Calling it now, the POWs probably died long ago in captivity, and the russians are staging this so that they have plausible deniability.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >POW's
    I don't believe any POW's were involved. The flight was Northbound. Stop shoveling their shit into your mouth.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Russia probably mistakenly confirmed that certain persons were reported as captured that they had tortured to death. They needed a plausible way to destroy the evidence. Burned to death in a plane crash is good enough excuse for them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So they agreed to exchange 63 people they knew were dead, instead of people they could have exchanged, and then relied on a Ukr air defense to shoot down the specific plane at the specific time needed for the frame up? I don't think POWs were in the plane either but that's a very convoluted and implausible theory

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i think he meant they used the downing of a plane to cover up the prisoners that died

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Russia won't destroy a plane and kill the pilots just to cover up dead POW's

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Russia won't destroy a plane and kill the pilots just to cover up dead POW's
          >Russia won't set off bombs in Moscow apartment blocks repeatedly until an FSB team is caught in the act by Moscow police in order to provide cause to expand operations in Chechnya
          >Russia won't kill an overwhelming majority of hostages in a Moscow theatre in order to kill a team of terrorists

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Russia won't set off bombs in Moscow apartment blocks repeatedly until an FSB team is caught in the act by Moscow police in order to provide cause to expand operations in Chechnya
            That wasn't Moscow.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              My apologies, you're quite right, it was Ryazan. There was an apartment building that exploded in Moscow and I got my wires crossed. Too many years of Russian c**tardry.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Nearly all of them were in moscow/moscow region.
              Ryazan sugar is literally on moscow region border too.
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Moscow bombings were the FSB escalating their man into power in the turmoil of the Soviet Union collapse. The gain for them was huge.
            The theatre gassing was them being morons.
            Covering up the deaths of some POW's doesn't matter to them, they have been caught killing and torturing them already.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Covering up the deaths of some POW's doesn't matter to them

              They already did that with "himarst strike" in prison in Elenovka.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They didn't "cover up deaths in Olenivka", they straight up executed them there, even dug up graves few days prior, they also wouldn't kill crew of Il-76 with plane just for that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They didn't plan for the plane to be shot down. They would have used the same list of tortured/dead prisoners in any big strike to launder their disappearance and to dissuade Ukraine from similar attacks. E.g. if Ukraine blew up some big military installation Russia would saw it was full of POWs just the same.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/RSjE4Wc.png

        Calling it now, the POWs probably died long ago in captivity, and the russians are staging this so that they have plausible deniability.

        Leave the schizoposting to the ziggers, this is literally MH17 tier batshit theories.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They needed a plausible way to destroy the evidence.
        its called unmarked holes/cubes/pigfood moron. Ziggers have plenty of experience disposing corpses they dont want going back centuries. Nobody is going to waste expensive machinery on getting rid of some bodies. The plane was carrying someone important/something expensive, that is why they are shitting their pants over it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I find it interesting that some people are pushing the idea that since an IL76 can land on dirt, it was in fact about to land on some field somewhere, north east of Belgorod 🙂

      Cause that is just how one rolls apparently. Lands giant planes on snowy fields when there is a perfectly suitable 8200ft cement runway nearby

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        morons, a dirt runway is very different than some field chosen at random.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They couldn't have accounted for Ukraine downing the transport plane, and those and the crew are too precious to destroy for show.

    My personal theory is that they had planned for the exchange, then threw a fit when the plane was shot down, so they decided to cancel it. Ukraine is being extra cautious because they know that they shot it down, but won't confirm anything until they know for sure.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >My personal theory is that they had planned for the exchange, then threw a fit when the plane was shot down, so they decided to cancel it. Ukraine is being extra cautious because they know that they shot it down, but won't confirm anything until they know for sure.
      This, basically. Probably also means Ukraine might be a little more cautious about lobbing PAC2s at another transport for at least a few days.

      The real worry is that the Russians decide they need 63 POW bodies in the meantime.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Probably also means Ukraine might be a little more cautious about lobbing PAC2s at another transport for at least a few days
        wrong

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >wrong
          Based.

          >The real worry is that the Russians decide they need 63 POW bodies in the meantime.
          They would probably do it as retaliation anyway, and this can be the start of unannounced blackmail. Simply claim that any downed plane had POWs and execute your hostages accordingly.

          You may well be right.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The real worry is that the Russians decide they need 63 POW bodies in the meantime.
        They would probably do it as retaliation anyway, and this can be the start of unannounced blackmail. Simply claim that any downed plane had POWs and execute your hostages accordingly.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >can be the start of unannounced blackmail
          Won't save single Russian plane, btw

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >execute pow's
          >provide horseshit justification that every country with drinkable tap water sees right through
          >???
          >profit

          Behold, the turd world mindset in action

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The real worry is that the Russians decide they need 63 POW bodies in the meantime.
        It's russia, they always have few fresh bodies of tortured to death lying around. Problem is that they named specific numbers and names, which still might be alive.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Problem is that they named specific numbers and names, which still might be alive.
          About one-third of those names have previously been released, kek

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't matter either way, they have to shoot shit down regardless to demonstrate Moscow's moronation on top of perfidy for it to actually modify their behavior. The Russians aren't getting experienced or motivated Wagnerites in return typically, unlike the poorly treated to outright tortured POWs with more motivation than ever. May as well not be doing exchanges at all from Russia's endless zerg hordes perspective.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why On earth would they be more careful?
        You think a submariner would think twice about sinking a troop transport ship if one crossed their path?
        Even if there's a 5% chance it's a hellship moving your POWs around, sink it anyway.
        It's a war

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You think a submariner would think twice about sinking a troop transport ship if one crossed their path?
          Nope.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Of course it is bullshit. There would be non stop spam of the bodies if they existed, and russians blaming the west for escalating.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >There would be non stop spam of the bodies if they existed
      this, literally this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I actually forgot that point lmao, some boards would've been spammed to hell if it did happen.
      But now I'm very curious about what was inside that plane.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If Russia tells 10 lies in one story, and you then believe and disseminate 1 of those 10 while talking about how the other 9 were bullshit, you're doing exactly what they're expecting and hoping you'll do.

    So, since no one here believes - nor has been provided any reason to believe - any part of the Russian version of how they lost a valuable air asset and would desperately like that this never happened again, I can only assume you're either very young, very dumb, or literally a Russian shill.

    They way to handle Russian hybrid war disinfo bullshit is to demonstrate that it's incorrect, identify their motives for spreading the particular bullshit while laughing at their real world incompetence, and then move on. It's like dealing with a stupid child:

    "The cat told me that you should give me candy."

    -"Cats don't speak, you're lying, and the reason you're lying is because you know that you're not big enough to reach the candy."

    *walk away*

    "Nuh-uh, the cat really sai-"

    *keep walking*

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The russian monkeh cultist fears the stern father.

      So many western vatnik believers are just different versions of "Frick you dad, you can't point out my flaws"?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >"Frick you dad, you can't point out my flaws"
        That's just all villain figures in general since Satan himself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Should be fricking sticked, honestly

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is post of the month honestly.
      Everyone saying shit like "both sides are lying" is an useful idiot, pol vatnik troon lover mudslime or a vatnik

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The cat says it’s trad and white to give me candy. What are you, a troony?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I laffed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But there was NO CANDY, you played yourself.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's been like what, 2 years? it's the usual russian tactic, flood info space with some bullshit and morons like you OP are discussing the bullshit instead of, you know, russia losing a fricking transport plane deep inside russia

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's been 20 years- since Kursk and the "MUH COLLISION," "MUH HATO SUB TORPEDO," "MUH WE TOTALLY DIDN'T LET THEM DIE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT BRITOID AND NORWAY RESCUE DIVERS ON BOARD OUR SUB," "MUH WE TOTALLY DIDN'T SEDATE BY NEEDLE A GRIEVING MOM"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well i'm assuming guys like OP had a pretty vague idea of what russia is before 2022 and probably don't even know about Kursk

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Fair call.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        20 years? They did the same with Chernobyl, lmao. Even further away, they dod the same after Katyn. Idk, I've seen so many ancient russian lies, it's hard to decide which was first.
        >we wuz byzantium blyat

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >20 years? They did the same with Chernobyl, lmao. Even further away, they dod the same after Katyn. Idk, I've seen so many ancient russian lies, it's hard to decide which was first.
          I was referring to Russia in their present incarnation, not the USSR hellstate, but you make an excellent point.
          >we wuz byzantium blyat
          lmao

