CAMM bros wtf happened? I thought we were superior?

>In joint procurement for medium range air defence, Estonia and Latvia will start negotiations with the German weapons manufacturer Diehl Defence for acquiring the Iris-T SLM air defence system, announced defence ministers Hanno Pevkur and Ināra Mūrniece on Sunday in Riga.
>“I am very happy that together with Latvia we have reached the next milestone in our joint procurement for medium range air defence. This has been a joint project of historical proportions for our defence cooperation, the largest one to date,” said Estonian Minister of Defence Hanno Pevkur.

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    CAMM ON INGERLAND SCORE SOME FRICKING CONTRACTS

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It seems customers prefer IRIS-T over EMADS
    Probably a price/availability thing more than it is pure performance.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are they so moronet? Why would anyone choose ISHI-T over CAMM?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      See

      It seems customers prefer IRIS-T over EMADS
      Probably a price/availability thing more than it is pure performance.

      If CAMM was going to take 3-5 years for delivery and cost $50m+ more for similar capability, and IRIS-T only had 12-24 month lead time, youd have to have a VERY good reason to go with CAMM.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Cheaper
      >Faster availability
      >Politically beneficial as it stays in the EU
      CAMM is expensive, but offers little improvement over IRIS-T at shooting down Russian Black person jets.

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting they didn’t chose the NASAM honestly. CAMM is not a surprise since it isn’t proven and not that effective vs the initial testing.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the future it will be quite hard to argue against revisionists that say NATO started the Ukraine war given the number of NATO strategic aims met.

    >Revivification of NATO
    >Accession of Sweden and Finland
    >Rearmament of members across Europe
    >Growth of NATO MIC
    >Russia now permanently surrounded and sanctioned while facing a new arms race in conventional weapons it can't afford anymore than it could afford the nuclear arms race

    You are a historian in 2063, are you going to look at that list and really believe the Russians "did it for free"?

    And the joke is the outcome of the Ukraine war doesn't matter to any of the above. Putin must be banging on the table demanding to know why they put the settings on Ironman mode without telling him.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >in the future historians will have a hard time debating homosexuals who say the USA caused WW2 to have an excuse to become a nuclear superpower

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mother fricker people already claim that now.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          and everyone sees them for the morons they are
          moot point

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >first delivery in 2024
    Wow, the production of Iris-T SLM is ramping up like crazy if that's the case.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The balts want delivery yesterday instead of in 3-4 years. CAMM never had a chance.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love seeing poles seethe over IRIS-T SLM. They chose CAMM and now have buyers remorse

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is CAMM?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      SCAMM*

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine is working well to advertise weapons.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick are the nazis allowed to win? Why do nice guys always lose

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, I would have preferred SAMP/T for some anti-ballistic capability, but it's better than nothing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't they partnering with Germany for that German-Israeli multinational ballistic shield?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        A ballistic missile shield covering to whole of Europe is a nice dream, but I doubt it will ever happen.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    When did we start using Baltic states military procurement as a benchmark for what's good and not what's cheap?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >G36
      >Boxer
      >CV90
      >JLTV
      >Patria 6x6
      >Blackhawk
      Most Baltic military procurements have been modern equipment, save for the CVRT purchase

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Was this meant to be an impressive list? Lmao literally bog standard, entry level military equipment.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You implied Baltic procurement is cheap equipment.
          For the most part, it isn't not.
          Now you moved the goalpost to F35s and 140mm MBTs by the tone of your post

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lithuania is really the only one of the three that can afford expensive stuff like Boxer and JLTV.
        Estonia and Latvia buy cheap stuff or second-hand for the most part. As an example Estonia is buying cheap Turkish 4x4s instead of the JLTV.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Estonia is buying K9s and LMT AR-15s as main service rifles, that shit aint cheap

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            K9s we have are old A1s that have been refurbished. Same with the CV90, bought from the Netherlands.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'M GONNA CAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    CAMM is not included in the IAMD approved defence system which is lobbied by Germany in the North East Europe.
    It only comprises German operated systems, like the Iris-T, the Patriot 3 and the Israeli Arrow-3.
    Other system, mainly the competitor CAMM, and SAMP-T were purposedly excluded, which keeps the operator outside of the IAMD

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