Can the winter save Russia?

>Russia is getting BTFO
>Has had to mobilize 300k people
>Winter is coming which may slow down Ukraine offenses
>This slow down will allow Russia time to actually train their 300k people
>300k actually trained conscripts could be enough to save Russia

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They tried to buy winter clothing from Turkey and got denied.
    They're fucked.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No worries, Iran will bail them out again.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >When the iranian winter uniform shipment arrives, everything will be all right.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think Iran has its own problems at the moment anon.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I'm sure they'll donate the Iranian strategic winter uniform supply.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Iranian winter equipment arrives
        >It's long sleeved shirts and long shorts

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        how cold does it get in iran?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Actually the mountains can get extremely cold, but it's kinda like Afghanistan where it EXISTS and cold gear is USEFUL but it's not something they'll have stocked in mass abundance. Enough to outfit a few divisions worth, sure, but it's like how in 91 the US didn't have nearly enough chocolate chip camo to go around.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Average low is below freezing even in Tehran. So yeah, Russia probably will end up in Iranian winter uniforms.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That would be so fucking funny.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It sure would be too bad if Iran got destabilized by American glowies, good thing that won't happen :^)

    • 2 months ago
      /out/ie

      Ethiopia is their ally and will provide.
      Hohols will freeze!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah theyre not too busy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How the fuck is Russia out of winter clothing?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They somehow "lost" 1.5 million winter uniforms.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They took inventory of available winter clothing, 1.5mil units are lost. Lost in Russia's context means that A) the items were stolen and sold, B) They never existed and the officers responsible for procurement pocketed the procurement roubles.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They've all been sold on Varusteleka.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >be commander of supply depot
        >government gives you a bunch of money to buy winter clothes
        >write "1,5 million articles of winter clothing" on the books
        >pocket the money
        Noone will check anything, nor will the clothes be actually requested, so why wouldn't I keep the money to fund my dacha? It's not like we'll be going to war anytime soo- Oh blyat.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They were sold to military surplus shops.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russia sold all their cold weather gear to Western Airsofters and tankies. They’ve been caught using shell companies trying to buy cold weather gear from Turkey.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They’ve been caught using shell companies trying to buy cold weather gear from Turkey.

      >mehmet why have our winter combat gear exports gone up 3000%?
      >no izhmir u see they are many different company orders
      >idiot mehmet them is of russia

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    conscripts are already going to have poor efficacy. Add into that poor logistics, low morale, and the cold and you have a recipe for a terrible time

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God no, the winter will slow down both sides, but one side has pin point accuracy to blow them up wherever they dig in, the other side doesnt even have winter clothes.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >can cold weather save army that has no cold weather clothes against army that has every single soldier equiped with best HATO clothes
    HMMMMMMM...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bitch there is no way the fins make enough cold weather gear for all the ukies. They will have us snivel gear at best.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Finland is the only country on the planet with cold weather

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Russia is the only country with cold weather, comrade.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its gonna be more like
    >Russia is getting BTFO
    >Has had to mobilize 300k people
    >Winter is coming which may slow down Ukraine offensives
    >Also slows down Russian mobilization and training
    >Still no winter gear, supplies of morale
    >Everything continues as before, only now its frostbites and necrosis in addition to Ukraine drone strikes and general misery

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My understanding is that winter isn't a big deal so long as an army is properly equipped to deal with the freezing cold. What actually slows down operations are the mud-seasons that immediate precede and follow winter.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ukrainians can buy civilian winter clothing if need be. They can take it.

      I doubt Russian conscripts are ready for a Ukrainian winter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Ukrainians can buy civilian winter clothing if need be
        Winter clothing is non-lethal aid, EVERYBODY is falling over themselves to donate the non-lethal stuff.

        Here's 100k winter boots, look we're helping!

        Plenty of cold and snowy countries around that know how to deal with winter and have their own reserves of winter uniforms and a lot of them are squeamish about donating weapons so this is going to be their favourite thing to do.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >winter isn't a big deal so long as an army is properly equipped to deal with the freezing cold.
      The thing is that everything suggests that the Russians planned this whole operation to be a 3 day thing..
      What are the chances the Russian troops in Kherson have winter gear with them?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        well they invaded in february, but those guys are all dead or captured, so probably not much left

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You do realise that they get food and clothing from their holding stores and take them to their troops right?
        Being in a warzone requires resupplies or you die, you can get resupplied with new things later on in the war you don't only have the stuff you start with.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you don't only have the stuff you start with
          Normally, no, but anon... this is the russian army we are talking about here.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > are the mud-seasons that immediate precede and follow winter.
      Half of ukrainian winer is sort of a mud season, with temperatures slightly oscilating around 0C.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >....as an army is properly equipped to deal with the freezing cold.
      Um....they AREN'T properly equipped. (Pic fucking related.)

      Also -- according to that video where the conscriptovitches look like they are on the verge of mutiny -- they not only do they lack winter clothes; they have little armor, few weapons, bad first aid kits, not much food and are suffering fevers and pneumonia....and weirdly enough, they all apparently need some anti-psychotic meds because some of the dudes pulled from prisons and nuthouses are starting to lose their shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        My advice to them?

        Defect!!!!!!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Defect
          Did you know this is the first word every Russian baby hears?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fucking underrated!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            savage

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            11/10 anon

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Inferno :DD

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You fucking animal! You made me spit my coffee laughing!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >No Mein Monke, I did not sell them to western surplus stores.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've never been much of a larper but I suddenly feel the urge to get over to my local surplus place and see what they have. Imagine scrolling through a PrepHole thread about freezing vatniks in January, while all wrapped up in your comfy Russian winter uniform and blankets?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That explains why gorkas and LBE gear is sold out everywhere!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just like the ghost soldiers of th ANA they only existed on paper, but the money paid for them has magically disappeared.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >winter isn't a big deal so long as an army is properly equipped

      that's why it's bad for russia

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is a Ukrainian winter and vatniks are the invaders this time.

    So fuck no.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thing is, the entire "winter slowing down the war" is a bit of a leap because you see, if Russia does not provide competent reinforcements...

    It fucking won't. Winter slows down the war because it would normally prevent protracted seiges, demands troops to rotate more often, and makes logistics a pain in the ass with deteriorating road conditions and extra considerations.

    Which Ukraine doesn't plan to, is capable of, is less fucked by than Russia, and has already made. You won't see any catastrophic Kharkiv style breakthroughs in the winter sure, but Ukraine doesn't actually have barriers in pushing forward, just speed limiters.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Valeriy and Oleksandr are aggressive. They will attack in the cold.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Definitely.

        Again, having to limit offroad speeds to 20km/h to prevent humvees from getting tilted will limit the exploitation potential a fair bit, but Ukraine will push the line.