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    /pol/Black folk made sure I knew about the no eyes pig like ukrainian, and somehow they're sparing me all the mmh roasted piggies jokes? Yeah right

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They would've shown corpses if there were POWs on the plane.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And they're also not inviting the UN and other third parties to the affair. I naively gave Russia the benefit of the doubt for like 2 hours, but nope, they're full of it as per usual.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    …Not sure if a .45 or 9mm dose will do. Take both for good measure.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >morons are this ass blasted by medical science

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >one corpse beside two pilots found
    >flying NE out of Belgorod instead of into Belgorod
    >provided fake list of names
    >said no UN involvement in investigation allowed
    Why should I trust Russoids

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In all instances, whatever variations you come up with, the end result will still be virtually the same:

    >Russia killed POWs and used a shootdown of their plane as an attempt at cover
    >There were living POWs on the plane and they died from Ukraine shooting down the plane because of Russia's stupidity
    >There were never POWs, Russia came up with a moronic false flag to deter Ukrainian air defense but was immediately caught

    In all instances, Russia is stupid, just in different ways. If they were dead beforehand, it hardly matters because Ukraine had no choice but to shoot down the plane regardless. If they're not dead, good, but it just makes Russia look dumber.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia was flying cargo plane from iran to belgorod and it got shot down. They are now seething about it to try and use losing extremely valuable plane and maybe even valuable cargo to turn this loss into victory.

      We saw the crash site.
      Russia hopes we didn't.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the idea is to make the Ukrainians have doubts about striking other large strategic planes inside Russia while in flight.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But they won't, Ukraine will know better than anyone if this was actually a POW carrying plane. If 3rd party intel is to be believed this plane was coming back into Russia, not leaving it. And Ukriane and other NATO assets will be able to confirm this 100%

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    /k/ appears to be one of the very few right-leaning spaces on the internet that isn't choking on russian disinfo dick 24/7, and it's a relief to see.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. Western countries have really dropped the ball on informational warfare for some reason, so vatBlack folk are everywhere.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What appalls me is that they have exploited and pandered to right wing culture war moronation so well that at this point, it almost seems irreversible.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can't win the information war with contrarians, if the MSM says it it's lies, if the government says it it's lies, if their favourite e-celeb of the week agrees with the MSM and government he's compromised.
        To win over the terminally contrarian you would need the MSM to be pushing a narrative counter to what you want people to believe and there are more people that trust the media than there are terminally contrarian.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a moderate liberal (as in Adam Smith, Enlightenment philosophy, realism, etc) and I am so sick of Russia I want them to be soundly defeated.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A good proportion of this board is just highly autistic. Politics don't factor into it, they just hate when people are wrong on the internet.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly this, at least to me. I'm speechless at how Russian can lie with such audacity, and how people can still believe their bullshit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For me personally, it's centrism.
      Everyone but me is moronic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The issue of Russia isn't an issue of politics, but arguably of morals. Note how the very worst of the Left and the Right have united over tacit (or even overt) support of Russia's invasion, because Putin's regime appeals to their basest desire to eliminate that hateful in their sight. No one can look at a state that sends starving, beaten and raped slaves en masse to destroy a country or die trying, and honestly believe it's for goodness' sake.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Note how the very worst of the Left and the Right have united over tacit (or even overt) support of Russia's invasion,
        And that's the litmus test, right fricking there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We're all moderates here.
      Muscovy Delenda Est.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >“This is all temporary. There will be the Soviet Union again, no one will go anywhere, and we will live in peace."_ —Shoigu, Tomb of the Unknown Soldier ceremony 22/6/22.

      The absolute litmus tests of the real right are materialism and communism. If you can't parse the litany of literally Red pronouncements - most recently Alaska being formally 'occupied' by the USA - in light of half a century of active measures and correct Soviet Defector literature prognostications, there's no helping you. Broken Clocks > geopolitical 'realists' like Mearshitter that can't even into elite theory or the Iron Law of Oligarchy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You need to understand that most of internet is Brown (unironically, no joke) and i am afraid most of PrepHole is brown.
      /k/ is very expensive hobby, so i guess we have less brownies compared to other boards (only PrepHole can compete, because getting fit requires too much work, and brownies dont like that)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >/k/ is very expensive hobby
        Or you are just not allowed to buy guns in your third world country.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        even if you don't own guns, you can still be into /k/ and actually learn as much as you can while selecting the more reliable and true information for yourself critically. The non-classified information are all publicly available on the internet, you just need at least good enough English reading comprehension. Even the classified information can still be assessed by reading into operational history or something.

        /k/ is more like a very autistic hobby, rather than expensive hobby. That's why claims like "Russian guns are inaccurate on purpose to hit mobile target" won't work on anyone that actually reads and researches about the subject. It won't work on /k/, but it works wonder on places where people would rather be posting based Putin meme than actually learning about "esoteric" history like that time the israelites BTFO Soviet Air Force.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        even if you don't own guns, you can still be into /k/ and actually learn as much as you can while selecting the more reliable and true information for yourself critically. The non-classified information are all publicly available on the internet, you just need at least good enough English reading comprehension. Even the classified information can still be assessed by reading into operational history or something.

        /k/ is more like a very autistic hobby, rather than expensive hobby. That's why claims like "Russian guns are inaccurate on purpose to hit mobile target" won't work on anyone that actually reads and researches about the subject. It won't work on /k/, but it works wonder on places where people would rather be posting based Putin meme than actually learning about "esoteric" history like that time the israelites BTFO Soviet Air Force.

        /k/ is also most military related matters. Plenty of mercs/ex soldiers/active duty anons here. Turd world usually sees the military as either a power trip facade or a place of personal enrichement or something to avoid like the plague. None of those are in it for the war machines and associated culture/mentality

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I used to be way more right wing but it became untenable for me to support almost any position leaning there (EU) because the only people willing to push it are 5th columnists. We should jail every politician that even tries to run for office if they're discovered to dabble with Russia somewhere along the chain so we can purify the political scene.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    5 crew is perfectly reasonable for a cargo plane.
    >2 pilots
    >1 flight engineer
    >1 load master
    >1 assistant loader

    I see no reason to suspect there were any POWs involved at all.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Lenin
    Oh yeah, USSR is well known for its firearms culture!
    Oh wait

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What gun control did Lenin pass? Keep in mind he died in 1924.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Laws? Thats too unbased for mighty puccia. Lenin just ordered his zonder squads to forcefully take away weapons from civilians.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Lenin just ordered his zonder squads to forcefully take away weapons from civilians
          Source?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            http://museumreforms.ru/node/13766

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >http://museumreforms.ru/node/13766
              Thanks anon, I legitimately never read about that.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >ru
              O eщё oдин opyжeйный энтyзиacт в тpeдe.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gun culture is a uniquely American thing.

        I was laughing at morons who believe in slogans, this anon gets it

        https://i.imgur.com/kNh8AqW.jpg

        Laws? Thats too unbased for mighty puccia. Lenin just ordered his zonder squads to forcefully take away weapons from civilians.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It was possible to buy a lot of firearms in Russian Empire, but Red isis took that right away, deemed too dangerous for the regime.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gun culture is a uniquely American thing.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So ziggers premium copium now is that the crash supposedly burned away all the bodies till nothing is left. How possible is this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Da, is very possible comrade. Each POW was wearing a commemorative set of magnesium armor

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No, most parties for arming Ukraine in Europe are right leaning. And so should the fricking Americans but they're undergoing a schizophrenic tantrum. Frick the commies, frick the socialists, frick the socdems.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Frick communists with a rake.
    >not the handle end

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not a commie but I am a mile left of the overton window.
      >nationalize banking
      >nationalize utilities
      >nationalize arms production
      These make me a commie in the eyes of the average economic illiterate these days.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you are the anon to whom I am replying, you posted a picture praising Lenin, which is exactly who should be fricked with a rake head

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I am that anon, I'm closer to Lenin than Biden.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Grass or gravel rake then, feel free to choose. The helicopter ride is free though.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >tfw American and leftist but still autistically obsessed with guns

    Don't care much for gun worship and politics, I just really like guns themselves.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The Russians finance right wingers everywhere in Europe because they know right wingers frick shit up. moronblicans, Le Pen, UKIP, AfD, PiS, they're all paid by Putin because Putin knows a left wing Europe is a prosperous Europe and that's bad for Russia. Right wing morons will stick their fingers in the ear and go lalala but if they weren't such morons they knew it's true.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lol, most of the kompromat parties in Europe are either moderate left or extremist right. Does this tell you anything?

