Can Russia keep up the flow of weapons and mobiks for another 2-3 years?

The strategy isn't to win, it's to literally buy time until it's not pic related's problem anymore via death (cancer + already at the average age for Russian male life expectancy) and someone else can clean up the mess. Can Russia just force a stalemate for that long with sacrifices of young men and old material?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sod's law dictates that Putin will live a long time even if he has every degenerative disease short of krokodil necrosis, and if the Russians truly wanted to stall things out, they would be playing a defensive game instead of grinding their way to trophy victories.

    I don't think their really is a Russian plan, and Putin is probably getting mislead a great deal by terrified underlings.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they would be playing a defensive game
      Care to explain how they would do that?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Care to explain how they would do that?

        Pack mobiks and penal troops into captured urban spaces all the way back to Melitopol. Hope they learn some basic soldiering through osmosis while they're committing atrocities there. Meanwhile, at the front, try to be more elastic and use combined arms to push back attacks.

        But anything would be more defensive than using hundreds of untrained men to probe killing fields like the fucking bugs from Starship Troopers.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Elastic defense does not really work when then enemy is interested only chasing you up to border and it is only few kilometers over a flat terrain to the said border. In practice it would be retreat with little gains.
          Basically for defensive strategy Russia is currently limited to either trying to reinforce the line, which works pretty badly against modern militaries, or trying to push forward to prevent Ukraine from attacking. There could be alternative options if russian doctrine was flexible enough, but its all top-down lead bullshit all the way down, which makes such flexibility basically impossible.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fair enough. I do think think even a vague defensive posture among Russian forces would work better than the current shit, though, at least for dragging things out.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sure, but Russia has really played themselves into a hole here. They would need time to unfuck their stupid doctrine(if they are even capable of such), but Ukraine is not interested in giving them such time. So Russia is trying to buy that time by burning mobik blood but regardless of what Russia likes to posture, they really do not have infinite amount of mobiks either.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They had about 9.6 million young men under/at the age of 30 (less the casualties already taken) so around 9.1 million at the beginning of 2022. I think they have around ~500k-800k mobilized now less that? So 8.3ish million or maybe even 8 million left, that's all the men 30/under they have to draw upon. Let's say another 500,000 manning the borders and another 200,000 under 30 for internal troops and we're down to 7.5 millionish but that's not accounting for the 500,000 who fled. So, 7 million left...but that's for the entire male population of employment/fighting age under 30.

                That's really not great unless he plans to strip all the civilian and non-law enforcement government jobs of their young men.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't think their really is a Russian plan, and Putin is probably getting mislead a great deal by terrified underlings.
      I feel this might be one of the biggest issues in the conflict so far, and it's certainly not a new one.
      The guy who was responsible for leading the first Chechen war also said "We could take Grozny in a day" only to drunkenly order his troops into the city, this ended in the Grozny freight station battle which resulted in 90% Russian fatalities, almost none of which made it out.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    probably, actually- you can get a lot done if you don't care about living or recovering afterwards
    it means russia goes from "endangered species" to "extinct in the wild", but they can do so

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Catagorically, yes.

    Speaking from historical precedent, neither Russia or Ukraine is going to get folded by a demographic crisis or weapon shortage anywhere within the next 4 years. Probably will find specialists and heavy equipment become progressively more valuable, but that is neither here nor there. Attrition count isn't nearly enough for either side to be a breaking point and if you think it is, I want you to google the average monthly casualties during WW1 and never comment on matters of warfare again.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Two more weeks two more weeks two more weeks Russia will fall in two more weeks just wait

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Their plan is to keep fighting until the west moves on to the next current thing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      19 more years?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just until China, Iran or some other country decides to do something that distracts western supplies.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ukraine is a major european grain supplier, it's pretty much the number 1 priority barring taiwan or the strait of hormuz, and the west is already attempting to decouple from eastern dependence to make taiwan less of a necessity

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          China's not doing shit BECAUSE of the example this war sets, and both it and Iran have domestic fish to fry.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You don't know shit about China, Yankee retard. The day will come.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              When? It's literally been thousands of years and all China has done is eat shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Trust in Xi's plan. China must first achieve naval dominance as well as missile dominance. This will be complete by 2035. Then, the US will have no choice but to accept Chinese reunification, even if by force.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                China might wanna figure out demographic dominance and economic dominance first. Seeing as the country is teetering on implosion, totally dependent on unsanctioned exports and only keeps maintains regime security with gulags and wunderwaffen propaganda. China doesn't win wars.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The US hasn't won a war since 1945, fat boy.