        It should also be noted that with both mud and snow, it affects both parties. Russia is in both cases simply fucked harder than Ukraine, especially if they break across the river in the next 2 weeks. Ukraine has a massive infantry advantage while Russia has a massive mechanized advantage. Guess which one of these two gets more fucked by rain and snow

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ukrainians should buy up as many off road vehicles as possible. Convert them to asskicking technicals.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            We are going to see Ukie SOF with AT-4s doing snowmobile/riptide/hovercraft raids over frozen mudfields, aren't we?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You mean all that mechanized advantage they keep abandoning?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody can definitively say but I think no
    >Russian soldiers aren't equipped for the cold
    >Russians are invading not defending their own land
    >Ukrainians are also used to winter

    I do expect the war to slow down by a ton for a month or two due to General Mud but after that it continues

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a month or two due to General Mud
      It's currently the height of mud season and the wettest fall in living memory. And Ukraine doesn't seem to care much.

      https://i.imgur.com/ySvm0Pe.jpg

      >Russia is getting BTFO
      >Has had to mobilize 300k people
      >Winter is coming which may slow down Ukraine offenses
      >This slow down will allow Russia time to actually train their 300k people
      >300k actually trained conscripts could be enough to save Russia

      >T-two more seasons!
      Yeah, no.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        As expected. Ukrainians attacked when it wasn’t expected by Russia.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >currently the height of mud season
        the fall mud season isn't nearly as bad as the spring one though. both sides fought throughout the fall mud season in WW2, it was the spring mud that ground everything to a halt.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ukrainians will grab up off road vehicles to truly shock the Russians.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >And Ukraine doesn't seem to care much
        If I had a company of those mud buggies, I know I'd look for an excuse to use them too. Looks hella fun

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >currently the height of mud season
        It is not. I live in Ukraine btw.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >pic
          neat, whats it say ukiebro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            "I AM NOT YOUR BEAUTY!"
            It is a reference to a putin statement, he referred to Ukraine as *his* beauty

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >And Ukraine doesn't seem to care much.
        Could it be that they have functioning tires on their trucks?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This isn't the 1940s and Russians probably didn't grow up like it was 1700. A lot of them will be from cities and places where they might have some form of heating which doesn't require you to be a semi-competent woodsman.

    I doubt fieldcraft is well taught in the modern Russian military either. I don't think they teach them anything, or even could.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We’ll give the Ukrainians all the winter gear they need.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Russians probably didn't grow up like it was 1700
      Bold assumption

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Bold assumption
        Why? Didn't all the woodland churkas already die off?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia
    >properly training and equipping 300,000k conscripts for winter warfare
    kek

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >winter freezes ground
    >Russians are missing 1.5 million cold weather uniforms
    >conscripts aren't even being held back for training because some have been fucking captured 5 days after being conscripted

    Oh it's going to be worse than the past few days.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have the conscripts completed a mandatory conscript training prior to the war or did they just draft people with no training at all?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They've completed the mandatory conscription, but Russian conscripts don't get a lot of actual field/combat training during conscription.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Both.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes.

        unironically to both questions

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Went through mandatory service, which means fuck all in post-soviet armies. Most of them never shot a gun, because surprise surprise, ammo is expensive even for an army.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mandatory conscript training
        Fun Fact: Lots of Russian conscripts are "trained" by being sold as laborers to high-paying Russian developers for a year

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russian tears will finally freeze over.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We'll send some more HIMARS to help thaw them out.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cold weather does not do fuckall as Ukraine has backing of the western winter warfare specialists. Only the starting mud season can slow ukraine for a while if they are not prepaired for it somehow.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You could give them a year and they still wouldn't train those conscripts properly because they system sucks and they don't have an nco corps.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Plus dumbass Russians killed all their trainers!

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Traditional wisdom is that winter makes offensives harder for a multitude of reasons. However that only really counts if both sides are somewhat equally well prepared for it. Russia is NOT prepared for winter, is in a precarious situation that will only get worse... and winter in south ukraine is nothing like in russia or north ukraine anyway. See
    https://climatemaps.romgens.com/
    pushing towards crimea during the winter might be very possible.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    we're talking degrees of hell here, but atleast getting capped by a drone/himars/javelin whatever, you were atleast in a war, you fought, all that. Mainly due to Russias incompetence, but still. Dying in the snow, starving in Kherson because your government just couldn't be fucked to either save you or supply you? It's just a gulag with another name.
    If Kherson has to survive a winter siege it's going to be an absolute horrorshow.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt Kherson will last that long.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I doubt Kherson will last that long.
        How many attacks haver there been now? This is the third right?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Depends how you wanna count it. It's the second "official" offensive

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If Kherson has to survive a winter siege
      The US is telling them to take it before Winter fully arrives.
      They probably already know to but UA strategy is being done hand-in-hand with NATO anyway.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean if they attacked right after a really chilly night vatnik weapons might start malfunctioning because of poor cold maintenance lmao

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Trenches and static build ups of forces are going to increase along the Russian front if Ukraine slows down their push. That means you have then have a very visible first and second frontline and a whole lot more HIMARS…

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine won’t stop. They have the reserves to shore up their rearguard.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If anywhere between Kherson and the border collapses they'll be completely fucked.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How long can Kherson hold?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        according to some shit I read, it seems the vatmorons have already begun starving in Kherson. The ukies captured some prisoners from the vicinity, and noted they had hollow eyes, were gaunt looking, and seemingly shell shocked.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That’s scary considering they’re marines, paratroopers, Wagner.

          They’ve been fighting way too long without a fucking rotation.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Those striped shirt douchebags have done nothing but circle jerking since the cold war ended.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What’s rotation?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/Bf2YasJ.jpg

            What’s rotation?

