Can someone explain to me how the frick you can crash a plane and then blame the manufacturer when everyone else is doing just fine?

Can someone explain to me how the frick you can crash a plane and then blame the manufacturer when everyone else is doing just fine?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You might actually be mentally moronic, sorry OP

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Simultaneous failure of all gyroscope which has never ever occurred before according to Lockheed. Basically saying that Lockheed thinks Singapore is full of shit but is being political about it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/N4mBin0.jpeg

        >quad redundant gyro failure
        I mean nothings impossible. Sounds more like a some sort of power failure but I dunno, wasn't there.

        The units probably get swapped to a spare when they break and sent back to lockheed to be fixed. Effectively zero maintenance on Singapore's part.

        Singapore said that gyro maintenance allegedly isn't part of the maintenance program provided to them by Lockheed

        Is it your fault if your computer crashes because you didn't run the M387.exe program every month, but it's not in the user manual?

        [...]
        >which has never ever occurred before according to Lockheed
        This is more of an excuse than the other IMHO.
        "Well that never happened before!" vs. "You didn't tell me I need to do that!"

        >odds of mechanical failure in all four pitch gyros, which are on different electrical buses in different parts of the plane, with wiring going through different parts of the plane, is basically zero
        >likeliest explanation is a software error simultaneously feeding a bad input from all four gyros to the flight control computer

        Lockmart probably outsourced development to the same jeet programmers responsible for the 737 MAX MCAS lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's fricking always a software issue.
          Hang all programmers, decapitate all programmers, you get the rest...

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Programmers are the bane of humanity. They need to be culled. Ruining every single fricking weapons system they get their greasy hands on.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's fricking always a software issue.
            >Hang all programmers, decapitate all programmers, you get the rest...
            Don't blame us we lost our jobs to jeets because HR said they were cheaper and just as good even though the jeets told us that they fake having degrees because they have big families to support back in India.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Writing good code is possible, but it's really fricking expensive.

              Thank god AI will soon make programmers obsolete while writing perfect code. We can go back to nonbloat software.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Writing good code is possible, but it's really fricking expensive.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >most complex system by far
            >too many responsibilities shoved on it to cut costs
            >teams responsible for it are understaffed and overworked at best, pajeet frauds at worst, again to cut costs
            >high quality work is not rewarded (or even noticed), all that matters is how quickly you can get it done
            Imagine blaming the programmers and not the managers.

            [...]
            Thank god AI will soon make programmers obsolete while writing perfect code. We can go back to nonbloat software.

            Lol, lmao.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, software frickup is the leading suspect right now according to the investigators

          >The flight data recorder recovered from the crashed F-16 showed that its pitch rate gyroscopes gave erroneous inputs to the flight control computer. This led to the pilot being unable to control the plane at take-off.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wouldn’t that be blaming the maintenance crew?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Singapore said that the gyroscopes dont need to be maintained and that they are completely faultless. That its all lockheed's fault. Which is bullshit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >quad redundant gyro failure
        I mean nothings impossible. Sounds more like a some sort of power failure but I dunno, wasn't there.

        The units probably get swapped to a spare when they break and sent back to lockheed to be fixed. Effectively zero maintenance on Singapore's part.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>quad redundant gyro failure
          Redundancy doesn't mean a lot if it happens to be implemented incorrectly, there were a few incidents in the civilian world like Qantas Flight 72 where systems were partially functional but still did something stupid. F-16 doesn't fly as many hours as commercial jets so it wouldn't be surprising there was an ultra rare issue with DFLCS that manifested itself for the first time

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Redundancy also doesn't mean guarantee

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Singapore said that gyro maintenance allegedly isn't part of the maintenance program provided to them by Lockheed

        Is it your fault if your computer crashes because you didn't run the M387.exe program every month, but it's not in the user manual?

        Simultaneous failure of all gyroscope which has never ever occurred before according to Lockheed. Basically saying that Lockheed thinks Singapore is full of shit but is being political about it.

