Buying a Bunker Instead of a House

So, seeing how shitty most American homes are built, does it make sense to buy a bunker instead and built a small fake house on top to make it look like a normal property? I'm going to be living in northwestern Oklahoma for work.

Pic related is what I'm looking at. I was quoted around $550k total with installation. I already own the land and have well water and a septic on it. No electricity yet but I'm working on it.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What is that, a bunker for ants?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/CkbvffL.jpeg

      So, seeing how shitty most American homes are built, does it make sense to buy a bunker instead and built a small fake house on top to make it look like a normal property? I'm going to be living in northwestern Oklahoma for work.

      Pic related is what I'm looking at. I was quoted around $550k total with installation. I already own the land and have well water and a septic on it. No electricity yet but I'm working on it.

      You're not getting a bunker worth a shot, especially at that size and equipped, for $500k in today's economy.
      Have fun drowning in that thing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is really the biggest thing, I think
        Oklahoma has flooding, how do you plan to avoid it?
        One flooding and the whole bunker is a worthless mold-covered liability

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He probably doesn't even have a deli.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, maybe? I think the upkeep will be more than it’s worth. What do you plan to do for insurance?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've been told by the builder that it will keep temp pretty well, even on extremely hot or cold days, since there are no windows to speak of. It can pretty much sit indefinitely.

      Idk about the insurance honestly. Don't even know if I would need it for anything beyond the aboveground property. The bunker is buried 15 feet down.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    at what altitude is that Bunker located?
    any large bodies of water nearby?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its in the middle of the plains. Not too hilly or mountainous. Red clay dirt with the water table down about 180 ft. No lakes, streams or rivers nearby.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sounds good

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Prepare to be flooded a la Fatima

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    y tho

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because a quality house will have similar build costs but also have more maintenance needs. It is also not tornado proof like the bunker is, nor is it nuke proof, which the bunker is to surface detonations as close as one mile. Its also relatively fedproof. They would need to use some big bombs to get to it.

      looks small.
      you’re gonna want at least 2 more small bedrooms
      If shtf, there’s people you’ll be unable to say no to, whether from compassion or mutual benefit.
      I’d also strongly encourage getting a well dug in a way so the wellhead is in your bunker.
      In a real SHTF situation, you’ll also want to grow shit hydroponically, on another floor below you.
      Probably put in 2 or 3 more escape tunnels that stop a few feet short of the surface.
      You’ll want more shop/fabrication space, too.
      Good start though. Better than nothing.
      good luck and godspeed, bunkeranon.

      I don't have any family beyond my parents, and they are fricked regardless. I have no kids, no wife, and a few close friends, but they are off doing their own thing.

      I really buying this because houses are just terrible value propositions right now and are easily fricked with by tornadoes and large hail. In the future I might build one on top, but I figure the bunker will never lose value being what it is.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well if your consideration is to survive either weather events and/or the initalblasts of nuclearwar, then the bunker will serve you well. if your intention to is to survive a determined team of attackers, then youd better locate that bunker on mars! because otherwise your fricked.

        And heres another thing. the "mad max" style apocalyptic scenario is very unlikely. Consider that even 300 years ago, we had no eletricity, no industrial revolution, no steam power .... but we still had governments, laws, sheriffs, marshalls, armies and essentially lived in organized societies. So if a societal collpase happens, it wont be "mad max", it will be more like "The Rover". There will still be limited law enforcement, taxes and private property. It will just be a lot less. People will have to be more self reliant, but not completely self sufficient, adn the law, such as it is, will only be enforced by the wealthy, for the wealthy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Just because we had civilization 300 years ago doesn't mean that we can't have temporary breakdowns in civilization that approach mad max.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            even in the case of a temporary breakdown, i think your best chance lays above ground. the problem with below ground is it limits your ability to actively defend. the only benefit you gain from being below ground is reduced heating costs. with an above groudn structure, you can fight back, and thats going to make getting in a whole lot more difficult.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              in theory he might be undetected.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                with dogs. not likely.

                but that brings us to consideration number one .... location

                location is the most important aspect to consider. the location must be defendable, and include readily availible food, water and power. bonuses to location include, inaccessibility, defendability, environmental factors.

                to be defendable by a loner, you have to go mobile inawoods. or so off grid that your dick pronecke.

                with a small group, you could chose a location. with a bunker, at that point, you'd need a location that was inaccesible to dogs, and I simply cannot imagine a place humans could go and a dog couldnt.