            The decree that started mobilization also postponed/denied any kind of rotation for people already there.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              But anon... that's not how you fight a war. Even the french in 1917 realized they had to rotate troops off the front line for some R&R. They hadn't and damn near half the french army mutineered.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >marines, paratroopers, Wagner.
            Scary names from actual units of force without any of the strength. A Russian paratrooper isn't an American. And Wagner at this point are junkies and convicts.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I personally think they'll try and smash a hole in the line between Russia and kherson. Maybe toward berdyansk or mariupol. After that they hit the crimea bridge and you have a clsuterfuck on your hands on a seriously immense scale. Everything between East crimea and west kherson which is Russian will be fucked.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        about tree fiddy

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no winter clothing = frozen vatniks. they're done for, unironically.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They will become blyatcicles

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Can the winter save Russia?
    it will make things worse for Russia

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder how winter is going to effect drone usage. I reckon most of the consumer drones in use by either side are probably not designed to handle freezing temps.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What fucks you with consoomer electronics is condensation. If they conformally coated PCBs they will be fine. Basically if they are anywhere above shit tier chinesium drones will be fine.
      Batteries lose capacity too, but are still usable.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You'd better have a heated space to charge in. Lithium batteries might lose some capacity and efficiency when cold, but most chemistries will completely fail if charged below freezing.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Batteries would be the main issue I think. I've used phones with lithium batteries in sub-freezing temps and they go from full to dead in minutes.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >300k starving, frostbitten vatniks without proper winter clothes, shelter or other essential gear

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    American supplied thermals are gonna kill thousands. The chink crap becomes flushed out in desert and winter terrain since for some reason they can’t process the difference well. And that’s being highly optimistic that Putin would dip into his caviar fund to buy some from China. And we have already seen most Ukie squads having atleast one person in it with a big ol thermal

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"XAXAXAXAXA I'm Puccian winter man, frostbite not affect*~~*~~*~~) pussy westerner I drink vodka*~~*~~*~~))xaxaxa"
    >Vatnik discovers that he is in fact a normal human and loses fingers, toes, ears and nose to frostbite
    >dies from gangrene because Russian field medicine sucks shit
    the frostbite problem will become huge for Russia

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russians, for Christ sake, DEFECT!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        CANNOT DO, COMRADE, BECAUSE I AM NOT A AMERICAN PUCCI! WHAT WILL BABUSHKA AND DEDUSHKA THINK OF ME?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It gets even funnier when you realize that alcohol makes frostbite about 100x more likely and dangerous. Doing a single shot of vodka or bourbon can help for the concentrated energy it provides. Downing a bottle of bathtub vodka wrecks your circulation and increases both te chance and severity of frostbite,

      Quite frankly, one of the most insidiously evil things that Ukraine/the West could do right now is ensure shipment of thousands of cases of cheap vodka into Russian-held territory. It would be insanely cheap, too. Russians would be falling over drunk and easy pickings ... those that don't outright die from alcohol poisoning or lose all their fingers & toes to frostbite.

      Flat out, just ship free vodka by the train directly to all concentrations of Russian soldiers. Russians will take care of it from there.

      Krokodil, fentanyl, and bath salts are also options.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fucking genious. I love the way you think, anon.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I really like how cheap that option would be. $10 million worth of vodka? How about $250 million worth of vodka? Free, no charge for delivery. We could end the war for less than a billion dollars.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Would it be classed as chemical warfare or otherwise unethical?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >unethical
              Oh, fug man. You're breaking my heart ...

              Wait. That only counts against humans. Sometimes.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Food grade alcohol, just sitting in a boxcar on a train. Nobody is even telling Russians to drink it. If they decide to put vodka in their own bodies, it's a free world. YOLO!

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    dudes
    if the Russians legitimately get fucked by Winter.... what does Russia have left? those stacking dolls?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      can't lose with all these NOOOK threats

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      AIDS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >deploy the russian mafia!

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure the winter will work out for them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      always remember. Vats got buttfucked.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ukraine stops offensive in winter
    >train more soldiers
    >get more supplies from nato
    >spring offense with well trained soldiers and good equipment
    >russian soldiers lose feet because of frostbite

    sounds like a win for ukraine

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      stops offensive in winter
      Stops? Nah.
      Slows it slightly, Sure. Moves troops around more cautiously, Sure. Rely less on infantry raids/drone grenades and more on snipers and artillery, Probably.

      The Russkies will have to dig trenches in the cold, wet earth and hunker down, because they will be too cold, hungry and sick to mount their own offensives; they have no choice but to weather 5 months of attacks from warm, well-fed, well-armed and well-rested Ukies.

      Sucks to be them, but hey, The Ride Never Ends.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The Russkies will have to dig trenches in the cold

        Now that you mention it, winter might help Ukraine. Keep up the pressure now, try to keep Russia's lines moving back. After it gets really cold and starts to snow, if Ukraine can start a large offensive the Russians would have a much harder time retreating and harder time digging into new defensive lines.

        I think Ukraine is well equipped enough to make large advances in winter. We'll find out soon enough.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine is probably going to keep their current tactic of bypassing Russian positions, cutting off the GLOCs, and then shooting up the Russians when they try to escape. This is going to be extremely unpleasant for the Russians.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You do realise that to maintain any forward positions that they aren't attacking, Ukraine needs to also dig in?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The HIMARS, migrating across the sea to their new hunting ground spots a green exoskeleton. Perfect for the current summer climiate and foilage in ukraine.
        >Come winter, they will undergo a change, acquiring coloring as white as snow with small veins of black and brown to blend into the snowy landscape.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Show of hands, who heard David Attenborough's voice in their head when they read that?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know I did.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      stops offensive in winter
      more soldiers
      They'll just rotate the current troops out for the ones who've been in the west all this time training.
      Give the current guys some R&R and send them back for more training for a bit in a warm place with pizza and burgers. Then some more R&R and back to work in the Spring when they relieve the Winter guys.

      Russians will be losing guys all Winter to constant steady advancements, they just won't collapse like Karhkiv because they can't run that fast because of the snow and mud. It'll be more gradual with Ukraine having to kill or capture every fucking conscript and most of them probably need medivacs from the frostbite and shit.

      Come Spring who the fuck knows if there's even an army left in Crimea.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What will Russia and vatniks have left if they get fucked up by winter? It's the *one* meme they have.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They still have human waves and nukes.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cold saps your morale and is an increased logistical strain as you need to move more calories and support to your troops or they suffer attrition from just standing still. Slowing down offensives is moot after the ground freezes. These factors weigh in the advantage of ukraine with a higher morale base, better logistics, and more mechanised forces in more modern equipment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      True, I heard that frontline soldier during winter requires 5000 calories per day and 5 litres of fluids to keep in good shape

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The STARTED this whole thing as the END of winter and even then they weren't prepared with what they already had with fresh troops and somewhat reliable gear.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did it help the last time?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like how you can see those absolutely idiotic riot wagons they took with them.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need to update that with Putin's face.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We know what will happen thanks to February and March. ruzzians were suffering from cold and necrosis back then. Now imagine what will happen when their fresh, untrained and unequipped masses arrive. At least wolves will get enough food, good for forest ecosystems.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They don't even have proper winter clothing for their conscripts, seems like alot of them are going to be having a bad time

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russia will fare worse than the Ukrainians just because of preparedness and logistics.
    But ultimately the fact that this is even in the back of the Russian's minds is another indication that their military thinking is stuck in historical analogies which bites them in the ass

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Stills in St.Petersberg are going to be hunted down and sliced up but not by the CIA. By their own countrymen they screwed over for roubles. All you third generation party member fucks are going to get cut up bad by some very poor very angry people for your lying and now you are trapped.

