Brace yourselves, because russians have once again showcased unparalleled innovation. What you are looking at is a satellite image featuring a TU-95 strategic bomber covered with car tires. According to them, this should protect strategic bombers from drones
This doesn't seem to be just a single occurrence. In this satellite imagery, it seems the russians are still in the process of fitting tires onto the bomber – a fresh, budget-friendly version of ERA substitute for the russian air force?
https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302027552436366
I don't see how this will help in the slightest, but it will take an eternity to prep the bomber for flight now.
The drone will bounce off, obviously. It's like a trampoline. In fact, why didn't they install trampolines all over?
'cope' cages are used by both sides
there is a large difference between the cope cages of 2022 fitted by Rusmorons to protect against top-attack ATGM and the anti-drone nets/tents designed to capture a lancet
fucking retard
>i-it's different!
sure, and next you'll claim they were never called 'cope' cages except by ruzzian trolls
ok buddy whatever you want to believe to help you sleep at night
>take my copejecture seriously, or else YOU are the one coping
I never considered them 'cope' cages, never assumed I know better then people on the ground, or what their intentions were, so I do not have to do the silly dance you're in now
>actually the russians knew they were going to come up against fpv drones with rpg warheads 500+ days into the special denazifying operation!
>they totally didn't slap them on at the very start of the invasion in anticipation of javelins and nlaws, which were actually employed by ukie forces at day 0 of the special cumchugging operation
>>they totally didn't slap them on at the very start of the invasion
Ackchually they did that a few years prior and stated explicitly that the top cover grill was for protection against top attack munitions.
Not necessarily javelins but RPGs launched from a rooftop/upper floor in urban warfare. It just took them nearly 20 years to come up with a solution to the clusterfuck of the chechen war.
Didn't see widespread adoption until the preparation of the invasion in Ukraine because who knows. And even then it was more of a stopgap measure that had to be applied by the individual units.
We're all impressed with you for considering yourself less intelligent than the average vatnik. This is kind of embarrassing to ask so publicly...but could I suck your cock? It's just that you're so self assured in your own ignorance it's kind of sexy :3
AFAIK it originated here on PrepHole and we were lulzing and high-fiving when it was picked up by real news outlets and made it into Wikipedia as official terminology.
And yes, the anti-Lancet netting that Ukraine is putting up *is* different, as evidenced by the fact that it actually works, unlike the vatnik grills.
>evidenced
>actually works
you use objective language, but you go off of nothing but assumptions, rumors and wishful thinking
I'm not assuming it's retarded out of bias, yes
>jeet
I'm Polish
are you American?
>but you go off of nothing but proven facts
FTFY, retarded ziglet.
>I'm Polish
Sure you are, pidor.
I can remember one more instance of the cope implement from my army reserve training.
Our CRBN instructor told us that "neutron weapon" (that being ERW nukes) effects could be mitigated by.... full-body coat made of soft PE film. Like the cheapest chinese raincoats you'd see around now, but in soviet times these were supposed to be CRBN use only.
The explanation was outlandish but scientifically accurate - "Comrade Soldat, heavy neutrons would go bouncy-bouncy and become tangled up in the soft elastic strands of polyethylene due to abundance of hydrogen atoms! Don this coat on and you'll be alright."
That was the most ridiculous take I've heard on concept of elastic scattering of fast neutrons by light nuclei interaction by 50 micrometer thin film in the fucking vicinity of the nuke going off.
I imagined how I'd be dying in an unspeakable pain in my stomach, vomiting foamy blood on this ridiculously stupid and jolly bright blue cape with inky OTK acceptance stamped over a sleeve. "This must be a trick to make us go a few hundred yards more instead of just curling up and succumbing".
This was the first time I've met a cope implement - the COPE CAPE.
>>it's different!
Yes. This is the factual, proven truth of the matter and no amount of you trying to deny it or make fun of it will change that fact. Deal with it, zigger subhuman.
wdym just start flying and the tires will fall off
>Engines suck up a tire
Russian engines are designed to eat tires rocks and the occasional technician as a treat you NAFO chud
TU-95 is propeller driven.
The Tu-95 has a propeller but it's driven by a gas turbine, not a piston engine, bird (or tire) ingestion would still wreck it
I’d be less worried about engine ingestion and more worried about what would happen to a prop spinning at high RPM when it hits a tire.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90
even some shitty ice that kind of follows the airfoil can cause such a decrease in lift and weight to not allow a takeoff.
also consider that even if you manage to takeoff the entire runway will be littered with tires.
i don't really understand why they would ever do something so retarded unless that aircraft isn't ment to fly but just stand there just in case.
worth noting that they only covered the fuel tanks
Flight?
