British Army overturns 100 year beard ban

>The King, who is Commander in Chief, signed off on the decision on Thursday to allow both officers and soldiers to wear beards.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/28/soldiers-beards-allowed-100-year-ban-overturned/

Thoughts?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Beardlets need not apply

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >full beards allowed
      >chinstraps and mutton chops are not
      how utterly arbitrary. they specifically exclude the captain price look, and you know a lot of bongs would want to grow that for the memes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because non-Whites don't wear beards like that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >straps and go*tees banned
      so fricking based. those gay styles shouldn't be legal.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        True, but banning mutton chops is stupid. In fact, mutton chops and a (unconnected) mustache is optimal for a modern military, since it's the maximum amount of facial hair that can be worn without interfering with the seal of an SCBA mask.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's so over

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought I told you to shave off those sideburns

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mutton chops, the iconic British facial hair, not allowed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's wrong with the left one of the three forbidden types? Lemmy Kilmister beard, to me that is the best and most martial looking style.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This was done not as a concession to special forces facial hair or to increase masculinity, but as a feeble appeal to get more Muslims to join.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/H7akWYo.jpg

      Beardlets need not apply

      Thing is, they only allow beards as a full set. The traditional muslim beard as recommended by Mohammad has the moustache shaved off. They're just trying to keep up with the fashion.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ?
      Religious exemptions already exist

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get more Muslims to join
      No point. Very few of them would want to, no matter what concessions you make.
      Now if they brought back Sikh regiments you'd have positions filled overnight.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sikhs
        Yeah, not after the Brits used the Sepoys as cannon fodder against the Japs in Malaya.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've never met a Sikh who was upset about it, or who disliked the British in general. Muslims, on the other hand, frequently hold grudges about everything from the end of Mughal rule to the Sykes-Picot Agreement.

          I remember seeing a survey from about 1910 or so where they asked a thousand men in London why they kept a mustache and something like 25% responded with "I used to be in the Army". By comparison, less than 1% responded "because my wife likes it". I think the largest response was that it helped with what we today would call air pollution.

          I've never seen that survey, but the numbers sound plausible. AFAIK they only changed the regulations in 1914, because long facial hair can slow you down when putting on a gas mask.

          Homogeneity is anti-semitic, anon.

          They already have a Gurkha brigade to recruit men from Nepal. If they went back to having Sikh and maybe even Hindu regiments like the old days the recruitment problems would be over.

          reeks of a desperate attempt to phase in the shitskin muslims and replace the whites of the standing army

          If that's the plan they'll be disappointed with the results.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Homogeneity is anti-semitic, anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They already have religious exemptions and most muslims do not care about it and ots haram to join

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you must have a moustache
    >hang on, no, you must have a beard
    >nevermind, actually you can only have a moustache
    >you must be clean shaven
    >OK, you can have a moustache, but not a beard
    >here are the new regulations guaranteed to make your moustache look like complete trash
    >we have decided to allow beards again
    Military life, everyone.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the last time the british army wore beards was the Crimean war

    are they trying to tell us something here?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Crimean war
      Not only were beards allowed, but moustaches were compulsory back then. IIRC the minimum length increased with rank, hence the giant whiskers you see on British generals of the period.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember seeing a survey from about 1910 or so where they asked a thousand men in London why they kept a mustache and something like 25% responded with "I used to be in the Army". By comparison, less than 1% responded "because my wife likes it". I think the largest response was that it helped with what we today would call air pollution.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >soldiers to wear beards.
    Amateur hour.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Laughs in Royal Navy

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong sort of grooming standard

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ba-dum-dum-chiss

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    rugged good looks is a weapon after all

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it true that in the Navy at least, if you want to grow a beard, you can apply for beard-growing leave? A friend of mine who used to be in the Fleet Air Arm claims that because you can't be halfway between clean-shaven and bearded, they will give you paid time off to go and grow a beard before you come back with the beard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      never heard that but i know you need to get permission to grow a beard and you have a set amount of time to grow it, then a PO will inspect it and if it's not up to scratch in the time frame you have to shave it off.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      never heard that but i know you need to get permission to grow a beard and you have a set amount of time to grow it, then a PO will inspect it and if it's not up to scratch in the time frame you have to shave it off.

      You have two weeks to grow a full set and then if it looks like shit you'll be told to shave it off.
      What matelots do is apply for a beard chit
      13 days before taking leave.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    False flagging varnik is still spamming brit related threads? Sorry your empire was lost, zigger.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reeks of a desperate attempt to phase in the shitskin muslims and replace the whites of the standing army

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there was already an exemption for muslims and sikhs so it's nothing to do with that.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It just goes to show how far things have fallen. Are they not thinking about CBRN training anymore? What about being authoritarian bastards on purpose to keep a barracks under some semblance of actual control? I mean I had awful razor rash the whole time and wanted nothing more than to stop shaving, when I left I immediately grew a full beard and have never shaved it in 8+ years, but that's not the point. The simplest thing that even civillians should understand about the army is that it's awful and not a hugbox, but it seems even the army has forgotten that it should/needs to be like that to function.

    I hope that JNCOs/the platoon serjeant will effectively ban this at the bottom inna block level so that officers and WOs don't have the problem of finding a way to do it at a higher level and having to skirt around official policy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder about the cultural ramifications. It had long been that moustaches were army, and beards were navy in the UK. These kind of differences help build culture in a service, which increases their pride. It's like how USMC and the army have so many differences that they are each proud to be different from one another. Call a marine a soldier and you'll get a lot of whining about how they're a marine, not a soldier, which is kinda gay, but also a nice sign of the pride they have.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's like how USMC and the army have so many differences that they are each proud to be different from one another. Call a marine a soldier and you'll get a lot of whining about how they're a marine, not a soldier, which is kinda gay, but also a nice sign of the pride they have.
        It's incredibly gay and the marines are delusional narcissists.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      new recruits still have to be clean shaven during initial training.
      same in the navy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For CBRN training and if you are deployed to an expected CBRN enviroment, you still have to shave it off. But CBRN is not common so you can have facila hair most of the time

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That the joint chiefs of staff (or whatever the UK has) think the odds of British forces facing gas attacks is so astronomically low that there's no reason not to anymore.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    remember when the British government tried to bring back conscription about a year ago

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I remember. Another of Hacker's ridiculous reforms.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cool, your sons get conscripted first

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was all about wanting beards in the Marines when I was in. But when I got out and seen how many people rocking pube face because they couldn't admit not having the genes for it. I retroactively decided it was for the best. We have image problems as is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. 75% of the army is 18-25 year olds who can't do any better than pubeface and neckbeard.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seems reasonable to allow beards as a mark of rank, say E-5 or E-6 and above. Makes it seem earned, and NCOs are more likely to make an effort not to have their beard look like shit. Plus generally they will be a little older and have thicker facial hair.
        t. Used to have a Hitlerstache because I was sick of NCOs telling me my mustache was too wide

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tfw joing at 30

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Thoughts?
    gas masks work best when clean shaven

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