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ask Napoleon how a winter war without proper preparation goes in eastern Europe

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry the first batch of 300k of conscriptos will be ready, just in time for the next one to be grabbed off the streets and shipped out during the middle of winter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that one Conscriptovich still strung out on krokodil

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >finally come out of the daze
          >why am I in a trench?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >hey comrade, want more krokodil? Give me sloppy toppy. Do you hear a buzzing noise?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >arm still taut in injection pose

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Overdose in the barracks is probably one of the better ways to go out

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well at least someone brought painkillers.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Russians will be highly vulnerable to the cold.
            From what I’ve seen they just camp around with shitty foam mats.
            Won’t protect you from the freezing ground, which will leech the heat from your body while you sleep.
            So the ones on the front sleeping in trenches will literally have the temperature sucked out of their bodies.
            Any campfires? Easy prey for thermals or any other recon.
            Any barracks they’re staying in like is usually only protected by the forward position which will be freezing it’s ass off.
            When the forward position stops being able to put distance between the enemy artillery and the barracks you can guess what happens.

            The only thing the Russians have going for them is that in the spirit of being a people of fake hype, their mythical winter weather is also fake hype.
            Moscow for example doesn’t get much colder than Iowa.
            Down in Ukraine it’s probably even warmer.
            So despite the vodka shitstains being unprepared for cold weather, it probably won’t be apocalyptically cold like it’s often implied.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You try camping like them in a winter in Iowa dude being exposed to the elements is a shitty enough time when it’s 40 degrees out

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Moscow for example doesn’t get much colder than Iowa
              (You) are wrong. Just really, *really* REALLY fucking wrong. You have to go to Antarctica to find worse weather.

              > "much" colder
              By "much" we're talking 10-15 degrees Centigrade, which is the difference between 10% mortality and 80% mortality. The wind and the snow is insane. I've been there in the Winter when it's -35 degrees C for a week to two weeks at a time, when it warms up to -15 degrees C for a day or three before dropping to -30 again. Iowa ain't never seen shit like that. I used to live in Chicago & Wisconsin, so don't even try to tell me you know what you're talking about, child.

              Go back to 4chan and LARP as a Big person there.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                how often did they drop you as a baby anon?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fucking prison camp levels of accommodations

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Remember to show that to anyone you know who is going through basic training in literally any other country if they ever complain about their accommodations.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Hell, I got as good accommodations and much nicer food in my basic training than I did when I was a minimum wagie. You don't learn shit if you're too fucking cold and tired to listen.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus. That's... one wood stove? For an un-insulated, poorly maintained wooden longhouse with a door so drafty and thin it might as well not be there.
        I wonder how warm their sleeping bags an mattresses are...

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There are two doors, one inner and one outer, so that won't be as bad. I imagine they block it with jackets at night.

          That many men will also cause a lot of body heat output, although I wouldn't be surprised if they get icicles from all the moisture in the morning.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Those doors aren't going to do shit, just look at all the stains on the floor from water seeping in from the roof. The whole thing is made from pressboard and isn't any better than a chicken coop but with more open space.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/9YWBz8N.jpg

              Jesus. That's... one wood stove? For an un-insulated, poorly maintained wooden longhouse with a door so drafty and thin it might as well not be there.
              I wonder how warm their sleeping bags an mattresses are...

              Honestly it's fine for current temperatures, I reckon. Obviously it's prison tier amenities, looking at the mattresses and the general environment, but above 10C and with proper clothing they should be fine. Most importantly they don't directly sleep on the ground and even have an (one) oven.

              When it's getting to -10 they'll freeze.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              As long as it, and the peoples body heat keep the room above -10 they should be fine, you can block the gaps.
              The heater can probably add more than +30 degrees to the room if stocked well.
              Hell you can live in tents with fuck all insulation using heating like that

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you can block the gaps
                Anon, there isn't a right angle in the entire structure. It's nothing BUT gaps.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >That one russian looking like he's strung out
        Shit to be honest an OD vs freezing to death in your truck that ran out of gas while trying to retreat only to be warmed up by some artillery strike (that used to be yours but you lost cause you've been running for the past few weeks) might not be the worst way to go comparatively.
        >Verification not required

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anon the better way to go is to just surrender. The Ukies probably treat POWs better than their own country is treating them RIGHT NOW. There's a difference between "boot sucks because we need to break you into proper shape and discipline so you have a higher chance of survival and learn" and "this sucks because we're in a gulag and the guards sold every to airshitters in Japan and Mississippi so we can't do any actual training"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Or he could choose a good time to slink away and make his way to surrender to Ukrainian troops. As long as he doesn’t unfortunately bump into a pissed off group or have been filmed castrating ukrainian pow’s, he should be fine.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That IS unironically gulag setup accomodation to to the last nail holy shit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          not an accident. several of the concentration camps including auschwitz were old polish army barracks, that "concentration camp architecture" is straight up east european army barrack decor.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        These barracks look like they were built in ww1 and not touched since then

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        These barracks look like they were built in ww1 and not touched since then

        Looks like the Swiss concentration camp where that American guy got raped by Russians.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Looks like the Russian concentration camp where those Russian guys got raped by Russians.
          fixed that for you.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        reminds me of Kamp Krusty

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I bet even post-wall Heather could swallow whole barrel.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I bet even post-wall Heather could swallow whole barrel.

          Damn I remember jerking off to this bitch like 20 years ago. She can still get it tbh

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine being russian lmfao

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only if Europe beg for gas

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Winter will absolutely destroy the Russians. These fuckers can’t even get a matching pair of shoes right now. Ukraine is 100% going to push their offense. I don’t even know how much resistance the Russians will even be able to perform at that time. They’re routing quickly

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Winter is coming which may slow down Ukraine offenses
    No, it won't.
    Have you forgotten that Ukrainian military is fighting on its own soil?
    And that their equipment and tactics will work well in winter?
    This ain't a Napoleon or Wehrmacht scenario, with over extended supply lines and partisans working behind enemy lines.
    Vatmorons will continue to get BTFO all winter long. If not by the Ukrainian military, then by their own piss poor planning and lack of cold weather gear.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ummm Russians are fighting on RUSSIAN soil now mmmmkay?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >implying

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shit, ukrops btfo and lost in foreign land.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This ain't a Napoleon or Wehrmacht scenario, with over extended supply lines and partisans working behind enemy lines
      It definitely is...just not for Ukrainians.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      not anymore, germany stopped their import of russian gaz

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Send all training staff and facilities to fight in Ukraine
    >Sell off winter clothes to pay the repair fees for the yacht
    >Mobilize the only retards too stupid, poor and/or drunk to run to Mongolia or Tbilisi
    >All while fighting against a foe that gets the newest winter gear for free from Poland, Germany or the US
    >'The winter will save us!'
    Breh

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a Norwegian winter recruit I got arctic warfare training. There are a lot more things you have to do during the winter. We changed clothes all the time to avoid sweating too much while on the move, and freezing while standing still. NCOs would inspect your feet every day while out in the field during winter to make sure you are OK. And we had to keep an ancient diesel stove burning all night so we could melt snow to water. Previously mentioned diesel stove had to be watched at all times, if it did not burn clean it could kill your entire tent through carbon monoxide poisoning(biggest killer of Norwegian soldiers). And a bunch of other small routines you have to do during the cold.

