Brand new chinese QBZ-191 keyholing at 20 feet

also the video is of their new all-female SWAT team
china will grow stronger

https://twitter.com/sugar_wsnbn/status/1551922256829628416

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    webm of the ending

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fuck

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      god have mercy on any civilians who have to be “rescued” by them

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not SWAT, it’s the first all female death squad

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >communist hostage rescue team
        If they're anything like Ruskie hostage rescue teams then I expect frequent and repeated use of the term "acceptable casualties".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Goddamnit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      god have mercy on any civilians who have to be “rescued” by them

      notice how they don’t show any closeups on the “hostage” picture targets

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy fuck bros we gotta be careful with china their bullets make massive holes!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        gonna fully cover myself in lvl II armor

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I see China played MGS 3 and learned the secret of how 5.56 works. It's only a matter of time until they perfect the beta C drum that gives infinite ammo

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't the mag that gave infinite ammo, it was because the chamber was shaped like an infinity symbol

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You clearly don't remember the basics of CQC.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Didn't watch the latest Flannel Daddy video
            Yup, ngmi

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What, the video posted 9 hours ago? Long after any of those comments were made? No, I haven't seen the video that was uploaded after I made the comments.

              Regardless, the MGS3 memes stand.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe plastic training rounds?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I doubt it. I've shot the weird blue plastic ones out to like 75m and they still make nice little circles.

        How the fuck does it even get that bad? Smoothbore with no rifling made? Even a worn down barrel would at least put some spin.

        If you had seen some of the development pics of these fucking things you wouldn't be surprised.
        For example, the ejection port has this weird little notch on top towards the rear.
        What happened with that was in the initial prototype it was a squared off opening, but for some reason the extractor kept kicking cases up into it at that point and jamming.
        Instead of going back and fixing the bolt design they instead just kept filing the prototype at that point, widening the port hole until it worked, and voila - the production gun now has a milled rise at that specific point.
        The whole gun is a klodge job. I'm surprised they even brought it into adoption.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm surprised they even brought it into adoption.
          the chinese will accept literally anything in to service because someone is getting a cut

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe plastic training rounds?

          The backstop supports this idea. Since its not a backstop seems more like some sort of limestone wall. Should be smashed rock dust coming off with real bullets.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You don't see all the shit falling down from behind the target?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If those were actual full-powered rifle rounds, that backstop would be throwing off 1000x more debris

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe the bullets are too heavy for the barrel's twist rate?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is the pic I think you are looking for

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is this an old pic? I watched a couple videos on it last night that were posted a few months back and it looked a little different, I believe it does have free floated hand guards and fixes to a couple of these other problems now. Not that it's not still shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You get'em ping ping, teach the onions men what chinese maidens are capable of.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chkd

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >high quality
          kek
          >affordable
          double kek. Average wage in China now is much higher than in Mexico.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Stop posting pictures of me and my wife.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why don't they have red dots on their rifles? Isn't that the whole point of the full rails on their new gun?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is fake. Do not believe this anti-China propaganda.

      Fake video. The "keyholes" are CGI.

      CHINA NUMBAH ON-ACK!

      This is fake also.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. fake post

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hi Chang. Another high quality CCP product. Stay away from my dog.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        +1 Yuan has been deposited into your bank account

        +3 social credit points have been added to your score

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but I still think these are some gimped training rounds. Full power cartridges would make short work of that wall. The questionable backstop makes sense for training with plastic/wood or whatever rounds, right? It is like the boomers using wax bullets, putting holes on paper is great practice

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its surprising just how shit bullets are against breezeblock. Youtube e.g. 5.56 makes it to the center cavity, a single layer breezeblock wall good probability of full cover from it. Pistol bullets just make shallow marks on the outside.

            But if your running a range and people are machingunning same wall repeatedly while other ppl running around behind it IDK maybe some sort of high gas plastic bullet shaped object loading that can cycle a rifle without adapter seems reasonable

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The amount of people falling for this blatant bait is hilarious.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe plastic training rounds?

