Britain's new nuke Astraea

>The Replacement Warhead Programme has been designated the A21/Mk7 (also known as Astraea). It is being delivered in parallel with the US W93/Mk7 warhead and each nation is developing a sovereign design. This will be the first UK warhead developed in an era where we no longer test our weapons underground, upholding our voluntary moratorium on nuclear weapon test explosions.
To be validated instead with supercomputer sims and orion laser experiments.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-developing-new-sovereign-nuclear-warhead/
https://breakingdefense.com/2024/03/united-kingdom-reveals-sovereign-nuclear-warhead-name-astraea/

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Subcritical tests when?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good to see the brits mentioned EPURE in the article.
      >https://www-teutates.cea.fr/uk/joint-facility-epure.html
      A bit sad things are taking this long since the TNA and TNO warheads have been in service in France since 2009 and 2016 respectively, but this stuff isn't exactly easy.

      >Subcritical tests when?
      They have already been carried out without even having taken place. Guess how.

      i'm surprised they have any capable scientists, considering the level of brain drain in this country

      >It is being delivered in parallel with the US
      >a sovereign design

      Right...

      Make no mistake, they have collaborated with the USA and France on the technologies to achieve this, but the design will indeed be sovereign.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i'm surprised they have any capable scientists, considering the level of brain drain in this country

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are plenty of smart, educated people in this country still. It's just that they're mostly 2nd and 3rd gen Indian and Pakistani immigrants.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There are plenty of smart, educated people in this country still.
        in finance. most the people i know who earned degrees have moved abroad, leaving behind a sea of mongs.

        >UK
        >brain drain
        uwotm8?
        do you think they'd go to russia or something?

        denmark, australia, the US, france, canada...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There are plenty of smart, educated people in this country still. It's just that they're mostly 2nd and 3rd gen Indian and Pakistani immigrants.

        https://vocaroo.com/15xk7qxihIiJ

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah no

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The "people" replying to you is one dude with a vpn.

        >There are plenty of smart, educated people in this country still.
        in finance. most the people i know who earned degrees have moved abroad, leaving behind a sea of mongs.

        [...]
        denmark, australia, the US, france, canada...

        Yeah no. London in particular is a hub on brain drain towards itself, and the hosue prices keep out the morons, not away, it's just the rest of the country suffers.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this incoherent, barely literate post has convinced me that britain is actually full of smart people.

          You realise the UK leads the world in many areas of research, especially in advanced physics, fusion etc.

          absolutely world-beating.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like plumbers, you mean ?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >UK
      >brain drain
      uwotm8?
      do you think they'd go to russia or something?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >average daily mail browser

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Much obliged sire, I am Willyston Churchshire from Buckingham oblast and have been right and proper demoralizing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You realise the UK leads the world in many areas of research, especially in advanced physics, fusion etc.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It is being delivered in parallel with the US
    >a sovereign design

    Right...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These can be both true. Parallel does not mean the same design.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just like the UKs sub reactors, sure we gave the UK the S9G reactor blueprints (potentially even a full reactor module was given) and sure, the PWR3 reactor is basically just an S9G manufactured in the UK, but it's TOTALLY a sovereign design. Just trust me.

      The UK does this with all their nuke shit. They can't admit they're basically taking US navy scraps instead of being the naval powerhouse of yore their population still expects.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly what’s the problem? Wouldn’t it be a waste of effort to duplicate work between allies

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the public facing posture that irks me. Royal navy acts like they're doing it all themselves, at most they'll mention US cooperation but for the domestic audience they pretend it's good old fashioned British industry that's the driving force.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly what’s the problem? Wouldn’t it be a waste of effort to duplicate work between allies