>I don't see how this will help in the slightest
I suspect the idea is that the planes are being damaged by shrapnel (this is why it doesn't show up very well on satellites, which let some pajeets pretend the planes were undamaged) and the tires are meant to absorb it. I don't know whether that would work or not and I suspect it doesn't, but I think it's the general idea.
Anyways it's confirmation that the paper airplane strikes are working.
Have you never played Donkey Kong? The explosives will bounce off.
What happens when it rains and the fuselage takes way more stress than expected?
That much weight won't matter but dragging tires is unkind to skin beneath them. Using tires shows their sortie rate is as bad as I expected based on Russia non-performance. They can't generate sorties so why not stack tires on their "static display"?
It's just Zeus showing his support for Ukraine.
Fascinating thanks op, just a thought in western Europe tires are used to hold down plastic sheeting for silage cattle feed to stop the win catching the plastic and tearing it off,...could this be something similar as opposed to anti -drone (its still very bad for Russia, obviously as it would mean the aircraft was defective and prone to wind damage). Would it help the aircraft survive higher winds for instance by ruining the wings lift profile? Or is it stopping some form of temporary sheeting getting torn off by wind?
>Fascinating thanks op, just a thought in western Europe tires are used to hold down plastic sheeting for silage cattle feed to stop the wind catching the plastic and tearing it off,.
fixed
>tires are used to hold down plastic sheeting for silage cattle feed to stop the wind catching the plastic and tearing it off,.
pic realted
>Would it help the aircraft survive higher winds for instance by ruining the wings lift profile? Or is it stopping some form of temporary sheeting getting torn off by wind?
If damage is the reason for it than probably the latter, and to prevent the ingress of water into the wings (fuel tanks, if they are in the wings) and fuselage to prevent further damage from it.
On the pictures it doesn't look like there is anything like a tarp or similar underneath the tires, so I doubt that's the reason.
I'm no expert on how stacking shit on top of the wings affects lift, but unless they're expecting really strong winds (storm winds up to hurricane strength) further damage from wind to the wings should not be their primary concern. The forces they experience during flight are a lot higher - and if the wing is damaged enough that the usual winds would be a real danger loading them with a static load sounds like a bad idea.
The only thing that makes sense to me is they are holding down a plastic like sheeting covering holes in the aircraft, maybe as result of damage or cannibalising panels
If the wind is blowing hard enough to move or otherwise damage a Tu-95, you’ve got much, much, much bigger issues.
True, Thinking about it more I'm guessing
>
If damage is the reason for it than probably the latter, and to prevent the ingress of water into the wings (fuel tanks, if they are in the wings) and fuselage to prevent further damage from it.
On the pictures it doesn't look like there is anything like a tarp or similar underneath the tires, so I doubt that's the reason.
I'm no expert on how stacking shit on top of the wings affects lift, but unless they're expecting really strong winds (storm winds up to hurricane strength) further damage from wind to the wings should not be their primary concern. The forces they experience during flight are a lot higher - and if the wing is damaged enough that the usual winds would be a real danger loading them with a static load sounds like a bad idea.
>The only thing that makes sense to me is they are holding down a plastic like sheeting covering holes in the aircraft, maybe as result of damage or cannibalising panels
One way or the other the planes are out of action OR....they are hiding damage with sheeting I think that's the winrar and the tires are to hold sheeting down. If it was plastic sheeting roughly the same colour as the fuselage and wings and teh tires are just there to hold it down then its covering holes or damage and I'm guessing damage. These planes were damaged by drones and this is Russia trying to hide it,
what if those are inflatables and the tires help weigh them down and they are just decoys
Wouldn’t having a tire fire ignited on a plane be worse than a small grenade going pop?
Cool, now you drop a simple molotov cocktail and the whole thing will burn down.Good thinking.
They must be getting tired of drones blowing up their planes
My sides.
You fucker
Carlos you cheeky fuck
you bitch basterd!!1!
Fuck you Carlos
CARLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS
You fucker
>They must be getting tyred of drones blowing up their planes
Aaaah! Carlos!
Do you think they gonna retire these planes after an attack?
MOTHERFUCKER
Well, such budget military innovations truly are in russia's wheelhouse
Okay that's enough.
They would be nuts not to, but they probably have to rim the higher-ups to get anything done
Carlos! Right children we are off to Chechnya!
nice
Credit where credit's due. It's all so tiring.
I've had it with you, you little shit. I'm gonna sic ICE on your parents for this.
You fucking dirty Hispanic I am going to murder your whole family.
Fuck you Carlos.
Carlos!
You bloody bitch bastard! Do NOT redeem! DO NOT REDEEM!!
CARLOS
Carlos!
Well deserved (you)
It's not just paint then? I thought it was just a camouflage pattern in an attempt to trick optically targeted munitions
Interesting then why not on the wing tips.