                I did manage to conceive of one method however. Your bunker is located behind a cliff wall along a river at the headwater to a lake. the river allows you to generate electricity. the alke allows fishing. youd need the entrance to be concealed by an underwater cave entrance. exhaust gases could be piped to leak out into the lake, thus dispersing the scents and making detection by dogs very difficult. this obviously would be ALOT of work. but theoritically you could maintain concealment indefinately. as an upside, if you chose a location with very cold and prolonged winters (montana, wyoming, dakota, canada) you coudl dramamtically reduce the likelihood of detection, and gain a significant deterent to sige type tactics.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Your bunker is located behind a cliff wall along a river at the headwater to a lake
                I have considered this. Or going down to the edge of a cliff in a canyon or something that you can have piping and other stuff exit hundreds of feet in their air. Natural cave with waterfall could generate electricty.
                Of course this is prohibitively expensive to your average working stiff (Me)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                thats why a sailboat is a much better SHTF escape vehicle. a sailboat and a ocean coast. go north. if its in north america, on west coast, once you pass vancouver island, there is NOTHING. theres no roads into those areas. the settlements are very small, the fjords stretch inland for hundreds of kilometres. it would be ahard scramble life, thats for sure, but its a whole lot better then fighting off hordes of Black folk. hide out there for a year or two, let civilization resume, and the Black person hordes decimate themselves.

                if your on the east coast, you need to get past newfoundland, then its the same as west coast ... desolate, teaming with widllife, very inaccessible. labrador has polar bears though ... so bring a rifle.

                you should purchase a stainless steel marine shotgun. bring plenty of birdshot too. theres ducks and gulls all along the way. you'll never run out of game.

                not that Im expecting anythign like to this to ever happen, god forbid. but if we did have a nuclear war or soemthing, thats what i would do. head for knight inlet. I been there dozens of times, worked for years there, know it well. there is no road connection over the coast mountains, so the onyl access is boat or plane.

                there is easily 100 little landings, ussually with a pier and some cleared area. some even have some old buildings and abandoned logging equipment. there little fishing camps and old trappers cabins. the water is clean, the wildlife abundant, and theres very souls hardy enough to go there. certainly no one is goign to chase you there.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >has polar bears though ... so bring a rifle.
                also always remember, you cant eat the Liver of a Polar Bear. its deadly.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you cna actually eat a tiny little piece, about the size of your fingernail, and get a months worth of vitamin a! but generally any artic creatures liver should be avoided. bear should be avoided anyways (trichonosis), however trich only infects about 4% of the bear populations, with older gears more likely then younger bears, and with proper cooking techniques (boil the hell out of it) trich will be killed.

                the smart idea is to stick to vegetarian animals ... deer, moose, elk. i never liked liver, but i do enjoy the heart.

                you should not eat the liver of animal that routinely swims in the ocean. seal liver is just as bad as polar bear. seal isnt bad eating, but its really blubbery, slimey and kinda gross. the meat is almost black when cooked. not really appetizing quite frankly. Ive never tried polar bear.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/1bnGgiQ.gif

                >You can't know this, there are plenty of people in those places and they will absolutely think of hiding there too. Can never be too careful, it takes 1 guy with a rifle and you're dead.

                I do know this dude. I worked there for several seasons. Theres no permanent settlements in knight inlet, or butte inlet, and those are just one of thousands (though those are the big ones).

                but Knight or butte might not be best choice for SHTF. maybe go further north, up towards stewart. theres even fewer people.

                now with regards to avoiding every single living soul.well your right, probably not possible. but the idea is to avoid the worst of the Black person hordes, adn give yourself a fighting chance. also the people in these areas tend already to be fairly rugged and self reliant people, who are unlikely to just go to "rape murder burn" mode. its more then likely they would welcome the end to a federal government!

                for isntance a very old friend of mine owns dawsons landing, pic related, which is really just a floating gas station and fishing charter place up near rivers inlet. hes been there for years with his family. i know him well.

                [...]
                yeah sailing is awesome, and my youngest son, (14) is taking to it very well.