            And just to be clear, I'm a British citizen, I just think it's nationalistic BS to pretend its more British than it is.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm an escaped penal colony resident myself, it's funny how much better I think 'we developed this with our allies and shared stuff' would go over today than say, five years ago.
              Hell it's basically the entire point of the AUKUS sub deal.
              Funny how a country suddenly declaring its intent to be an existential threat that can only be held back by force of arms causes everyone to rethink their stances on military alliances.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do they? Mostly I'd say it is. Working from the work of others doesn't make it foreign at all when or if all of it is designed or manufactured in house.
            You have no idea what exactly was handed over or how influencial the work is in influencing the design, you are just a Black person with an axe to grind making up shit like you always do because the USDOE would never tell you anyway you massive cuckold.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Working from the work of others doesn't make it foreign at all when or if all of it is designed or manufactured in house.
              Found the chink.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why do bongs have to be cringe like that? Is that just coping with the fact that frogs actually are sovereign or something?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like the name, too many vowels.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Astraea
    classical bros we're so back

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What fricking Doctor Who set is that geezer trying to make a nuke in, wot?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i was thinking austin powers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's not making anything, it's a laser facility for simulating the heat and pressures inside a nuclear detonation. A bunch of lasers fire at a target from different angles, squeezing it until fusion occurs.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BRITAIN MENTIONED
    THIRDIES, ASSEMBLE!!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rent free

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why do we still have to pretend like the us and uk don't use the same designs?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      Just like the UKs sub reactors, sure we gave the UK the S9G reactor blueprints (potentially even a full reactor module was given) and sure, the PWR3 reactor is basically just an S9G manufactured in the UK, but it's TOTALLY a sovereign design. Just trust me.

      The UK does this with all their nuke shit. They can't admit they're basically taking US navy scraps instead of being the naval powerhouse of yore their population still expects.

      Honestly what’s the problem? Wouldn’t it be a waste of effort to duplicate work between allies

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I get why they do it for national and budgetary reasons, but it's just dumb at the end of the day. Anyone that's done any reading on the subject over the decades can tell you that there's almost no difference between the two nation's nuclear designs. The US and UK openly share even the most sensitive of designs with each other, US citizens work in the UK at R&D facilities and UK citizens work in the US. It's a great example of just how deep the alliance between the two countries is and each time it's some petty nonsense that comes off as "OC donut steel"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See [...] [...]

      Meant

      It's the public facing posture that irks me. Royal navy acts like they're doing it all themselves, at most they'll mention US cooperation but for the domestic audience they pretend it's good old fashioned British industry that's the driving force.

      not

      Honestly what’s the problem? Wouldn’t it be a waste of effort to duplicate work between allies

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, basically, Britain has become yet another one of those face-saving cultures kek

    In which case it's kind of fitting that browns are taking over the place really.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RIP

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >So, basically, Britain has become yet another one of those face-saving cultures kek
      How'd you get that take?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Instead of just saying they're building an American warhead design domestically, they have to save face by claiming it's ACTUALLY a British design that is loosely based (directly copied) from the American one.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Instead of just saying they're building an American warhead design domestically
          Are they?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, they're just doing it in the UK and potentially doing some local parts manufacturing and calling it a domestic warhead.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Yes, they're just doing it in the UK and potentially doing some local parts manufacturing and calling it a domestic warhead.
              This is a really weird and wholly unsubstantiated statement to make.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so we have a comprehensive, indigenous nuclear weapons programme when everything else (e.g., HS2) is a hilarious frickup?

                >we ourselves

                is this the bit where you accuse anyone critical of the UK of being foreign?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so we have a comprehensive, indigenous nuclear weapons programme when everything else (e.g., HS2) is a hilarious frickup?
                I cant help but notice you're trying to reason your way to evidence instead of simply providing evidence to support a prior claim that was presented as fact.

                >is this the bit where you accuse anyone critical of the UK of being foreign?
                I am quite obviously accusing you of being a certain someone who suffers from a peculiar obsession with the UK.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well they already said the warhead is being developed "in parallel" with the US warhead, and the UK has also confirmed they'll be using a US re-entry body, and we know the missiles themselves are a US design too.

                And the currently used "Holbrook" warhead is said by experts to be based on the W76-1 US warhead, so it would stand to reason the Holbrook replacement Astraea, is based on the W93.

                It was also announced that after the US W76-1 warhead got upgrades, the UK Holbrook warheads ALSO got those upgrades not long after.

