Dubs tells you to go into any pub or bar in the UK, and you're sure to find someonw who was on that mission and they can't tell you because of opsec but then tell you anyway.
>I have a headcannon based on the self-exonerating work of a proven liar and evident narcissist, who, of all the accounts made had the biggest reasons to lie
Ok, that’s fine.
Overrated bong military fricking up and getting BTFO and then coming up with a 100 page thesis on how it wasn't their fault. Pretty standard stuff for the limeys over the last century.
Dubs tells you to go into any pub or bar in the UK, and you're sure to find someonw who was on that mission and they can't tell you because of opsec but then tell you anyway.
Hah I dont know so much now but this or some drunk old fricker who could tell you about his secret missions in the falklands. Guess its the bong equivalent of alocholic boomers who claim they were green berets or cia in vietnam
Mi6 is a fricking darkhole mate, it has basically no government oversight and Im told are basically the guys who do all the dirty work even the CIA doesnt want on its record. Ive known 1 family member with military service get loosely involved and apparently it was incredibly shady start to finish.
A distant family member was part of the wartime equivalent of MI6 back in WW2 and we -still- can't access his records.
I gotta wonder what he was up to that the government doesn't want to talk about even 80 years later.
One book I'd recommend is "The Feather Men" by explorer Ranulph Fiennes. Based on real events (well OK, but obviously to be taken with a fist of salt), but exciting stuff nonetheless. Film version is "Killer Elite".
No, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a big fat bluffing c**t. The best we can do is look at past allegations. You’ll want to read up on:
14th Intelligence Company
Red Hand Commandos
Stakeknife
Force Research Unit
Of course, it’s hard to know what’s true.
Yeah they’re all troubles related and yeah you’re pretty much correct. So little is known about them and all of a sudden they became really effective hitters and forces the provos leadership to do a complete 180 on their willingness to negotiate. Whilst not all the units/people I listed have SIS involvement it gives an idea of how our spooks potentially operated generally.
Brit SAS tried to do Euro style concealed OP surveillance recon mission like in the german forests, but in a flat featureless Iraqi desert and got spotted by local goatfrickers. >write up their capture as 'heroic firefight' destroying AFVs with M72s... found dumped after the war unfired
Bravest Patrol Commander of the 3 was the one who took one look off the back ramp of the CH-47 and said "nope, its shit, we're going back"
Ballsy call to abort the mission but he made the correct decision.
The rest of 22SAS then went back to oldschool vehicle mounted recon patrolling as they did in WW2 N.Africa while the B2-0 guys were getting bumfricked daily by Iraqi secret police >dont write a lot about how much they enjoyed the bumsex
>Bravest Patrol Commander of the 3 was the one who took one look off the back ramp of the CH-47 and said "nope, its shit, we're going back"
Amen to that. I'm sure his guys appreciated it. Moral courage is often overlooked by services that value physical courage.
Chris Ryan account is a bit fricky
There was a documentary that tried to trace where it all happened, they actually interviewed the kid who supposedly found them and he said he didn't see anything
He also claimed that he killed 2 Iraqi soldiers at a water purifying plant, there was absolutely no record of Iraqi soldiers being killed there.
Not much of what he said makes sense under scrutiny but it's a good story at least.
Andy McNab's account seems pretty genuine, he's a pretty cool guy.
Nothing in McNab's book seems implausible. I've always found the beef between Ryan and McNab strange because the latter has nothing but good things to say about the former in his account of the patrol.
Because 'Ryan' bolted and left the rest of his team behind, so 'McNab' and the others got their asses pounded and toughed it out. >being a splitter is worse than being ass-raped, and 'Ryan' is rated lower because of it, so has to be more defensive about it.
Both Steven billy Mitchell and Colin Armstrong are liars and cowards, simple as. Both of their accounts have been proven fabrications and both are persona non grata in camp.
McNab had been in many life threatening situations before and is a clinical psychopath. I don't buy cowardice as an explanation of the mission's failure.
McNab was in combat for the first time around 15 years prior to B2-0. Or is that lies as well? I might be coming off as a fan boy, but the anti-McNab case is hardly watertight, is it?
'The Real Bravo Two Zero' by Michael Asher is hardly a conclusive work on the subject. He comes across as a salty Arabist who loathed McNab for his insensitive attitude towards the 'ragheads'
Yeah because that’s the only counter sauce. Oh wait… it isn’t.
McNab was in combat for the first time around 15 years prior to B2-0. Or is that lies as well? I might be coming off as a fan boy, but the anti-McNab case is hardly watertight, is it?
It did. He isn’t allowed to go to reunions on base and no one wanted to work with him on the pmc circuit so he was forced to write shit novels for gullible morons like you to consoom
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I'm a moron simply because I want a more sturdy case to be made against him? It honestly just seems like sour grapes.
Chris Ryan account is a bit fricky
There was a documentary that tried to trace where it all happened, they actually interviewed the kid who supposedly found them and he said he didn't see anything
He also claimed that he killed 2 Iraqi soldiers at a water purifying plant, there was absolutely no record of Iraqi soldiers being killed there.