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You're a fricking moron though, the first three prime ministers to visit Kiev after the Russian invasion were the Czech, Polish and Slovenian PM's, all three were 'right wing' and at least two of them were called 'far right' in the past.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh stop it. Other than hardline tankie lefties (who are slavishly pro russian anyway), Russia really isn't targeting moderate and left politicians as hard as they've been appealing to reactionary and radical right wingers in all of Western Europe and North America for the past 10 years.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is that why our local leftist party wants us to leave NATO, demilitarize and open our borders? That was their 2022 party program.

        You're a fricking moron that sees what he wants to see.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What do you mean by "our"? What country do you live in?

          >You're a fricking moron that sees what he wants to see.
          Kek, the whole thread disagrees with you but I'm proud of your delusions anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's still right, most of the established right wing parties despise Russia (even if their members will still be buddies with oligarchs). It's all the new right wing parties that gained massive popularity after the shitshow that was 2015 that are in Russia's pocket, the ones that only seem to talk about the heckin' muslims and how we should be buddies with Russia. FdI is a good example of the former, AfD - of the latter.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And what did Meloni do for Russia? Typical scare mongering from the modern 'left'. If you don't vote for demographic replacement then you're a racist/xenophobe/russophile/whatever.

        What do you mean by "our"? What country do you live in?

        >You're a fricking moron that sees what he wants to see.
        Kek, the whole thread disagrees with you but I'm proud of your delusions anon.

        Why does it matter where I live you wienersucking homosexual? Former MP for the very same leftist party attended pro-russia 'gatherings' and sent 'working groups' to fricking Venezuela.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >What did Meloni do for Russia
          Authorize (secreted, because Italy is full of commies and peaceniks) countless materiel transfers to Ukraine. That moron doesn't know what he's talking about, since FdI is by no means a new party but rather an evolution of right wing youth brigades. It even has the flame as the logo.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            To add to this, she ran on a pro-ukraine, pro-nato platform, while the moderate left and opposition ran on appeasement and peace. In fact, the compromised right wingers were 1) an old head magnate with direct ties to Putin 2) a schizo with so little political capital he never even won an election by himself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            To add to this, she ran on a pro-ukraine, pro-nato platform, while the moderate left and opposition ran on appeasement and peace. In fact, the compromised right wingers were 1) an old head magnate with direct ties to Putin 2) a schizo with so little political capital he never even won an election by himself.

            I brought FdI up exactly as the example of an established right wing party, the utter ESLness of my post probably fricker over that perception

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm agreeing with you anon, I'm trying to explain to a layman what the whole deal is as to prevent further thread moronation and "muh right wing loves Russia!!!!" Posts.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Why does it matter where I live

          I mean, if all we're going to do is to make up imaginary parties and MPs without mentioning exactly who they are and what country it is, then I'm not sure why you expect anyone to take your drivel seriously.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >i-its all imaginary
            frick off moron.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              All you had to do was to name the country once instead of writing 1000 words of your furious and illiterate brown handed seething kek. Literally just name your country and all will be well.

              Wonder why you're terrified of doing so.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're not only an uneducated moron that demands spoonfeeding but also a delusional faoggot who thinks he's right. The fact you're trying to project your shitskiness on others speaks volumes too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, just name the country. Literally just name this mythical wonderland you live in. What third word shithole with no name is this that you live in?

                How is this such a great challenge for you? Downright mystifying.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If you had an IQ above 80 you could've figured it out by now, sadly that's not the case.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's Slovenia, moron. I figured it out by just looking it up. Do you really need to be spoonfed

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You're not only an uneducated moron that demands spoonfeeding but also a delusional faoggot who thinks he's right. The fact you're trying to project your shitskiness on others speaks volumes too.

              It's Slovenia, moron. I figured it out by just looking it up. Do you really need to be spoonfed

              you're beyond moronic, janša (a polar opposite to that b***h) is a putin wienersucker by proxy, sucking on orban's dick of all things
              t. slovenian

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Russians can't buy loyalty because frick Russia is so deeply ingrained in west eastern Europe. Literally half of them remember being under Russian occupation and now those white Black folk are at it again.

      You have to realize Russia isn't only financing groups that directly help them, they want to frick shit up. Right wingers shit into societies and a shat into society is a weaker target. If the west did cuck on Ukraine having PiS frick over every smart pole with Black person/American/Brownie tier societal policies and ruin the economy with graft and unsustainable military spending would be in Russia's interest, so they financed it.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If it was carrying POWs I guarantee they flew the plane so close to Ukrainian AD on purpose knowing full well it was likely to get shot down. Instant bad press for Ukraine they desperately hope will impact foreign aid and it gets rid of some POWs regardless of if they were still alive or not when put on the plane.

    Most likely it was actually the Russians just doing something moronic again flying supplies in an expensive aircraft too close to enemy AD and there were no POWs. If there were then as others have pointed out the board would be getting relentlessly spammed with photos of the mangled bodies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ziggers are still coping about that kek
      >uhhh, jet fuel burned everything down to nothing
      >the force from the missile and crash turned all the bodies to fine paste
      >even if there's bodies left, it's just tiny bits like fingernails, you won't be able to see it anyway

      I guess physics works differently in mother Russia

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So where are the bodies of these POWs?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Still on the way from Siberia. Railway logistics are a fricking mess right now and flying them to Belgorod is obviously no go. But when wectoids see those 527 skeletons, eyebrow will be in the ass and everyone will understand everything.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Bro. This place got fully taken over by leftists two years ago.
    What to know how I can tell you weren't here during Bush?

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >This contrarian moron furiously seething at everyone ITT for disagreeing with him

    lmao.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >literally two hands and few fingers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      two hands and few fingers
      Admittedly, that is about 60 mobiks worth of appendages two years into the war

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Was there even a plane crash where they can reach the crash site without finding any bodies, or just half of them? And yes, I've seen this cope too:

    >they only found half of MH17 bodies
    >that means for the Il-76, there should be about 5 left
    >everything fits perfect, the ass is in the ass

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They found most of the bodies from Prigozens plane and that was a tiny passenger jet.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Adding to that, the only people IRL who I see regurgitating vatnik talking points every single time almost always happen to be right wing conspiratards.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And also moderate left when it suits them.
      See: the peepee tapes.

      Which fricking baffles me. You see talking heads saying about how much Russia hates the West and is willing to do anything to frick with them. An$ then they believe Putin or his cronies word for word when he says something they agree with.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Russia plays both sides, they don't care about ideology just whoever will cause problems for their rivals

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Adding to that, the only people IRL who I see regurgitating vatnik talking points every single time almost always happen to be right wing conspiratards.
      Then you don't understand that Russia operates on the extremes and that commies have always been their quislings on the other end of the spectrum. It finds something that causes division, abortion, 2a, race, religion whatever, latches onto an incident uses it to divide, polarise, radicalise and escalate/accelerate. Does Russia care about Abortion in the USA or Poland. No of course not. But it does care about hijacking the extremes on either end of the spectrum. Both leftpol and pol are vatBlack person bullshit. The ultra left anti globalisation 'movement' and conferences organised in Moscow had hardcore marxist terror groups attending. Then there is a European Conservatives conference in St. Petersburg with a bunch of prancing poltards. What both conferences agree though is that Russia and its policies are right and good and they should return to their nations and sow as much discord and chaos as possible. The big one is Russia involvement in mass immigration caravans across Libya from areas controlled by wager as called out by the Italian minister of defence, their via free flights to Russia on condition of onward transit to the EU over the polish and Finish borders, Assads issuing of documents to opponents and Russian movement of them to Europe, the activity of hard left Russian run open borders groups AND 'right' populist anti immigration parties funded by Moscow like AFD and Le Penn.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how is it that this one particular moron keeps deleting all his posts?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      he is oppressed.

      by himself

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Every time he gets challenged, his posts quickly disappear, and not just in this thread kek.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          PrepHole self-deletion is the final form of sissyhypnocuckporn

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      jannies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably trying to generate screencaps to post over on /misc/ claiming the jannies on /k/ are oppressing him and his not pro-Ukraine posts. Also probably thinks it makes it so the mods can't ban him because the posts are gone too quickly or something.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have the Russians claimed what missile the Ukrainians are supposed to have used? What is its’ range? Was it hit over Ukraine or Belgograd?