                Basically anyone who reads into this shit at ALL can see the UK is basically just manufacturing components and assembling the warheads domestically and MAYBE tweaking one or two things in the design to make sure it's not a 100% direct copy of the American design, but close enough that upgrades to the american warhead can be applied to the UK warheads too.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                More interpretation (subjective) of a very simple sentence.
                >It is being delivered in parallel with the US W93/Mk7 warhead and each nation is developing a sovereign design.
                Unless you can present evidence that demonstrates that a "sovereign design" is in fact, not sovereign, kindly present such.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And here we go right back to

                So, basically, Britain has become yet another one of those face-saving cultures kek

                In which case it's kind of fitting that browns are taking over the place really.

                You have to save face by claiming it's a British design when everyone fricking EVERYONE knows it isn't. The only ones fooled into thinking it's a British design are the morons who WANT to be fooled. I say this as a brit, it's embarrassing and I wish they would just admit it's largely a US design with a few minor modifications.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I get the feeling you have no evidence to support the claims you're making. Perchance your (subjective) assertion is the result of internal bias?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Adm. Charles Richard, commander of U.S. Strategic Command, and Alan Shaffer, the Pentagon’s deputy undersecretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment, separately made statements that Britain is pursuing development of its own version of the W93 warhead
                It's a US warhead with minor modifications, get over it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's a US warhead with minor modifications
                In your opinion.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >willful self-suspension of disbelief
                Fricks sake. Is this how lower-midwits go through life?
                You don't have to be bright. You don't have to be autistic enough to read the implications or socially adept enough to read between the liens. You don't even have to be educated. All you need is a slight give-a-damn about the truth and a little common sense.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Adm. Charles Richard, commander of U.S. Strategic Command, and Alan Shaffer, the Pentagon’s deputy undersecretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment, separately made statements that Britain is pursuing development of its own version of the W93 warhead
                It's a US warhead with minor modifications, get over it.

                They wouldn't need a big fricking laser facility and bunch of high performance supercomputers to make it if they were just "copying" a U.S. design.

                You don't have to be a veteran poster on a Norwegian herring worrying forum like your esteemed selves to be able to reason that there's more to these things than your standard JDAM that could be "produced under license"

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lol, they contribute to the research and design effort with the US, I won't deny that, but it's largely a US warhead and the UK just does a few minor modifications + manufacturing of components.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so we have a comprehensive, indigenous nuclear weapons programme when everything else (e.g., HS2) is a hilarious frickup?
                I cant help but notice you're trying to reason your way to evidence instead of simply providing evidence to support a prior claim that was presented as fact.

                >is this the bit where you accuse anyone critical of the UK of being foreign?
                I am quite obviously accusing you of being a certain someone who suffers from a peculiar obsession with the UK.

                Whenever people try to "logically" parse easily inferred information, it means they're smart enough to know they're wrong, but so personally committed they need to make themselves look like pedantic, sophomoric children to defend it.
                This shit generally serves to make observers less likely to think you're right and more likely to see you as grasping at straws.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not him, but it's pretty evident by how obnoxious britbong shills are on /k/ in general
        everytime the brits frick shit up, the bong internet defense force is in full swing to derail threads about it
        they just can't take the banter and move anymore, they have to act like 3rd worlders and die on every single hill they find

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >BRAAAAPPPPPPP

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why does this look right out of an austin powers set

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do they test these designs then?
    Just trust the simulations?
    I understand they're a theoretical deterrent and shouldn't need to work in practice but it's a better deterrent if people widely believe it works because of testing.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The OP image looks like it would fit just fine in a James Bond movie 50 years ago

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like Dr No's lair

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >thread about new warhead
    >instant ocean of bonghate

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we ourselves also hate this shithole. if anything, most foreigners underestimate the shittiness of the yewkay.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we ourselves

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >To be validated instead with supercomputer sims and orion laser experiments.
    Boring, cant we just blow the frick out of an island or something again for the craic? I'm sure theres one kicking about somewhere that no-one would miss.
    Maybe Rockall, its just a big ass rock 250 miles into the Atlantic Ocean. No-one would even miss it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      iirc there's actually a species unique to this rock. A bug or something.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well its fricked anyway then, unless it lives off bird-shit.