        >which has never ever occurred before according to Lockheed
        This is more of an excuse than the other IMHO.
        "Well that never happened before!" vs. "You didn't tell me I need to do that!"

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do you explain the thousands of other F-16s that don't have random crashes from malfunctioning gyroscopes? Chinese shills hard at work.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you explain F22s and F35s crashing, homosexual?
      Shit just happens sometimes

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sometimes the swiss cheese holes do align.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh hey i too have safety job

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Singapore has operated about 70 F-16s since 1990, they have lost four in crashes. That's an incredibly high loss rate

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So one Class A per 8.5 years? That's not at all "high" on its face. Do you have comparative flight hours data showing otherwise?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/A8s7bBA.jpeg

        Is there a vid for the crash?
        It'd give a good idea if they're bullshitting or not.
        I doubt they are lying, however, all 4 gyros failing at once is really odd.

        Like [...] said, that's not bad at all.
        Have some fun and get learned up
        https://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/mishaps-and-accidents/airforce/USAF/
        You can also change it to check specific countries/by year/etc.
        Hell the f35 and f22 has had less accidents by volume compared to the f16, f14, and b1b and I think even the f15, and people shit on them because they're entirely uneducated.

        Most Americans and Australians on /k/ have a hateboner for Singapore because they transferred F-35 secrets to China

        They're buying F-35s, and possibly more F-15s eventually.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its you again, indog falseflagger.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >oh no the benchod indog found the thread
            pack it up

            who was the other guy? armatard? we have a new racial type?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >new
              not new
              we think it's the same indonesian twat who posts the same copypastas about Malaysian, Singaporean and Australian stuff
              >the omission is glaring

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The F-35s they aren't receiving until 2027?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            F-35 prospective users are given information ahead of any sales or transfers to allow them to familiarize and integrate them into their doctrine/existing networks. USAF/USMC and RAAF F-35s have already visited Singapore several times, and the Singapore air force has trained against both at Pitch Black and other exercises.

            You can bet most of what they have learned has been passed on to China

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This is why it's insane to me that we're open to selling this aircraft to a place with such heavy concentration of enemy nation spies (Singapore). We're basically giving the Chinese F-35 reverse engineering basis for free if we do that. China now knows every corner of that plane, imagine spending a trillion dollars on this lmao

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Most Americans and Australians on /k/ have a hateboner for Singapore because they transferred F-35 secrets to China
          Please elaborate on this.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Americans decided to sell F-35 to Singapore.
            >Doesn't realize that Singapore is another Communist China province.
            >Singapore allowed PLAAF 'technician' to inspect the F-35 in the name of Chinese brotherhood and supremacy
            >Just a year later F-35 got surpassed by advanced Shenyang FC-31 version.

            I laughed hard when I saw news that the US is going to sell F-35s to Singapore. The moment those jets land in Singapore there is going to be an army of Chinese spies ready to dig into whatever areas they haven't stolen already.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >https://desuarchive.org/k/search/text/singapore%20plaaf%20technician/
              this is why everyone hates indogs
              your mom is a prostitute, your dad is a pig, and you're not even a basement dweller because you don't have a basement, indogs live in trees

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Any thread even tangentially mentioning Singapore or the F-35 gets filled with American and Australian shitposters mad about how close to or compromised by China they are

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There are no American or Australian posters. Just one singular Indonesian larping as Malaysian.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m Australian and I hate them, mainly cause they are majority chinese and see them as suspect

                This is why it's insane to me that we're open to selling this aircraft to a place with such heavy concentration of enemy nation spies (Singapore). We're basically giving the Chinese F-35 reverse engineering basis for free if we do that. China now knows every corner of that plane, imagine spending a trillion dollars on this lmao

                That’s been my whole argument about not trusting Singapore
                Which makes certain morons in this thread seethe

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I’m Australian and I hate them, mainly cause they are majority chinese and see them as suspect
                Post your passport then. Ive asked you to do so for many threads and youve failed to do so in every one of them.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Keep seething, chang

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is an Australian war criminal enthusiast who posts here. Likes summary executions and all that shit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i'll give you a summary you if you keep it up

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sounded pretty aussie to me. You don't.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          F-35 prospective users are given information ahead of any sales or transfers to allow them to familiarize and integrate them into their doctrine/existing networks. USAF/USMC and RAAF F-35s have already visited Singapore several times, and the Singapore air force has trained against both at Pitch Black and other exercises.