      >Maybe plastic training rounds?
      Non rifled barrels?Is this the true power of 5.8x42?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i would like to bring attention to how much rounds they missed a distance of like 5 meters

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >w*mens unit
        Imagine them attempting to park an APC

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's pretty easy to hit a target at that distance, so i would put the blame on the manufactoring tbh,
          considering it's chink shit

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Chang you bastard, you gave your fellow private the ol' Hispanicy rocket launcher!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              look at the patches lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i cant read chinese, what do they say?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its not what they say its how they are(n't) strapped on

                It's got pot holders, he's okay.

                yeah but it's still not normal thta a launcher does that, no matter how disposable

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's got pot holders, he's okay.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Neat, they got fire enchantments

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Fuck I thought that was just a decal or something?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As fucking hilarious as a shit keyholing gun would be, it does kinda look like there are ricochets from training rounds falling back into the grass... That doesn't excuse the piss poor shooting with the first hits though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hello sir what wrong with product
      I inspected it before sent it was ok
      Please no leave negative review sir
      Can you send back

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I absolutely love those emails
        >this is what you ordered!
        >we'll send a replacement
        >don't leave a bad review!
        >send us back the original!
        >we'll PayPal you $20 to take down the bad review

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's why you scam them back. They'll never ask for their product back since they know it's trash.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I legit looked for a refund on a chinkshit Norotos Rhino clone because it was not usable even as a joke and the gay actually asked me to return it after I managed to explain to his ESL ass that it was a piece of shit.
            Thank god for garden gnomebay covering return shipping, it would have cost me a fortune to ship to insectoid land otherwise.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hapa shills eternally btfo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OH NONONONO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They deleted the original tweet, so they realized how bad this looked.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How. Did the Chinese invent non-axial rifling that spins the bullets end over end?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My guess is either a REAL fucked up muzzle crown or a crooked thread for a flash hider or just a poorly manufactured FH resulting in the bullet striking it and destabilizing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My guess is either a REAL fucked up muzzle crown or a crooked thread for a flash hider or just a poorly manufactured FH resulting in the bullet striking it and destabilizing.

        It could also be shitty plastic training loads issued for this photo op.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't understand why you wouldn't just have training on a proper range where live fire full power ammo is safe.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A photo op that they pulled down quickly?

            It's China. They do nonsensical shit, especially if CCTV wants "Hollywood style" propaganda shit for their normies.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A photo op that they pulled down quickly?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hahahaha dumb americans and their puny rifles cant understand GREAT CHINESE BALLISTICS

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      b-but china numba wan??

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Goddamn.
      Thats horrible.

      Going off what I know, the Chinese classically used 2 5.8mm cartridges.
      One the DPB87 that was lighter and designed for rifles. And the DPB88, that was heavier in bullet weight and longer and designed for MGs, but could be used in a rifle in a pinch to so-so utility.
      Nowadays, the Chinese are using the DBP191 cartridge in these new rifles. I can't find a ton of info about it right now, and it seems that neither can the Chinese themselves online. And otherwise mainly its designed to shoot DBP10. Which is basically a unified cartridge designed to meet in the middle between the DPB87 and DPB88.

      If we assume that these guys are training using old stock ammo. And that these new guns are chambered for the DPB191 cartridge. And it uses a significantly different twist rate than older 5.8 cartridges like DBP87/DBP88, that could explain it.

      https://www.toutiao.com/article/6878704117510832654/?wid=1659222012034
      I'm basing a lot of what I'm saying off of this article.
      That gives a general overview of what changed between the cartridges, including significant changes to bullet design and rifling.
      Enough that I do feel generally confident that its a mismatch of old ammo with new guns.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        webm of the ending

        Otherwise it could be poorly made plastic training ammo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Watch the last round, same bullet

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OH NONONONO
      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The most generous benefit of the doubt I could give them is that these are some sort of test batch rifles, like an early XM sorta thing, and they are just testing the function of the rifle because they are still testing barrel twist rates/coatings/linings whatever. Thus they'd save money and time by not putting in the rifling as they are just testing the mechanical function of the gas system/moving bits etc.

      On the other hand
      lmao holy shit, if the above is true... why would you show it in this state vs a rifle that actually WORKED properly

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I struggle to believe that because they're showing soldiers doing maneuvers and shit. You don't need military dudes doing drills with a rifle to know if it shoots straight, you'd lock it in a vice on a bench and do actual testing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fucking retarded, you'd really assume they're training with some kind of experimental bullshit gun rather than perhaps, with lightweight training ammo that is deliberately unstable to reduce the lethal range and damage done to backstops?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How is that better than just giving frangible ammo or even rubber rounds if they are that concerned

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You really want rubber bullets bouncing back at your face while training?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think i'd rather take my chances with the frangible bullet or rubber bullet as opposed to everyone's shots keyholing all over kingdom come. And i am noting you ignored the frangible or even wax rounds, which I am going to presume China is capable of making

