and 2 hours a month of range time

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just buy what your going to use regularly. If you want a gun to conceal carry get a handgun that fits you. If you want to hunt birds or shoot clay, get a shotgun. Worried about shtf or home invasion get a rifle for your choice. I don't know what your situation is or what you exactly want but you gotta ask yourself these questions and than decide what firearm will best fit that situation. Nothing wrong with owning multiple firearms even ones that are just for fun or collecting just be honest with yourself on why you want it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      cute good answer

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    First, I would want a .22 bolt action for cheap target shooting and discrete pest management (a can is transformative, but CCI Quiet22 works good enough even without), I have a Savage MKII for this IRL, it’s great.

    Second I would want a shotgun for hunting and home defense. Buy a name brand pump action combo with a bird barrel and a rifled slug barrel, then buy an 18.5 inch defense barrel. Mine is a Mossman 500, It was my Christmas present when I was 13, it’s killed deer, geese, ducks, grouse, pheasants, raccoons, and a blackbear. I don’t know than any competing shotgun is “better”, but I’m also not sure that a Browning, Winchester, or Benelli pump aren’t just as good in every way, and maybe nicer in the hand.

    Third, I would want a handgun in a service caliber (.38 special or better) for fun and defense (for when it’s not socially acceptable to answer the door with a shotgun at low ready, basically). This can be a revolver or a pistol, but many people will try more than one before they find the one they like. The generic choice is a Glock 19, but I bought myself a 1911 when I turned 21 and would do the same again because of personal preference. Having the ideal handgun is less important than having one you like to shoot and will reliably practice with.

    From there, I would buy a semi auto carbine or a concealable pistol for every day carry. Again for both of these, the one you will shoot will be better than whatever’s the most optimal conventional choice.

    You might want a nice milsurp or a lever action, or a bolt action rifle for hunting or target shooting in wide open spaces too. Any of these could be slot 4-7 too. .22s in other configurations (pistol, revolver, semi auto rifle, etc) are also good choices for recreational shooting, but for the pistol or semi automatic rifle, my preference is an adaptor slide for my pistol instead of a dedicated .22lr pistol, and likewise I have a .22LR AR-15 upper instead of a 10/22.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >shotgun for home defense

      Dead in the sheets

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >ar15 for home defense
        sent to prison by a jury of normies for evil black gun murder

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >oppresses himself with headcanon

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >'Can'
              >posting gun normie clickbait as an argument

              Self defense fanatics love to brainstorm reasons why they will be demonized for protecting themselves

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He's summarizing a study
                https://www.thejuryexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/MeyerTJESep2009Volume21No5.pdf

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >sent to prison by a jury of normies for evil black gun murder
          sad reality, unless you live in bumfrick nowhere with 20 acres of land for yourself and can bury a body somewhere, but yes, black evil rifle can send you to jail for being what it is.
          i recomend using anything else as a substitute, handguns in general are fine, shotguns are good to go, for rifle anything that remotely scream "grandpa herloom" will not impact the case in any ways, like mini-14 or M1 carbines.
          honestly it's fricking moronic that despite what they have been told, a jury will still put their personal feelings before the law itself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're an idiot this is not even remotely how juries work. If leathal force is justified the means of inflicting it are irrelevant.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              He's saying that despite how juries are supposed to work, people still bring their prejudices with them. Especially on heavily disputed political topics

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It heavily depends on jurisdiction on if you even see a jury.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There have been multiple people put in jail for self defense because I lawyer convinced the jury their gun was over kill

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Then surely you have multiple examples you can show?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Multiple? Lol. The only one that can even come close to mind was one where a guy hiking shot at a man and his dog and the shoot was questionable in the first place, and they tried to focus on the fact the gun was 10mm, and the guy walked free anyways.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        An AR is marginally better, but if a fellow has 1 gun, a 12 gauge 18 inch with #1 buck is better than just about anything else non-NFA at home defense and is a barrel swap away from hunting anything that’s not a hippo or elephant.