Ah yes, putting easily flammable material on top of your bombers, what could go wrong?
But the drones only send a bit of shrapnel, right? Obviously it’ll go straight through a tire but it didn’t look likely to start fires
You could just give it a payload of gasoline, thermite or even napalm. Tires aren't super hard to ignite and the Russians may have just made it easier to absolutely destroy their strategic bombers.
why don't they just put up nets around it? also when was a tu95 last used in action?
>also when was a tu95 last used in action?
They use them every 3-4 days to do missile strikes.
Especially in winter, when every week was massive strike of 50-70 cruise missiles.
No they keep missiles until winter and rely more on submarine-launched Kalibr and old Kh-22 (launced from Tu-22M3)
Ovarall, Tu-95 is their primary strategic bomber and used to train crews everyday and do missile strikes every 3-4 days.
>No they keep missiles until winter
more like they ran out and now resort to once a month salvo of like 20 missiles lmao
Behold. Smelkalka.
Well yes, that's their production rate. 20 fucking missiles a month. FUCKING 20. This is all the 2nd army of the world can manage.
>Economy crashes
>Has not captured Mariupol
How frequently is the Tu-160 "Blackjack" used?
Not very often, I think the ziggers flew them once a few months ago. They only have like eight of them, and it's likely that only 3-4 are actually functioning.
A few years ago I remember Putin announcing they were going to build 8 more. I lulzed.
ziggers lost the blueprints to them
so they are basically reverse engineering shit
+ they lost technology to produce some some components
Russia lost the ability to do certain kinds of titanium alloy welding and machining, or they never could and it was done somewhere else in the USSR or Warsaw pact.. Someone correct me if I am wrong. While technical regression in Russia is obviously chronic and they are drifti8ng further towards sub Saharan Africa and deindustrialisation
(watch)
The loss of knowledge in manufacturing, agriculture even in teh west is quite acute. Even in programming there is a shortage of C and Cobol programmers, many modern programmers can only copy and paste old code and don't really understand what it does. Same with PrepHole knowledge like actual gunsmithing, machinists but also people who know how to work with cattle for example. A lot of people seem to think the internet brought an advance and it did but there was in parallel a huge loss in knowledge and atrophy of systems. Where this gets weird and a bit scary is that there are cities where people don't know how some of the traffic lights work or the sewer pumps. Civilisation is turning into a cargo cult. I know one city where all the public clocks have stopped and no one fixes them because there are know horologists for example. The USA is still flying teh B52 and we still have not gone back to the moon. yes Russia is utterly fucked and on teh sharp edge but there is a massive fall in intelligence and skills worldwide including the first world, even in technology areas.
That just gave me a boner
>loss of knowledge in manufacturing, agriculture even in teh west is quite acute
Nothing you said after this was correct in any way. What has happened is that populations have grown so large that knowledge is diluted at lower social levels so you get armies of halfwit Pakistanis that can repair a phone in minutes but have no idea how they actually work, and legions of downstream businesses buying machines from maker they don't really understand because they don't have to.
But no, there is no shortage or loss of knowledge and skills in any meaningful way. People still learn C++ and COBOL, and your clocks weren't repaired because nobody knew how, it's because the city wasn't able to pay someone enough money to do it
Add backwards all the way down
>teh
Ah yes, I too used to type "teh" instead of "the" back in the 2000's, It made me cool back then. I was L33t.
Don't have a cow man.
>used to train crews everyday
X to doubt
like 2 weeks ago? they use them regularly through the war.
They use them to lob cruise missiles from the safety of Russian airspaces. They don't go on actual bombing runs or anything.
I suppose the issue of removing and replacing the tires will be somewhat acceptable since they only produce 2 dozen cruise missiles every month and their war-time stock has been reduced to whatever they need to keep in stock for nuclear warheads, aka bottom of the barrel has been scraped three times over
Are those planes even capable of old fashioned bombing runs?
I tried to find out if Russia had any planes that could do that nowadays but didn’t find the answer in 10 seconds on bing
What do you understand under a traditional bombing run?
High precision strikes? In principle, the threshold for "high precision" needs to be defined.
Just dropping bombs with the intention of hitting the ground? Yes.
I didn’t know if they could drop dumb bombs or if they were only for missiles, when I searched I only found out about missiles it could carry
Oh yeah, they can do that. They were/are the equivalent of the B52 and designed to be capable of delivering nuclear bombs.
They were used to lob ballistic and cruise missiles into Ukraine because they can carry a lot of them, especially when compared to fighters.
Are those planes even capable of old fashioned bombing runs?
I tried to find out if Russia had any planes that could do that nowadays but didn’t find the answer in 10 seconds on bing and gave up
I thought this didn’t get posted the first time because my connection is terrible
Guys, I'm sure they have run simulations.