                I say this wholeheartedly and uniroincally

                After reading your comments itt all twice, you sound really great and full of wisdom and I wish I could work on the land and learn from you for a few seasons , dang

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                just get a job in forestry man. you'll meet a thousadn guys that know more then me. the fellas who work in forestry do it because they love the forest. they also get to spend alot of time alone, surrounded by natures beauty, her unrelenting nature. natural law in its rawest forms. when you spend alot of time alone, you have alot of time to think. when a man pits himself against nature, he has loses his desire to compete with other humans, they are no longer worthy adverseries.

                you know that series "Alone". its interesting, one thing that really stuck with me, was how all the contestants remarked that after a few weeks alone, they started to remember things, things from long ago, when they were little children. all the memories come pouring back ... and you start to sort through your life. you know we live in world where we are bombarded constantly with all kinds of data, news, pictures, endless circus freaks and our minds didnt evolve for that. our minds and our bodies evolved to run miles a day, to hunt, to fish, to outsmart nature for one more day, and for millions of years our minds evolved "Alone".

                go for a solo canoe trip into the backcountry for a few weeks. man im telling you, it will clear away all the cobwebs. you will know what to do with your life. and you will piece together things, things you have missed. the people who betrayed you, the people who saved you. your mind is like a computer, and a good canoe trip is like running crap cleaner or bleach bit! free up some RAM to allow you to compute some of the shit that went down. figure stuff out. you'll know who your friends really are, and you'll know your enemies too, and you'll know you dont have to fight them, just avoid them. A man who sits by the river long enough, lives to see his enemies float by! Fight them by outsmarting them, and you'll never have to fight.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Absolutely this. In times of strife small intercostal vessels are king. During Romes slide into barbarity, overland routes became impassable due to banditry and poor maintenance.

                Long distance travel was much safer by boat. And profitable.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I have many regrets, some unfathomable,
                but one of the more petty is that I never learned to sail.
                I planned to live aboard a sailboat once, but never did it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you so scared of dogs you weird c**t. Who are these bogeymen with dogs you're so worried about? kek. Why not get a fricking dog yourself and be the hunter if its so valid.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why do I fear them?
                Well if you plan to hole up in a bunker, then you have to have an exhaust port and an air intake. now the intake is not an issue. but the exhaust port certainly is. Because if I was a maurading pirate searching for bunkers, Id use dogs. I probably dont need to say this, but dogs can smell stuff about 250,000 times better then humans. Dogs could locate the exhaust port. and once they do, and the bandits manage to plug it up, youre fricked, you have to come out, or die.

                A police dog once smelled the decaying corpse of a girl murdered a decade earlier and the body dumped in a lake. And that dog could smell it, ten years later, under 30 feet of water! Now obviously it couldnt pinpoint the location, but it knew enough to stand near the lake edge, and the that gave the divers all they needed. Those cadaver dogs can smell a deer buried six feet underground! Never underestimate a dogs ability to locate a human ..... even underground.

                So dogs will be the friend of bandits searching for people to murder and rape ... and of course food. They are going to use dogs to locate your bunker. Dogs can also hear stuff humans cant. So its not that I dont like dogs, in fact they are awesome. I do however respect them, and thier abilities.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Build decoy house on top of entrance
                >Hide entrance well
                >Raiders show up, eat decoy supplies, maybe stay the night
                >The decoy house is rigged up so that it can be remotely locked and sealed from the bunker below
                >exhaust from generators is diverted into the house's HVAC
                >raiders die in their sleep
                >next morning loot their corpses and strew them around the perimeter of the property to warn off others.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, triple decker, decoy house, decoy "hidden" room, massive subterranean palatial estate underneath.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Where do we gas the raiders? Someone's gotta get gassed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >build successful trap house
                >loot corpses easily, they come to you
                >ruin entire scheme by warning off others
                Anon idk what to say

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The trap house is good, but you don't actually want to attract people. Dozens of rotting corpses strewn around a house will make most people think twice about approaching.

                If people keep showing up, eventually you will frick up, like gassing a group of raiders while one of them is out for a piss. He goes back to his raider camp and tells them that this house just gassed a dozen of their buddies. The whole gang rolls up and torches the house to the ground. They find the hidden entrance, realize that you need to breathe, find the air vents and pump in exhaust from their motorbikes forcing you out of your bunker. Then they cut off your face and wear it while they rape you to death.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The funny thing is Broadway tower you posted has an ROC bunker right next to it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Above ground, got it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I don't understand why morons always believe you have to defend your bunker. A SHTF scenario being so bad that you have to hide in a bunker, the chances of you ever meeting another person is in the decimals, if you are not near a lake or river or the sea you are practically alone.
              >I'm going to find your airducts and block them
              Good Luck! It must be hard finding it in a unkempt field of long grass.
              Nobody is going to second guess the metal pipe with grating sticking out of the ground, it will just be accepted as piping.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >if your intention to is to survive a determined team of attackers, then youd better locate that bunker on mars! because otherwise your fricked.