        Nothing can match the first shot stop potential of a 12 gauge, carbines compete only by being easier to run well and get first and second shots.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Someone being hit center mass with 5.56 is going down, anon

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            going down on who hahahaha

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              who ever has the gun obviously

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Effort-bait?

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >see, I don't waste my money on more guns like you morons
    >I waste it on accessories instead
    You only "need" 1 pistol and 1 long gun and you can have both for less than $2000. Anything else is unnecessary.
    >b-b-b-but I neeeeeeed muh 6.2mm milsurp bolt action bullpup pistol sniper weapons system
    No you don't. Stop lying to yourself and just admit you have it because you want to have it.
    I have 25 guns. Only 4 of them are of any "practical" use, but I'm not a female so I don't need to justify the other 21 to a bunch of homosexuals on the Internet.

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like guns. Do i have too many? Probably. But i like them all the same.

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any person worth talking to would have a collection more similar to the top. When you get into firearms, you buy a few different things until you decide what works best for you, so you might have a Glock, 1911, SP101, and that kind of thing. If you just buy a Glock, AR-15, and nothing else, you are incapable of thinking for yourself and have nothing to contribute in conversation. Even in the situation where someone tries out the whole world of firearms and still comes back to the AR and Glock, if they get rid of everything else, it tells you that they're not interested in having fun, which is even worse.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >sees Walther P38/P1
      >LUPIN!
      Quick question is that a P38 or a post war P1?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's a P1. I've had it for 13 years and it has been a pretty sweet shooter.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/EbLFRY8.jpeg

      It's a P1. I've had it for 13 years and it has been a pretty sweet shooter.

      >It’s a Walther P1
      That is da Bomb Giggity. Those post war grips look so kino.
      If I ever get a gun here in NY it’s gonna be a P1 being under 10 rnds and a Cold War classic.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    2 is 1 and 1 is none

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both are boring as frick in OP but bottom more so

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    May I see it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you want to see what?

      why, my peanus weenus of course 🙂

      hahah! 😀

      it's my weeeeeenus peanus! 🙂 hahah

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just buy guns that I think will be fun. My collection isn't big, and it's mostly milsurp shit, but I love it. Haven't bought anything in a long while because I need to shoot what I have more often.

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >bolt action
    Are you gonna hunt? If yes go big, if no get a mauser or mossin....or something cool old and fun.
    >pistol
    Glock, 43x or bigger.
    I have smaller hands and rhe sig p365xl fits my hands better. But if only got one pistol, glock 19 optic cut slide is the way to go
    >auto rifle
    AR15 with a bcm or better upper...boring but in America its what to get.
    If you want an ak... so much more fun, anyhow WASR or better. 5.56 aks are cool, 5.45 are cooler but you missed the boat of 10 cent ammo stacks

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I currently own 19 guns. I've thought about downsizing but I can't bring myself to sell them.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Top: Enjoyer, enthusiast
    Bottom: Paypig, LARPerator

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why not both?

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what constitutes gun minimalism
    That depends on your use case. Anywhere between one and three guns could be considered a minimalistic approach.
    A pistol for CC and open carry capable of killing people and medium sized animals while being able to shoot quickly and accurately with is the bare minimum. 9mm will get the job done, but if bears are a serious concern where you live, I’d consider stepping it up to 10mm
    Next would be either a rifle or a shotgun, and that’ll depend on what kind of game lives in your area and what kind of shooting you plan to do.
    Can’t go wrong with a 590A1 for a shotgun and some kind of AR for the rifle. When going with an AR, I prefer to stick with stuff that follows the TDP or makes meaningful improvements to the design. Colt, BCM, Sionics, SOLGW, and FN all follow the TDP pretty closely if not exactly. KAC is an option if you have money to burn. But depending on where you live, 5.56 may not be the best choice for a cartridge and you might want to step it up to an AR-10 ish design or go with a boutique round like 6mm max. The deciding factors will be your environment, the targets you’ll likely be shooting, the distances, and your ability.