                Also, US white births are below Chinese in replacement levels.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're neither white nor Chinese

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not from the U.S. you cockroach, and "X bad thing about the U.S." doesn't mean that "X bad thing about China" isn't true.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                US doesn't have problems China have. US have everything they need to not get rekt in coming years. Biggest food exporter, biggest energy exporter, biggest tech exporter. And China is completely depended on imports for all that. Without US and the west China will literally starve to death and there will be no youngs to keep its economy from collapsing. Everyone knows China lies about their demographics, but even by ccp numbers its dying now and there's nothing they can do

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A nation dependent on being the world's factory cannot be the world's tyrant.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is wrong. We'll just glass you and sell Chevys to ayyys. But seriously it is eminently possible to be an economic powerhouse and military tyrant at the same time. Look at the East India Company or company towns in gilded age America for a historical precedent.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Of course nobody would want that scenario
                It would take a huge blow to US economy to rebuild these factories in Mexico, Brazil or another shithole, in case of emergency, but it still survives and average joe would be enjoying his bigmack. But China would just simply go from 1 to 0.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                By 2035 the US military will have built up enough that China will be saying they'll be ready to invade in 2050.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Xi is an incompetent buffoon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That abrupt U-turn on Zero-COVID wasn't sheer stupidity? 60,000 Chinese died in one month.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Chinese lives are, and have always been, cometely expandable.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You get that everyday 50.000 Chinese are dying?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wonder how he survived that loss of face.
                He literally had to admit he was wrong.
                Isn't that supposed to be impossible in China?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I wonder how he survived that loss of face.
                >He literally had to admit he was wrong.
                >Isn't that supposed to be impossible in China?
                lmfao, you gays tried to start feminist rioting to coup Iran,
                and you tried to use "Zero-covid" to coup China

                liberal fascists, and the 'rules based liberal world order' are so goddamn fucking other-worldly incompetent, they will have the english language will need new phrases to describe the extent of their pathetic failure

                lol face coverings in Iran
                like you literally thought that would work?

                lol covid policy riots?
                coming from western countries that jack-booted the Canadian nation with faceless, balaclava AR-15 armed troops for the exact same thing?

                lol ZERO self awareness
                thats why you fail every time now
                thats why the ukrainian shilling was so God awful gayy, doomed to failure

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >be Xi
                >not an idiot
                >start trade war with australia to punish them
                >refuse to target their no.1 export, iron ore
                >keep buying their coal through india and indonesia
                >keep buying their natural gas because winter is coming
                >Australian exports to china increase
                >Australian trade surplus with china reach record highs
                >not an idiot

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >once I finish building up my supply of superweapons and attack those puny and effeminate westerners will have no choice but to capitulate!
                I wonder if the reason these chucklefucks never seem to learn is because we keep killing the ones who try it before they can pass on their experience

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      China isn't ready to make a move on Taiwan until 2027-2028 so that's about four to five years from now and that's if they decide to do so in the first place which looks a lot less likely now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The PLAN actually says they need until 2030 to be able to claim superiority over the US in the Pacific.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >PLAN says

          Okay so 2050 then Russia just needs to keep fighting for another 27 years.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I believe everything the Pentagon says but not the Chinese.
            Cope fatboy. Soon.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              i much prefer the subtlety of chinese propaganda

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Chink think is genuinely astounding

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I love this picture for the sole reason that Japan's only strength is its navy. It would CRUSH plan

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >how did china catch up
              because japan fucked with the us
              >the same brilliant plan you seem to think will go well for you

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How much brainrot, lack of pussy, and russian disinformation does one have to bear to consider reality itself to be a globalist conspiracy?

      Do you think God himself is an evil garden gnome scheming against you?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your comment has literally nothing to do with my comment.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Do you think God himself is an evil garden gnome scheming against you?

        Well if you turned out like them wouldn't you be a little suHispanicious?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Best case scenario for either side is for a ceasefire in 2023 with Russia holding on to its pre-2022 holdings in Ukraine but giving up everything else.