The West put tires on their planes too, idiot.
How can fascist NATO trannies even cope with it?
k e k
No, this is likely not as a means of kinetic protection. This actually is a tactic that has been used before to conceal thermal signatures. Metal objects in the sun will heat up faster than the ground beneath them, and that is enough to make them stick out on thermal imagers. The Serbs did this with some of their vehicles when they were getting bombed to hell, and it did have an impact. Obviously this only works at night, but most bombings happen under the cover of night.
It might mess with image recognition software as well.
Ah well I know we can get good enough position data from satelites to figure it out, good effort though.
>It might mess with image recognition software as well.
LOLNO
I've dabbled in image processing since CS grad school decades ago. Tires, hmm, YES IVAN TIRES WILL ABSOLUTELY WORK BEST TO PROTECT AIRPLANE PLEASE BURY AIRFRAME IN MORE TIRE. IS FANTASTIC IDEA.
>Metal objects in the sun will heat up faster than the ground beneath them, and that is enough to make them stick out on thermal imagers.
So black tires will be cooler?
Truthfully it's more about re-radiation than being warmer than background but anon is mostly right.
>le thermal smekalka guize!1!
Eternal cope
the russians dont park the TU's anywhere close to drone range. its more likely what said, or some kind of environmental protection
>the russians dont park the TU's anywhere close to drone range.
That specific airbase has been repeatedly attacked by drones.
https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-drone-attack-hits-russias-engels-airbase-for-second-time-in-a-month/
>gray aluminum plane shows up too bright at night
>cover it with black tires that will stay warm for longer
While metal heats up faster than the earth/tarmac/whatever around it, it also cools down faster. It's similar to the windshield of a car and why frost accumulates on it.
They cold be trying to mitigate this. But they chose the most retarded way to do it and it won't have the desired result.
>The Serbs did this with some of their vehicles when they were getting bombed to hell, and it did have an impact.
Gonna need a source
MAYBE it could have worked against older gen thermals, but there's no way they can reliably fool the precision of current third gen thermals. It's kind of shocking how slavs seem to assume Western engineers haven't even considered the possibility of thermal signature masking.
These engineers haven't considered double stacked mines (they are haram those stacks) when they developed their minesweepers
>THERMAL SIGNATURE
moron it’s a 500’ long plane parked in the open. You can see it from space. What the fuck causes retards like you to say this shit? What’s in it for you? Do you like being called a dumb moron? Did you think we would praise you for this verbal diarrhea? Get the fuck off of my website
its a good thing russians are incapable of feeling embarrassment
But tires have holes in them? What is the point?
Thank God they're too stupid to just park them on the other side of Russia while they still have strategic bombers.
cope tires
Behold! the latest top secret NATO technology its enemies can not even dream to reverse engineer and imitate. It can shield a plane from any drone (and keeps it dry, to boot)
I mean, we've got shitloads of aircraft, even military ones, sitting out in the open allatime.
Remember that hurricane that hit Florida maybe 3 or so years ago, where they failed to evac a bunch of F-22's? I remember a news photo of one aircraft parked upside down afterwards. Some ARFCOM supercommando type insisted that it didn't matter since all the planes there were old worn-out ones used for training and they belonged in a scrapheap anyway.
>Flipped over
Bullshit. The USAF actually scrambled base inventory into the hangars for the grounded airframes. The hangars did take an insane amount of damage and some of the F-22s likely got whacked by debris which required repairs afterwards.
Clearly hangars don't work, so why bother? A few tires from the dump would have been cheaper.
(You) wanted that with that bait didn't you? Hurricanes would tear apart whatever remained of the Russian air force.
Hangarbros, I am demoralized. We should stop building structures to house military and civilian aircraft. If they are built properly, they can withstand water and wind without copegarages. My tax dollars should be going to healthcare and border protection instead of the hangar industry.
this technology is known in Russia, but found to be ineffective
they did not build it out of superior nato wundersteel
God, that's depressing.
Russia in a nutshell
F
My roof must be ineffective too, it's clearly leaking.
Warcrime.
Damn you to hell.
>t. prebuilt steel building salesman
Retreating and losing men at a 5:1 ratio while being on the defensive is now winning. Get the fuck off the board.
youre welcome, shoigu
Unknown technology, blyat
>Unknown technology, blyat
pic rel is unicorn powered rainbows
> cardboard pallet
>pallet
>but cardboard
I KNEEL
This is dogshit and I would shoot anyone bringing me this as a substitute for wooden pallets.
Define winning jeet
He means he's still getting paid.
Given how labor intensive this procedure seems to be my guess is they don't want (rather can't) to use these planes to the extend that we have seen in the past.