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    IMO, making sure what gun you buy has a purpose is the most important. I try to practice minimalism b/c I'm a poorgay. For example, I have 5 guns: 1 durr rifle, 1 antique rifle (it was a gift), 1 home defense shotgun, 1 edc pistol, and 1 carbine for SHTF. I plan on getting only 1 more and probably gonna stop there: a 7.62 NATO semi auto. If there's anything else that I find nifty enough that I might want, I plan on seeing if a range will rent it out for me to try first.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cost doesn't matter you larpers
    every gun is capable of failing which is why some people find it prudent to have redundancies

    have lots of fully kitted out guns or dont bother

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The top person likes guns. The bottom person likes LARPing. You can't call yourself a gun enthusiast while only owning two ARs and a Glock. You're still just a normalgay at that point. A true gun enthusiast would want to own things like 1911s, Berettas, and AKs simply because of their mechanics and storied histories.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think most people are a mixture. I have a few min maxed tactard setups but also quite a few collectibles and even shitty guns that have no real defensive value. I just like em
      I hate that the internet pretends you have to be 100% a fake soldier or 100% a boomer collector. I'm both

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    3 gun setup

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't want to end up with a bunch of shit to resell
    This is natural in any hobby. You buy something because it piques your interest, but you realize it isn't what you really wanted so you sell it to someone else. I have bought and sold off plenty of firearms in the past 10 years of being in the hobby and I haven't regretted selling anything so far. I've regretted some of my purchases, but it's all part of the learning process. My biggest piece of advice is don't buy shit and don't sell a gun because you need the money because those are the ones you will regret selling.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've run into this too, but I don't want my daughter to deal with getting rid of a couple of hundred guns when I die one day. Because if I had kept up my spending habits post Sandy Hook, I'd easily have 250+ right now. I was easily buying three for every one I sold/traded in. Much easier on her to invest.

      Before i get back to buying a lot of guns, I'm probably going to buy a few pre-86's and definitively getting started in the suppressor market finally. I don't plan on moving again, so I feel more comfortable getting some NFA items now

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm both.

        At my most, I owned 56 firearms. Right now I'm at 21. I'm in the process of getting rid of about half of those if/when they sell on gunbroker or on consignment at a local FFL. I'm also getting old and some health issues/injuries have caught up to me.

        Basically keeping the sentimental items, a few I've earmarked for my child as she gets older and can practice/learn, a couple for farm management, and some for self-defense. I'm generally going for higher quality items, at least for what i'm carrying/using regularly.

        I may go back to "hoarding" at a later date, but a lot of my money is currently going into traditional investments, child's trust fund, and paying off my house/car.

        >daughter
        ngmi

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's all fun and games until a small part cracks in the field and you have to wait two weeks for a new one or repairs while having no backup.

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    noone will see this
    i think what is optimal, when owning multiple guns, is have your kitted-out, buy what you can afford twewy/shtf setups, then leave whatever other guns you have in original condition and not have multiples of the same type.

    so maybe like carry pistol, shorty/folding shotgun for cqb/lock breaching, then a dmr type thing as your primary weapons and money sinks, then whatever fun collector stuff you find as your other guns (sell/pawn whatever non factory extra accessories they come with)

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to know what's "normal among gun owners" I found this interesting data

    Essentially 71% of Americans who own guns, own four guns or less; and there's more gun owners own one pistol and nothing else than there are gun owners who own 5+ firearms

    Now, without data and merely speculating, I'm guessing a lot of 4 gun collections aren't "optimized" either, they're the .22, 12 gauge, .30-30 and .30-06 a flannel walrus has on his rack

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >they're the .22, 12 gauge, .30-30 and .30-06 a flannel walrus has on his rack
      That's pretty close to optimal if you only have four guns.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >bottom graph
      This is why we are winning the concealed carry war: normalgays who own a pistol for personal protection.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >normalgays who own a pistol for personal protection
        I think the majority of the gun owners they only own a pistol are the “grandmas with their dead husband’s service revolver in a shoebox in their closet” group, which is surprisingly big.

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People who do the bottom are joyless homosexuals that only use meta builds in games.

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm both.