        >No-one would even miss it.
        There is clearly a man on that rock. I think he is attached to it, both physically and metaphorically.

        Its ok anon, he came home again. I think that was some fella doing one of those "how long can I survive alone on this god-forsaken shit covered rock in the middle of the sea" things.

        Other people use the rock from time to time too. Maybe this pic would change your mind?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Discovery of new species
          In December 2013 surveys by Marine Scotland discovered four new species of animal in the sea around Rockall. These are believed to live in an area where hydrocarbons are released from the sea bed, known as a cold seep. The discovery has raised the issue of restricting some forms of fishery to protect the sea bed.[80] The species are:

          Volutopsius scotiae Frussen, McKay & Drewery, 2013 – a sea snail about 10 cm (4 in) long
          Thyasira scotiana Zelaya, 2009 – a clam
          Isorropodon mackayi – a clam in the order Veneroida
          Antonbruunia sociabilis sp. – a marine worm in the order Phyllodocida

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Greenpeace
          we should nuke him on principle

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If we wait long enough the French will do it for us (again).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            make sure some fishing boats get caught in the blast

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >greenpeace moron brings his shit to a rock without humans on it to protest humans being on rocks that didn't used to have humans on them
          I don't think they deserved to be blown up or taken to russian prisons or tortured but frick me they're stupid

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think he was moaning that they might drill for oil near it, and it was going to ruin this lovely picturesque rock environment in the middle of the damn ocean that no-one ever sees or goes near because its just a shipping hazard.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well, quite! Imagine how awful it would be for those birds if they had an oil platform as well as a rock to roost on.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You might be thinking of the Lord Howe Island stick insect, which went extinct on the island it is named after and then was rediscovered by a rock climber halfway up the side of Ball's Pyramid, pic related.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah that's the one. tx

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No-one would even miss it.
      There is clearly a man on that rock. I think he is attached to it, both physically and metaphorically.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If Trump comes back maybe he'll start testing nukes for real again, then the bongs can ask nicely and nuke Nevada another few hundred times.

      It would certainly own the libs, and that seems their main motivation

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what is that interesting structure he is in

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Atomic Weapons Establishment (AWE) Orion laser target chamber. It's a huge neodymium laser useful for measuring how based a bomb will be.
      https://www.awe.co.uk/2024/01/academic-access-to-orion
      https://optics.org/news/3/9/35

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have more pics on another machine. Will post when I'm on it.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hello sir, why is that person white? Britain is a very diverse place, not a white ethnostate. We should more minorities designing nukes.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guys the Simpsons did this joke about 40 years ago. Who fricking gives a shit.

    >AW apache
    >Harriers
    >The thirteen colonies
    >God

    Countries buy, steal and borrow shit all the time, make modifications and then pretend it’s something entirely new.

    Britain and the US are updating thier deterrents and the frogs will probably soon follow. Let’s all join in laughing at Herr Monke quivering in his own shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the frogs will probably soon follow
      Their current SLBM is pretty new already, Tête nucléaire océanique was deployed starting in 2016.

      Their air-launched cruise missile warhead is also pretty new in the grand scheme of things, the Tête nucléaire aéroportée was first deployed in 2010.

      France will probably look into new warheads in the mid to late 2030s for deployment in the 2040/50 timeframe on FCAS and maybe as a mid-life warhead upgrade for the M51 on their new SSBNs expected in the 2030s and 40s.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tête nucléaire

        sounds like something you can buy from a velvet mouthed giton in a paris metro bathroom

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based.

