Breaking: Poland completely abandoning HIMARS for K239

https://frontierindia.com/poland-cuts-us-himars-orders-for-south-korean-k239-chunmoo-rocket-launchers/
>The Polish Ministry of Defense (MON) recently revealed an ambitious proposal to acquire 500 M142 HIMARS (High Mobility Artillery Rocket System) rocket launchers from the United States. However, plans have altered. Poland will acquire “just” 200 HIMARS missile launchers but 300 K239 Chunmoo rocket launchers from South Korea.

>The stated justification for the acquisition of South Korean rocket launchers is the inability of American industry to provide 500 HIMARS timely. Other plausible explanations include the Koreans’ desire to share expertise and knowledge, the relocation of manufacturing to Poland, and the Koreans’ willingness to use Polish technologies and components. In any event, Americans lack such adaptability and responsiveness.

>Try comparing the first acquisition of Polish HIMARS missile launchers. Already in 2018, Poland spent $414 million to acquire one detachment of HIMARS rocket launchers (36 rocket launchers) and two training rocket launchers. These three batteries will be supplied on the American FMTV (Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles) chassis and equipped with the American fire control system (SP) AFATDS (Advanced Field Artillery Tactical Data System). The first portion will be delivered by the end of 2023. The purchase is nonetheless portrayed as a Polish homage to the United States.

>According to Polish Armaments Agency spokesperson Krzysztof Platek, Poland will get K239 Chunmoo superstructures placed on Polish Jelcz 88 trucks and the Polish Topaz SP (combat). Seoul will offer cruise missiles with ranges between 70 and 290 kilometres and a technology transfer. In Poland, the first rocket launchers will arrive in 2023! Thus, simultaneously with the American HIMARS ordered five years ago.

Stay strong, himarsisters...

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the 500 HIMARS was never a realistic plan in any way lol.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon but they are buying 500 rocket launchers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was so confused about this before. 500 HIMARS launchers?? When Ukraine is holding back Russia with just 20.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do you think Russia Military won't change it's ways in 15-20 years after making a mockery of itself?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They clearly failed to do it the last 2 times why would the 3rd be any different

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          kek the absolute state of this post

          russia has been a fucking mockery for centuries
          they have not managed to win a singular real war since napoleon and even that was more the frenchies self sabotaging since the russians still got absolutely smacked with horrible casualties as they tried to engage what was at that point a starving and freezing """army""" dressed in rags

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Unironically the last time Russian army performed well was under Tzarinas. Elizabeth fucked Prussians so hard they would cease to exist if she lived few more months.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They should have learned their lesson after Chechnya, but didn't. What makes you think it's going to be any different this time?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Poland can only get so much German money

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why are the morons suddenly a military export powerhouse? why poland?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >buy 500 artillery systems despite ther fact you need maybe 50 tops
      >no budget for rockets left, systems will be useless after fireing once
      Polish retardation is truly a thing to behold

      People in this thread fail to realise a critical point. If at any point in the future, Russia manages to defeat Ukraine, or open up new fronts with another country (lol), Poland will be where the action takes place. The majority of conventional war would very likely take place in or around Poland, so it makes sense that NATO and everyone else is desperate to give Poles the gud shit. Which is why they are getting the gud shit. Does it matter if it's 200 or 500 HIMARS? no, what matters is having a fuckton of GMLRS launchers. Even 100 of those, korean or otherwise, would annihilate any Russian invasion within weeks

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If there is a war in Poland. The rockets will flow. NATO will supply those launchers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bribes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Euros do that all the time tho.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The US ifv is going to be the redback too

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Where can I read more about this? I don’t believe it for a second

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oshkosh is already publicly disclosing this its effectively a certainty at this point that the M2 replacement will be the Redback

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Can you link me to where you read that

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry if you’re not in the industry I can’t reveal specifics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >technology transfer
      >production in Poland
      >polish components, polish trucks

      >export powerhouse
      morons export nothing. The CEO is the only person to benefit from it since he gets a lump of money for selling out his countries arms industry (to gamble everything away in Vegas like all morons do).
      There is record suicide rates and unemployment in Korea. This will create 0 jobs in Korea but tons in Poland.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >There is record suicide rates and unemployment in Korea.
        Maybe the women should stop cucking them so much then?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >There is record suicide rates and unemployment in Korea.
        Maybe the women should stop cucking them so much then?