    At my most, I owned 56 firearms. Right now I'm at 21. I'm in the process of getting rid of about half of those if/when they sell on gunbroker or on consignment at a local FFL. I'm also getting old and some health issues/injuries have caught up to me.

    Basically keeping the sentimental items, a few I've earmarked for my child as she gets older and can practice/learn, a couple for farm management, and some for self-defense. I'm generally going for higher quality items, at least for what i'm carrying/using regularly.

    I may go back to "hoarding" at a later date, but a lot of my money is currently going into traditional investments, child's trust fund, and paying off my house/car.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've run into this too, but I don't want my daughter to deal with getting rid of a couple of hundred guns when I die one day. Because if I had kept up my spending habits post Sandy Hook, I'd easily have 250+ right now. I was easily buying three for every one I sold/traded in. Much easier on her to invest.

      Before i get back to buying a lot of guns, I'm probably going to buy a few pre-86's and definitively getting started in the suppressor market finally. I don't plan on moving again, so I feel more comfortable getting some NFA items now

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love it. I've considered selling off everything but my p2000sk and ar-10 (I can basically everything I'd want to with those), but I have several guns from family I can't sell and if I have to have 5 I might as well have 20.

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    doesn't matter how much you spend on the gun, the bottom guy will still die to someone with a PSA + thermals.

    thermals + NVG = king

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is that Lucas Botkin? That twink has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Boca Raton Air BnB. That shit had to be the tightest, whitest, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Lucas screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That twink frotted my wiener until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That twink Lucas and I been fricking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Lucas, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass homies either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.
    That Twink Lucas Botkin stole my heart and drank my seed.
    https://voca.ro/1oHqThrlnXWT

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Which are you? Top or bottom?
    Not gay

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Are you top or bottom
    Very subtle Lucas

  86. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    am I moronic or is this angled grip on backwards?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s backwards, but I have met people that used them backwards and put their hand in front of it. I don’t know if they were aware that they were using it backwards, but they were.

  87. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just get one really solid rifle and handgun set up, then do what you want. forcing yourself into minimalism is dumb, but you should have a quality baseline.

  88. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Here goes.
    >1 AR-15. Go with either a 16 or 20 inch barrel.
    No 20 is not too long. Try being less of a pussy.
    >2 Mossberg 590.
    If you are poor then be less poor, alternatively the Maverick 88
    >3 Ugh... Glock 19. There, I fricking said it, okay!
    Of the handgun models you can get, capacity isn't really as big of a factor for the average civilian.
    Shot placement is king and always will be, so with EVERY weapon, you improve with practice.

  89. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have some crappy guns I wanna sell so too bad

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gun hoarding is just as gay as other kinds of hoarding.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        LMAO imagine being so fricking poor that you sell your stuff instead of just giving it away or throwing it in the garbage. LOL even

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Post your family pic, homosexual. Let me laugh at all the dogshit I'm sure you've accumulated.

  90. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I actually enjoy having guns rather than seeing them as just a tool.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Being able to appreciate the history and mechanics of different eras of firearms is very rewarding.

  91. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you call me a gun hoarder for having more than one gun, I will either call you
    a.) an [x] hoarder for owning/collecting whatever it is that your interests or hobbies drive you to own more than one of, such as cars, computers, board games, coffee machines, bows, consoles, etc or
    b.) a rootless cosmopolitan for owning nothing and being happy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i'd call you a gun hoarder for having guns that serve no purpose other than to possess, ones that you don't use but refuse to get rid of. Owning them for the sake of it.
      its not the quantity but the mindset

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'll call you a gun hoarder so you buy more guns out of spite. After you die your significant other will sell your impressive collection for way less than its worth.

        "Go hoarder go! Buy more guns!"

        t. owns nothing and is happy IAW WEF projections

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll call you a gun hoarder so you buy more guns out of spite. After you die your significant other will sell your impressive collection for way less than its worth.

      "Go hoarder go! Buy more guns!"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        who the frick cares? bury me with my guns like a fricking viking for all I care.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        After you die your guns will be confiscated by the government because they are now illegal in 2070

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