Most won't, but there's nothing stopping someone from making or selling one that theoretically could more often than not, as long as there's a soft jacket if it uses hard, dense materials so as to not fuck up the bore.
Typically, you want deformation, but in a consistent and reliable fashion. The more energy converted into wounding, the better, at least if the intended target is human. I could see hunters preferring penetration sans wild and unpredictable yawing or deformation that can cause wild trajectory changes, but that also seems like it would be dependent on the cartridge, loading, and target.
>The more energy converted into wounding, the better, at least if the intended target is human.
Two things with that. First is that not all tissue is equally important. The important stuff is usually pretty deep within the body, while the superficial bits are things you can survive without. This means that even against humans, ensuring sufficient penetration is the first priority.
Second by phrasing it in energy terms like that some people start thinking they only need to worry about how much energy the bullet lost passing through the target. However, only a small and variable part of the energy the bullet looses actually goes into tearing up tissue, the rest being lost as effectively harmless heat (yes, heat can injure, but a bullet isn't going to carry enough energy in total to do anything much there). Since we can't really figure out how much energy will turn out to be useful short of shooting something and measuring the damage energy is a rather poor way to predict the wounding capacity of a round.
You're absolutely right, anon, thanks for adding clarification and context. People translating muzzle energy directly to terminal performance will always drive me nuts.
probably. the harder the material, the more likely it is to fragment though. as it stands right now, even hard cast lead and solid, monolithic copper bullets still deform upon bone contact. even if it is very little, it still deforms.
yeah, an arrow can have 60 ft lbs of kinetic energy and pass through an elk and drop it in 30 yards. velocity at impact is still really important though. expanding bullets are designed and tested to work at certain velocity windows if you greatly exceed or fall below that, your kinetic energy isn’t worth very much
Yes, though this depends entirely on how the bullet is constructed. A soft lead bullet or a hollow point will easily deform, a thick FMJ or a solid type hunting bullet will not deform. Various other bullet types lie somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.
>copper-clad steel jack bonded lead core
wild. I think some of those African game bullets are brass alloys as well. would’ve expected slight deformation
Yeah, many are 100% brass or bronze. A few years ago Speer made a series that had tungsten cores.
Yeah, most of the really super thick-skinned dangerous game (elephants definitely, hippos/rhinos as well and sometimes cape buffalo, though premium bonded expanding bullets like a TSX or Trophy Bonded Beat Claw are often preferred for buff) are hunted with monolithic solids made of brass. Solids out of a .375, .416, .458, .500+ can have many feet of straight line penetration though feet of flesh and bone with the bullet maintaining almost all of its mass and not deforming. Pretty remarkable.
1/2 Shit I can do that WITHOUT a gun haha. By that I mean my penis. Yep. My 7 foot 2 inch penis. It’s 2 inches when flaccid and when i get erect it grows 82 inches in seconds. I get light headed and have passed out many time both from the rush of blood from my head and the extreme pain of the werewolf like transformation of my member. I cannot pleasure a woman with my manhood as it would surely break in half or impale the poor woman. One time I made a 7 foot long block of ballistics gel and made a facsimile of a 7 foot vagina. The only problem I had was that ballistics gel is much stiffer than I had anticipated and I could not slide in as I had expected. Well my bloodless brain came up with a terrific idea. After thoroughly lubing up I would run at the false vaginal canal at full speed and ram myself into it. The sensation would surely be so euphoric that I would come to competition immediately, I thought.
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I backed up about 50 feet and took off into a full sprint. Doubts about the validity of my plan quickly vanished from my mind as images of knights carrying lances on horseback flashed into head. Today I would honor my ancestors of old and knock the enemy from her high horse (picnic table). What I did not account for was the amount of bounce and trying to aim the tip of your dick at a 3 inch hole is damn near impossible at full sprint when you’re 6 inches let alone 7 foot. Well about 10 feet away I got so focused on trying to steady my flesh my spear that I slipped in a puddle of lube and face planted dick tip first into the ground. For a brief moment i felt the rush of a pole vaulter as I began to pivot into the sky but when I reached the apex of my ascent the mind shattering sensation of snapping a dick overwhelmed me and I screamed in a register that I was unaware I could hit. I tumbled through the air and landed on my back on top of the ballistics gel vag tunnel and my broken johnson flopped over like a fishing pole that had been slammed in truck door and slapped me in the face as a final act of defiance against my horny ambitions. Like broken flag pole on the fort of my sexual desires my penis began shrinking and the rush of blood to my head reawakened my full sense of pain. I laid on the table screaming for a full hour until a neighbor finally called and an ambulance. Tomorrow I am donating my
dick to multiple trans men in hopes of finding normality in my love life.