        I kinda like the idea - intentional or not - that one nato power has updated shit while the others do testing, then they switch.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, France is a kinda shit conventional ally, but they have done alright when it comes to keeping up with their nuclear deterrence. They let the land arm of their Nuclear triad fall away, but they've kept up with the air and sea arms to the point they're in some ways more capable than US systems.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The weird nearly-universalized American cultural and social distaste for French people does their relatively unique military status a disservice, unfortunately. They lowkey pretty based, and have remained so since the 60's. Much more of a stomach for colonial wars, very little sympathy for blacks and browns. It has something to do with their internal polarization- the French left is all literally gay communists and effete wannabe 19th century romanticist pedophiles, while the French right is a mix of skinheads and nouveau-Napoleon types. The latter makes a good base for their military institutions.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >nearly-universalized
            Emphasis on the nearly. The US military saw the French as a rich mentor figure up through the world wars and then the situation reversed with the French learning from American military procurement.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Britain and the US are updating thier deterrents and the frogs will probably soon follow. Frogs have not waited upon the US and UK to modernize their nuclear forces.
      Firstly, the W97 and Mk7 technology is already old news for frogs since the main characteristic of these warheads is they're designed without needing real nuclear tests thanks to simulation, which has been achieved by France with the introduction of the TNA in 2009 for the ASMP-A missile and TNO in 2016 for the M51 missile.
      Secondly the hypersonic cruise missile ASN4G program supposed to replace the ASMPA is ongoing with 2035 as an introduction date. In the same time the VMAX HGV program has achieved full success during its first test in june 2023 and will now help create a derivative that will be carried by a future variant of the M51, probably the M51.4.
      Both these vectors will be nuclear only.
      It must be noted France had been the pionner of HGVs with the VERAS program in 1965, but had abandoned this idea since the high tech materials needed simply did not exist back then.
      Anyway, this means in about 10 to 15 years, France will field both hypersonic gliders carrying nukes for its SLBM fleet to go with its next class of SSBN, the SNLE3G, and a hypersonic cruise missile carrying a nuke for its air force, firstly for the Rafale, then for an eventual future fighter. With emphasis put on economic sustainability, performance, and reliability.

      Yeah, France is a kinda shit conventional ally, but they have done alright when it comes to keeping up with their nuclear deterrence. They let the land arm of their Nuclear triad fall away, but they've kept up with the air and sea arms to the point they're in some ways more capable than US systems.

      The US can mobilize much more ressources and could probably already field such capabilities. They just don't need it as of now.
      As a matter of a fact, the NIF, National Ignition Facility, which is being used for fusion experiments, has been built alongside its French counterpart the LMJ, Laser Megajoule, but the NIF was launched and achieved results in fusion much sooner than the LMJ. Yet curiously the W97 is going to be a bit late.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >W97
        W87-1 you mean? Or W93?

        W93 and W87-1 are the two current nukes the US is working on, there is no W97.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes sorry I meant W93 I mixed things up.
          W87-1 and a few other warheads being, to my understanding, re qualified using techniques linked to simulation, that do not require additional nuclear testing yet still guarantee they'll work when needed.
          It's kinda crazy to think if the USA France and UK wanted to design let's say a Tsar Bomba analogue, they could do so in a few weeks with only supercomputers and maybe a few Inertial confinement fusion experiments, and end up with an optimized design, miniaturized, fully reliable and durable.
          Knowing this I really don't get how Russians and their friends think they can scare the west with the threat of nukes.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's an old budget document, the FY25 documents were released earlier this month.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/8O0U5WW.png

              [...]

              Thx anon. It shows a strong acceleration of the W93 program.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/VYznug9.png

            That's an old budget document, the FY25 documents were released earlier this month.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Britain needs a nuclear triad. Put some warheads on air cruise missiles at least, literally every other P5 state has multiple attack options.
    Subs are obviously the strongest deterrent, but you need to have other attack options for The Prime Minister/ King to have.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      US would nuke anyone who nukes the UK, so what's the point? They've got a handful of SSBNs for a direct FRICK YOU to whoever struck them first, and then the US cleans up the rest.

      The UK having their own air-launched cruise missile nukes or gravity bomb nukes, or land based ballistic missile nukes wouldn't really change that, if anything it would just be an even more expensive boondoggle that would detract from conventional readiness. The UK is not rich enough for a nuclear triad, SSBNs are the most survivable in the event of an attack and can near assuredly strike back in force even after the UK is turned to glass.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      US would nuke anyone who nukes the UK, so what's the point? They've got a handful of SSBNs for a direct FRICK YOU to whoever struck them first, and then the US cleans up the rest.