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason why he's this terrified of revealing where he lives is because it's probably some radioactive post-soviet shithole where prostitution and organised crime makes up 70% of the GDP.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    that doesn't look like at least 70 people

    >Ukrainian tattoos
    would you show me?

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    may i see the tattoos?

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Can you make a screenshots with the "ukrainian tatoos" i only found a tatto on the pal and there is nothing ukrainian about it, or missed something?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe it ‘Ukrainian’ in Cyrillic. Or Sanskrit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nah there only some black mish mash on the balm that looks like tatoo, but you cant identify what the frick it actually is, it not looks like either cyrillic symbols or any symbols at all, just some abstact pattern, that why i was asking.

        t.ukrainian

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They zoomed in on it for a reason you know.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Please. Enlighten us about these "tattoos".
    You're just making shit up

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >man caught lying thousands of times upset that nobody believes anything he says anymore

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I don't see any tattoos there buddy. Better show some proof.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Does this look like 60+ people? Also, what are the Ukrainian tattoos?

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Please provide us proof for these "Ukrainian" tattoos.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >have "right"-wing "friends"
    >they started slurping Russian kool-aid since 2014
    >now they are telling me I should experience plane crash to see if my body will remain after or turn to nothing like the POWs that's supposedly on the plane

    I hate Russian brainrot so frick much

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I hate Russian brainrot so frick much
      Fricking moron c**ts. Show them some imagery of the MH17 crash site

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        and they said they didn't find all the body in pristine condition so it should absolutely be expected for the Il-76 to have only like a finger or two left. Needless to say, I'm flabbergasted. To top it off they asked me if I know how hot jet fuel burns and how powerful the kinetic energy of the missile strike is, apparently it's as powerful as industrial hydraulic press plus blender.

        I half want to stop talking about it with them already since it's clear that they won't listen, and they have been throwing all sort of insults while I didn't call them names or anything, maybe making some sarcastic remarks at most. Half of me still want to see if I can knock some senses into them, since it wasn't even this bad before 2022.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >and they said they didn't find all the body in pristine condition so it should absolutely be expected for the Il-76 to have only like a finger or two left. Needless to say, I'm flabbergasted. To top it off they asked me if I know how hot jet fuel burns and how powerful the kinetic energy of the missile strike is, apparently it's as powerful as industrial hydraulic press plus blender.
          >I half want to stop talking about it with them already since it's clear that they won't listen, and they have been throwing all sort of insults while I didn't call them names or anything, maybe making some sarcastic remarks at most. Half of me still want to see if I can knock some senses into them, since it wasn't even this bad before 2022.
          I hope so, anon, people are fricking broken in the last five years or so, I hope there's a bottom we reach and things start improving

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I used to think Russia is a barbaric shithole that I don't want to have anything to do with but now I actively want it to implode, be balkanized, demilitarized, annexed by Japan or anything. I don't think some people will wake up otherwise.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I used to think Russia is a barbaric shithole that I don't want to have anything to do with but now I actively want it to implode, be balkanized, demilitarized, annexed by Japan or anything. I don't think some people will wake up otherwise.
              I used to - graduated high school in 2000 so I'm an old fart - genuinely think for a number of years in the 2000s that we owed the Russian people some help in finding their way to democracy, that because we knew how to tread the path we had a moral obligation to help them deal with Putin and Medvedev and find a way to self-determination. I was very fricking wrong. Now I want it to collapse and Balkanize and cease to be the utter c**t it is.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >we owed the Russian people some help
                USians never learn. 10 years from russia collapse you will be sending them food as always and then building their industry from scratch as it happens every 30 years.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                heh it only happened 3 times
                surely we wont send them food and/or financial aid a 4th time

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I was categorically, unequivocally, without exception, wrong, anon. I was also in my early 20s and thought free market capitalism and western style democracy could even fix Russia. Now I believe in TZD, and have done for years before the "Z" came along.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Eternal reminder that trade doesn't build good relationships. You trade with allies, but don't ally via trade.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You trade with allies, but don't ally via trade.
                Very wise words anon. I do not defend my previously held opinions in the slightest. I came to realize a decade or so ago that we took Germany and completely, utterly broke down their national character, and built it back up in a G-rated caricature of itself like an airline-edit of a movie, because the damage that the Nazi party did to the world was so catastrophic. We completely altered their belief system to prevent it from occurring again.

                And yet. Nazism was confined to the Germans, mostly. Communism was birthed by the Russians, and exported to dozens of countries across the world and killed far more than the Nazis did, and left the rest in poverty and squalor, and its DNA echoes today through the power-morons on the left. But Russia has never, ever, ever been called to account for that. We need to break them down to fricking soil level and carefully oversee what grows again to make sure their fricking cancer is as dead as we can possibly make it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                tbf if the Reich survived the war and took the place of the vatnik union in the new cold war, then fascism and national socialism would definitely had appeal abroad. Specially in the colonials and third world. Nationalist China for example snook up to the germans pre WW2 heavily and nipps, despite the distance, still sought out contact with the germans even when isolated in war conditions like technology exchanges

                As it stands out of the three brothers two were killed in the war and completely discredited with the third one coming out as a "victor" thus maintaining its illusion as a alternative to the west

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I blame americans (bushes) and european useful morons equally.
                Rushits had to be threated like african warlords that need colonial overlords, not sponsoring their OBVIOUS mafia. They never even tried to hide it, half of putin cronies are mafia mob bosses from 90s, some even serial killers like Tsapki.

                heh it only happened 3 times
                surely we wont send them food and/or financial aid a 4th time

                Only 3 times in 100 years.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Contrarianism is a hell of a drug. The older I get the more I realize the people who fully buy into a single political ideology are just moronic and looking for an alternative to something like religion.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's sad that they are basically telling me to kms, just in a roundabout way, while calling me moron for not believing Russian claims. To think we were friends... I can say Russian propaganda is very destructive, doesn't matter if you personally don't buy it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have similar issue with my 60 year old dad huffing RT. Either they care enough about you to listen to you (my dad does) or they are not worth keeping as friends anon.
      I consistently point out contradictions between my dads (Meaning RT's) positions on things like immigration, nazis, the invasion, dugin, separatists etc and it wears him down eventually but it's required consistent education on things like geopolitics and framing to get to the point where I can at least talk to him about it to a level where he seems to be coming around. I don't even care if he hates immigrants or likes them (he and RT flip flops), or even if he hates or likes nazis but I'd like him to be consistent so there's no weasling out of corners Russia puts itself into. He's a capitalist one day and a commie the next it's infuriating and the only consistency is his love for Russia for some reason, at least till I started showing him the degeneracy and child prostitution, that turned him right off.

      My dad IS a complete muppet though, he's a smart guy, just dumb politically.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the only consistency is his love for Russia for some reason
        This is the most inexplicable thing about Russian (and China) propaganda. It seems they really succeed in targeting people emotions, then manage to frick people ability to think critically.

        About my friends (or "friends", I still don't know who to think about this yet), they do have interest in /k/ stuff but I wouldn't say they are /k/, at most, they are fudd level, like they can tell it's a Leopard 2 but can't tell which version it is, the only guns they can recognize are AR-15 and AK-47. But after 2022, suddenly they like to talk about how genius Russian combat tactic and how much of a killing machine the BMPT is.

        I guess Russia is really good at impressing people on the surface level.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I still don't know who to think about this yet
          *how to think

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I guess Russia is really good at impressing people on the surface level.
          Russia is the best at manipulating dumb people (russians), turned out that tactic works for the rest of the world as well.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Turns out the world is filled with people that would rather "own" other people to feel smug about it than actually learning the truth. I guess Russia knows their target audience.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The issue of Russia isn't an issue of politics, but arguably of morals. Note how the very worst of the Left and the Right have united over tacit (or even overt) support of Russia's invasion, because Putin's regime appeals to their basest desire to eliminate that hateful in their sight. No one can look at a state that sends starving, beaten and raped slaves en masse to destroy a country or die trying, and honestly believe it's for goodness' sake.

        >the only consistency is his love for Russia for some reason
        This is the most inexplicable thing about Russian (and China) propaganda. It seems they really succeed in targeting people emotions, then manage to frick people ability to think critically.