Not much of what he said makes sense under scrutiny but it's a good story at least.
Andy McNab's account seems pretty genuine, he's a pretty cool guy.
Nothing in McNab's book seems implausible. I've always found the beef between Ryan and McNab strange because the latter has nothing but good things to say about the former in his account of the patrol.
Because 'Ryan' bolted and left the rest of his team behind, so 'McNab' and the others got their asses pounded and toughed it out. >being a splitter is worse than being ass-raped, and 'Ryan' is rated lower because of it, so has to be more defensive about it.
dunno what happened but some dude came on tv and said the whole mission from the start was fricked up. The sas seem to be the exact opposite of what navy seals are like and with what happened with latrel
latrel and the navy seal boys went in with helicopter insurtion cos thy are lazy bravo 2 zero were asked if they wanted a vehical cos of the long journey they said no we can do it.
the harbour space they made was also shit apprently i dunno it's only what i heared. Also the other guy who was with them not andy mcnab chris whats his face said the story is very different to what happened he was explaining it on the tellie i think you can find it on youtube or you could email the guy
How come this thread doesn't have homosexuals reeeing that's it's "mot /k/ related" just like all the Ukraine threads?
It's not specifically about a weapon system, it's primarily about anecdotes of a war. If they were honestly concerned about the purity of /k/ ant just dishonest seething /misc/Black folk, they should be all over this thread.
STFU nerd, monarchism has at it's core the idea that ruler is anointed by God, with a divine right to his position. Cromwell specifically rejected such things. The position of Lord Protector was specifically a rejection of divine right, and the very name is that it was meant to protect the republican Parliament.
I don't know why homosexuals like you insist on neo-cavalier revisionism. It's not like Cromwell is gonna climb up out of his grave any time soon or that the current system of constitutional monarchy is under any threat whatsoever.
Dubs tells you to go into any pub or bar in the UK, and you're sure to find someonw who was on that mission and they can't tell you because of opsec but then tell you anyway.
Cowards let their friends die then scarpered and lied about it.
this /thread
Source?
B20
The one that got away
Eye of the storm
The real b20
Soldier five: the real truth about the b20 mission
I've read all those and frankly I still think McNabs's account contains the most truth. The others just seem weirdly jealous of him.
>I have a headcannon based on the self-exonerating work of a proven liar and evident narcissist, who, of all the accounts made had the biggest reasons to lie
Ok, that’s fine.
A fricking child goat herder wrecked the plan. There was no plan B.
Overrated bong military fricking up and getting BTFO and then coming up with a 100 page thesis on how it wasn't their fault. Pretty standard stuff for the limeys over the last century.
Seething JF
Hah I dont know so much now but this or some drunk old fricker who could tell you about his secret missions in the falklands. Guess its the bong equivalent of alocholic boomers who claim they were green berets or cia in vietnam
>Guess its the bong equivalent of alocholic boomers who claim they were green berets or cia in vietnam
Do bongs have their own paramilitary group for their respective intelligence agency (mi6) ?
Mi6 is a fricking darkhole mate, it has basically no government oversight and Im told are basically the guys who do all the dirty work even the CIA doesnt want on its record. Ive known 1 family member with military service get loosely involved and apparently it was incredibly shady start to finish.
Maybe it needs to be?
A distant family member was part of the wartime equivalent of MI6 back in WW2 and we -still- can't access his records.
I gotta wonder what he was up to that the government doesn't want to talk about even 80 years later.
Supposedly called "The Increment". But there's no admission that it even exists, which is the optimal approach for a gunned-up glowie cadre I guess.
Chris Ryan published a novel about that very group over twenty years ago. He seems to have a fetish for governmental betrayal.
One book I'd recommend is "The Feather Men" by explorer Ranulph Fiennes. Based on real events (well OK, but obviously to be taken with a fist of salt), but exciting stuff nonetheless. Film version is "Killer Elite".
No, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a big fat bluffing c**t. The best we can do is look at past allegations. You’ll want to read up on:
14th Intelligence Company
Red Hand Commandos
Stakeknife
Force Research Unit
Of course, it’s hard to know what’s true.
>Red Hand Commandos
Quick google search. They seem like bong's Contras but for dealing with potato Black person.
Yeah they’re all troubles related and yeah you’re pretty much correct. So little is known about them and all of a sudden they became really effective hitters and forces the provos leadership to do a complete 180 on their willingness to negotiate. Whilst not all the units/people I listed have SIS involvement it gives an idea of how our spooks potentially operated generally.
Brit SAS tried to do Euro style concealed OP surveillance recon mission like in the german forests, but in a flat featureless Iraqi desert and got spotted by local goatfrickers.
>write up their capture as 'heroic firefight' destroying AFVs with M72s... found dumped after the war unfired
Bravest Patrol Commander of the 3 was the one who took one look off the back ramp of the CH-47 and said "nope, its shit, we're going back"
Ballsy call to abort the mission but he made the correct decision.