Or they just do something to report they have done something, that it didn't work wasn't their fault, nothing more could have been done.
Trying to fool image recognition would not work, increasing the contrast with the surrounding area is the opposite of what you want to do, unless you create new patterns that disrupt the existing ones (a little like dazzle camouflage in WW2).
And thermal imaging has come a long way since the 90s, adding tires on top of your plane will show up as a plane with tires on top instead of a plane.
>And thermal imaging has come a long way since the 90s, adding tires on top of your plane will show up as a plane with tires on top instead of a plane.
Exactly. And image recognition software is not trained on this shit, so AI drone swarms will simply ignore what they think is a pile of trash. Maskirovka, you stupid westoid.
Why would I put some kind of AI on a drone that only needs a simple image recognition algorithm (which have been capable of doing this exact shit since the 70s)?
AI can improve the capabilities of (semi)autonomous drones, but it's not a new capability that was completely unthinkable up until a few years back.
Not every shitty idea needs AI to be put into a real world application.
unknown technology блядь
Xaxaxxa dumb ameripigs put giant cope-cages around their airplanes, no wonder they dont dare send them to the ukraine
Not sure it would stop these drones honestly unless they have front and back covers
NATO uses hardened versions, the tab-vee. Drone proof. Can't be stolen once constructed.
Elon won’t notice you. And stop fetishizing farts
I like how jeets will never deny being one.
Nah it's just pointless because you cultist will demand that I post my hand for the 20th time then youll get all pissed off that I don't care what @gayguy has to say about Ukraine
>twitter screencaps
>video game footage from 2007
But enough about Russia
How about this: Get a bunch of scrap metal, a welder, some tarps and tell Vasily to start welding up a hangar.
Piling trash upon your priced strategic bombers is neither smart nor effective, at best it's the admission your bombers are just that: a pile of trash.
What the FUCK is an open hanger supposed to do against drones? At the very minimum they need to be rigid installations with doors and that’s not something a guy with some scrap metal can do even if he had the building skills. The commander, or service chief or whoever showed some fucking INITIATIVE and DID SOMETHING to mitigate the risk even just by a little bit. That’s a positive thing, not something worth mocking unless you’re a teenaged girl giggling at the loser guy in glass. What goes through you peoples’ minds?
It's absolutely deserving of mocking. This is the self declared 2nd army of the world. They're reduced to tossing tires on their strategic bombers to prevent fuckin Ukraine from destroying them with cardboard drones. It's a fucking embarrassement.
TOTAL
ZIGGER
DEATH
>Ukrainian lives are irrelevant
been saying that for ages
Are you one of those people that don't function if they aren't praised for every fart they pushed out of their prolapsed asshole?
An open hangar provides protection by concealing the plane and adding difficulty to simple drops of small ammunition. Either the drone has to enter the hangar or the payload has to be made up of bigger grenades/bombs.
Even if you can "just fly into the hangar" the area that has to be observed drastically reduces and makes the plane easier to defend.
Throwing some old tires on top of the plane achieves noting. Neither is the plane concealed nor is is better protected against explosions or shrapnel. Covering 20% of the surface in rubber still leaves 80% uncovered and the 20% that are covered will not protect against shrapnel.
It's pure actionism and every reaction that is not mockery is self delusional. Have some self respect and don't engage in that. Otherwise you will be seen as a bigger idiot than the commander who has shown this fine example of "initiative" and "mitigat[ing] the risk even just a tiny little bit".
They would have been better off use if tarps
>ATLEAST THEY DID SOMETHING OK?
>IT DOESN'T WORK AND IS RIDICULOUSLY STUPID BUT DON'T DO OF MOCKING GLORIOUS SOVIET HERO IMPROVISING CRAFTY OF SOLUTION IN SITUATION OF NEED
go fuck yourself
>On the defensive in their own invasion
>Airbases in Russia getting bombed regularly
>Winning
Third-worlder take.
Winning is when you control the least territory since the start of your invasion dumb HATOid
This isn't improvisation this is just fucking stupid.
>process of fitting tires onto the bomber
>The bombings in Russia are a Twitter hoax
Holy cow-piss-drinking cope, Rajesh.
Moskva, Hostomel and Kherson are all twitter lies
The entire war is fake. Russia is winning by tricking Ukraine into fighting enemies that aren’t even there so they just blow up their own country
ukrops have psyopped russian airmen so much that they have put tires on their tu95s as reaction to faked drone videos
clearly this is a much more believable explanation than hohols actually droning the russian airbases
>w-well we aren't spamming the board right now
See picrel and https://desuarchive.org/k/search/image/Zx8QUQElkxMDBq0hQhA8bA/
>Nooooooo, your source is no real source because I say soooooo
Sir, please step away from the keyboard, you are an embarrassment to a whole subcontinent.
the simpsons springfields eternal tire fire when? its not that tires, made of raw petroleum oil, burn exactly bad, isnt it? or is that some kind if special material?