    I would doubt that most trained Russian soldiers know what to do out in the cold. They probably spend most of the winter inside. The new waves of conscripts are never going to get winter training. We are going to see a disaster. a Couple of days outside of the city garrison and they will all suffer from hypothermia.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of these conscripts are from rural provinces that don't even have reliable electricity. They'll kind of know what to do because they live it at home.

      Expect coal or wood burning stoves, maybe relit in the morning with lighters.
      I wouldn't expect foot inspections or anything, the guys that aren't alright are just going to lose toes.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >A lot of these conscripts are from rural provinces that don't even have reliable electricity. They'll kind of know what to do because they live it at home.
        I can't wait until spoiled gnomish muscovites get drafted

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Did they have gunfire and artillery raining down on them in their rural homes as well?

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Unmotivated conscripts with no winter gear and food freezing in trenches at -20
    >Lighting a fire exposes you to drone strikes
    >Wolves lurk at nights in the forests

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the absolute worst time to be a conscript is in winter.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine somehow has to keep the offensive going during the winter. If they let off pressure on the Russians and give them time to regroup, it will definately give them a harder time come spring.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. Keep attacking!

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ukies are on their home turf. Russia is fighting in a hostile country with their supply lines getting fucked. Winter is going to rape them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Arguably you could say Ukraine is basically Russia lite in terms of climate, so I doubt it's that much of an advantage.

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not really. Assuming that Ukraine hasn't been preparing for this exact scenario is making the mistake russians have been doing the whole war and the difference is that Ukrainians will get bankrolled everything they need for the winter. The russians were running out of gas a couple weeks into the war so unless Russians have just saved up all their actual equipment for the winter (they haven't) then they'll get shit on.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a theory at this point that the Ukies are saving the Crimea-Russia bridge for winter, so that the existing logistics collapse completely and utterly when it's far too cold/muddy/clogged up to come up with a replacement.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kindly reminder, this happened not in the russian revolution, not in WWI or II, it happened last fucking february.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is this the low quality bot/shill trainee we get on /k these days? Jesus christ... are russians so short on money that they cant even keep the troll farms going on with their usual low but consistent quality?
        What a shame...

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russian anon here, served as conscript. One of the most vivid memories I have of my service is the one time we were herded to an abandoned farm, with no particular purpose other than to stay there for three hours and go back to the base. It was February, the building itself had no glass in windows and no doors, the floor was covered with MRE packages and shit (from previous groups, I assume), and our uniforms could as well be made out of paper. I found a corner, farthest from all windows, where temperature might have been 0.01 Celsius higher than elsewhere, and if someone, anyone, would try to force me out of this corner, I'd murder him. Literally.

    When Ukies call russian soldiers "orcs", at least some of it is referring to the psychological state of man so abused and deprived not just of basic commodities, not only of all direction and purpose, but completely stripped down to basic instincts of survival. No one ever told us what the purpose of three hours in an empty farmhouse was. I don't know to this day. But it made me realise that there is a really nasty creature inside of me, waiting until I'm really cold, hungry and exhausted, to burst out and take control.

    Killing russian mobilized troops this winter will be a mercy kill in 90% times.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bro you getting drafted you goin back to that farmhouse

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good post, fucking winter, man.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you at risk of getting drafted again?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have a very low physical category, so if I'm moobilized, that would mean the situation is completely FUBAR. And I'd resist anyway.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Winter is coming which may slow down Ukraine offenses
    >meanwhile ukies in mud season

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Battlefield 3 Armored Shield Remastered look surprisingly good, do I need an RTX 4090 for that ?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That wasn't mud season I thought. That was like a few days ago. Mud season was March or so.

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm just thinking about this video from the US cold weather training center now. The amount of basic skills, pieces of equipment, and trained procedures needed to do something as simple as efficiently set up a tent in the snow is actually pretty high, as it turns out. In the cold, all those small things that Russia hasn't done to prepare its soldiers really, really add up.
    And all this is with good morale! The assurance that you'll be out in the cold for a few days, but later you'll come back into the warm dry barracks. The assurance that you'll be eating enough calories every day, that your gear has been field-tested, that the tent really does have drying lines so you can keep yourself warm tomorrow...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Swede here, did conscription in the north. When it's -30 you really, really need things to be working as planned and intended. Having to do makeshift repairs with hands that are frozen stiff kind of sucks. I couldn't imagine operating as a soldier in those temps without proper shelter and a good iron stove. Rather kill myself tbh.
      They say when freezing to death it stops hurting. Well, I've not experienced that, but I can tell you that everything about freezing up until that fucking hurts so badly that you're liable to go insane without shelter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        to be fair when you come to that point, it's often too late anyway to be saved re: end stage hypothermia

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah that's true. And I guess most of the pain comes from warming back up again, so if the russkies dont have any shelter, they will be fine! Well, I say fine. I mean there will be no more pain in this world for them.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russians hoping and praying for a reprieve from Ukie advances. In reality Ukraine has big plans for winter to exploit this hope. Id it were me I'd be preparing another battle group specifically for winter operations. One thing is for sure we will see footage of Ukrainian troops in snow camo mauling Russians.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Winter gear aside you have to learn how to keep yourself in a fighting condition. Good fucking luck staying healthy if you sleep in a pool of water and are damp all the time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry the first batch of 300k of conscriptos will be ready, just in time for the next one to be grabbed off the streets and shipped out during the middle of winter.