        I actually encourage countries to be more like this, advanced societies should be hyper competitive with the weak and those with lesser abilities discarded like trash, only the strong deserve to survive and only the absolute strongest deserve to thrive

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          True. The Nazis could have achieved their superiority aims with capitalism instead of being socialist bitches and losers like they are.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This. There’s a reason the US isn’t giving out full tech transfers and only offers domestic production for random parts not whole systems

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This will create 0 jobs in Korea but tons in Poland.
        which is why it's based

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Korea has no manpower for big production numbers.
        Poland wants domestic production so they can pretend Poland stronk (and also for rational reasons like developing their domestic industry and building up expertise).

        >the US wouldn't allow it to integrate it onto its own chassis or produced locally.
        Translation: the USA saw the performasnce of the Krab and the history of the PL-1 and decided not to risk compromising NATO inter-operability by having low-quality knock-off P-MARS.

        >"Just" 200 HIMARS
        >OMG THEY'RE COMPLETELY ABANDONING HIMARS THEY'RE ONLY GETTING 20 OF THEM TRUST ME BRO

        So basically they couldn't get enough of the actual HIMARS so they settled for an inferior bootleg product. Gotcha. Still, 200 HIMARS is a fuckton.

        What do you get out of shilling for moronistan btw? I mean, if I were shilling for a military I'd at least choose one that's won at least one war in the past few hundred years.

        Fresh HIMARS kino
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        Chunmoo sees first combat
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        You must be over 18 to post here.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Korea has no manpower for big production numbers.
      Poland wants domestic production so they can pretend Poland stronk (and also for rational reasons like developing their domestic industry and building up expertise).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You have no idea how advanced SK is, they are so far ahead even the next closest countries look like thirdies compared to them

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland abandons HIMARS
    >Poland operates 20 units with 200 more on order
    Are you ok moronbro

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >completely abandoning
      >Poland will acquire “just” 200 HIMARS

      >At the end of May, Poland issued the United States a Letter of Request (LoR) for the acquisition of 486 HIMARS rocket launchers. This time, the Poles requested a substantial degree of Polonization and the transfer of technology and know-how. There is currently a discussion of purchasing “just” 200 HIMARS. It is unclear what stage the discussions are at and whether or not the United States is prepared to trade technology. In any event, Koreans are unparalleled in their adaptability.

      Those 200 only exist in a form of paper which doesn't have any obligation to proceed with. It's very likely that the Polish MOD will soon withdraw from the negotiation except for the first 20 that have been already paid for and completed. It was never going to make it since the US wouldn't allow it to integrate it onto its own chassis or produced locally.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well yea the HIMARS is in demand. There’s no way the US is going to cuck itself and offer plans production and tech transfer. Get real

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the US wouldn't allow it to integrate it onto its own chassis or produced locally.
        Translation: the USA saw the performasnce of the Krab and the history of the PL-1 and decided not to risk compromising NATO inter-operability by having low-quality knock-off P-MARS.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >"Just" 200 HIMARS
        >OMG THEY'RE COMPLETELY ABANDONING HIMARS THEY'RE ONLY GETTING 20 OF THEM TRUST ME BRO

        So basically they couldn't get enough of the actual HIMARS so they settled for an inferior bootleg product. Gotcha. Still, 200 HIMARS is a fuckton.