>Let's protect a bomber with hot-burning rubber
I just can't even with this war anymore.
>jumping over that with the rocket car in simpsons hit&run
take me back bros, i made a lot of mistakes and i want to try again
It's easy to emulate, at least the GameCube version.
There's also an old PC port, no idea what that's like.
Either way anon, you know what you must do
>take me back bros, i made a lot of mistakes and i want to try again
So they're finally catching up to the Navy?
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I was going to post this. Thanks for getting it for me, Anon.
I came here to post this, I can't believe how much of a laughing stock the russians have become
oпa!
aren't tires really flammable?
wouldn't it make it worse?
They also burn really hot and for a very long time. You pretty much ensure total destruction of a plane if any ONE of these tires catches fire.
Russia, please. This should not be difficult. There's a lumber yard 5 minutes down the road. Go there, get the longest poles you can (or join a couple together), auger a few holes for those poles and string some mesh between them. It'll be shit but it might do something
>pallets
>in Russia
Fake news fake image.
Russia has pallets. They just don’t use them in the military for some bizarre reason
Two ways to do logistics. One is pallets and the other has a name but I can't remember it. Basically pallets can't use the total volume of whatever you're using for transport since you need to be able to get the pallets in and out. However it's much easier to track pallets and just use more transport vehicles.
The other method transports more items per vehicle but requires a fuck load of men to move shit in a timely manner. The Russian army being the way it is, makes it obvious why they'd pick this method.
Pallets have another, really big advantage: (Un)Loading speed.
You don't necessarily need more vehicles since the ones you use have a shorter turnaround time which increases the long term capacity.
It's called manual labor
Imagine having to unload a truck of ammo crates or cans by hand
palettes too valuable for military, some cleptocrat is embezzling them for his private estate
Hey, stop leaking secret HATO technology to ziggers
The poles are busy being used to discipline the mobiks
or point/beat unknown technology
checked
Maybe these are the OEM tires that were supposed to be on the invasion vehicles (and were replaced with black market chinese knockoffs).
> time is a flat circle
> so is that last little bit of vodka in the bottle
The jeet continues to defend putting FUCKING TIRES ON THE STRATEGIC BOMBER.
I know exactly what happened here. The MoD probably set aside a bunch of money to keep the planes safe. Maybe even hangar money. It being glorious rossiya that money was pocketed and spend shortly. Now they have nothing to work with except old tires they stole from the nearby dump
>if I keep pretending to be le based rational centrist it's not a bad faith attempt at memoryholing!
also not even the same guy. I'm telling you to have a nice day out of free will after observing your shitty posts
>n-no YOU'RE mad
i'm not the one creating a new narrative about the purpose of the original cope cages anon, most of those had such wide gaps that grenades easily went through, they were very clearly not meant for that.
>creating a new narrative
lol, because the 'old' narrative is so respectable
literal npc mindset
its pretty simple
cope cage - doesnt work
lancet net - does work
Pretty embarrassing that a fishnet stops lancets tbh senpai
actually it is
>if rus, a cope cage
>else, ingenious innovation
Yeah, idk. Why doesn't everyone appreciate russian ingenuity? Is this a way to treat a world superpower?
not what I meant, and you know it
fight your strawmen without bothering me
Might have something to do with Russia being insufferable about it for decades and now proven wrong and shit on many fronts, so shitting on ziggers is cathartic.
yes, cargo cults are generally incapable of innovation. That's precisely why we make fun of your shithole.
>yes, being a braindead partisan is a good thing, actually!
retard
>you're russian
I'm Polish
>partisan
do you think I have a political dog in this fight? I legitimately enjoy laughing at Russia's desperate attempts to counter western technology from before I was born. how they do that and what we call it is unimportant in the grand scheme. If you don't like the term "cope cage", perhaps we should point out how they are the equivalent of putting a screen door on a submarine? that might make more sense to a pole.
>not partisan, then some pointless babble
partisan, primarily in the sense of putting preconceived notions first
that's a retarded point
Yes. It's praiseworthy if it was done by small nation like Serbia or Ukraine. Not by a self-proclaimed superpower.
Might actually not be a bad idea, it could help stop smaller ordinances.
The idea is that the plane will be difficult for a drone to recognise as they use pattern matching to strike targets. They probably could have just built a temporary hangar instead but they really are just plane stupid.
Subtle, very subtle anon
Imagine the smoke from a jetfuel+tire fire.
Budanov will be able to observe the smoke from Kyiv
Russia will start aiming at Ukrainian airfields?