          Literally the richest and smartest people on earth have war-gamed bunker design and defense scenarios. A bunch of morons with ar15s and torches and pitchforks are not going to breach them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Lol, with all the wars are currently going on atgm launches and cheap suicide drones are widely available now. These two are already enough to breach a bunker. If shit hits the fun there will be way more weapons at anyone disposal one way or another

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I was thinking of pinning up signs on bulletin boards and stuff offering classes on how to breach survival bunkers of the wealthy, just to see what kind of response I got.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          300 years ago, there were not 7,000,000,000 brownoids on this planet. They all depend on industry to survive, and if SHTF they will revert back to their natural feral tendencies, most likely resulting in exhaustion of natural resources and extinction of any species that can be eaten.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Locals will get shitty and try to lawfare your bunker away

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    looks small.
    you’re gonna want at least 2 more small bedrooms
    If shtf, there’s people you’ll be unable to say no to, whether from compassion or mutual benefit.
    I’d also strongly encourage getting a well dug in a way so the wellhead is in your bunker.
    In a real shtf situation, you’ll also want to grow shit hydroponically, on another floor below you.
    Probably put in 2 or 3 more escape tunnels that stop a few feet short of the surface.
    You’ll want more shop/fabrication space, too.
    Good start though. Better than nothing.
    good luck and godspeed, bunkeranon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I just dont see a bunker as a solution. Even with a wellhead, and underground agri-rooms. Youll need alot of space to grow enough food for four people.

      once the bunkers location si discovered, there is no amount of protection that will prevent a determined team from effecting an entry.

      I think either a ship or a castle is a better idea. The ship because you can keep moving, and theres plenty of places to hide, and you can always fish.

      A castle, with an appropriate amount of defenders, could work very well too. A castle, on the ocean, with a ship as an escape vehicle would probably be a best case scenario.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Its not exclusively for shtf. Its primarily to live in normally.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A ship is a bad idea
        >consumes a tonne of fuel (both to move and to heat etc)
        >needs repairs that require underwater welding OR a drydock (you have neither)
        >very hard to close airtight in case of fallout etc
        >very visible when you cast anchor off a coast to get on land
        >would have to cast anchor beyond the horizon line (this means you need a motorized smaller boat to get to land, more fuel and noise)
        >fishing isn't actually that easy on the high seas, especially for 1 person alone

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          a tonne of fuel (both to move and to heat etc)
          sailboat
          repairs that require underwater welding OR a drydock (you have neither)
          not if its small
          >>very hard to close airtight in case of fallout etc
          thats true
          >>very visible when you cast anchor off a coast to get on land
          we are going where no one is
          have to cast anchor beyond the horizon line (this means you need a motorized smaller boat to get to land, more fuel and noise)
          no.not around here
          isn't actually that easy on the high seas, especially for 1 person alone
          we arent goign for "high seas". ... we are going for the fjords and archipelagos of BC, yukon, and alaska

          trust me bro. i worked in forestry on bc coasts for years. there is a thousand fjords that have NO land connection. almost all have makeshift docks built by logging operations in years gone by, abandoned fishing camps. you coudl hunt directly from your boat. Ive seen tons of wildlife from my boat. some of the inlets, are hundreds of kilometres long. for a european, think along the lines of the norwegian coast, and all the places you could hide a small sailboat.

          a small boat could easily be handled by a crew of one, but two would be awesome.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That sounds adventurous awesome and comfy as frick. Why not just do it?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >sailboat
            >not if its small
            Ok but then it's a boat not a ship, and also not comparable to multi-room bunker like OP posted.
            >we are going where no one is
            > fjords and archipelagos of BC, yukon, and alaska
            You can't know this, there are plenty of people in those places and they will absolutely think of hiding there too. Can never be too careful, it takes 1 guy with a rifle and you're dead.

            Either way, if you're talking about a normal boat, then yes that would work, but its very different from having a relatively large bunker like OP suggests.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >You can't know this, there are plenty of people in those places and they will absolutely think of hiding there too. Can never be too careful, it takes 1 guy with a rifle and you're dead.

              I do know this dude. I worked there for several seasons. Theres no permanent settlements in knight inlet, or butte inlet, and those are just one of thousands (though those are the big ones).

              but Knight or butte might not be best choice for SHTF. maybe go further north, up towards stewart. theres even fewer people.

              now with regards to avoiding every single living soul.well your right, probably not possible. but the idea is to avoid the worst of the Black person hordes, adn give yourself a fighting chance. also the people in these areas tend already to be fairly rugged and self reliant people, who are unlikely to just go to "rape murder burn" mode. its more then likely they would welcome the end to a federal government!

              for isntance a very old friend of mine owns dawsons landing, pic related, which is really just a floating gas station and fishing charter place up near rivers inlet. hes been there for years with his family. i know him well.

