> You gentle Russians. Gentle Russians, hear me. Friends, Russians, sodomites, lend me your eggs! I come to bury the Caesar, not to praise it. The damage that howitzers do lives after them, The good is oft interred with their barrel; So let it be with the Caesar. This was the noblest Howitzer of them all. All the conscripts save only he, did what they did in envy of the great Caesar. It only, in a general honest campaign, and common will for all, made one of them. His recoil was gentle, and the mobility so mixed in mud that the nature might stand up and say to all the world, "This was a cannon."
>and artycels in England now a-bed shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their starstreaks cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Pringle's day.
>and artycels in England now a-bed shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their starstreaks cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Pringle's day.
lancets are cute, and effective at hitting targets, but the warhead is too small to seriously damage armored vehicles.
Why does NEITHER side operate artillery in battery? It’s surreal seeing all these gun systems designed to coordinate firepower in volleys of shattering concentrated storms of iron just putter about individually. Like a public server BF4 player abandoning the team to go larp as a sniper in the corner of the map all game.
Counter battery you goof. Both sides are good at it, though Russians not as much and it's continually degrading (running out of radars). They fire and flee called "shoot and scoot". It's why Siege Tanks work better than towed artilery since they can skidaddle away easier.
I kind of agree with this moron, the Lancet is lacking but it's not terrible in itself. Sure, it's like 10% of what was advertised and lacks a dual purpose warhead, wobbles around with shit aim, and is either too expensive for what it is or doesn't perform as well as it should for the price. It should just be loitering around Ukrainian positions until it spots opportunity targets and destroy them. It's not terrible at that.
What really hurts Russia is that they don't have GMLRS, so when they spot a target they have to send a Lancet to fill that role, and it's just completely inadequate. Webm related, imagine if Ukies had to send Lancets on those targets instead of GMLRS, half the SPGs would get away and it's not even a guaranteed hit or kill. And that's really the point, the fuck's the point of Lancet if you have to use another drone to spot the target and use it instead of a simply better weapon?
GMLRS has greater firepower but it requires spotting and the target to remain stationary. Meanwhile Lancet can spot targets and attack moving ones. Obviously Russia would benefit from having accurate MLRS but it doesn’t take away from Lancet’s effectiveness.
>half decent weapon >Russia losing the artillery war anyway >nooo but look at how effective it is
The Lancet isn't terrible like I said, though obviously Russian hands built it, but they're just trying to use it to fill a role it can't against an enemy with sufficient resources. And that's just not something to brag or spam about.
That's the entire point, gay. Russia doesn't have GMLRS so they try to use a DIY drone instead. Then thirdies on here brag about Lancet kills without realizing that Russia is trying to conduct counter-battery with a DIY drone. It's just pathetic.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Fair enough.
non, the frogs have doubled their production rate
they'd have to destroy 48 a year to keep up with the possible replacements
No, it is about twice that a year right now.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the West has barely started to scale up weapon production again in response to russia >already just france can replace howitzers one hundred times faster than russia can destroy them
unipolar moment
GMLRS has greater firepower but it requires spotting and the target to remain stationary. Meanwhile Lancet can spot targets and attack moving ones. Obviously Russia would benefit from having accurate MLRS but it doesn’t take away from Lancet’s effectiveness.
>Since when did Ukraine get the 8x8?
Denmark decided to transfer all the Caesars they were having delivered from France to Ukraine, and will now buy an Israeli howitzer for their own forces instead
I legit think that PrepHole and PrepHole should be separated. At the very least have nothing on PrepHole link back to PrepHole boards, ESPECAILLY on mobile. That would help a lot.
Didn't moot delete 4chan at some point? I vaguely remember a time where they kept mocking him? Calling him a luggage cuck or something like that? Why'd he even bother bringing that shithole back?
moot deleted /n/ - News shortly before it became Transportation in 2008. Some years later he recreated is as /new/. Then it got deleted again and resurfaced as 4chan.
Why does NEITHER side operate artillery in battery? It’s surreal seeing all these gun systems designed to coordinate firepower in volleys of shattering concentrated storms of iron just putter about individually. Like a public server BF4 player abandoning the team to go larp as a sniper in the corner of the map all game.
Ammo shortages I assume. If they just keep spamming batteries they will burn through their stockpile with minimal effect. Drones and other modern technology provide precise targeting options so there's no need for batteries to take out a single target anyways. Unless you can singlehandedly fix the global shortage of artillery shells, neither side will do a good old fashioned battery.
Just because you don't see these beautiful lines of artillery pieces laying on a field firing in unison doesn't mean they aren't used as a battery. We have these things called radios and trajectory calculations in this century.