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2/2
I backed up about 50 feet and took off into a full sprint. Doubts about the validity of my plan quickly vanished from my mind as images of knights carrying lances on horseback flashed into head. Today I would honor my ancestors of old and knock the enemy from her high horse (picnic table). What I did not account for was the amount of bounce and trying to aim the tip of your dick at a 3 inch hole is damn near impossible at full sprint when you’re 6 inches let alone 7 foot. Well about 10 feet away I got so focused on trying to steady my flesh my spear that I slipped in a puddle of lube and face planted dick tip first into the ground. For a brief moment i felt the rush of a pole vaulter as I began to pivot into the sky but when I reached the apex of my ascent the mind shattering sensation of snapping a dick overwhelmed me and I screamed in a register that I was unaware I could hit. I tumbled through the air and landed on my back on top of the ballistics gel vag tunnel and my broken johnson flopped over like a fishing pole that had been slammed in truck door and slapped me in the face as a final act of defiance against my horny ambitions. Like broken flag pole on the fort of my sexual desires my penis began shrinking and the rush of blood to my head reawakened my full sense of pain. I laid on the table screaming for a full hour until a neighbor finally called and an ambulance. Tomorrow I am donating my
dick to multiple trans men in hopes of finding normality in my love life.
That Warren Commission “Magic Bullet” is NOT deformed.
To support their idiocy, they only ever show you exhibit 399 from one side, but if you see the bullet from the rear, you see that it isn’t pristine at all.
The JFK fatal headshot was fired in error from an M16 wielded by a rookie agent in the chase car.
The entry wound in the back of JFK’s head is about .24 caliber, smaller than the 399 6.5 mm Carcano bullet, but just over the 5.56 mm of an M16 round.
Oswald zapped both JFK and Connally with 399.
Once you understand that the Feds panicked and had to cover up their rookie ZOGbot’s mega fuck up, a whole lot of their ridiculous, (and frankly illegal…removing JFK’s corpse from Dallas),bullshit focuses nicely.
>war time production Carcano 6.5 >not slightly out of spec like post war ammo >used significantly more rigid alloys which in combination with the long form factor = yawing
Overpenetration through the lower neck at that range and subsequent tumbling through Conallay isn't out of the realm of possibility at all. JFK fucked off a Soviet converged CIA, Blueish Chicago mob that helped rig Chicago for him against Nixon, and critically Castro who was intimately apprised of assassination attempts with JFK/RFK's blessing. Oswald was a moonbat, but a moonbat fluent in both German & Russian -- he didn't call the Mexican embassy asking for the head of a known dedicated wetworks unit of the USSR for nothing.
Yeah
Most won't, but there's nothing stopping someone from making or selling one that theoretically could more often than not, as long as there's a soft jacket if it uses hard, dense materials so as to not fuck up the bore.
Typically, you want deformation, but in a consistent and reliable fashion. The more energy converted into wounding, the better, at least if the intended target is human. I could see hunters preferring penetration sans wild and unpredictable yawing or deformation that can cause wild trajectory changes, but that also seems like it would be dependent on the cartridge, loading, and target.
>The more energy converted into wounding, the better, at least if the intended target is human.
Two things with that. First is that not all tissue is equally important. The important stuff is usually pretty deep within the body, while the superficial bits are things you can survive without. This means that even against humans, ensuring sufficient penetration is the first priority.
Second by phrasing it in energy terms like that some people start thinking they only need to worry about how much energy the bullet lost passing through the target. However, only a small and variable part of the energy the bullet looses actually goes into tearing up tissue, the rest being lost as effectively harmless heat (yes, heat can injure, but a bullet isn't going to carry enough energy in total to do anything much there). Since we can't really figure out how much energy will turn out to be useful short of shooting something and measuring the damage energy is a rather poor way to predict the wounding capacity of a round.
You're absolutely right, anon, thanks for adding clarification and context. People translating muzzle energy directly to terminal performance will always drive me nuts.
probably. the harder the material, the more likely it is to fragment though. as it stands right now, even hard cast lead and solid, monolithic copper bullets still deform upon bone contact. even if it is very little, it still deforms.
yeah, an arrow can have 60 ft lbs of kinetic energy and pass through an elk and drop it in 30 yards. velocity at impact is still really important though. expanding bullets are designed and tested to work at certain velocity windows if you greatly exceed or fall below that, your kinetic energy isn’t worth very much
You are an idiot.
No. Humans are 70%water right, what happens to bullets when you shoot them into a bucket of water?
I'm sure you think that you're very clever with your thought experiment, but you're on the wrong side of the DK graph.