>Russia will start aiming at Ukrainian airfields?
> Russia
> aiming
>Imagine PrepHole reaction when ukris does the same with f-16
You mean this?
That's so strange even russians themselves can't wrap their heads around.
>NATO is in shock. As usual.
Yes they are. Just not for the right reasons.
i can imagine glowies howling 24/7 looking at all the shit russia has been pulling
Can we get a better translation anon, I can't read this prose. I think he's saying that the air commanders are trying to do something and NATO is confused by the retardation of putting tires on bomber wings.
>I think he's saying that the air commanders are trying to do something and NATO is confused by the retardation of putting tires on bomber wings
Well, you're absolutely right. He uses really verbose language to describe it, tho.
Basically, he's saying that because they are only allowed to use sandbags and build proper hangers when they are actively at war, and not engaged in a Special Military Operation, when the higher ups demanded that the aircraft be better protected, they looked around for what free trash was available to comply with that order without disobeying the first one.
The Russian desire to save face has fucked them over once again.
>they are only allowed to use sandbags and build proper hangers when they are actively at war
But why? That is nonsensical in every way you can look at it.
He implies that the people who should be handling these things are not being seriously punished for failing to do their job.
Peacetime regulations allow the base commander to keep these planes under open sky, so he won't suffer any serious repercussions if planes get destroyed because he did everything by the book.
So to build hangars would not be strictly forbidden, it "just" needs some initiative from the base commander? Something that won't be found in Russia, I guess. The last 100 odd years made sure of that.
Thanks for the insight/answer.
Yes, "strictly forbidden" is a mistranslation.
The original phrase means something like "it hasn't been ordered" in this context.
>this is retarded
>seems that the higher ups demanded "do something to protect the planes", and the base command did something just so they can report the order is executed, without a care if it will actually help
>(satiric) the plan here is to confuse Ukrainian drone operators and give guards time to locate and kill them as they are trying to contact their NATO command and ask wtf is that unknown technology
>nothing else can be expected as long as we fighting pretend-war, [as wartime regulations are not being enforced so command can do dumb shit with no real repercussions]
Oh yeah, and the mixing part is basically
>they are throwing shit at the wall to see if it sticks
>not allowed to build shelter for planes because WE ARENT AT WAR
What's the tactical advantage of pretending you aren't at war while your planes are being bombed on your own soil?
Based russians inventing chemistry for the first time.
did you know that russia is so big it even has chemistry?
>did you know that russia is so big it even has chemistry?
I already know about krokodil
NATO shocked
Muscovite rocked!
>they demanded to do something and report back
>something was done and reported. everyone is happy.
fucking kek
Wouldn't tires just be more fuel for whatever fire is started in an attack? A soppy, hard to put out fuel that would drip into crevices and cracks, spreading even more fire?
Can't say for sure is it smart or retarded. Cardboard drones use small fragments so in theory they could protect tanks with tires
Except tires tend to have this gigantic hole in the center of them where the shrapnel can just pass straight through. It makes no sense to be used as kinetic protection.
next week they'll put tires vertically instead
how tf are tires going to save your ass when this goes off above it?
Oh that's fucking beautiful.
Verification not required
How do they remove the tires? What happens if the bomber has to take off on short notice? Do the tires just slide off and litter the runway? What happens if a plane has to make a landing but the runway is still covered in tires?
One problem at a time Ivan, one problem at a time.
sshhh don't worry about it whenever that happens it will be someone else problem.
and they will get shot for it.
Irrelevant questions. The jet fuel for those planes was sold on the black market months ago.
I mean, dazzle camo is an effective thing, it's just that Vatnigs are retarded. They managed to find the worst way of doing this.
I personally blame Russian women; they drink while pregnant, y'know...
it isn't dazzle camo it's tires in an attempt to create cheap ablative armor for the planes.
now to their credit this should work, if you just ignore all the new problems this creates.
>dazzle camo is an effective thing
If your capabilities for target acquisition completely rely on visual observation under anything else than perfect conditions yes.
But the reason it vanished with the appearance of radar is that it became useless overnight. Radar doesn't care about optical indicators to get info about distance, speed and direction of movement.
It's a shame, it looked really good.
Famous Russian telegram channel Fighterbomber just revealed the secret strategy behind this unparalleled innovation: https://t.me/fighter_bomber/13869
>There's this thing in science. I don't remember its exact name, but the idea is that a group of scientists randomly mixes various ingredients in the hope of creating previously unknown substances in science. For the sake of world peace, of course.
>
>I think the tires on the Tu-95s are from this series. Let's slap them together and see what will happen. Especially since the tires are free and there's a lot of them. The higher-ups will ask 'Have you taken any measures there?' We'll reply, 'Affirmative! Measures taken, commander! Enhanced amplification of armor-piercing and stealthiness for the bombers.' And at the very least, the drone operator will get mind-blown in awe try to consult with HATO about what the heck this is, our guard duty will take him captive with a knife bayonet.