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not here to argue or go tit for tat. I don't have to explain their reasoning. I'm just telling you that they are training rounds. They're not shooting full charge loads into a shitty backstop with who knows what behind it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What the fuck is the point of target training with unstable, inaccurate rounds that aren't even going to feel the same to shoot?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cheaper, same manual of arms, still shows where you're aiming, and you don't have to worry as much about the backstop and what's behind it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Except it doesn't because your pattern is literally random? If you're that worried about your backstop it's really not even advisable to be shooting at that point.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The alternative is using blanks. It looks like they're doing high speed low drag room clearing practice.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/DDRYsjq.png

      also the video is of their new all-female SWAT team
      china will grow stronger

      https://twitter.com/sugar_wsnbn/status/1551922256829628416

      The fact that they released this would seem to indicate they literally do not see what's wrong.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >That keyholing
      Dafuq is up with their barrels?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What if keyholing is actually beneficial in CQB? You don’t need very good accuracy, but a spinning bullet could do a lot of damage

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, it's been proven that key holding will cause more tissue damage. So there's no doubt about that question. I suppose you're correct in that assessment.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Key holding
          I'm trans btw

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A tumbling bullet is more prone to ricochet back at you, your buddies or other bystanders in a close environment. So you can imagine the danger of showering the room with one as you breach.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The trade offs aren't worth it. You don't actually gain any lethality, if at all, and you're strapped with an inaccurate uncontrollable piece of shit with minimal effective range and no chance against any type of armor or barrier. If just blowing the shit out of everything within 20 yards is all you care about and accuracy and penetration and control and shit doesn't matter you'd unironically be better off just using shotguns. At least then if you theoretically did need to reach out to a slightly longer distance you could load in a few slugs and get that job done too, and you could get some good penetration out of that. You could also load them with cheap bird shot for drills and not have to be embarrassed when pissed off video editors you hired but didn't pay to make your propaganda show your targets full of keyholes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but it's very doubtful they designed their guns to keyhole for obvious reasons. It's just training ammo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/DDRYsjq.png

      also the video is of their new all-female SWAT team
      china will grow stronger

      https://twitter.com/sugar_wsnbn/status/1551922256829628416

      Are there any proof that this is not staged? It looks like a 60s b movie

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Sweet christ man.
      How is that even possible?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Pathetic.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CHINA NUMBAH ON-ACK!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I couldn't make that up if I tried.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is he okay?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're monitoring his condition.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Goddammit Carlos

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Heh

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          for fucks sake

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          (You) earned it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          WEW

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR

          based PrepHoleomedians

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hope not.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        apparently still alive and paralyzed

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Supposedly he has severe spinal injury and head trauma, currently still alive after multiple surgeries.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're monitoring his condition.

        I hope not.

        apparently still alive and paralyzed

        Supposedly he has severe spinal injury and head trauma, currently still alive after multiple surgeries.

        He's quadriplegic now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're monitoring his condition.

        apparently still alive and paralyzed

        It's ok, they screened him for the 'rona before admitting him to hospital.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ha ha anti-vax lolz 4chancomedy.
          it's like comedy but not funny.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not even antivaccine.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            rent free

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kek

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WE CAN'T REWIND WE'VE GONE TO FAR

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        FUCK YOU COCK SUCKER
        I'M CALLING THE I.C.E

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Put me in the cap

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MAXIMUM HEAD CRUSH

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus, right on his head and pushed in. It came in at an angle too, like it was waiting for the chance to strike his head, other wise he would have survived. That tv must be what, 400lbs to 600lbs? Survivable, if it doesn't all fall on your head.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s amazing that he actually survived this

      https://i.imgur.com/DDRYsjq.png

      also the video is of their new all-female SWAT team
      china will grow stronger

      https://twitter.com/sugar_wsnbn/status/1551922256829628416

      webm of the ending

      Anyone else find this target looking similar to a Uighur?

      They're monitoring his condition.

      VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR

      CARLOS

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how does this happen

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NO UNIONS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Vibrations can move things around and loosen fastenings. Music is vibrations.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      must have been a bitch to rehearse

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      GREAT CHINESE CRANIUM FOLDED 10000000 TIMES
      DUMB WEAK chud AMERICANS NEVER UNDERSTAND

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm honestly surprised this doesn't happen at more festivals and concerts. Riggers and sound techs are high, rolling or drunk as fuck 99% of the entire setup and duration of the event.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If the stage you're on has any dynamic rigging and you haven't personally met the rigger, Run.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That’s some final destination shit, like God himself wanted this chunk in particular to die that day.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /gif/ has a version of this with Diana talking and Hitman XP readouts on it. Good work 47.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        link it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >that star of david pattern on the stage
            Never relax, and around garden gnomes you lose.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wasn't this in Korea?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nope, Hong Kong.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That doesn’t even look real. Fuck just going to China is dangerous because of all the buildings falling apart now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This looks fake.