        What do you get out of shilling for moronistan btw? I mean, if I were shilling for a military I'd at least choose one that's won at least one war in the past few hundred years.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >completely abandoning
    >Poland will acquire “just” 200 HIMARS

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the first rocket launchers will arrive in 2023! Thus, simultaneously with the American HIMARS ordered five years ago
    H O W
    O
    W

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Burgers are a bit slow please understand

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Korea is selling already produced chunmoo from their own stocks. The US has a long customer list and their own military to supply

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ok, makes sense.
        Do Korea not use the chungus moo or did they make a tit too many?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          korea is the 8th largest arms exporter. they mostly sell to Turkey and south east Asia.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Who are the first 5?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Based on zero facts and in no particular order, it's probably

              >US
              powergap
              >Russia, though not much longer lmao
              powergap
              >China
              >France/Britian/Italy/Sweden to round out the last slots

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                China is a massive arms manufacturer but a shockingly irrelevant arms exporter.
                It actually makes me wonder what all those "AK countries" are going to do considering how Russia has dried up

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                China exports some to the turd world. SEA abd Mongolia buy their shit in order to curry favor from Beijing like the Thai, Burmese and Cambodian who bought chink weaponry to appease China and get gibs and tourists

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's because it's primary competition was Russia, who already had long and extensive ties with the nations that would be interested in Chinese exports. Uphill battle to break into the market plus political considerations.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia, though not much longer lmao
                Wouldn't the numbers only go up with how much they gave to the Ukrops?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              1. US 39% share of global arms export
              2. Russia 19%
              3. France 11%
              4. China 4.6%
              5. Germany 4.5%
              6. Italy 3.1%
              7. UK 2.9%
              8. SK 2.8%
              9. Spain 2.5%
              10. Israel 2.4%
              https://247wallst.com/special-report/2022/07/25/the-25-largest-arms-exporting-countries-and-who-they-sell-to/5/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They are climbing very fast. They are #4 right now.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I guess fascism works.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This year they are somewhere between 2, 3 or 4. The top 4 are the US, South Korea, Russia and France, all other countries are not even close to this group.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They do, they just have no qualms about gutting their own military to make a buck

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Their military strength doesn’t matter. Their dependent on the US for defense. Might as well make some money

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Their military strength doesn’t matter. Their dependent on the US for defense. Might as well make some money

            SK standing military is about the same size of western europe combined let that sink in

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No it isn’t

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When you want the best you have to pay out the ass and wait in line. Sorry if that’s a foreign concept to you. There’s still a lot more HIMARS exported and on order than chunmoo. Not to mention the GMLRS is the only mass produced guided rocket in the world

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dare I say, cope?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >20 HIMARS delivered to poland after 5 years
      Poland needs weapons now so 200 HIMARS + 300 Chunmoo doesn't sound bad in the end

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you so defensive of HIMARS, unless you are an unironic paid shill what the FUCK is wrong with you. You come into every thread doing this, this is not normal behavior.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why is HIMARS better than Chun Moo?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        because muh murica stuff is the only good and best mentality of gays

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >air transportable by c-130 and heavy lift helicopters meaning it can go more places
        >lighter meaning it can go more places
        >smaller so you can put more of them on an expeditious ship
        >premier mlrs of the US, who are the only manufacturer of the GMLRS and PrSM and their production capacity is huge
        >name recognition due to excellent performance in war

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >>air transportable by c-130 and heavy lift helicopters meaning it can go more places
          meaning it can go more places
          so you can put more of them on an expeditious ship
          forgot to add it have half of Chunmoo rocket payload kek

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fear not, the m270 has the same. Capacity isn’t everything or pic rel would be king

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              HIMARS is 7m long K239 9m. It's a slightly larger truck with twice the payload.