      They say that disease killed or otherwise incapacitated many, many troops during winters in wars past. We may unironically see Russia return to a time when pneumonia make more casualties on the frontline than bullets did.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pneumonia
        >flu
        >Covid(they only have fucking Spuknik, they're fucked)
        >all this within the HIV/AIDS capital of Europe, 300k newly gangpressed soldiers and an army culture of ass rape
        Oh my fucking God

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The beauty of the Russian situation is that their army will not be competent as long as the people who want to use the army exist.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This winter meme seems to have deluded even russians themselves
    >their conscripts are beyond demoralized, they’re not fighting tooth and nail for their country’s survival
    >their current opposition are familiar with these very same winters as well
    >the russians are now the ones with stretched supply lines “deep” into enemy territory
    >russian military trucks are already using cheap chinese wheels or poorly un-maintained equipment that failed in muddy conditions, snow conditions will be no different. That is if they even have proper mil trucks by the time winter rolls around
    >this isn’t WWII anymore, current warfare capabilities means being able to see where the bulk of your forces are or where your supply convoy is stuck and long range precision strikes within 30 minutes.

    It’s going to be extreme irony that a belief coming out of WWII glory is the same to the russians belief of their military might and doctrine that also came from long past days of WWII glory and cold war hype up that is as out dated as the state of their military.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one tell them General Winter got demoted to Lt Col.

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you already forgotten how winter helped Russia in February?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That was russia with fresh troops, gear, and equipment.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Someone post the 2 timelapse photos I can't find it.

      Also who says we'll see a repeat of that this time in reverse?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >2 timelapse photos
        In 3 months we will add the third photo

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does Russia still use BTGs? Their forces in Ukraine increasingly look like they were cobbled together from whatever men and vehicles are left in a particular area.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      from everything I've seen BTG structure is largely abandoned

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Winter might be what catalyzes significant Russian public unrest against the ongoing war. Food expenses in stores are not going to pair kindly with sheer cold and an inability to buy items.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so you're saying General Unrest will be russia's undoing?

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looking at the state of vatnik camps, the answer is no

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Russia would have a better time in the winter... if they were an adequately equipped army. But to keep those men alive as they are... adding winter to the mix? Bad news.

    >can't sleep anywhere like you can in the summer; you need shelter and/or heat
    >no shrubs, etc to give cover
    >need more clothing, food and supplies in general than other seasons
    >frostbite severely affects combat performance and hits MUCH faster/harder than climate-related ailments during other seasons
    >already questionable-at-best maintained vehicles will be even MORE unreliable in the freezing cold

    >meanwhile Ukraine has unlimited supplies, not just weapons, but supplies of ALL kinds (including winter gear) flowing in from pretty much the entire world.

    What I think is going to be a much more realistic scenario for Russia in the winter:
    >vatniks group together in shelter or vehicles to keep warm
    >no shrubs or anything will hide them; either US satellites or basic drones will spot their congregation every time
    >HIMARS/artillery turning big clusters of tightly grouped vatniks into fertilizer while the Ukrainians advance well-supplied and fed

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Winter will be awful for Russians on the front. I think they'll manage warm clothing - if nothing else they can requisition it from civilians in Russia - there's the matters of...
    >lack of foliage and camouflage (against snow) makes them even more vulnerable to drone and satellite spotting
    >lack of night-vision during longer nights (vs. Western-equipped Ukrainians)
    >they'll be forced to build fires to cook/keep warm which will make them even easier to spot (vs. Ukrainians supplied with self-heating MREs or chemical tablet stoves)

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I expect videos of some delusional Russian shouting at conscripts about how Winter is Russia's greatest ally and that frostbite is bullshit, so they must get up from their ass and charge across the snowy field

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >think Russian winter is some alien planet level of cold
    >look up average temps in Moscow Dec-Feb
    >highs of 27f with lows of 14f and not a lot of precipitation

    Russian winters are the biggest meme in history. Fucking New Jersey has harsher weather.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Northern siberia gets pretty bad, but no one lives there. Most Russians have never experienced a winter worse than an average Minnesota winter,

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia is bigger then gay blue states bro

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The average New Englander lives through a worse winter than the average Russian

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/m44M4tt.jpg

        >think Russian winter is some alien planet level of cold
        >look up average temps in Moscow Dec-Feb
        >highs of 27f with lows of 14f and not a lot of precipitation

        Russian winters are the biggest meme in history. Fucking New Jersey has harsher weather.

        >tfw north dakotan
        >tfw I work in oil, aka outdoors
        >tfw we work through -40 winter chills
        Russians aren't fit to be called men anymore.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, I hate the
      >XAXAXAXA POCCIA IS INVINCIBLE IN LE COLD
      No you dumb cock sucking bottlenecked Vatnik, you aren't the only place on Earth where snow falls. I'd rather live in Moscow year round in Winter than put up with one winter on the coast of the Great Lakes. The cold probably doesn't even effect them because they're all so high off of krokodil.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'd rather live in Moscow year round in Winter than put up with one winter on the coast of the Great Lakes
        I fucking suffer in Ohio. Help.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, New Jersey weather is fucking awful.
      >winters of the northeast
      >summers and humidity like florida
      >tornados and hurricanes
      >earthquakes now as well
      >here have some blueberries, sugar sand and pine trees

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its been said before, but every well known outdoor equipment company should get together and do a massive gear drop for the Ukrainians. Give them every heavy parka and sleeping bag out there. Let the Ukrainians be comfy while the russians freeze.

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fall will slow the advance because of the mud, but once winter hits and the ground freezes the blitz will continue. Winter will not be kind to Private Conscriptovitch.

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    have you heard of global warming? Russia is 50 years too late to try and rely on that defensive technique again

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia simultaneously wants to accelerate global warming to get at all the goodies under the North Pole and also expects General Winter to continue to protect them.

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the fucking deal with this mythology about Russians and winter?

    Unless you're talking about the Far East and Siberia, Russia isn't THAT fucking cold. Moscow itself averages at ~18 degrees Fahrenheit in its coldest month; when I was in ND it got down to -30/40 casually. Russia is in al intensive purposes a temperate zone with boreal forests in its east and north.

    However, exposure IS a fucking thing, and even semi-cold temperatures will shit on you if you get no respite from it. Now you're applying this winter weather to conscripts who are given shit supplies, cloth socks, no food and no decent shelters.

    As long as Ukraine keeps pushing, even if slower, it's going to be a fucking shit show for vatniks as exposure is going to be the main cause for death and desertion. 20 degree weather will still be cold for the Ukrainians too, but some decent winter gear (which they'll have) along with basic infrastructure will let them carry on with fucking gusto

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's literally the result of decades of armchair general retards inventing headcanon to explain how Russia was able to defeat Germany in WWII while absolutely dead set on ignoring the obvious reasons.