      Here's the two frames of the impact; the head looks doesn't recoil back and neither does the shoulders. Instead it looks like they just meshed the TV over the guy's head and called it good.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        https://variety.com/2022/global/asia/dancer-critical-hong-kong-concert-1235329777/

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/a8xKNl6.png

          This looks fake.

          Here's the two frames of the impact; the head looks doesn't recoil back and neither does the shoulders. Instead it looks like they just meshed the TV over the guy's head and called it good.

          Fair enough, I expected more gore from that type of impact.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is there a part where they strip?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God that is fucking hilarious.
    That gun is such a piece of shit, it's literally the worst design components of the AR and AK combined in one awful poorly engineered platform.
    I honestly can't believe that was the result of an arms program in today's age.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The mcx is unironically the more reliable rifle.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If rounds are completely sideways 20feet out, what kind of maximum effective range could that shit possibly have? Its going to be dropping energy like a rock, surely

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s definitely not going through any kind of body armour sideways.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hell, it's ability to penetrate a fucking flak vest is questionable at that point

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sideways pussy sideways bullets

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck does it even get that bad? Smoothbore with no rifling made? Even a worn down barrel would at least put some spin.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Giving them the benefit of the doubt and they're not using smoothbores, they may be using the incorrect weight ammo. 5.8 used to have 2 main variants, a light infantry one (DPB-87) and a heavier one for MGs and marksman's rifles (DPB-88). Then again they supposedly standardized on one universal load back in 2010 but it could be possible they're using old ammo inventory for training. That or nobody cleans their rifles because IIRC 5.8 is still corrosive

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My carcano did the same thing with .264" bullets.The bore was .2665"

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do they even know what keyholing is? If they did, they'd probably be CGI'ing those holes out for their PR video.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does it look like some of the bullets went through that target sideways?
    I'm no rootin' tootin' point-and-shoot-'em gun toting American but even I can tell that's not supposed to happen

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That’s what keyholing is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If your bullets are too small to engage the rifling, or there isn't functional rifling then the bullets won't spin stabilize as intended. They'll flip end over end inaccurately and leave holes like that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bullets spin all over the damn place when fired, the point of rifling is to get them stabilized to where their ballistics are as pinpoint as can be. Its one of the reasons why the minie ball muskets were so devastating for their time, not that musket rifling wasn’t a thing before but the shape of the minie and the rifling pretty much paved the way for modern bullets as we know them. Back on topic, If something is keyholing that badly at such a close range then there is something seriously fucked with the rifle.

      https://i.imgur.com/pHzaaRb.jpg

      it's pretty easy to hit a target at that distance, so i would put the blame on the manufactoring tbh,
      considering it's chink shit

      On one hand seeing that tube lit up like that is pretty cool. On the other that just went flying off the arm, you couldn’t pay me enough to fire one of those.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Probably using SRTA
    https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2005/smallarms/tuesday/macdougall.pdf
    mentions key holing at 25m due to
    >a high Magnus dynamic instability

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >paper target looks like a Uyghur man

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine the damage

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if only you knew how bad things really are.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all-female SWAT team
    but china century bros, i thought ching chongs were immune to woke degeneracy?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't some shithole country in south east Asia just import a ton of these rifles?

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're using this shit. It yaws like crazy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      probably intentionally, so they will shed speed faster and limit range and dont leave the training ground.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why? Every military uses frangible rounds or plastic bullets when it can.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe I'm overthinking it, but these projectiles are not the shape of the keyholes in the OP image and video. They appear to be using pretty typical spitzer shaped bullets.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No you're not overthinking it, it's the bugman damage control engaging.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Earlier versions of the ammo had more of an ogive silhouette.
        Whatever the chinks copied and produced in 5.8×42 might not have the exact same profile as 5.56mm SRTA

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Underrated post. Kinda sad that PrepHole is no longer capable of having civil discussions.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're all ugly

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair, at CQB distances keyholing would be devastating to the target, you just aren't hitting gmuch beyond 50m or so

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unless the person was, you know, using body armor

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Keyholing rifle round will go through soft armor.
        Non-keyholing rifle round won't go through plate
        Your statement is irrelevant