        About my friends (or "friends", I still don't know who to think about this yet), they do have interest in /k/ stuff but I wouldn't say they are /k/, at most, they are fudd level, like they can tell it's a Leopard 2 but can't tell which version it is, the only guns they can recognize are AR-15 and AK-47. But after 2022, suddenly they like to talk about how genius Russian combat tactic and how much of a killing machine the BMPT is.

        I guess Russia is really good at impressing people on the surface level.

        if you deploy the firehose of falsehoods and just spray every type of shit at once with the only common attribute being its anti-current-thing, then you are bound to net in all the opposition minded. From home grown extremists morons like /misc/ and lefty/misc/ to otherwise moderate but superficial minds that are tired of the current special brand of mainstream moronation. From wokeism to outright mass hysteria like coronaism.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Friend has been adament for years that mh17 could not have been shot by Russia, because Russia stronk, they have the best intelligence and are too precise to accidentally shoot down a civilian airliner
      > Sputnik/RT enthousiast
      > Invasion happens, and ensuing video evidence of Russian brutality and incompetence makes him recant his earlier standpoints completely
      He was the last person I ever expected to do such a 180, there is hope I guess.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      At least your friend didn't go from a nice boy to a full Nazi that says that you're "one of the good ones." I just don't want my bro ending up in prison or worse.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >intentionally downing a whole cargo plane just to avoid admitting you killed some POWs
    It's Russia, but come on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >intentionally downing a whole cargo plane just to avoid admitting you killed some POWs
      Anon you're working the problem backwards. They won't crash a plane to hide 60 POW deaths, they absolutely will kill 60 POWs to make it undesirable to have shot down the plane

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's not the theory. The theory is the chekists look for opportunity to paint their victims as another's victims and this incident provided one such escape. Many such cases throughout their 106 years.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Katyn being the most famous attempt of the Chekists to blame others for their crime but no one fell for that.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >there are more replies asking for pictures of the tattoos than there are visible bodies in the wreckage videos

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Not seeing any tattoos there fren.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Proof?

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You got screenshots of these "tattoos"?

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Let me guess they're giant Bandara Swastika Tattoos right?

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It only took only 10 years, but even dailymail dont buy rushit shit anymore.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >now they have to involve the ICRC

    Lol no they're not letting anyone near the crash site.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's the best case scenario, otherwise they'd have to murder some prisoners to align with their story. But yeah I suspect they're trying to launder already murdered prisoners while making Ukraine reluctant to attack them for fear or hitting others (i.e. using POWs as human shields for their military forces)

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Having a cargo plane get shot down inside Russian borders is very embarrassing, so they have to put a spin on it.
    Why ICRC or UN would give a shit about a military transport being shot down in a war is beyond me

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I think they just confused downed plane with second pow plane at first but then it became too convenient to backpedal.
    If you read 2ch or other russian websites they are in euphoria that some hohols died even if it was their plate with trained crew on board

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The POWs story is bullshit, but why are we jumping to conclusion that it was a very valuable cargo? If it was ammunition, would't we have seen some cook-offs during the fall and evidence of it after crash? And as for personel, somehow I don't see anyone important flying on a cargo plane from Russia side. And if it was some IRGC shitter, Iran would have broken the story because muh martyr, no? Also is it confirmed that this is the plane that went from Iran?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but why are we jumping to conclusion that it was a very valuable cargo?
      Because for some reason people don't think Il-76 is valuable cargo by itself

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia would never use heavy lift aviation capabilities to simply transport POWs. It's more pidorashka lies.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    russhits don't lie to deceive you, they lie to insult you
    Don't be a cuck, there were never any POWs, TZD

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The blowjob scene makes it extra sophisticated.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    why is this always so shoddily documented?
    they can show the location, why not use a drone to show the whole scene instead of showing some shaky clips with background that could be anywhere

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Really gives you the big think doesn't it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think they knew that when the video evidence is seen all will be known and there will no longer be reason to think, because all is known.

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all the examples of plane crashed by missiles or not with most of the bodies found and identified
    >but common sense should tell you that missile + jet fuel + gravity = ashes scattered to the wind
    >also common sense should tell you that a superpower like Russia shouldn't have any problem dealing with Ukraine
    >so it is obviously Putin 5D chess

    Appealing to "common sense" seems to be another of their metodichka, if you can even call it that, since I'm pretty sure that many of those frickers actually believe this shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > common sense should tell you that missile + jet fuel + gravity = ashes scattered to the wind
      Jet fuel doesn’t burn hot enough to completely incinerate a body in the time frame of a plane crash. Besides that, there WERE bodies found. But most curiously, every single body was a Russian crew member

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's very telling that Russia just lost a plane worth at least $50M and all ziggers can say is coping about "muh POW" and "muh airborne crematorium"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Scott Kiddie-Fiddler Ritter

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            day 700+ of desert storm on steroids

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >day 700+ of parking lot breeze on estrogens

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            These kind of posts just baffle me. Like, we had video evidence of the crash site within an hour of it crashing and we saw bodies... of Russian crewmen. If there were 80+ bodies like they're claiming (65 POW, Guards, Crewmen) then they'd be littered all over the crash site. We would see them. We don't. So they're not there. No, the explosion did not atomise them, no the fire did not burn them all to ash. If they did, there would be nothing of anything. Are Russian aircrew made of adamantium? No? Then they weren't on the aircraft.

            As for 'NAFO coping' you mean questioning the narrative? I thought people like Ritter were all for questioning the narrative the MSM was stating, or is Russian MSM not to be questioned? Finally, if you think trading a $70m aircraft for 65 POWs is a good trade, you're so fricking moronic you need your head checked.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >you're so fricking moronic you need your head checked.
              He's a pedo and a Russia cuck... that bit is kind of implied.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am aware who Ritter is.

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    somewhere ive read that russian aa downed the plane due to it flying under radar
    how likely is that actually?

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Let's use Il-76 to transport POWs
    >When you can just use normal buses for this shit
    Uhuh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >russia
      >roads
      RusBlack folk transferred Azov POWs on AN I think, but westoid confuse it with proper transportation. They tied people with duct tape, binding hands, legs, head, to the point of no blood supply to the limbs, and packed everyone with zero distance between eachother in line.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    friendly fire accident

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is this such a big deal for globohomo? like hundreds of their soldiers die on front everyday. It's statistically insignificant.

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia's just spewing whatever bullshit they can think of to dissuade this from happening again.

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Leftists everywhere including Europe try to restrict guns moron

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do we know what hit the plane yet? Patriot? S-300?

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think I've cracked it. It's pure 100% dezinformatsiya, but it's not aimed at us. It's intended to frick up the uke government's recruitment effort.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, let blow up expensive plane and pilots so we can own hohol.

      Poccия - щeдpaя дyшa, блять, для хoхлoв и caмoлeтoв нe жaлкo.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what if most of Russia unironically believe it's ok to own hohol by losing a plane or two while only a handful of Russian engineers is drowning their sorrow with vodka knowing they can't build more of them?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Russia has another plane shot down inside their territory
          >or has shot it down themselves, again
          >to distract from this "Stupid Holhols that had your POW's onboard you are so stupid hahahah"
          >proofs? No you can't come look at it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It's intended to frick up the uke government's recruitment effort.
        Huh?

        If the Russians believe they can cause at least 10k ukes to dodge military call due to their latest dezinformatziya homosexualry, to them it was worth losing $50 million and 5 crewmen. They don't think of value, money and people as we do. They see it as an opportunity to get an advantage out of what is otherwise a clear failure (getting your plane shot down inside your own airspace).
        Remember that dodging service also increases social tensions, look at what happened during Nam. So it adds to the value perceived by the Russians.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Yeah, let blow up expensive plane and pilots so we can own hohol.
        Sounds exactly what some zigger could say.
        But jokes aside, I think it was another friendly fire incident.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's intended to frick up the uke government's recruitment effort.
      Huh?