The rest of 22SAS then went back to oldschool vehicle mounted recon patrolling as they did in WW2 N.Africa while the B2-0 guys were getting bumfricked daily by Iraqi secret police
>dont write a lot about how much they enjoyed the bumsex
>Bravest Patrol Commander of the 3 was the one who took one look off the back ramp of the CH-47 and said "nope, its shit, we're going back"
Amen to that. I'm sure his guys appreciated it. Moral courage is often overlooked by services that value physical courage.
McNab (or whatever his real name is) is based.
Both Steven billy Mitchell and Colin Armstrong are liars and cowards, simple as. Both of their accounts have been proven fabrications and both are persona non grata in camp.
Cowards wouldn't have passed Selection.
Until someone's actually in mortal danger you don't know if they're cowards or not, "cowards don't pass selection" is bullshit
McNab had been in many life threatening situations before and is a clinical psychopath. I don't buy cowardice as an explanation of the mission's failure.
Being physically beaten up doesn’t have shit to do with how people react to actual combat.
McNab was in combat for the first time around 15 years prior to B2-0. Or is that lies as well? I might be coming off as a fan boy, but the anti-McNab case is hardly watertight, is it?
You’re a moron. Simple as.
Do you say this because you have dispassionately analysed the available evidence. Or is it because you have some /misc/ vendetta against 'ZOGbots'
>/pol
Go back to plebbit. My army number starts with 3014 btw.
Fair enough, but can you blame me? There is a massive amount of pathological hatred on this site when it comes to Western soldiers.
'The Real Bravo Two Zero' by Michael Asher is hardly a conclusive work on the subject. He comes across as a salty Arabist who loathed McNab for his insensitive attitude towards the 'ragheads'
Yeah because that’s the only counter sauce. Oh wait… it isn’t.
It’s airtight.
If the case was airtight it would have destroyed McNab's pot Army career. The fact that it hasn't means there is room for doubt.
It did. He isn’t allowed to go to reunions on base and no one wanted to work with him on the pmc circuit so he was forced to write shit novels for gullible morons like you to consoom
I'm a moron simply because I want a more sturdy case to be made against him? It honestly just seems like sour grapes.
Chris Ryan account is a bit fricky
There was a documentary that tried to trace where it all happened, they actually interviewed the kid who supposedly found them and he said he didn't see anything
He also claimed that he killed 2 Iraqi soldiers at a water purifying plant, there was absolutely no record of Iraqi soldiers being killed there.
Not much of what he said makes sense under scrutiny but it's a good story at least.
Andy McNab's account seems pretty genuine, he's a pretty cool guy.
Nothing in McNab's book seems implausible. I've always found the beef between Ryan and McNab strange because the latter has nothing but good things to say about the former in his account of the patrol.
Because 'Ryan' bolted and left the rest of his team behind, so 'McNab' and the others got their asses pounded and toughed it out.
>being a splitter is worse than being ass-raped, and 'Ryan' is rated lower because of it, so has to be more defensive about it.
Daft, Ryan gave the enemy nothing by escaping.
dunno what happened but some dude came on tv and said the whole mission from the start was fricked up. The sas seem to be the exact opposite of what navy seals are like and with what happened with latrel
latrel and the navy seal boys went in with helicopter insurtion cos thy are lazy bravo 2 zero were asked if they wanted a vehical cos of the long journey they said no we can do it.
the harbour space they made was also shit apprently i dunno it's only what i heared. Also the other guy who was with them not andy mcnab chris whats his face said the story is very different to what happened he was explaining it on the tellie i think you can find it on youtube or you could email the guy
military and media would never lie therefore its true on all counts
On a semi unrelated note . Is Chris Ryan's books actually good ?
His account of the mission is a good read if nothing else. When it comes to his novels I'd recommend 'Tenth Man Down'
How come this thread doesn't have homosexuals reeeing that's it's "mot /k/ related" just like all the Ukraine threads?
It's not specifically about a weapon system, it's primarily about anecdotes of a war. If they were honestly concerned about the purity of /k/ ant just dishonest seething /misc/Black folk, they should be all over this thread.
>Cromwell
>Republican
He literally made his son the heir when he died. He was doing monarchism in all but name. Which is why he got kicked out.
STFU nerd, monarchism has at it's core the idea that ruler is anointed by God, with a divine right to his position. Cromwell specifically rejected such things. The position of Lord Protector was specifically a rejection of divine right, and the very name is that it was meant to protect the republican Parliament.
I don't know why homosexuals like you insist on neo-cavalier revisionism. It's not like Cromwell is gonna climb up out of his grave any time soon or that the current system of constitutional monarchy is under any threat whatsoever.
>gets rekt
>seethes
>worships the biggest golem in British history
Kek
>/misc/ buzzwords
>Claims victory
>Says nothing of substance
I'm comfortable with your weak and reflexive attack
I’m not the poster you were getting btfo by. Go back to plebbit, schizo homosexual.