              That sounds adventurous awesome and comfy as frick. Why not just do it?

              yeah sailing is awesome, and my youngest son, (14) is taking to it very well.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >there is a thousand fjords that have NO land connection. almost all have makeshift docks built by logging operations in years gone by, abandoned fishing camps. you coudl hunt directly from your boat. Ive seen tons of wildlife from my boat. some of the inlets, are hundreds of kilometres long. for a european, think along the lines of the norwegian coast,
            That sounds amazing, ngl. Fiberglass sailboats still need maintenance, the rigging and sails don't last forever. Could consider a cat or junk rigged boat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bro.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          "I bought mine on castletrader.com."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Stuff is far less expensive in France, tho.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How am I doing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What about a star fortress, on a island ?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So, seeing how shitty most American homes are built

    Just buy a brick house if it concerns you.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the problem always comes around to two things
    (1) how to protect the door from discovery
    (2) how to generate unlimited power and fresh water

    the answer, at least as far as i can imagine, is to have an underwater entrance, somewhere along a river that can also be used as hydro electric generator. even then, you will need some type of exhaust port and fresh air intakes, which cannot be underwater.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In the netflix show The Rain. The government set up a series of small bunkers. Like 20 of them. Timed shelters meant I think to house like 6 people for 4 years or so. What was interesting is the power system. Each bunker had a limited battery backup that when lost main power they went into a low power mode. The main power was supplied by a small wind farm. Each individual bunker was some distance from each bunker and the wind farm, so you wouldn't know it was powering them. The wind farm had its own battery system for overnight mains power. Wasn't addressed in the show but it would allow you to even have reduced power at certain times, like not running hvac when the wind wasn't blowing to limit main battery power needs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Rain bunker was a level 4 shelter focusing on biological warfare. It did have limited self repair but not enough to justify level five. It also had a small salad hydroponics setup.

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  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Radon

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks terrible.

    >No designated library
    >No designated triage center
    >No designated gun area.
    >No designated growing areas

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >No designated gun area.
      Look again
      >no library
      Its called a computer.

      I honestly don't know how I'll do the growing though. I'll have a few acres of cleared land on the surface to grow things, but nothing underground. Maybe I could install a separate growing using concrete boxes in an area off the main entrance shaft.

      • 1 month ago
        Anon

        And what happens when the nuke hits and your computer is fried? At least keep a Bible down there.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I saw where it was. Far as frick away from the master.

        Do something like this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Fun times in the shared bathroom

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Mech
          Holy shit how did you get a mech?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bots have a hard time reading images.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >$550k for installation
    my Black person if you cant build that yourself for a quarter of the price you're not really white, learn some skills

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's not something a single person can do. Not fab nor install.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        challenge accepted homosexual

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        grab some shovels and start digging you lazy fat frick

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    yeah you really dont want to bury shipping containers. its better to build dome structures underground.

    Its not exclusively for shtf. Its primarily to live in normally.

    well in that case, I would suggest building a concrete structure above it, and most certainly building the structure out of concrete. It will be more expensive then just building concrete above ground.

    above ground is better in many regards. especially if heating isnt a primary concern. though if heating is a primary concern, then below ground is very effective. but above ground gives you several things...
    (1) access to sunlight, for power and grow rooms
    (2) much better defence capacity, you can engage in active defensive posture.
    (3) removes the possibility of being trapped, or cut off from your air supply ... "smoked out."

    when you consider the possibilities of constructing giant masonry walls with todays excavators, adn if you were to couple that with a strategic location, you could place yourself in an excellent defensive posture. an island in a river would be one. an island in a large lake. or best, a small island on the coast.

    the sea really is your best defence. just ask Richard the lionheart. after many years of laying seiges, he is the one who developed the castle system in England of building castles along the sea, that could be re-supplied during seiges by sea. Or look at malta or crete, and how defendable those islands were during ww2. The sea allows you alot of potential, for food, escape, bringing in supplies, and as a general deterent to determined invader.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like the idea of having my Star Trek DVD collection be the first thing people notice when they visit my rape dung.. bunker

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    *runs in panic into the safe room*
    *steps into the shower, slips and ACKs*
    LOL

    p.s. frick the fricking Black person who programmed PrepHole moronic "anti spam"