      >Equipment from the West.
      >Numbers and total disregard for human life.
      But most of all...
      >Germany already crumbling under the pressure of the Western front and having all their factories blown to shit constantly by air raids, being starved of petroleum, and not a single useful ally.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        one thing i'm glad of for this war is that all those gays who were all "RUSSIA STRONK! COULD HAVE SOLO'D GERMANY 1V1 IN WW2, ALLIES DID NOTHING" have shut up

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          they'll make up their own stab in the back legends when they have the time, "it was all the boyars' fault, not the tsar's!!!!!!" etc.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Totally correct. The Ukies literally only need to keep shifting the lines slowly to prevent a build up proper logistics and shelter. As long as the Russians are on their toes they can't properly shelter or evacuate their cold and sickness casualties. We've already seen maggot boy wasn't evacuated, how are they gonna evacuate hundreds if not thousands of ailing soldiers while under pressure.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        maggot boi was evacuated to a ukrainian hospital
        he might even get to keep the arm now

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          wait really? he got captured or what?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >wait really? he got captured or what?
            In the webm you see a man with a Ukrainian flag patch look at his arm. He's a POW.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >wait really? he got captured or what?
            In the webm you see a man with a Ukrainian flag patch look at his arm. He's a POW.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >the paleness of the hand
              Honestly more concerning than the maggots. If they're the species that only eat dead flesh instead of live & dead then they're doing a better job of keeping that wound clean and rot-free than the Russian medics ever could.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's true, anon. Also is seems that hand is starting to shift a little bit towards black. He was probably hours from developing gangrene when the ukie medics got to him.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This. There's plenty of war stories of maggots eating necrotic flesh and in turn preventing the loss of limb.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >wait really? he got captured or what?
          In the webm you see a man with a Ukrainian flag patch look at his arm. He's a POW.

          wait really? he got captured or what?

          [...]

          I thought maggots in a wound were actually ok as they only ate necrotic tissue that would kill you?

          • 2 months ago
            /out/ie

            Depends on the maggot. Also, they shit into the wound, which infects it, which means more dead tissue. It's not getting better left alone.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Maggots, gasoline soak, doctor?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Certain types of maggots can be used for wound cleaning, but you should remove the maggots very quickly afterwards because they will keep infecting the more flesh if left in the wound.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sterile maggots dude. Not random ones from the wild with infections and diseases themselves. Plus they have to be removed quickly or they eat you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Getting cut open with a scalpel is good if it's a surgeon doing it in an operating theater and you have appendicitis. It's not good if you're being cut open by a crackhead in an alleyway because the voices told him there's gold inside your ass.
            Kinda the same thing with maggots.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            kek, you still need to fucking treat the wound and especially the injury with something besides maggots

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another dumb aspect to this is they act as if Russians are Nords from some fantasy game who get buffs in the cold, but conveniently forget to mention that in their worldview Ukrainians are actually just Russians who have been confused into thinking they're not Russians, meaning Ukrainians should get the same buffs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >cloth socks
      foot wraps
      socks got winter cloth'd

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you have to understand how most stupid russians still cling to the Great Patriotic War and dont think about lend-lease

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are alot more roads and vehicles around than in WWII. Winter shouldn't be a big problem.

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    North Face and Columbia just donated hundreds of thousands of winter gear to Ukraine and the UAF

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In addition to everything mentioned above, winter is night vision season and in spite of being perfectly capable of manufacturing gen 3 NVGs Russia is not getting them to the field, but a big part of NATO gibs is giving Ukraine NVGs and thermals.

    • 2 months ago
      /out/ie

      How do thermals fare in winter? Obviously the difference between a body and snow is larger, but what about condensation, electronics in lower temperature, batteries?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good thermals do fine, they're built with a very wide range of potential background temperatures. The US-made ones that magically went missing from the US shipping creates at the same time our guys found some did well, presumably because of non-Chinesium parts and the US having a pretty wide range of geography and temperatures to cover. Shitty Chinesium ones suffer badly from condensation, which when you have a thing attached to a sweaty face in subzero temps you will definitely get, and if the batteries are bad too they barely hold power.

        Guess who gets which ones.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Guess who gets which ones.
          Ooo, oo, I know this!

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Human body burns more calories in cold, because it needs to maintain temperature and it needs more fluids too. If either is missing or inadequate, the conscriptovich will get cold quite fast. If it's humid as well as near-0 C, the cold feels worse if you're not fed and watered well.
    Cold fucks with morale. People can get jittery and angry unless they get to dry and warm themselves, some get extremely apathetic. Warm, dry shelter, adequate clothing and possibility to dry gear of moisture is an absolute must if one wants to prevent hypothermia, bouts of rage and frostbite.
    Talking about moisture, it seeps in from everywhere. It's on the ground in form of frost and snow, it's in the air as humidity and it's in the conscriptovich as sweat. Sweat will wet clothing very fast and so thoroughly that the conscriptovich will get hypothermic before HIMARS arrives. Sweat will also wet socks (or in conscriptovich's case his footwraps), which can lead to frostbite and trenchfoot, both of which are easier to get and will be worse if one is not watered and fed well. Again, warm, dry shelter combined with adequate amount of extra clothing is a must because otherwise the clothes won't dry and conscriptovich will die.

    That's just the biological machinery, the mechanical machinery will start to suffer cold-related reliability issues. I'd wager a bet that some Russian tanks will have electrical faults up the ass in sub-0 C temperatures. Then there's the stiffening of oils and other liquids inside the vehicles that cause strain on pipes and lines. Rubber loses some of its strength in the cold, metals get more brittle, machines burn more fuel. Cold fucks with everything. However, the worst effect for Russians will be the human suffering from cold and wet conditions, not the machinery.

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better question is how many conscripts will even be alive by the time winter hits, it sounds like disease may run it's course pretty harshly through the lines with how things are going. Some of these poor fucks are going to be dead before they even leave russia.

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >save Russia
    From what? Is there anyone besides Monke and his court at the Kremlin that actually pose an existential threat to Russia?

  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Winter is coming which may slow down Ukraine offenses
    It's eastern Europe, not deep Russia. Winter in Mariupol isn't colder than winter in Chicago.
    >This slow down will allow Russia time to actually train their 300k people
    Train who and by who and how? Everytime some says "if only Japs did this..." or "if only Hitler didn't do that..." - I'm aswering: "but these were Japs! That was Hitler! These decisions is what made them what they were".
    So now: this is Russia! If they weren't so corrupted and stupid, there wouldn't be this war in the first place.
    >300k actually trained conscripts could be enough to save Russia
    If it's 300k fully equiped, fully trained by NATO standards it would be stalemate. However it will be 1million of cannon fodder whose life expectancy will be counted in hours. I mean look at these motherfuckers - it's like of Russia wants them all to become POWs to ruin Ukrainian economy by guarding and feeding them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a surprising amount of fat people among the conscripts. Don't the russians realize that these fat people are going to injure themselves long before they even get to the front? Marching with heavy packs will absolutely destroy their ankles and knees. And then they will just put additional strain on logistics without having contributed anything. Arrgh I swear this is being handled by alcoholic retards.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fat guys double as rations in russian army.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It all makes sense now.