      The UK having their own air-launched cruise missile nukes or gravity bomb nukes, or land based ballistic missile nukes wouldn't really change that, if anything it would just be an even more expensive boondoggle that would detract from conventional readiness. The UK is not rich enough for a nuclear triad, SSBNs are the most survivable in the event of an attack and can near assuredly strike back in force even after the UK is turned to glass.

      It's just kinda embarrassing that nations like India, North-East India, Best Korea, Western Korea and North by North-East Korea have more options than them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        in nearly all cases those countries don't, if you had the option to work with a very powerful ally why wouldn't you?
        I don't doubt that if for some reason the UK wanted to create an entirely new and genuinely self owned nuclear programme they could they have both the money and the capability or at the very least the ability to create the capability, but at that point you are spending a lot more money for not that much gain.
        In terms of technological prowess when it comes to tech companies (and yes I know not all tech companies are millitary or millitary adjacent) the UK tends to rank anywhere from 2nd to 3rd or 4th in most important catagories without even taking in to account anything per capita, the UK has no shortage of tech and science.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but you need to have other attack options for The Prime Minister/ King to have.
      The more delivery vectors you have the less options you have, in fact, because using a nuclear weapon is a binary choice
      To never have the confusion or worry that launching a missile from the air, surface combatant, or ground might have a nuclear warhead gives you the option to use those weapons without forewarning or the risk of escalation

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In Russian, Chinese, French, and American doctrine, they differentiate nuclear options. You have air-launched nuclear cruise missiles because they allow for flexibility in a response, which many would argue is better than a total nuclear response. The US spends billions on B2s and B21s, just so they can give the President the choice to nuke an individual site. The French have a warning nuke as well.
        I think the issue is the British political structure. The Prime Minister is not a rigid office like the other P5, Liz Truss’s Letter of Last Resort only lasted 45 days. It seems the political and military elite do not want the Prime Minister to be given such power, especially since many lack a mandate.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You seem to have ignored the bit where I said that flexible nuclear response doesn't exist and continued to write complete nonsense backed up by none of the history of brinkmanship
          >It seems the political and military elite do not want the Prime Minister to be given such power
          you forgot to write the bit where you provided any evidence for this claim

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But any claim made without evidence can be dismissed without an argument, anon. It's only your opinion that flexible nuclear responses don't exist, and it doesn't seem very well justified seeing as all other nuclear powers are interested in spending billions of dollars maintaining a flexible nuclear arsenal.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >But any claim made without evidence can be dismissed without an argument, anon
              Not the anon you're arguing with. Just going to point out that you are using a catchphrase to dismiss a sunrise problem out of hand, which is not inferentially sound in this situation.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wipes tear

      Goodnight, sweet prince.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine those things bombing the Iraqis in Desert Storm.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Please anon, I’m hard enough as it is without picturing the RAF using them to vaporize Haji.

          I guess the failure of the TSR gave birth to the Tornado, which was put to good use bombing mosques for several decades, so it’s not all bad.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This raises an interesting question

    The power of nuclear warheads has essentially plateaued then ?

    Since everyone has banned themselves from doing any further nuclear testing , everyone is using the same strength nukes we have been using since the 80's

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nuke yield reached the maximum useful size long, long ago, sometime in the 50s or 60s
      unless we start building hive cities that reach kilometres into the sky there is no reason to make a bigger nuke instead of more small ones because destroying the air above a city does absolutely frick all

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > NNSA is coordinating with the Department of Defense on additional weapon programs that are projected to further increase workload demands on the Kansas City site. Specifically, the two agencies are working to define the appropriate ballistic missile warheads to address threats anticipated in 2030 and beyond. These warheads currently include a Future Strategic Land-Based Warhead, a Future Strategic Sea-Based Warhead, a Future Air-Delivered Warhead, and a Submarine-Launched Warhead (as a replacement for the W76-1 and W76-2) needed in the 2040s. Based on NNSA documentation, these future weapon programs will be in development and production after NNSA completes its work on its five current weapon programs.
    Neat, looks like the US is already planning for the development of their NEXT warheads.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like nuclear warhead designs are back on the menu boys.