Anon please. Artillery hasn't had to line up in a field to coordinate their fires on a singular target since the 1930s.
(Except Russian artillery. They still don't have WW2 artillery coordination, lmao)
Imagine, going from >xaxaxa ukraine in two weeks russia strong
to >xaxaxa finally at 556th day of our special military operation we destroyed Caesar SPG
If you only talk about losses from one side you are not following the war, you are mindlessly supporting a team.
A western SPG is a big enough loss to get a thread because they kill so few.
No, the mods should start adding wordfilters, Hohol should become Albanian, Kyiv should become Kiev, Kiev should become Kyiv, drone should become duck.
Remember that the glavset saves months of lancet videos and releases them in bulk, most of them edited, to blow their effectiveness out of proportion. Their hit rate is abysmal, and most of them result in misses.
Also remember that the lines of defense on southeast Ukraine are currently being breached, hence the barrage of glavset roosters spam bombing the board.
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It burned down?
At this rate the russians should have eliminated all Caesars in around 20-30 years.
non, the frogs have doubled their production rate
they'd have to destroy 48 a year to keep up with the possible replacements
More than that. The production rate is at about 6/month now and is increasing to 8/month by the end of the year.
Do we have some intel or guesses about the Russian howitzer production rate?
ET TU MONKE
> You gentle Russians. Gentle Russians, hear me. Friends, Russians, sodomites, lend me your eggs! I come to bury the Caesar, not to praise it. The damage that howitzers do lives after them, The good is oft interred with their barrel; So let it be with the Caesar. This was the noblest Howitzer of them all. All the conscripts save only he, did what they did in envy of the great Caesar. It only, in a general honest campaign, and common will for all, made one of them. His recoil was gentle, and the mobility so mixed in mud that the nature might stand up and say to all the world, "This was a cannon."
underrated comment
very PrepHoleultured
>and artycels in England now a-bed shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their starstreaks cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Pringle's day.
Getting pretty highbrow in here.
>one piece of wester equipment destroyed
>CesAR BrOs whAt WENt WrONg
you realise that in warfare equipment gets lost right? even in iraq the US lost a handful of abrams
Since when did Ukraine get the 8x8?
And it was a Lancet.
Proofs?
Pajeet, please. No Lancet shilling.
lancets are cute, and effective at hitting targets, but the warhead is too small to seriously damage armored vehicles.
Counter battery you goof. Both sides are good at it, though Russians not as much and it's continually degrading (running out of radars). They fire and flee called "shoot and scoot". It's why Siege Tanks work better than towed artilery since they can skidaddle away easier.
>effective at hitting targets
>effective at hitting targets
But for some reason, it just keeps targeting trees.
I kind of agree with this moron, the Lancet is lacking but it's not terrible in itself. Sure, it's like 10% of what was advertised and lacks a dual purpose warhead, wobbles around with shit aim, and is either too expensive for what it is or doesn't perform as well as it should for the price. It should just be loitering around Ukrainian positions until it spots opportunity targets and destroy them. It's not terrible at that.
What really hurts Russia is that they don't have GMLRS, so when they spot a target they have to send a Lancet to fill that role, and it's just completely inadequate. Webm related, imagine if Ukies had to send Lancets on those targets instead of GMLRS, half the SPGs would get away and it's not even a guaranteed hit or kill. And that's really the point, the fuck's the point of Lancet if you have to use another drone to spot the target and use it instead of a simply better weapon?
In reality Lancet is reaping arty. It has a small warhead but it’s bigger than the Javelin’s and it’s enough to kill arty systems.
It's reaping volumes of spam previously unheard of before. At this rate Russia will achieve telegram superiority in a matter of months.
>half decent weapon
>Russia losing the artillery war anyway
>nooo but look at how effective it is
The Lancet isn't terrible like I said, though obviously Russian hands built it, but they're just trying to use it to fill a role it can't against an enemy with sufficient resources. And that's just not something to brag or spam about.
Here's some more GMLRS for comparison. Could the Lancet even do half of this?
Apples to oranges, anon.
Comparing a DYI drone to Iskander isn't really fair, eh?
That's the entire point, gay. Russia doesn't have GMLRS so they try to use a DIY drone instead. Then thirdies on here brag about Lancet kills without realizing that Russia is trying to conduct counter-battery with a DIY drone. It's just pathetic.
Fair enough.
No, it is about twice that a year right now.
>the West has barely started to scale up weapon production again in response to russia
>already just france can replace howitzers one hundred times faster than russia can destroy them
unipolar moment
tbh the carboard drones have already seemed more effective than iskanders
GMLRS has greater firepower but it requires spotting and the target to remain stationary. Meanwhile Lancet can spot targets and attack moving ones. Obviously Russia would benefit from having accurate MLRS but it doesn’t take away from Lancet’s effectiveness.