              HIMARS is great for USA since you can fly it anywhere but in defensive role M270 or K239 make more sense. And since Poland has a good road network wheeled launcher is actually better.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Now do width and weight kek

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                2.9m vs 2.5m. And yes K239 is heavier but also has more wheels. They will be using roads anyways. If Russians couldn't destroy roads in Ukraine after half a year they sure as fuck won't od that in Poland.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If Ukrainians can easily hide 60ton 38ft PzH's from russian air force I really doubt that slightly bigger and heavier truck matters. Especially since Poland has way more forests than Ukraine and like 4x the road density.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >posting meme weapon compilation404.jpg
              Going as typical aye? The fact that the US still produces M270 completely nullifies what you just said. Also, HIMARS is a byproduct of FCS program in the early 2000s, when they still had thought making every piece of armoured vehicle air-liftable by C-130.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >when they still had thought making every piece of armoured vehicle air-liftable by C-130 was cool

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >buy 500 artillery systems despite ther fact you need maybe 50 tops
    >no budget for rockets left, systems will be useless after fireing once
    Polish retardation is truly a thing to behold

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why don't Poles realise the importance of compatibility? Even if Chudmoo is cheaper, they won't be able to get supplied by their allies in case of a war. And then they also have 3 different MBTs and loads of other incompatible stuff.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The launcher is basically a knock-off M270. They made it precisely to be compatible with the existing M26A1 227mm rockets.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Chunmoo 227mm is compatible with the US GMLR used with HIMARS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They take the same missile containers as M142 retard bro.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they k239 have a 239mm tube system with the same guidance format as the GMLRS. extra space wont affect the rocket.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They will just buy adapters from Ali Express

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's sad how concern trolls keep getting so many (you)s on this board.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        PrepHole has always been the easiest board to troll. something about people here causes them to always take people's posts as honest arguments made in good faith. every single fucking thread on this board will have at least one (most likely not genuine) poster make the most retarded statement and get 20 (You)s.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >something about people here causes them to always take people's posts as honest arguments made in good faith
          High IQ, majority white, from high trust/cohesion societies. Same shit with Scandinavia, they are a bunch of naive motherfuckers who always for the same reason expect people behave well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think the morons agreed to setup a factory in Poland and eventually let the Polacks produce it themselves

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. They're going to be integrated into Polish Jelcz vehicles.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Poland literally names their trucks after dick stretching
          wtf

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            something some thing small peepee (it's pronounced yelch)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What language is does it mean that in?

            • 1 month ago
              T-I-G-E-R-S

              Serbian probably

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The US is pretty reluctant to do a transfer of technology, but the Koreans will do it as part of the deal for both the launching systems and munitions Poland is interested in. All in all, pretty smart move from Poland as if Vatmorons chimp out they will be able to source munitions from both the US and Korea (in addition to their own domestic production).

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do you think we will see Chunmoo in Ukraine?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There are already rumors about Korean systems on the way through Czech republic. We'll see.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Czech
        I remember before the war Czech was one of the biggest putin supporters lol.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What are you smoking? Must be some good shit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao no, the opposite.
          t. Czech

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I remember russian tv showed a lot of Zeman supporting putin before.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Russian TV
              Exactly.
              Zeman was at most always very pragmatic politician - he never took any strong "moral" stances and always looked up more to trade benefits. Which is why he was originally for trading relationships with the west, but also Russia and China. This of course meant he is "pro-russian" for both EUcrats and Russhits - both of which have no issues with lying.

              After monke sperged out, he publicly apologized and said he was mistaken about disregarding those who adviced him not to.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, but poles might give them the 20 HIMARS they already have if chungus arrive quickly

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    FAKE NEWS

    The HIMARS is a wonder weapon that is completely blowing up vatmorons, so how could Poland choose an unproven weapon instead?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you retarded?
      they already bought HIMARS and will buy even more plus some Choungous