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >gets plans over email
    >anyway contractor reports it to the gov
    >gov gets hacked, all leaked, again
    ngmi

    p.s. frick the fricking Black person who programmed PrepHole moronic "anti spam"

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >GRUG NEED CAVE WITH EVERYTHING GRUG NEED TO SURVIVE SO WHEN THE MAGIC THAT MAKE THE WORLD WORK GO AWAY, GRUG STAY SAFE

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how do you ventilate and prevent mildew

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Underground is cool until I find it and have rotting human flesh diarrhea down your air intake

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    man i think i'd want some kind of foyer that enabled some kind of defense for undesired intrusion. i would change this design completely to assume someone wanted to get int that I didn't want.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Needs an entrance like picrel.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        man i think i'd want some kind of foyer that enabled some kind of defense for undesired intrusion. i would change this design completely to assume someone wanted to get int that I didn't want.

        Sorry, I'm moronic. I forgot to include the pic

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >a house, but with 10x the maintenance costs
    pass

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what kind of SHTF scenario could revert humanity to before the second industrial revolution, let alone create a widespread apocalyptic scenario where infrastructure entirely collapses? Hollywood's hollywood, but every apocalypse movie I see, it's like humanity forgets how to make cement, and how to crush up some rusty zinc or iron and mix it with linseed oil. If the government collapses, society's not turning into post-war Europe, it's turning into a bunch of ancaps who throw the ICC building codes in the trash, the worst we'll get is modern China.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      One where children are given ipads, can no longer read and think food comes from grocery stores.
      You don't realize how much a house of cards modern civilization is. The people who built it refused to pass it on to the next generations and will soon be gone.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cons of living in a bunker
    >lack of sunlight will frick you up mentally and cause depression
    >risk of flooding and water damage greatly increases
    >any fire will be much more dangerous due to lack of exits and ventilation
    >no architectural beauty

    Pros:
    >zombie proof
    >avoid detection in event of apocalypse
    >???

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >>no architectural beauty
      https://survivalcondo.com/what-we-build/
      If you need me, I'll be in my penthouse.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP is building it in Oklahoma so there's extra value in having it underground. I know I'd appreciate a underground home around here.
      >Tornado warning goes off
      >Oh no. Anyway.
      >Keeps doing what I was doing in the bunker home

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    amerimutts are funny because they have enough weapons to overthrow 10 governments, bunkers, big trucks, and most are trained to shoot, but they let israelites frick them every day without resistance.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The people who survive won't be subsistence farmers, they'll be Dollar General customers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But then again, say it's the apocalypse, you're the captain of a deep sea oil rig, and the headquarters of Mobil just got nuked. Everyone above you in your chain of command is dead. Like, the reasonable thing to do is take over, say "my rig now, b***h" and become a god among humanity providing this rare resource in a time of social collapse, but the average person is so cucked by modern education that they'd do absolutely nothing and hoard canned food because they have nobody to give them permission to keep shit running.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah if headquarters got nuked the supply boats that keep a rig functioning aren't going to keep coming. You're not going to be able to warlord-style take over industrial infrastructure, especially not 100s of miles offshore

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Knowing this gay b***h of a timeline, if we ever get an apocalypse, it'll be the lamest conceivable one. Is it really too much to ask for 99.99% of the population to die off in an instant and the world to become a global abandoned shopping mall? That feels like the bare minimum for a fun time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I feel as though modernity has done such damage to the white gene pool that we would need not just a collapse, but a cataclysm that knocks us back to the early iron age at least to reset our genetics properly. Honestly I think it has happened before ( Atlantis, Hyperborea) and that we are wayyy overdue for something like that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Modernity has only been a couple generations. The gene pool is fine. White people just need to stop eating the slop and start touching grass again. There's an Adonis hidden under every fatty

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Radon.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of negatives. You'll most likely spend 99.9% of your time above ground in your "fake" home which is now a tiny home. Bunkers are for oh shit, not daily lifestyle.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how does the shit not flow back when it has to go uphill?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It’s common here. Sometimes basement (or your bunker) is deeper than city sewer connection. If you want a bathroom in your basement you need to pump it up to the city sewer connection
      https://www.lowes.com/pd/Superior-Pump-Sewage-0-5-HP-Cast-Iron-Sewage-Sump-Pump/1001002920

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ~~*Cabal*~~ in 2024
    >building a bunker
    ~~*Cabal*~~ in 2035
    >nazis made us dig our own grave
    Why are they like this?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    heh that layout reminds me of the LMOE shelters you can find in CDDA
    it even has the false wall secret room where all the good stuff is stashed away

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You better be rich because maintaining a bunker isn't cheap

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Your roof will never not leak.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    brutalism pilled

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It doubles as something to climb for exercise

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Even if America gets invaded aint nobody going to bother you in Oklahoma bro, you're fine.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd have to have multiple entryways. No way I'm getting trapped in that coffin. Also a Roomba.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >building your own coffin bunker
    Take the Castlepill m8

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >saferoom nowhere near bedroom
    >escape hatch hot in saferoom

    Enjoy being sieged to death.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    that looks cool but it's got too many shelves. where are you supposed to play pool or do shit like that?