Can the Lancet even take on buildings? Can it destroy a whole base in a minute?
Here's some more. Feel free to post your best GMLRS webms.
I really like this one. A whole convoy getting annihilated.
nice.
Look at that shrapnel. Why doesn't the Lancet warhead have this?
This is a completely different spot, do you think they drove it away while on fire?
>Since when did Ukraine get the 8x8?
Denmark decided to transfer all the Caesars they were having delivered from France to Ukraine, and will now buy an Israeli howitzer for their own forces instead
It's a war, shit happens.
That would require the banning of pol which might unironically destroy the site since they're all corraled in their own board. Sometimes.
>That would require the banning of pol
would be great but they'd also have to ban /int/, /PrepHole/ and /b/ too
I legit think that PrepHole and PrepHole should be separated. At the very least have nothing on PrepHole link back to PrepHole boards, ESPECAILLY on mobile. That would help a lot.
>ESPECAILLY on mobile
Just ban phoneposters altogether
pol should be closed but before that it's user base should be rounded up and either re-educated or simply euthanised.
Didn't moot delete 4chan at some point? I vaguely remember a time where they kept mocking him? Calling him a luggage cuck or something like that? Why'd he even bother bringing that shithole back?
moot deleted /n/ - News shortly before it became Transportation in 2008. Some years later he recreated is as /new/. Then it got deleted again and resurfaced as 4chan.
>Can we just, like, ban anyone i don’t like??
You have to go back
Yes. Go back to Russia!
No, bullying vatmorons is my favorite part of this embarrassment of a war.
Why does NEITHER side operate artillery in battery? It’s surreal seeing all these gun systems designed to coordinate firepower in volleys of shattering concentrated storms of iron just putter about individually. Like a public server BF4 player abandoning the team to go larp as a sniper in the corner of the map all game.
Ammo shortages I assume. If they just keep spamming batteries they will burn through their stockpile with minimal effect. Drones and other modern technology provide precise targeting options so there's no need for batteries to take out a single target anyways. Unless you can singlehandedly fix the global shortage of artillery shells, neither side will do a good old fashioned battery.
Just because you don't see these beautiful lines of artillery pieces laying on a field firing in unison doesn't mean they aren't used as a battery. We have these things called radios and trajectory calculations in this century.
Anon please. Artillery hasn't had to line up in a field to coordinate their fires on a singular target since the 1930s.
(Except Russian artillery. They still don't have WW2 artillery coordination, lmao)
Imagine, going from
>xaxaxa ukraine in two weeks russia strong
to
>xaxaxa finally at 556th day of our special military operation we destroyed Caesar SPG
Gentle reminder it wasn't even supposed to take 2 weeks.
Does anyone have that cod like russian propaganda about going to paris or some shit ?
Holy shit, do you think it's...
>mental illness
>IV narcotics
>mental illness and IV narcotics
...that make people come up with this?
Msta bros, what went wrong?
Don't forget these.
>Massive Stupid Turret full of Artillery
>middle of empty field
they clearly did not scoot hard enough,
that said any trees are an obvious target.
Sure look like different fields but whatever. Looks like the crew would have gotten away, they are far more valuable anyway.
hi, i would like to know how many hohols are left,
the pic was posted by ukrainians, who funnily enough have little issue when it comes to showing their own losses
So that is 2 damaged and 1 destroyed.
Good for Russia, truly a 2nd military in Ukraine.
You mean what went so right?
Raped vatmorons so hard that they developed a copy of it lmao
>sees white women
>thinks of gayshit
I wonder who could be behind this post
Were you the fat incel on the left?
...anon, this is what normal people who go outside look like, apart from the Ukrainian symbology.
CEEEAAAAAASAAAAAAR!
Brutus et tu?
If you only talk about losses from one side you are not following the war, you are mindlessly supporting a team.
A western SPG is a big enough loss to get a thread because they kill so few.
No, the mods should start adding wordfilters, Hohol should become Albanian, Kyiv should become Kiev, Kiev should become Kyiv, drone should become duck.
Lancet should become Microsoft Tech Support.
there should be more worldfilters baka
It's war. Losses happen.
Remember that the glavset saves months of lancet videos and releases them in bulk, most of them edited, to blow their effectiveness out of proportion. Their hit rate is abysmal, and most of them result in misses.
Also remember that the lines of defense on southeast Ukraine are currently being breached, hence the barrage of glavset roosters spam bombing the board.
>Their hit rate is abysmal, and most of them result in misses.
They're also countered by butterfly nets and tennis rackets.
>truck with rockets
>truck with a gun
These are wunderwaffles whose one unit can change the result of a whole offensive.