          You can bet most of what they have learned has been passed on to China

          Let me start by saying I'm actually fairly pissed about this. Singapore isn't a trusted ally that we know is going to defend F-35 design secrets and they're way too close to China's sphere of influence.

          In all seriousness, perhaps we could protest our concerns to the American military. American Anons can protest in DC, or in the downtown of their city, or by their closest military base or recruiting station. At the same time, the rest of us can begin the social media campaign to prevent these sales. The PLA may already have stolen the F-35's secrets, but we won't just let the military hand them over 12 fricking planes. If enough of us protest and if we are loud enough, they will hear, and at the very least, other Americans will hear. More people must know of the Chinese menace.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Most Americans and Australians on /k/ have a hateboner for Singapore because they transferred F-35 secrets to China
          Please elaborate on this.

          Any thread even tangentially mentioning Singapore or the F-35 gets filled with American and Australian shitposters mad about how close to or compromised by China they are

          I’m Australian and I hate them, mainly cause they are majority chinese and see them as suspect

          [...]
          That’s been my whole argument about not trusting Singapore
          Which makes certain morons in this thread seethe

          You are truly one of the most schizoid posters on this whole website. Years of delusional fixation.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >schizoid
            I dont think you know what that word means. Theres a difference between Schizoid and Schizophrenia.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is there a vid for the crash?
      It'd give a good idea if they're bullshitting or not.
      I doubt they are lying, however, all 4 gyros failing at once is really odd.

      Like

      So one Class A per 8.5 years? That's not at all "high" on its face. Do you have comparative flight hours data showing otherwise?

      said, that's not bad at all.
      Have some fun and get learned up
      https://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/mishaps-and-accidents/airforce/USAF/
      You can also change it to check specific countries/by year/etc.
      Hell the f35 and f22 has had less accidents by volume compared to the f16, f14, and b1b and I think even the f15, and people shit on them because they're entirely uneducated.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Is there a vid for the crash?
        Suspiciously no. Likely the pilot or the maint crew fricked up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're an incredible homosexual

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just like all those f35 failures. Always the pilots fault of course

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are f-16s obsolete? Crashing like this cant be good. Is Singapore upgrading and buying Gripens or Eurofighters?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're buying F-35s, and possibly more F-15s eventually.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >F-15s
        Obsolete garbage. 50 fricking years old.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Did my post make you so mad that you started a whole new F-15 thread?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >oh no the benchod indog found the thread
    pack it up

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if it's a bad design and everyone else is just putting up with it, why wouldn't you be able to discuss it's shortcomings?

    pic rel can't eject a mag without breaking the shooting grip, unlike pretty much every autoloader that came before it, but it's the most popular gun among the masses because it's cheap and they don't shoot

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't lately singapore has f15 parts falling out during a airshow?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the strategic impact of Indogs being poor?

    https://asianews.network/inequality-increases-slightly-as-poverty-declines-in-indonesia/

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the strategic impact of Indogs being unable to afford fricking RICE?

    https://www.thejakartapost.com/opinion/2024/03/07/increase-in-rice-prices-exacerbates-poverty.html

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the strategic impact of Indogs being corrupt as frick?

    https://www.kompas.id/baca/english/2024/05/21/en-pemberantasan-korupsi-setengah-hati

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the strategic impact of Indogs being the number one prostitution hub in the region?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >quadruple-redundant system failed all at once
    LMAO okay, Singapore. If you say so

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