      • 2 months ago
        /out/ie

        >Don't the russians realize
        You see, Anon, that is the thing about them ...

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How is Russia going to get 300k troops to the front?

    pic related.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Russians might actually try to march them to the front. 2 weeks later and they'll have 150 thousand casualties from injuries sustained on the march.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This reminds me of that one truck filled with dudes with shotguns
      I think its from the 80's

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know about winter, but I have a feeling that the longer Russians last, the more they'll militarize their industries thus escalating further and further.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Industries
      They are making cars without airbags. Their production sucks ass and it ain't gonna get better fast with the sanctions in place.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Short term issues

        Nature hates vacuum. So some Russian other company will arise to fill the gap.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They don't have materials to make things with, you retard. Nor the know-how.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they'll militarize their industries thus escalating further and further.
      Would require them to have industries in the first place and a freely available workforce.
      Russia does not really have either.

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every year approximately 200,000 Ukrainian males turn 18, almost every single one of them willing to die defending their country.

  82. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >navy
    bro they're in bumfuck russia in auschwitz sheds, were you in the puccian navy or what

  83. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >allow Russia time to actually train their 300k people

    Having 3 months of gay sex instead of 2 weeks isn't an improvement.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But after 3 months of training a well used russian twink can cause officers to blow a load with just a tongue flick

  84. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >December 2022
    >In a series of pits in the mud outside Melitopol, you shiver and try to move your toes inside your gumboots
    >Can't feel them, not sure whether it's frostbite, trench foot or just that these boots you pulled off a corpse a few metres away are no better fitting than the last set you stole
    >Next to you, Sergei hasn't said anything for a while. You shove him, he grunts, but his lips are blue
    >You turn, adjusting the AKM so it doesn't fall into the slimy half-frozen muck at the bottom of the hole
    >"Starshnina? Starshina! Where's the recon platoon?"
    >No response
    >"Cyka blyat Flyora, where's the Starshy?"
    >Flyora's voice is weak
    >"He's not moving blyat"
    >before you can process the answer there's a thundering boom, you duck as a 155mm shell bursts on the line 50m in front of you
    >between the snow flurries you can see the flashing torch of one of your company's BTRs burning
    >dimly wonder if that was the one with the working turret
    >with an effort, you take out your phone. Signal is bad here and it's almost out of battery, but you can get some internet
    >"Russia is advancing on all fronts, according to President Putin's daily summary"
    >"Soon Kherson will be liberated from Ukrainian tyranny"
    >"The enemy's occupation of Melitopol was planned in advance to trap and destroy them"
    >"The Kerch bridge is providing valuable assistance to our soldiers in the line"
    >"The next wave of conscripts are ready to serve their motherland"
    >"Wagner units successfully advanced, they are only 25km from Bakhmut now"
    >You smile as the distant echo of another shell burst crashes around the freezing wasteland
    >everything is going to plan

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder what the documentaries and movies about this war will be like.
      There's so much footage, so much statistics and so many stories to dissect for material.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wew

  85. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    russia will barely keep its own pumps running now that putin cant pay norwegians and americans through gazprom
    ethnic russians are so fucking stupid they dont trust them to work oil rigs or refineries, they ship in foreigners and even tuvans or buryats before ethnic russians
    crazy how hard it is for a country to not have cities so fucking air polluted it lessens its inhabitants lifespan

  86. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only the Westerns Europe can save Russia
    https://tass.com/world/1519037

  87. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol why would winter slow them done ya fag? its not the artic. its only get to like -10c at most

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      -10C is plenty cold enough to kill ill-prepared and outfitted troops.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sleeping in a foxhole at -2C without a winter uniform is very likely to put your ass down.

        wtf this is not ww1 jesus you people are tards

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I hope you die on the Donetsk front you dumb fucking vatnik

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mud and weather are still the same as back then you absolute fucking brainlet. If anything the soldiers back in WW1 were better equipped since they all had woolen uniforms which isolates and warms even when wet. The russian cotton/nylon supercrap uniforms they are wearing now will sap the heat out of the body in no time at all when wet.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >wtf this is not ww1
            Cold kills even in 2022
            Crazy, I know

            It won't kill you on 1st day. But those soldiers won't be exposed to such conditions for onky one day. It will be prolonged exposure, that will take days, weels, months even abd combine that with harsh physical conditions and intense activity, stres, alcoholism, lack of food and I speculate that 10-15% of them are fucked and will be going back to home in body bags or at least with serious pneumonia.

            THEY ARE NOT LAYING IN MUD PUDDLES YOU DUMB moronS ALSO IT ONLY GET TO -4C AT LIKE END OF FUCKING DECEMEBR IN UKRIANE YOU GUYS ARE BOTS OR JUST LEGIT MORONS

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              moron have you seen the state of Russian camps and uniform?
              They are literally sleeping in mud filled trenches.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no because they war is fake and gay and there is zero footage of front line footage.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fucking retard.
                Schizos should be euthanized

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >wtf this is not ww1
            Cold kills even in 2022
            Crazy, I know

            It won't kill you on 1st day. But those soldiers won't be exposed to such conditions for onky one day. It will be prolonged exposure, that will take days, weels, months even abd combine that with harsh physical conditions and intense activity, stres, alcoholism, lack of food and I speculate that 10-15% of them are fucked and will be going back to home in body bags or at least with serious pneumonia.

            THEY CAN ALSO PULL BACK AND FORCE THE RUSSIAN TO LAY IN MUD PUDDLES SEEING HOW YOU RETARDS THINK THATS HOW MODERN WARS ARE FOUGHT.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You are literally screeching incoherently. You have lost the argument.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Describe to us just "how modern wars are fought." Im'a go make a large batch of popcorn.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >wtf this is not ww1
          Cold kills even in 2022
          Crazy, I know

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It won't kill you on 1st day. But those soldiers won't be exposed to such conditions for onky one day. It will be prolonged exposure, that will take days, weels, months even abd combine that with harsh physical conditions and intense activity, stres, alcoholism, lack of food and I speculate that 10-15% of them are fucked and will be going back to home in body bags or at least with serious pneumonia.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sleeping in a foxhole at -2C without a winter uniform is very likely to put your ass down.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's cold AND wet. Without proper protection this will either kill you or weaken your stamina and strength so much you'll in no condition to fight.

  88. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    nope bad weather always favorites the occupied.

  89. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Can winter save a conscript army with no snivel gear?

  90. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You do realize this war has been going on since 2014 right? The past 8 winters have not helped Russia. so why would this one?

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