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's in the second "§" US increased prodiction of HIMARS to 100 annually. So it would take ~5years to deliver last one.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can these systems share rockets?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly K239 is better for Poland. HIMARS is only better when you need airlift capabilities. Two launchers per truck make more sense in every other scenario. And when you have decent roads wheels make more sense than tracks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Chunmoo can’t be slung under a heavy lift helicopter so it is severely limited in terms of mobility.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Chunmoo is cheaper than HIMARS by 40%.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yea because it’s fat, slow, and can’t be slung.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Probably better protected too.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not an important factor for a mlrs meant to fire from behind friendly lines. M270 is better protected than chunmoo as well

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >can’t be slung
            ?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Only USA would do that anyways. Poland doesn't even have any heavy lift helis.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Poland doesn’t have a serious military. Being able to be slung under a heavy lift helicopter is a massive advantage

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            When you are invading someone. Those are defensive weapons. They don't need air lift capability at all.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Okay that’s how poland uses them. Other militaries might want to advance and take ground. It’s a massive capability that the HIMARS has over chunmoo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Did you saw himars getting litfted by helis in Ukraine? Why would Poland need that when their position is totally defensive on European map

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              In that case why not just ditch the wheels and make static MLRS emplacements. Take your cope back to the redback thread

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you fucking retarded or something? Are Ukrainians flying their HIMARS around the front lines?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No but they’re a small military. Most modern militaries see the importance of logistics. You’re losing this argument

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Logistic in Poland are roads gay. You warched too many action movies with shit being lift by big helis in murica

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Only a moron could lean on Poland this hard. Shockingly, Poland isn’t the end all be all of military procurement

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You don't airlift your MLRS in contested air space you fucking idiot. You are crying about a feature those K239 will never need.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >what are friendly lines
                >what is air superiority
                Yea you can fly helicopters behind friendly lines as much as you want. That’s where mlrs operates anyway

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >air transportable by c-130 and heavy lift helicopters meaning it can go more places
        >lighter meaning it can go more places
        >smaller so you can put more of them on an expeditious ship
        >premier mlrs of the US, who are the only manufacturer of the GMLRS and PrSM and their production capacity is huge
        >name recognition due to excellent performance in war

        Poland doesn’t have a serious military. Being able to be slung under a heavy lift helicopter is a massive advantage

        >HIMARS
        >slung by helicopters
        What are you smoking? Like seriously, Anon.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    one choonmoo is like 2 himars.next year first delivery. nice buy. gratz

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the entire American military-industrial complex can't keep up with every other country's sudden demand for weapons to kill russians and chinks with

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Tbh I found the himars shilling a bit baffling. It's literally the great value version of the MRLS, itself a weapon system from the 80s, it being presented as some sort of wunderwaffe seemed strange.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not so much about the system, but the ammunition it can fire, and how quickly it can reload.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The central appeal of the Ukraine conflict is that we've finally got to see the World War 3 that could have been; i.e. 1980s American tech absolutely shitting on 1970s Russian tech
      We should dig up a bunch of M60 Pattons and F-14s and M16A2s to send

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sir where does it say Poland abandons HIMARS completely you stinky poo.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >US offers the best shit on the world
    >but doesn't want to share the technology or license manufacturing in export markets

    >morons offer copycats of US shit
    >but will happily let you manufacture their shit in house because it makes it easier for them to peddle their shit in small european countries if they have a manufacturing/maintenance hub that's local to the region

    It's above all a
    >muh jobs
    game.
    Military is an endless drain on resources. Extracting some fiscal value from the manufacturing process is better than extracting none
    Only the US military can extract profit from war by invading poor shitholes so that corporations can fuck them in the ass.
    Small shitholes like Poland can't, for them maintaining a capable military means throwing money into the garbage bin

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it's le cat pee poo kraut shill
      Care to tell me since when did the US start offering tech transfer regarding ballistic missiles like South Korea is doing with the Chunmoo deal?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >when did the US start offering tech transfer regarding ballistic missiles like South Korea is doing with the Chunmoo
        never, that was my point.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Korean missiles are also much cheaper. Raybolt is 1/4 the price of Javelin with just slightly worse capability.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine doesn’t transport mlrs by air
    >this means the capability is useless