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To the people wondering why would Russia make such lies about the IL-76, welcome to the MH17 days, when Russian Ministry of Defense published the craziest theories about the crash as "official investigation". And never published their radar data to the Dutch investigation team, instead showing only a video of the radar screen.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the emergency UN security Council meeting that Russia wanted happened yesterday, Russia got to say some stuff for a 2nd time after the Ukrainian delegation had said their peace, and ofcourse, the Russian delegation just had to throw out some new MH17 denial out there at the council.
      We're apparently still in the MH17 days
      https://www.youtube.com/live/xANBwPHED9A?si=e1UFAoQciboBLoiJ&t=3995 timestamp for MH17 ramblings

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >wectern media

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      As fricked as the west is these days at least we don't get jailed for saying our moronic wars are moronic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Say what you will about globohomo, at least you can call the president a buttfricking moon cricket pedophile to his face. Say what you will, because at least you CAN, unlike gulaghomo.
        There is something beautiful about that. And Drumphy wants to destroy that, not on my watch pal.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >anna chernova
      Why are sharts like this?
      >downed planes with proofs
      >ukraine claims
      >random shit from russian mouth
      >russia says
      Literal russian shills with history in nyt, cnn, bbc and rest.

      [...]
      If the Russians believe they can cause at least 10k ukes to dodge military call due to their latest dezinformatziya homosexualry, to them it was worth losing $50 million and 5 crewmen. They don't think of value, money and people as we do. They see it as an opportunity to get an advantage out of what is otherwise a clear failure (getting your plane shot down inside your own airspace).
      Remember that dodging service also increases social tensions, look at what happened during Nam. So it adds to the value perceived by the Russians.

      Killing ukrainian POWs has zero effect on mobilization in negative way.

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile Russia is ceasing to have a military and its economy and civil infrastructure like electricity, power, heating refining and manufacturing is breaking down.

    26.01.2024
    Tanks — 6265 (+8)
    Armored fighting vehicle — 11637 (+16)
    Artillery systems — 9082 (+15)
    MLRS — 972
    Anti-aircraft warfare — 660
    Planes — 331
    Helicopters — 324
    UAV — 7033
    Cruise missiles — 1845 (+1)
    Ships (boats) — 23
    Submarines — 1
    Other Vehicles and fuel tankers — 12064 (+20)
    Special equipment — 1425 (+5)
    Military personnel — aprx. 380600 people (+990)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They really need to start having the ring circle around again and the percentage go over 100%. Specify the percentage that the Russians have dipped into reserves and boneyards to fill boots, send armor, and put guns in the field.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Russians only have a couple of rounds per tank in 125mm. Its not juts material, their ammunition shortages are chronic, its why they sing on the theme of ammunition shortage constantly, they are projecting. See them taking any old shit they can from best Korea and back with the begging bowl. They have not accumulated trained, experienced professionals in branches like artillery etc while the Ukrainians have. Russian disarmament will continue until none. The air force is next and what's' left of the black sea fleet and the Kerch bridge. Why? They are going for maximum disarmament, they are not going to leave any retreat options and Russia can't even withdraw when they loose air superiority. Whatever weapons Russia has in Ukraine (virtually all of them) are staying there and being destroyed. Russia will never be considered a major military power again for a generation at least (if ever). Russia is already in no position to threaten Europe conventionally ever again. The economic deterioration is chronic behind Putins curtain (most economic statistics are now secret in Russia...wonder why). In ten years how many of Russia nuclear weapons will have funding for the necessary and cripplingly expensive servicing of the tritium, electronics, missiles etc? How many are already useless and inoperable? Russia is finished, over. The EU will never help it or deal with it again. They fricked up so hard that Russia may just cease to exist and break up. If that happens I'd expect to see a portion around St. Petersburg desperately try and get into the EU instead of becoming another Best Korea run by a Chinese regional official(the fate of much of the Russian east).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          While I hope this is true, the EU alone needs to provide ukraine with support for a few more years to ensure the Russian collapse is total. The country has been treated far to nicely and they just shit the world up in return.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >While I hope this is true, the EU alone needs to provide Ukraine with support for a few more years to ensure the Russian collapse is total.
            Ukraine is entirely funded and armed through this year.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The Russians only have a couple of rounds per tank in 125mm.
          The Kremlin on Friday denied a Bloomberg report that Vladimir Putin was “putting out feelers” to the United States for possible talks on ending the war in Ukraine and might consider dropping key demands on Ukraine’s security status, Reuters reports.

          The Bloomberg report said Putin was “testing the waters” on whether Washington was ready to engage in talks, and had reached out to the US via indirect channels.

          It cited two people close to the Kremlin as saying Putin “may be willing to consider dropping an insistence on neutral status for Ukraine and even ultimately abandon opposition to eventual Nato membership – the threat of which has been a central Russian justification for the invasion”.

          Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov was asked by reporters about the story, and specifically whether Moscow was really ready to give up its demands on neutrality and Nato.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            lol. lmao.
            No words out of them should be trusted. No signature from them amount to anything. No treaty they'll sign will have any validity to them. They'll breach it at the fist opportunity.
            The only answer is TZD.
            It's obvious he's doing this to divide the western opinions. "Oh, it's a gateway to end everything there, looks acceptable, plus 85% of Ukraine will now be in NATO, surely they'll be happy. Let's end things there". Gotta admit, it's very smart of him. morons here will gobble this shit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The EU will never help it or deal with it again
          Do the cowardly, cuckwardly Germoids know that? Because it feels like they're just waiting to kneel down before Russia and start tonguing what's left of it's balls.
          I'm not talking about regular Germans here, who seem basically decent, but their incredibly shitty and unbelievably homosexual political class who all seem to be subverted one way or another.
          Why do regular Germans continually have Germoids represent them, by the way? You realise a government are your employees, right? You don't have to take this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >+80000 dead ziggers since start of the Ackdiivka offensyiv
      Too good to be true.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There is a constant stream of armoured columns being destroyed there and the front has barely moved, I can believe in 80,000 casualties if you account for the fact that only a small portion of losses are captures on film. They've been pushing on Avivikda (frick the spelling) since the start of Autumn

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yesterday russian propagandists accidentally spilled some numbers.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Warrior Kitten is a kremlin source
          I know we are in clown world but this is too much to be true.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think its his surname

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Ukraine are losing troops 10:1 on the defensive!
          Going just from the visually confirmed Russian losses that means Russian should be taking the village any day now surely?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Read it again.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah it still makes little sense they write like gays
              >the enemy can't bear 1:10 loss rate!
              >at the moment the ratio is equal
              >they are withdrawing
              So what is? Will Russian be occuping the village next week? Have they even taken the waste heap yet?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the enemy loses one soldier for every 10 we send into the grinder! Surely there will be no holhol pig left at this rate

          why are russians like this? Even propaganda states the individial exists only to be sent unequipped infront of the ukrainian machineguns and cannons in hopes they reduce enemy bullet or shell count at least by one.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah it still makes little sense they write like gays
            >the enemy can't bear 1:10 loss rate!
            >at the moment the ratio is equal
            >they are withdrawing
            So what is? Will Russian be occuping the village next week? Have they even taken the waste heap yet?

            Russia is facing endgame and the loss of the black sea fleet, its airforce, whatever is left of the conventional ground forces artillery pieces and vehicles, Crimea and the kerch bridge and and at this stage even nooking just makes that equally certain. Putins a rat in a cage at this point. Many Russians especially ones with actual military connections already know they just can't say it in public what they DON'T realize is this does not stop with their military annihilation. They are not going to be allowed have an economy again or treated as anything other than savages until the nukes and the fsb and gulags are gone. The military annihilation is lightweight compared to being reduced to sub Saharan Africa by the EU, G7 and USA over the next 10 years.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              TZD

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yup but the real TZD. I don't think there is the will in NATO or the EU or Ukraine to let Putin walk away with any military left, particularly from Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. Them alone
                Sweden
                10.42 million (2021)
                Finland
                5.541 million (2021)
                Estonia
                1.331 million (2021)
                Poland
                37.75 million (2021)
                Ukraine
                43.79 million (2021)
                Lithuania
                2.801 million (2021)
                latvia
                1.884 million (2021)

                Those nations alone are 100+ million people who are younger and wealthier than Russia and have no trade sanctions and access to the EU and NATO. yet we have to listen to this ponderous Russia bullshit about how something something will happen and magically Russia will be left alone to do an old style Stalinist occupation and mass murder spree. Shit like /misc/s /chug is outright fricking dememnted. Not just an alternate point of view but batshit insane and disconnected from reality. By the way, the reality is the UK and France and NATO are not going away. Russia is over. Its pissed off the vastly more powerful and wealthy block right next to it and its not going to be left with a military to threaten anyone with again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >>+80000 dead ziggers since start of the Ackdiivka offensyiv
        >Too good to be true.
        Entirely plausible and reasonable given Putins command for an offensive at all points with everything available at any cost. We've watched enough of it here to know the Russians have been dying like flies and loosing huge amounts of armour and apcs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >990
      I miss the days of 1000+ Russian losses frens.
      I want them to reach out and touch them in Russia, where they spawn. why not 10K losses in a day? It would be so sweet