Yes, though this depends entirely on how the bullet is constructed. A soft lead bullet or a hollow point will easily deform, a thick FMJ or a solid type hunting bullet will not deform. Various other bullet types lie somewhere in the middle of the spectrum.
>copper-clad steel jack bonded lead core
wild. I think some of those African game bullets are brass alloys as well. would’ve expected slight deformation
Yeah, many are 100% brass or bronze. A few years ago Speer made a series that had tungsten cores.
For then the water buffalo are wearing Level IV plates
Yeah, most of the really super thick-skinned dangerous game (elephants definitely, hippos/rhinos as well and sometimes cape buffalo, though premium bonded expanding bullets like a TSX or Trophy Bonded Beat Claw are often preferred for buff) are hunted with monolithic solids made of brass. Solids out of a .375, .416, .458, .500+ can have many feet of straight line penetration though feet of flesh and bone with the bullet maintaining almost all of its mass and not deforming. Pretty remarkable.
*Bear Claw
>texas heart shot on an elephant
bold
>7ft of penetration through elephant ass and pelvis
>the real BBC (Big Brass Cock)
>84 inches of elephant rear-end penetration
1/2 Shit I can do that WITHOUT a gun haha. By that I mean my penis. Yep. My 7 foot 2 inch penis. It’s 2 inches when flaccid and when i get erect it grows 82 inches in seconds. I get light headed and have passed out many time both from the rush of blood from my head and the extreme pain of the werewolf like transformation of my member. I cannot pleasure a woman with my manhood as it would surely break in half or impale the poor woman. One time I made a 7 foot long block of ballistics gel and made a facsimile of a 7 foot vagina. The only problem I had was that ballistics gel is much stiffer than I had anticipated and I could not slide in as I had expected. Well my bloodless brain came up with a terrific idea. After thoroughly lubing up I would run at the false vaginal canal at full speed and ram myself into it. The sensation would surely be so euphoric that I would come to competition immediately, I thought.
2/2
I backed up about 50 feet and took off into a full sprint. Doubts about the validity of my plan quickly vanished from my mind as images of knights carrying lances on horseback flashed into head. Today I would honor my ancestors of old and knock the enemy from her high horse (picnic table). What I did not account for was the amount of bounce and trying to aim the tip of your dick at a 3 inch hole is damn near impossible at full sprint when you’re 6 inches let alone 7 foot. Well about 10 feet away I got so focused on trying to steady my flesh my spear that I slipped in a puddle of lube and face planted dick tip first into the ground. For a brief moment i felt the rush of a pole vaulter as I began to pivot into the sky but when I reached the apex of my ascent the mind shattering sensation of snapping a dick overwhelmed me and I screamed in a register that I was unaware I could hit. I tumbled through the air and landed on my back on top of the ballistics gel vag tunnel and my broken johnson flopped over like a fishing pole that had been slammed in truck door and slapped me in the face as a final act of defiance against my horny ambitions. Like broken flag pole on the fort of my sexual desires my penis began shrinking and the rush of blood to my head reawakened my full sense of pain. I laid on the table screaming for a full hour until a neighbor finally called and an ambulance. Tomorrow I am donating my
dick to multiple trans men in hopes of finding normality in my love life.
That Warren Commission “Magic Bullet” is NOT deformed.
To support their idiocy, they only ever show you exhibit 399 from one side, but if you see the bullet from the rear, you see that it isn’t pristine at all.
The JFK fatal headshot was fired in error from an M16 wielded by a rookie agent in the chase car.
The entry wound in the back of JFK’s head is about .24 caliber, smaller than the 399 6.5 mm Carcano bullet, but just over the 5.56 mm of an M16 round.
Oswald zapped both JFK and Connally with 399.
Once you understand that the Feds panicked and had to cover up their rookie ZOGbot’s mega fuck up, a whole lot of their ridiculous, (and frankly illegal…removing JFK’s corpse from Dallas),bullshit focuses nicely.
You're schizo AND retarded.
>war time production Carcano 6.5
>not slightly out of spec like post war ammo
>used significantly more rigid alloys which in combination with the long form factor = yawing
Overpenetration through the lower neck at that range and subsequent tumbling through Conallay isn't out of the realm of possibility at all. JFK fucked off a Soviet converged CIA, Blueish Chicago mob that helped rig Chicago for him against Nixon, and critically Castro who was intimately apprised of assassination attempts with JFK/RFK's blessing. Oswald was a moonbat, but a moonbat fluent in both German & Russian -- he didn't call the Mexican embassy asking for the head of a known dedicated wetworks unit of the USSR for nothing.
>kennedy assassination 1963
>m16 adopted 1964
okay buddy retard
My personal most unbelievable schizo theory is that Oswald acted alone.
Yeah. I've seen solid brass shotgun slugs that are fuck hard.