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          You understand plates can't take multiple hits correct? Why does post-2020 PrepHole seem to think plates are magic and bulletproof?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >You understand plates can't take multiple hits correct?
            They most certainly can, not indefinitely, but unless you magdump into a very small area, you're not gonna penetrate any plate that isn't total dogshit.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Post-2020 PrepHole thinks chinks are using concrete blocks as a backstop for full charge rifle rounds

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please post old liveaks of terrible fates befallen chongs, it will make me feel young again

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's by design dipshit.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Keyholing can be caused by so many things. The gun, the ammo.
    I once had ammo keyhole due to me overcrimping which deformed the bullet's bearing surface.
    Good to see China's police/military utilize ammo on par with what I did as a novice reloader years ago.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Might be training rounds. They're firing at short range using a brick wall as backstop and don't want to use blanks.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What you retarded crackers don't realize is that the rounds turn sideways so that the rocket boosters in the back can send them flying into the sky then they com flying back down into the top of your head.
    You retarded whites will never understand

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stfu, ricecel hapa. you will always be a mutt

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is the qbz 195 much better?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have any idea what a sideways bullet will do to some low IQ criminal?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5.8mm is a joke round, that's why they won't let people test it. their army has the same problem; all show no go.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The keyholes are bullets bouncing off the wall and coming back through the target

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt plastic training rounds would do that after hitting a concrete or brick backstop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >bullets bouncing off the wall and coming back through the target
      Make a guess whats standing in front of the target.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all these posts, not even cope, trying to rationalize this webm because there is no way they're that retarded
    I think it may be time to consider that Chinese manufacturing is not the highest quality on Earth.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's obviously true for cheap exported bullshit, because why would they care about the quality of cheap exported bullshit? The entire point is to flood foreign markets with the cheapest possible shit and sell on volume. But, rationally, you'd think that they'd take more care in producing shit that they intend to use for themselves domestically.

      (interestingly, Japan used to be the cheap bullshit manufacturing country but they took enough pride in their work to find ways to make the cheap bullshit better while still being cheap and it made them an economic and manufacturing powerhouse within a generation.)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chinese all fuck each other over. It's literally part of their mercantile culture. There's a popular Chinese phrase that roughly translates to "if you get fucked over on a deal, it was your fault". It wouldn't surprise me at all if the company that made the barrels used absolute shit steel with corners cut in manufacturing in order to get the most money possible out of the contract.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think it's likely the training ammo they were using. If you honestly believe a fully industrialized country of over a billion people, a country fully capable of making every iPhone ever, isn't capable of making a gunbarrel, then you are a moron and you bought the propaganda.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you sure YOU aren't bought into the propaganda? The argument isn't even that they aren't capable of producing a good rifle, it's that from all the evidence we've seen they haven't. Even their own state propaganda that's supposed to make it look as good as possible shows it keyholing. If they simply didn't include the shots of the target we never would have seen that, but it goes to show that even their editors aren't putting in a good effort to make this thing work.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Isn't the propaganda video more for the all-female SWAT team than the guns?
              It'd still be unsurprising if the gun is a total piece of shit thanks to corruption and kickbacks, but I don't think the priority in this video is on making the gun look good.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sure the bullets only tumble because women are using them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, they're capable of making a barrel. They're also capable of almost maliciously fucking it up because the guys supplying certain parts can get away with it. The company contracted to make the barrel doesn't give a fuck about the strength of the military. They only care about how much money they can get from the fancy military contract. China's not at war, so it's not an existential threat to a manufacturer if the guns they make are terminally flawed.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Japan has that excuse because they just came out from a devastating war mixed with decades of political upheaval.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No refunds.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all-female SWAT team
    I'M COOOOOOMING!

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is actually intentional. These bullets are made for anti-protestor work, and are meant to tumble to do the most damage, must like M16 rounds.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you see, boolet go sideways to inflict 5 times the damage, much more effective than hollow point expansion

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ch-ch-china bros?

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having seen the video, the keyholing bullets are almost the most acceptable part of the entire thing. The tactics and kit are rock fuckin bottom

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As I think other people have mentioned, it could be plastic training rounds ricocheting off the wall and then creating a keyhole. If that is the case, it's still concerning that there's so few holes in the target.

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have a mirror? It's been taken down everywhere I looked.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

      https://twitter.com/gatoHypercube/status/1553764947196121094?s=20

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Obligatory

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Is that target supposed to be what the average American looks like according to chinks?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's supposed to be a chinese guy with one of their signature weak ass moustache goatee combo.

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    A whole new meaning to "slant"

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

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