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Softly Softly Catchee Monkey. Its actually important that Russia does not have a road to bagdad moment that might cause rout and a portion of the Russian conventional forces to continue to exist. Russia has to keep moving its weapons stocks to Ukraine on a steady pace for processing into scrap. Its a delate business, to much and the Russians might run with what is left of their military instead of continuing to bleed in everything they have to an extended pinned and fixed front facing longer raged more accurate artillery. Russia had a lot of stuff from the USSR that it could have used to threaten neighbours for decades and arm dictatorships. They had to send it to Ukraine to be destroyed on a nice regular schedule. Its actually extremely inconvenient/dangerous to Ukraine if Russia retreats, that means Ukraine has to advance to contact and fix and pin the Russian lines again. That's when losses happen. Above all Russia can't leave until their airforce has been destroyed, that happening is your sign this is about to finish fast. Ukraine is going to cut the rails and the kerch bridge and not a single Russian piece of heavy equipment will make it back over the Russian border in the final weeks. Watch. That won't happen as long as they have any kind of mechanised force and they have about 1200-1500 tanks a few hundred mlrs and a couple of thousand + apcs to go. They loose between 200 and 300 tanks a month and supply about ten a month. That being said. It won't carry on slowly until the last vehicle. I expect the last few thousand Russian vehicles to be largely abandoned or destroyed quite quickly in the final rout after the Russian airforce tips into 50%+ losses (remember Russian military jet engines wear out 3x faster than western ones, their airforce has already lost 1/3rd to combat and an unknown number more to accidents and wear). There is no possibility of Russia lasting this year but its going to be very interesting viewing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >There is no possibility of Russia lasting this year
          For Ukraines sake I hope so I've been rooting for those guys since 2014.
          Russia just grinding them down is a possibility still though, and them claiming a win this late into the conflict and after all the suffering they've caused will be unbearable, because you know the shills will instantly forgot the years of utter embrassment and go full
          >Russia Stronk we fight all of NATO and win!

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They either use that to claim already dead POWs were on the plane or they will kill the amount of POWs they said died.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >/k/ simply doesn’t care
    10 years of complete lies from Moscow on every subject imageable and consistently will do that. If you are the kind of person who thinks the Russian government under Putins claims should be given a fair hearing and that they are perhaps plausible you are way to much of simpleton to even be on the internet. There are anons on this board that have been watching Russia lie about Syria, ISIS, Chechnya, the Russian military, conscript rape and murder, Armatas, S400s, SU57, being able to conquer the EU in seven days, little green men in Ukraine in 2014, not going to invade Ukraine, kalibre missiles, the boat is not siking it is returning to port, no losses here, we will nook if you send X etc etc etc. If you actual bothered to go and look at Russian state TV its an undending stream of utter bullshit and lies. Yet there is you saying it must be treated as maybe true. Frick off c**t. Frick right off and if you are actually some sort of Putin supporter, well I hope you die soon. You deserve to for what you cheerleadered for against civilians in Ukraine and threats to destroy the western democratic states which are the light of civilisation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      never shot down airliner Ukraine don it etc etc etc
      we are just tourists smearing nerve agent on doors etc etc etc
      Who the frick actually believes anything he Russian government or clowns like lavrov have to say

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm starting to think that Russians aren't masters of disinformation and 5D chess "Maskirovka" like Tom Clancy and Yuri Bezmenov said.

    Maybe they were just moronic this entire time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Turns out all communists and Russians have is lies and that's not competitive with truth and reality

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Russians being insanely good at agitprop is a cliché propped up by Western media
      It works very well on idiots though, and the world is full of idiots

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The issue is the idiots are overly politicized now so its pretty easy for vatBlack folk to obfuscate, doubly so in an election year. The other day they tried spamming the catalog with US politics to divide people here.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I blame that more on social media than Russians

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >abramovitch's yacht

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >yoba face
        Now that's something I haven't seen in a decade

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hello fellow oldgay. You are educating westerners about intricacies of slav politics, da?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As far as I know, only russians still use it these days.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are as competent as wectoids let them be. And unfortunately wectoids are useless.
      Grozev summed it up perfectly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >wectoids
        Is this your latest nupol stale forced meme word? Frick off.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, its a meme from krautchan /int.

          t.knower

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            /int is just a Russian propaganda board though, its famously run by a full blown zigger Russia walking corpse.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I dont know about now, but i stopped posting on kraut/kohl years ago when they introduced some moronic shit you need to do before posting, not campcha but some different bizzare shit.

              and the wect was the part of ruenglish meme, basically when esl's were speaking mish mash of russian and english.

              t.ukrainian knower who also took part in creation of poland rapes tigers/russiaball

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >creation of poland rapes tigers
                Funniest shit ever. Thank you for the lulz, anon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >took part in creation of poland rapes tigers/russiaball
                Thank you for your service, anon.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The dude who had a meltdown because of the monke putin memepics? He's still here?

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    If you read the whole thing you'll find Lenin like all commies was for total disarmament of the civilian population which would come AFTER the revolution.
    He only wanted civvies to have guns until they overthrow the ruling class, after that the only ones with the guns would be commie police and the military.
    You're either disingenuous or a fricking moron.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Highly unlikely he cares, the kind of morons who unironically use leftypol or pol these days gargle Russian bullshit for breakfast and lefypol
      though its hard to understand always had people who worship a mass murdering scumbag like stalin (tankies). Millions of families in eastern Europe who lost innocent relatives to stalinist and red terror and these fricks are posting Karl Marx and think they are clever. No different to nupol. Just useful idiots for the kremlin.

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’m guessing it was friendly fire and that the POW thing is them trying to make the Ukrainians look bad. Seriously why would they only have 3 guards for 65 prisoners.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The reality Russia can't face. meanwhile some lie about crashed aeroplanes. AGAIN. What the frick is it with Russians and lying about crashed aeroplanes? Is its some sort of compulsion Putin and his bullshit farms have? He's not got much to say about the other 331 Russian military planes Ukraine has destroyed has he? Not so talkative about them. Ah at least its not another passenger airliner full of civilians and kids where zigger scum loot the bodies and luggage at the crash for credit cards to scam and dead children's toys to steal (yes they really did)
    26.01.2024
    Tanks — 6265 (+8)
    Armored fighting vehicle — 11637 (+16)
    Artillery systems — 9082 (+15)
    MLRS — 972
    Anti-aircraft warfare — 660
    Planes — 331
    Helicopters — 324
    UAV — 7033
    Cruise missiles — 1845 (+1)
    Ships (boats) — 23
    Submarines — 1
    Trucks and Fuel tankers — 12064 (+20)
    Special equipment — 1425 (+5)
    Military personnel — aprx. 380600 people (+990)

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    re: useful idiots, why do the UK, Canada, and Australia seem immune to pro-Russian influence over mainstream politics? Memories of being alone against the Nazis in WW2?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >re: useful idiots, why do the UK, Canada, and Australia seem immune to pro-Russian influence over mainstream politics?
      Well the UK in particular is not but then it has always been the main target of Russian efforts. Everything from the Brexit movement Nigel Farage, Jeremey Corbyn, The Greenham common protests, CND, all the various commies and more recently on the left the brown anti-Americanism larping as something Palestine as well as the trade union leadership and on the other end of the pole Patriotic Alternative and lunatic fringe clinging to the DUP in Northern Ireland and loosely hanging on to veterans groups etc. That's balanced off by the fact they are in the five eyes. However Brexit was a Russian psyop to achieve strategic goals in preparation for invading Ukraine, cause division in the EU, get the UK out of the EU, cause tension and deep division in European NATO, economically undermine the UK. Its just as much a Russian operation as CND was or the 'Polish' truckers blockade on Ukraine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >re: useful idiots, why do the UK, Canada, and Australia seem immune to pro-Russian influence over mainstream politics?
      Well the UK in particular is not but then it has always been the main target of Russian efforts. Everything from the Brexit movement Nigel Farage, Jeremey Corbyn, The Greenham common protests, CND, all the various commies and more recently on the left the brown anti-Americanism larping as something Palestine as well as the trade union leadership and on the other end of the pole Patriotic Alternative and lunatic fringe clinging to the DUP in Northern Ireland and loosely hanging on to veterans groups etc. That's balanced off by the fact they are in the five eyes. However Brexit was a Russian psyop to achieve strategic goals in preparation for invading Ukraine, cause division in the EU, get the UK out of the EU, cause tension and deep division in European NATO, economically undermine the UK. Its just as much a Russian operation as CND was or the 'Polish' truckers blockade on Ukraine.