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i bought a tiny home and put it on top of a 3 story basement.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1. Why would you put the TV right at the entrance considering you'd want noise to be at minimal - switch it out with your shelves. Put the main bedroom closer to the entrance so that you can atleast stand a chance before they get to your kids. An escape hatch is cool and all but I'd recommend several more.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Why would you put the TV right at the entrance
      To distract Black person looters while you take aim

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    neat rimworld build bro

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do you pump the poop up with some fricking Archimedes' screw device?

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I find the interior layouts of these Atlas bunkers to be really weird

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you want a bunker at least learn how bunkers are actually built.

    Building your bunker in a position that's indefensible and you've got a cement coffin, build somewhere you'll be cut off and you won't even get into your coffin.

    If a jack hammer can punch a hole into it, you're getting burnt alive, unless you're building a fallout shelter. But realistically, the state isn't going to just let you sit in one until that point anyway.

    A bunker is a feature of a fort, not something built in isolation. Building a panic room the size of a house genuinely won't help you.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My advice:
    What you really want is a defensive structure on top, a super structure to act as a perimeter, and a bunker extending radially from the defensive structure.

    So for example a first story of cement prefab, a second story of wood which just functions so you can live on top of the first story, exterior earthworks and hedges in the model of a star fort, and a bunker extending diagonally away from the structure.

    Theory is, you can live within 2 minutes run of your bunker, you can defend the top from the cement first story, and a bunker buster dropped on your roof will actually miss the bunker, or at the very least won't be able to hit both directly.

    If the top catches fire it won't destroy the bottom, if the bottom collapses it won't bury the bunker. After that point when you get out the earthworks and ruins remain fairly defensible, it's not like someone can just pour cement over you exit hatch.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Another thing to consider is offensive tunnelling, like the israelites in new York the structure you defend may not be your own. Your response may well be to break into a larger complex which won't be defended and isn't being attacked. Why?
    A high value structure like a bank might be attacked before you, so you probably wouldn't seek refuge in it. You couldn't live in a bank in order to defend the building.

    You might also do this if your entry point was likely to be occupied. So your way into the bunker might be your house, but your exit plan might involve breaking into the storm water system on the basis your house would be occupied.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These dumb Black folk are missing the point. I think it's a great idea, a place you can go when it gets hairy but also use to get out of the heat and cold. Wish I was there with ya anon, I'd do what I could to help.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >air filtration right by the front door
    If you want to really limit your own options when confronted with someone breeching this is a great idea.

    What is this shit, bunkers by law enforcement?

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The electrical gear is your single point of failure. Batteries should be split up to multiple battery rooms with remote cutoffs. Same with generators and switching. Just bad design. Imagine if there's a fire at night and trying to get out of that bunkroom. Your storeroom should be isolated but here it's the main travel route to the workshop.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Made this a while back as a means on how to classify bunkers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This would make the op bunker a level 3 shelter. It doesn't have enough means of self repair to get to level 5 nor is it diaster specific with specialty equipment for level 4 such as decon. The generators are fine for a timed shelter though, but the shelter is likely useless longterm without diesel and the water in storage.
      >no water chip...lol

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no solar panels
    >small bats
    shit build. How long do you think fuel is going to last?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not even sure the type of long term bunker as seen in Fallout even exist. Pretty much all of them are timed shelters. The government ones are all diesel powered. Would love to see some rich dude making one that could actually hold up for many years. But at some point unless you can make new solar panels and batteries you have to accept it is just a timed shelter.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Only long term designs I'm aware of are temp sealed with live out options kind of like a man made cave that you stay in after the all clear. If something really severe happens you can kiss fuels and everything else goodbye. All you'll have on hand is what you have on hand and that will be subject to wear and tear.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly OP for your purposes as a live-in it's not bad. I'd get some actual survivalist / prepper guys to look over your plans and give you tips but chances are 99% of them will be gays and won't give you answers on what to improve.
    Above-ground will always be cheaper but this method isn't too bad since it serves a purpose as a house and bunker.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you mean a basement? a bunker is expensive... you got a 550k basement?

    what the frick contractor agreed to putting a hidden door in your shower?