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >flying across contested airspace with a helicopter is a good idea
      Here's (You).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >being able to fly your mlrs long distances is le bad

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >long distances
          The only helicopter that is capable of lifting HIMARS theoratically is Mi-26, not even the king stallion can lift it.
          So how does that fit into the category of flexibility?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why the fuck would a country in the middle of Europe need to lift them long distance? And they are getting 20-100 HIMARS anyways.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland completely abandoning HIMARS
    >Poland will acquire “just” 200 HIMARS missile launchers
    ?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >If you can't afford M270s you deserve to be poor

    -Jack Ma

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >slower
      >heavier
      >less range
      >ruins roads

      M270 is better in places like Iraq. Not in Europe where you actually have roads everywhere.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The plan is to co develop 200km ER GMLRS equivalent and 500km PrSM equivalent for them too. Damn.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >K239 Czunmuzski

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    HAHAHAHA OHNONONONO
    LOOKS LIKE POLACKS DONT HAVE ENOUGH GERMAN GIBS ANYMORE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kek the money train ends here. No way they’ll be able to afford 200 HIMARS and the US isn’t cutting the price. No refunds polebros

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do we even know anything about Korean 239mm missiles? I only hear they supposedly have larger warheads but slightly shorter range compared to US 227mm.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We know they’re ATACMS clone failed a launch last week in response to north koreas icbm testing. This speaks volumes about Korea indigenous missile tech

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not even the same missile you complete retard.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh your talking about the missile that’s not even in low rate initial production. Disregarded

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No you fucking monkey 239mm are in use for years. It's the new 400mm and 600mm that are still in testing.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Serious question, nobody laugh.
              Why don't they make the rockets rectangular? They could pack so much more fuel and explosives into rectangular rockets.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because they wouldn't be rounds then, duh?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because you don't want to have to deal with the complications that being square would bring to the aerodynamics of the system vs being radially symmetrical

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How do you fail a missile that hasn't even entered service yet?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/hbMEfTW.jpg

        Whoever you buy from? Can they guarantee they will support the platform in 30 years?

        That's all anyone should care about after cost. So French/British/German/Korean made goes out the window immediately.

        That leaves US, Russian, or Chinese.

        And then the USA turns on GPS geo-encryption so the K239 is now less capable than the worst Russian system,

        Here comes the cope. Yesterday you were saying this deal is never happening. Now it's incompetent crying.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't see this yesterday. And my comment is real. If the US is at war the geo-encryption gets turned on.
          As long as it can be supported by the developer it might be a better deal. It is @$500k less than HIMARS per unit, so buy 6 get a 7th free.
          IS SK going to be able to deliver masses of them on time with high reliability?
          If so then it is better to get this than wait in line for HIMARs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That was Hyunmoo-2. Over 20 years old surplus missile.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What's interesting about this incident was among the failed missiles, there's an ATACMS provided by the US.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whoever you buy from? Can they guarantee they will support the platform in 30 years?

    That's all anyone should care about after cost. So French/British/German/Korean made goes out the window immediately.

    That leaves US, Russian, or Chinese.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ... Unless you get a transfer of technology and support it yourself...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nice thing abut US made.

        1. Your slavic airfield is carpet bombed by cruise missiles in surprise attack

        ???

        Call US Ambassador and NATO. Shipment of new equipment safe and stored in Nevada or Ohio. Think of US missile mags/rocket mags as your little cloud storage.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >American Weapons Service

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And then the USA turns on GPS geo-encryption so the K239 is now less capable than the worst Russian system,

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have a horse in this race but something about South Korea selling weapons to Poland tickles me

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honest question, why all these Polish weapon purchases causes so much drama on PrepHole and there are just total pro-USA shills, pro-Korea shills or shills calling this whole deal fake and how Poland is piss poor and will have to get German gibs? Each time I look into these threads it's like mental breakdown.
    t. Pollack

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's 90% vatniks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vatniks are extremely desperate to undermine and change people’s opinion of the war so they can sue for peace before they lose crimea now.
      They are greatly exaggerating minor accomplishments and using fear mongering trying to sow division and demoralization amongst the big bad west so they stop getting hammered by NATO aid.