    The longer it drags on, people elsewhere will stop paying attention and that's when Ukraine starts getting fewer supplies from Europe.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Governments won't stop paying attention - especially the US and UK, other Euros might cuck put but the US and UK spent decades in the Middle East and spent trillions, if you think they will let this chance pass by then you're deluded. People hated the Iraq war here and it didn't stop it from dragging on for years.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The UK will be under a Labour government soon. One that has already expressed concern about the amount being spent supporting Ukraine and that has a large Corbynite (far-left) faction.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tories have gerrymandered voting constituencies and the press will go on a witch hunt if anything close to Corbyn gets close to power. Next Labour leader, maybe in decades' time, will be Blair #2.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tories are polling at 21% while Labour are on 48%. No amount of gerrymandering can save them. It is over for neocon Britain soon.

            you're neither white nor Chinese

            Yes, I am too based to be either.

            I'm not from the U.S. you cockroach, and "X bad thing about the U.S." doesn't mean that "X bad thing about China" isn't true.

            You have the American cock placed firmly in your mouth. That, you cannot deny.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It is over for neocon Britain soon.

              Both parties are neocon. Tories are just more overt about it. Britain's not in South America. Also, China is shit at war.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You will see neocon Yank. You will see.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                2 more weeks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                1 more year (until UK elections).

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >hello sir

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That dream died the first week of March 2022. The rest of the world has seen too much, invested too much since then.

      russia is over

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let's see how the next 2-3 months go, first. Then we can revisit the question.

    > tl;dr - No.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm with the chinkspammer. China numba one! America numba two! Buy the XB-100 in large numbers because the dogeaters are a credible threat.
    t. defense contractor

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t think so. I have really looked into military history and I paid attention to this war in great detail.
    Thinks are not looking good. The large Ukrainian demands for 300 MBT to make any new offensive possible is indicative. Ukraine is also having troubles to draft people.
    Think about it who is in command of the units doing the drafting in Ukraine.
    It’s the ministry of the interior.
    And now they suddenly the entire leadership dies in a helicopter crash?
    You heard it here first.
    It’s not an accident. This extremely likely was a message it’s quite obvious.
    I don’t care about being called a shill by the hysterical. So do it. It’s for the intelligent people. I don’t have no dog in this fight. But I like being correct about things. Things are going into a very different direction than most could even start to fathom.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The bait is out there.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russian pretends to understand something by being cryptic about it.
      >Fucks up the deceit by not knowing what the Ministry of the Interior is.

      Many such cases, sad.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I‘m not sure, if I get your point. Are you alluding to the Ukrainians calling it внyтpiшнiх cпpaв Укpaїни meaning ministry of internal affairs … or what.
        I somehow suspect you either wanted to call be a Russian very badly or you are autistic - in which case I like it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus, even the autistic Russians project.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Can Russia keep up the flow of weapons and mobiks for another 2-3 years?
    Of mobiks - yes. Same for Ukraine. Until the end of this war there will be enough of manpower for both sides. However, what Russia will eventually run out of are convicts. This is the current source of their cannon fodder. They can't really use mobiks the same way, because internal political consequences will be much more stronger, than using convicts that nobody cares about. Plus mobiks are in the official military, while convicts are in the PMCs. Both sides will start suffer from losing their specialists, but I think Ukraine has a better ability to grow new ones through the war, while Russia can provide higher quantities of lower quality forces.

    Can't say the same about weapons and ammo. Like Perun said, it depends on different things for both of the side: for Russia it will be ability to scale up (or at least keep the same rate of) production, while for Ukraine it will be ability to keep up the political support through the war.

    >Can Russia just force a stalemate for that long with sacrifices of young men and old material?
    Yes. However, if Ukraine will be able to conduct successful large scale offensive operations, it kind of doesn't matter and will become pointless for Russia to keep doing so.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Can Russia keep up the flow of weapons and mobiks for another 2-3 years?
    Yes, Russia is fighting a literal invasion on its own doorstep, most of the fighting is on Russian soil. the only issue will be the speed of which it can deliver not the "IF" it even has supplies, because it does and its very easy to see

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia is fighting an invasion

      No Russia has invaded another country's land, and it will die for it.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Ukraine can't, though.
    Russia is winning and will win.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      did wagner manage to pinch a copium stash in soledar or something? vatniks are getting delusional again

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >did wagner manage to pinch a copium stash in soledar or something? vatniks are getting delusional again
        wagner-felons blasted you fags in your faces for flunking "how to surrender:101",
        and did fucking front flips like some kind of 80's movie to get out the trench afterwards.
        pretty embarrassing for you lol.
        the sommersaulter of soledar

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