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Black person, just get a house with a basement

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    would it make sense to build a pond above your bunker for radiation protection in case of nuclear war?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Floating gamma discharging particles can easily land in the water and sink to the bottom. A pond can't protect you from radiation unless it is somehow covered/filtered or there is enough material between you and the bottom of the pond to do the work.

      I suppose you could filter the pond to draw out charged particles but it would need to be one hell of filter to work right. Seems impractical in the case of nuclear war.

      Now tapping the pond and filtering the water in a gravity fed system to your shelter might be a good idea as a renewable water source. Depends upon the pond source.

      Maybe someone else will have better ideas about utilizing it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Give or take you have about 15 Years to complete it.
        I am going to assume your bunker is in a remote area away from people, the world is so vast the chance of encountering someone is next to null.
        You should immediately check for Radon seriously, cancerous air is genuine dwarfs aren't 4'3 for nothing.
        You should specify in construction that the bunker is domed shape or arched for structural integrity, box shapes are good for hallways. You are not constructing a fallout shelter for 5 years of refugee, it is a home. You will want it to last at minimum 50 Years, you should be looking at Titan complexes for design and information.
        You will want a filter that minimizes the amount of radioactive dust being picked up into the vents. You will regret not doing so when nerve agents are being released.
        Power isn't that big of a issue as long as you aren't taking 4K TV's down it will last you long enough, heating, cooking, lighting, general usage.
        You want entertainment use a computer running on XP or Win 7.
        You should have a priority on storage, antibiotics will be more valuable then food and water.
        A civilian bunker is just a glorified basement at the end of the day. You

        Gamma radiation halves in energy per five inches of water.

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty based. I'd focus on air flow a lot, which show be easy.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    houses gain value so keep that in mind, bunkers are like mobile homes you will likely get less than you put into them.

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >build bunker in Oklahoma to avoid nukes and tornadoes
    >No one will nuke Oklahoma
    >Die in bunker collapse during fracking-induced earthquake

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's a lot of grass to mow. How far from town are you? It will be so fun getting groceries every week. How are the internet options? Are you close enough to the city to be part of their grid or are you going to be crossing your fingers during storms and winter?

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would love to buy one of those old nuke silos and live in that but we don't have any of those here (officially.)

    Best I can do is move to Coober Pedy and dig my house out of the rock like the opal miners do. Constant 23 degrees c apparently.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This shot is from the interior of one of the famous ones for sale not long ago in America. The interior was, even when new, not exactly cozy, but now quite rank. It could be fun project.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you have water, power, and air, everything else is negotiable imo.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Interiors can be fixed easily enough, it's the bones that are important. I'd love to live in a converted luxury missile silo.
        https://www.designboom.com/architecture/survival-condo-former-missile-silo-kansas-07-14-2020/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Missile silos even decommissioned ones are not taken off targeting, you can expect a friendly delivery of 12 Warheads.
          You shouldn't be living near missile silos anyways, anybody who is in the North West of America is dead.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well shit, guess I'm digging my home out of rock like a dwarf then.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you are serious about bunker building know that a very big consideration is keeping water out of it. Both from floods and rain and groundwater in general seeping into it. The floor plan in your picture has space allocated for air filtration, but nowhere is there a pump.

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Hidden safe room
    >Door is hidden in shower
    >Has another normal door on the other side
    Are you only hidden if you go through the hidden door?

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Not living in a mountainous country full of fresh water lakes,rivers ,underground rivers,caves tons of forest with wildlife and plants.

    Sorry burgers, but the average American is dOOmed.When SHTF ,those bunkers will do nothing for you.

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do you ever wonder why it is so rare for people to live under ground considering how much underground spaces are available?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sshhh don't help him.

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I already own the land
    lol no you dont gtfo here larper

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think you realise how often you'll have to clean it - as in thoroughly. The poor airflow, humidity from you living there, and the lack of sunlight means mold will be a big problem.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You will never pull it off unnoticed. You'd need the fake building there for electrical and sewage hook up first, then to excavate everything from within that building. Regular excavation would be extremely visible.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Challenge accepted

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why build a secret room in your bunker? Aren't you much better off building an antechamber with gunholes and other defensive mechanisms? before people can just barge into your living room?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I thought of that. Let me show you my secret living room.

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