      That’s what all the shitposting is. Honestly just sit back and enjoy it, it’s a guarantee the russians are getting truly nervous about crimea.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Frontier India is the online publication of content creation company Frontier India Technology.
    >Since its inception in 2006, the company has been engaged in digital content creation, distribution, and online book sales. In 2016, the company published its first paperback and subsequently went on to publish several books as a traditional publisher whilst initiating its book distribution business through online, offline, and institutional means, before going on to make forays in the book promotion market as well.
    >pajeet self publishing company media front
    dude what the hell are you reading?
    anyway what's with all the korean shilling lately? it's clearly all from the same handful of people with the same ESL quirks revealing their samefagging

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Authors But Not Expert
      >Offset and stretched copyright infringement
      Pottery!
      Captcha: KYSPAK

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >dude what the hell are you reading?
      Doesn't prevent you from delivering the truth in any ways. Why are you so obsessed with the fact that it's written by an Indian instead of the actual context of the article?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        now this is truly hybrid information warfare
        these psy ops run deep!
        anyway if your news source has boss baby telling me to self publish my homeopathy books then your mom sucs my dic hard thru my jorts

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What’s with the Poles and the Kims teaming up lately? Are they planing to nuke their enemies out of orbit lately or something?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Similar situation with retarded monke neighbors I guess.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I can speculate that its safer to order from partner that doesnt have as much political leverage as US or contradictory local interests as Germans/French might. Less chance that something might get remotely switched off or be denied spare parts, etc in case of emergency, since Kims are more neutral in Europan affairs. Korean gear is also modern and competitively priced.

      [...]
      I actually encourage countries to be more like this, advanced societies should be hyper competitive with the weak and those with lesser abilities discarded like trash, only the strong deserve to survive and only the absolute strongest deserve to thrive

      True. The Nazis could have achieved their superiority aims with capitalism instead of being socialist bitches and losers like they are.

      >t.
      Its ironic, how because of this very attitude, you are going to be replaced by nepotistic Pajeets and Chinks imported as a cheap workforce by muh hypercompetitive capitalist sharks. Which results in your Randian utopia becoming a statist Mumbai-like slum, kek. No one will miss you either.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fresh HIMARS kino

    [...]

    [...]

    [...]

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Chunmoo sees first combat

    [...]

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who gives a shit?

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Main battle tanks

    South Korea: 520 K2s, 1511 K1s (M1 clones)

    UK: 227 Challenger 2s
    France: 222 Leclercs
    Germany: 266 Leopard 2s
    Italy: 197 Arietes
    Spain: 327 Leopard 2s
    Netherlands: 18 Leopard 2s
    Sweden: 121 Leopard 2s
    Switzerland: 380 Leopard 2s
    Denmark: 44 Leopard 2s
    Austria: 56 Leopard 2s
    Belgium: none

    SK: 2,011 main battle tanks
    UK+France+Germany+Italy+Spain+Netherlands+Sweden+Austria+Switzerland+Denmark+Belgium: 1,858 main battle tanks

    Tier 1 tanks: K2
    Tier 2 tanks: K1, Leopard 2, Challenger 2, Leclerc
    Tier 3 tanks: Ariete

    A similar comparison is with other weapons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only 260 k2 tanks have ever been produced

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That’s only 20 per year

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    better move geopolitically. SK needs its war industries in full speed production

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is all the Best Korea shit called Dongs and the Worst Korea shit called Moos?

    Those words are just fucking weird. They are sexually euphemistic in the Japanese fetish sense.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yuro ameriboos on suicide watch

    t. burger

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t care about the launch vehicles, how many missles are they buying?

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