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>And I don't have any other assumptions about why the fuck this was done. And my imagination is quite great. The higher-ups demanded something to be done and report about it. And we'll, something was done and then reported. Everyone is satisfied. NATO is shocked. As usually. And we "enjoy" the views of the tires from satellites.
>And at the very least, the drone operator will get mind-blown in awe try to consult with HATO about what the heck this is, our guard duty will take him captive with a knife bayonet.
They're literally hoping that NATO is so confused by their retardation it allows them to perform offensive actions.
uh oh, anon i think you might be a bit rarted yourself
Kek he's a funny vatmoron I'll give him that
>And at the very least, the drone operator will get mind-blown in awe try to consult with HATO about what the heck this is, our guard duty will take him captive with a knife bayonet.
Man, vatniks just can't get their heads around drone warfare, can they?
>Especially since the tires are free and there's a lot of them.
Goes to show you how "good" waste management is in Russia.
>how "good" waste management is in Russia
Wouldn't be too proud of that.
The Seattle area -- mother church of green and recycling -- loads all of its garbage and recycling into big container trucks and over-the-road hauls it (via diesel trucks) to central Oregon where the garbage and recycling is buried on "sacred" tribal land.
But they keep the facade of "separate your garbage and recycling" because they charge more for larger garbage cans.
The only thing that's semi-reclaimed is yard waste, which is shipped via diesel truck to a place in south King County where it's slowly turned into top soil (or whatever the fuck you call decomposed branches/clippings/soil).
t. Washington resident
Your metal cans get recycled, everything else goes to the landfill. The sorting is done with AI, compressed air cannons, and a magnet. Smashed aluminum cans get missed over half the time, don’t smash if you can avoid it.
>t waste management drone
maybe they are trying to disguise it as a tire.
Is the US even prepared to be able to prevent this kind of attack? The Chinks have a LOT of cheap drones, after all.
The Chinks also have a 3:1 tire advantage. I am becoming increasingly concerned about this tire gap. This could be a crisis if the Chinks can protect their hardware 300% more efficiently than us.
I know I've said this many times already, but it still amazes me that we were afraid of these "people" for over 5 decades. I thought the remake of Red Dawn where the Norks invade was less believable than the original now I see how wrong I was.
Meh, this is just standard ruskie shit
Call me when their men start riding airplanes on the outside like they do with their steel shitcoffins. Then imma have a laugh
Back to the roots!
picrel
how do you call this?
cope layer?
cope dump?
cope tireyard?
Future tire fire
Russias do this all the time with their roofs. It's to keep the metal panels from blowing up as wins gets under them. You see it on Native American reservations a lot too actually, or in other parts of Eastern Europe.
So my guess is that they have issues, lack of proper maintenance, and are so throwing those on to keep shit from blowing off in storms. Since they do it at home, it's an obvious fix.
>machine that is made to fly through the air with wind whooshing past it
>but for some reason ground winds are too much for it
Yeah, if the rivets and screws are coming loose.
They have severe shortages of supplies and even moreso crews. First, we know that at least some contract airfield crews were given short infantry training courses and then sent to the front lines during the peak of the Russian troop crisis during the routs near Kharkiv. The ones that survived have likely been withdrawn, but some were captured and very likely some were killed or maimed.
Second, we know that ground crews and their equipment are being repurposed for refurbishing ground hardware because that's what Russia needs more of. So crews now have a lack of experience, skeleton staffing, and a lack of supplies. Moreover, they keep flying shit they didn't fly often to lob missiles, and so they're likely being asked to get them working without the shit they need to actually get them working well.
Makes more sense than anti-drone shit. It's an incredibly common thing to see in Eastern Europe and so it makes sense that someone who does that for their house defaults to that temporary fix because it is what they know.
Part of Russia's enduring problems are that they pushed off mobilization too long and used their trainers and support staff to hold trenches and lost a bunch of them.
It's to fix roof rumble/wind damage. If you have loose sheet metal the wind gets in and pulls more up.
Hot take: some officer did this knowing it looks retarded to embarrass his superiors after they repeatedly failed to provide him with useful camouflage or cover.
Basically, if the shit gets bombed, he will get fucked. So he wants to get resources to stop it. But the higher ups have to distribute scarce resources and production capabilities across many areas (and have some less to steal).
So the officer decides to do something retarded to make them lose face so that he doesn't later lose face in an attack and can get something better. Might even have been the one to post it on Twitter so that media picked it up (Newsweek did an article).
This sort of shit happens in all militaries but even more so with dysfunctional ones.