      We had a short period between ~1990-2010 where it seemed like we wouldn't bother with anything other than minor SLEP upgrades to keep existing warheads operational. Seems like 2014 with Crimea is the kickoff point where the US decided to restart warhead development by getting started with legacy designs (W87-1 and W93) that were mostly developed but never finished. And now we know they are already planning successor warheads for the 2040s.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2012 stuff
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7e403440f0b62305b81c77/Presentation_on_Plasma_Physics_at_AWE.pdf

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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are 6 TIMs on the ORION target chamber. Pray I do not TIM them further...

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bonus: haha w i d e

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen better tin bashing by a drunk Mexican with 7 fingers.
    Whatever, good luck summoning Satan or whatever.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      k

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >According to myth, Astraea will one day come back to Earth, bringing with her the return of the utopian Golden Age of which she was the ambassador.
    So this is them saying nuking Moscow and Beijing will fix most of the world's problems and usher in a new golden age? The tradition of British naming is continuing to go hard as frick.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick me this thread is wild - I mean, I know Brits = bad because /k/ but what happened to the Russians this time? Or just not over losing the Great Game lel

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well it started off with with a bunch of Americans and Russian bots pretending to be British getting upset about the whole ‘sovereignty’ thing…

      >it’s my nuke
      >no it’s MY NUKE
      >no it’s MY nuke
      >NO ITS my nuke

      They sperged out for a little bit, arguing over missile development projects that they looked up on Wikipedia and eventually the rest of us got bored, and so started talking about the French.

      Turns out the Frogs’ deterrent program is pretty based, we learned that you don’t need to actually detonate nukes anymore to see if they work - you just shoot lasers at them, NATO is set to utterly dominate the planet and we can all look forward living in the UNSC pretty soon.

      Monke is old news.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Turns out the Frogs’ deterrent program is pretty based, we learned that you don’t need to actually detonate nukes anymore to see if they work - you just shoot lasers at them, NATO is set to utterly dominate the planet and we can all look forward living in the UNSC pretty soon.
        Rectification anon.
        You shoot lasers at tiny tiny tiny specks of nuclear material to do fusion experiments, like miniature stars being born and dying in the span of a few nanoseconds.
        And then you shoot not lasers but X-rays at actual nukes to check if their internal structure which you have previously modeled to the atom using supercomputers, will still go boom when needed.
        Then you can either refurbish these nukes with certainty regarding the outcome and without needing to reforge them which is time consuming, expensive, and dangerous. You can alter their detonation chains without fear of causing issues. Or you can forge new warhead designs without needing to bring them to sub-criticality or real testing to be sure they'll go boom while generating the desired yields, and not go squib or castle bravo on you, which is very useful especially with variable yield warheads.
        Additionally, vatniks, chinks, and brownoids, can't at this technology, which upsets them immensely against the white man, and the fookin frogs were the first to deploy nooks designed using these tests, which upsets angloburgers and motivate them to accelerate on this topic, as always in these sorts of cases.
        What's not to like?
        No, for real, if you were looking at a way to accelerate, say, Mars landing programs, just tell the Americans the FRICKING FRENCH FROGS are on it too thanks to some made-up breakthrough, I guarantee you'd see an American raising the star spangled banner on mount Olympus before 2030. Soviets? USA sleeps. China? USA grumbles a bit and sleeps again. France? USA gets up grab its AR15 and kills the whole neighborhood yelling "FROGS IN THE WIRE FROGS IN THE WIRE". I'm not making this up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Keep the frogs down, the krauts in, and uhhh

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Brits = bad because /k/
      It's one guy. He was temporarily unable to shartpost for like 12 to 24 hours and the whole board resumed being not shit.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This looks like the set from a low-budget sci-fi show

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bongs are looking for trouble.
    They'll surely claim its to help america but in reality it will deter america and lower america's options against britain. That weakens america. There is nothing one hates more than having the military option taken away. The whole global non proliferation thing exists to protect the military option for when countries misbehave.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Astraea
    >Goddess of justice, innocence, and accuracy
    Yuck.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Propose alternatives

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Adikia. Serves this dodshit place better.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Propose alternatives

        Frick, madness made me blind.

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