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I don't know, anon, but why would they claim Olenivka was hit by a M31 when there were no signs of a 200 pound warhead detonating there?

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Can you also elevate the video somewhat, give us something that can be geolocated.

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1. If russians didn't lie (LMAO) and POWs were killed, then russia violated Geneva convention and russian POWs are going to be executed. In addition to russian lost aircraft and its crew.
    2. If there were no POWs then russia just lost another aircraft and it's crew + cargo.
    Both options are very bad for russia.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If russia gave a single frick about its pows or it's citizens, war in ukraine would haven not even started and they'd have good ties with europe.

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think this thing was shot down at all. I think it had a part failure or pilot frick up and crashed. If Ukraine said they shot it down well then Ukraine shot it down, until then irrelevant if a Russian says something its not worth listening to. Most likley it had a failure because of poor maintenance and a lot of flight hours (occams razor, Russia has always had a shitty aviation safety history, the entire Red Orchestra choir died in a Tu-154, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38441939) . Aside from oh look a dead Russian plane everything else is garbage because it comes form the mouths of Russians.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >(occams razor, Russia has always had a shitty aviation safety history, the entire Red Orchestra choir died in a Tu-154, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38441939)

      Pic Russian airforce cadets

      "A young man wearing underwear, a bondage belt and pilot’s cap appears on camera. He gyrates his hips and buttocks to the sound of Benny Benassi’s “Satisfaction” before thrusting along the corridors of a student dormitory.

      He dips in and out of rooms, finding scantily-clad students performing tasks to the Satisfaction rhythm – some ironing, some cleaning, others drilling holes in the wall provocatively.

      The video, made by first-year students of the Ulyanovsk Aviation Institute, and released last week, quickly became the most talked about topic in Russia."
      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-naked-air-cadets-video-satisfaction-sexuality-protest-lgbt-gay-military-a8174331.html

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We have video of the crash occurring, in which we can see the cloud of smoke from an explosion. Something took the plane down, maybe a missile, maybe a bomb on board, but it wasn't a mechanical failure.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't think this thing was shot down at all.
      It was, cloud of rocket impact was seen on videos made by Russian citizens

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cloud of rocket impact was seen on videos made by Russian citizens

        I don't think this thing was shot down at all. I think it had a part failure or pilot frick up and crashed. If Ukraine said they shot it down well then Ukraine shot it down, until then irrelevant if a Russian says something its not worth listening to. Most likley it had a failure because of poor maintenance and a lot of flight hours (occams razor, Russia has always had a shitty aviation safety history, the entire Red Orchestra choir died in a Tu-154, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38441939) . Aside from oh look a dead Russian plane everything else is garbage because it comes form the mouths of Russians.

        >garbage because it comes form the mouths of Russians.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          because it comes form the mouths of Russians
          Are you imbecile? None talks about what Russians said but what they filmed. Or you fricking think Russian smartphone cameras have reality warping ability to lie?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're an imbecilic if you believe this shit, they ran the same bullshit with Prigozhin shooting down Russian planes using footage of shootdown in Ukraine during his 'march on moscow'. Russia lies. Comulsively.All the time. ESPECUALLY about aircraft downing's. Is this new to you somehow?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      One of the initial videos shows a portion of fuselage absolutely peppered with large shrapnel. There’s a puff of smoke from the AA missile, and the plane disintegrating in midair. No doubt whatsoever it was shot down.

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't matter. First on the scene footage with like 4 bodies has been out for a while.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It doesn't matter. First on the scene footage with like 4 bodies has been out for a while.

      I don't think this thing was shot down at all. I think it had a part failure or pilot frick up and crashed. If Ukraine said they shot it down well then Ukraine shot it down, until then irrelevant if a Russian says something its not worth listening to. Most likley it had a failure because of poor maintenance and a lot of flight hours (occams razor, Russia has always had a shitty aviation safety history, the entire Red Orchestra choir died in a Tu-154, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38441939) . Aside from oh look a dead Russian plane everything else is garbage because it comes form the mouths of Russians.

      >garbage because it comes form the mouths of Russians.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cloud of rocket impact was seen on videos made by Russian citizens
        [...]
        >garbage because it comes form the mouths of Russians.

        >NOOOO DON'T TRUST YOUR LYING EYES

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          331 Russian military aircraft have been shot down in addition to Ukrainian looses. There is no shortage of footage of aircraft being shot down or crash sites. Imagine believing Russian media and sources.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There was only one Il-76 shot down over Belgorod for footage to make sense. Actually, why do I even argue with you, you're clearly fricking moronic

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yup if you keep believing shit from Russian sources you will find yourself increasingly angry, confused and disconnected from reality.

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    8 IL 76s have been shot down since 2014 3 Ukrainian and 5 Russian. Its a big ask to believe any Russia source. I don't. The ship is one its way back to port apparently. Neither do I give a shit about Russia claims about POWs. Russians are compulsive liars

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Not only Europe. All GOP is in Russia pockets

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      The bit you are missing is so is every open borders anti -American anti -NATO leftist of which there are just as many. I think populist extreme left and right come full circle and with a kremlin quisling installed wherever they are found

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes Russia pay for any movement that will cause discord and unrest like BLM and others. But only a few receive direct orders , among them some GOP and MAGA morons

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You'd think if we could find out about dems fricking chinese spies or hiring them as drivers we would be able to find a single example of someone in the GOP who forgot to delete their whatsapp message from Natalya Honeypotlova

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As of January 2024, a total of 95 Il-76 series aircraft have been written off in crashes and other accidents.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That can't be true

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yet it is true

        I don't think this thing was shot down at all. I think it had a part failure or pilot frick up and crashed. If Ukraine said they shot it down well then Ukraine shot it down, until then irrelevant if a Russian says something its not worth listening to. Most likley it had a failure because of poor maintenance and a lot of flight hours (occams razor, Russia has always had a shitty aviation safety history, the entire Red Orchestra choir died in a Tu-154, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38441939) . Aside from oh look a dead Russian plane everything else is garbage because it comes form the mouths of Russians.

        >Russia has always had a shitty aviation safety history,

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >As of January 2024, a total of 95 Il-76 series aircraft have been written off in crashes and other accidents.

      That can't be true

      >That can't be true

      Yet it is true
      [...]
      >Russia has always had a shitty aviation safety history,

      >Yet it is true

      https://aviation-safety.net/database/types/Ilyushin-76/losses

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      All of those are true though, especially the one where all the people on the plane were already dead (sacrificed to Moloch) and the plane was crashed as a cover up. Also, MH17 never existed. Adrenochrome! Russia dindu nuffin!

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If Russia killed POWs ahead of time, Ukraine will just do the same while the West looks away.

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lmfaoooooo they're back at it again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Out of all the moronic things Elon has done, Community Notes was the one he got right.
      It’s a better system to keep up Russian claims with a counterfactual rather than just deleting it or shadowbanning their accounts.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Community Notes was the one he got right.
        They already existed, but Elon certainly fixed them.. And then he threatened to remove them after too much of what he ideologically aligns with got community noted, but I think he's cooled on that again, thankfully.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That basically proves there were no POW's on board. If they are having to invoke MH17 to try and get people to believe them they must have nothing.
      Probably a case of the lie being published and gaining traction while the other agencies weren't ready for it so now they are scrambling.

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The only problem with this is that once you win a revolution you realize that you are surrounded by enemies. Whatever kind of magic powder the Americans had other revolutions didn't.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Whatever kind of magic powder the Americans had other revolutions didn't.
      They were Anglo and thus are the protagonists of world history.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Or, the fact that the people who won the war for the Revolutionaries were French, Spanish and Dutch (don't believe 'le heroic minuteman defeating evil global spanning empire - the British were irrelevant in the world stage in the 18th century, France and Spain were the big boys) and because the Revolutionaries were basically British they immediately went back to hating external enemies rather than internal. So they hated the French, Dutch and Spanish. There was no time to suddenly go
        >We need to revolution AGAIN

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