Yeah man all of that expert French intelligence. It's not like France essentially ridiculed the Bongs and Burgers for claiming that a Russian invasion of Ukraine was imminent or anything like that haha that's crazy the French obviously just have superipr intelligence
>There is a realistic possibility that as Russia replaces the destroyed system in Ukraine it will weaken its air defenses in other operational areas.
It's almost time to put the plan into action >kick Russia off the UNSC >declare them a rogue state >massive multinational coalition headed by the remaining members of the UNSC begins Operation Taiga Storm to dismantle the Russian nuclear arsenal.
Then we'll finally be able to focus on Cold War 2 in relative peace.
whyt do you goons point this out all the time? Like nobody on PrepHole can infer that defense intelligence is produced by governments. Or like everyone thought that "defence intelligence" is the name of a telegram channel?
The audacity of bongs to question russias surface to air capabilities. They aren’t perfect but coming the british, who have yet to make a single successful surface to air missile system, it’s laughable
how is intelligence "audacity"? Should they say "the russian air defence systems are doing really well against modern precision weapons and are not being destroyed"?
Weird that Poland just bought a $3.5bn system from UK then isn't and the Ukrainians are using the Bong Skyhawk system and the guy with the most air targets downed used the Starstreak.
It must be getting more and more difficult to write these considering nothing has changed for over a year now. >Russian attack stalls >Ukrainian counter attack stalls >Russian attack stalls >Ukrainian counter attack stalls >Russian attack stalls >Ukrainian counter attack stalls >Russian attack stalls >Ukrainian counter attack stalls >Russian attack stalls >Ukrainian counter attack stalls
> today some russians ran into a treeline and were evaporated by machine gun fire and drone dropped grenades > ukranirans attacked a russian tree line and made a 50 meter advance into russian territory > russians bombed the fuck out of some pointless town >ukrainians managed to wreck a small number of anti air assets
man its so fucking boring, ngl
when do you think it can change bros?
I hope F-16s will shake things up, maybe long range ATACMS too when it will finally arrive
F-16's won't do anything. They are just as easy to merk with long range SAMs, and whilst the AMRAAMs are an upgrade, Russia has equal tier weapons on offer. It's not gonna be a big game changer, just like the tanks weren't. They are better than T-72s, but they're still just tanks.
Not really. They're very agile so long range SAMs aren't as effective against them (this also applies to AA-8s that the Russians like to brag about), and AMRAAMs aren't just an "upgrade" that the Russians have "equal tier weapons" for, they're vastly superior.
this is dribble. Agility doesn't help with SAMs, what helps is maneuvering over large, fast, wide arcs that force the missiles to turn and bleed airspeed during their glide phase. Tight turns just slow you down and mke you easier to kill. The F-16 is no better than a MiG-29 in this regard, and it's just as visible on radar.
I assume you meant the R-73 rather than the R-60. Are the Ukies getting AIM-9X or just AIM-9Ls or Ms? If they're getting the X, then it's a better dogfighiting missile, but the R-73 is also a good missile, the Russians can also launch them off boresight, and if they are already merged it's really 50/50 and about who gets behind who. The Russian jets all have a higher instantaneous rate of turn to the F-16, and so might be able to launch first.
Regarding fox 3 missiles, the 120C is likely better than the R-77s, but not by an earth shattering margin, and it's outranged by the R-37. If the USA is going to give the Ukies the latest AMRAAM variants then you can disregard a lot of that whilst I suck cocks.
C.W. Lemoine is a youtuber who used to fly the F-16, and he's had guests that did virtual dogfights against relatively modern Flankers from Indonesia. They felt that the two jets were very similar in capability.
It's a big upgrade over a Mig-29A but it's merely on par with the latest flanker variants
1 month ago
Anonymous
You are fucking delusional holy shit. The R-77 barely exists and the R-37 has literally no maneuverability. The rest of your post is worthless garbage I won't bother writing a reply to.
Have a good day anon.
1 month ago
Anonymous
see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPWy-gYnQKM
Couldn't find the video, found this. This guy flies the hornet which is quite different to the F-16 but he said going up against the flanker was the hardest aerial fight he has had since dogfighting the F-22
US fighter pilots will tell you that the Flanker is a real threat.
You only make 2 points. The R-77 limited availability is fair. The R-73 having "no maneuverability" is completely retarded. You don't adddress anything else, but if you read any declassified flight manuals from any airforce you'll see that what I'm saying about manueverability and defeating missiles is true. Defensive breaks and cranks whilst maintianing high airspeed is key, and the MiG-29 can accelerate just as good as an f-16.
The instantaneous turn rate of the flanker is better than the F-16 also, this is still true
1 month ago
Anonymous
my bad, the R-37 is an awacs killer. Still, it will force the f-16 to go defensive over and over
1 month ago
Anonymous
These things would only be a threat if Russia had a functioning air force. They don't have the frames, the pilots or the doctrine. The West has complete and uncontested air superiority everywhere. No question of it, even in a proxy war.
The only thing that matters about the Russian Air Force is whether they choose to die in the air or on the ground.
Couldn't find the video, found this. This guy flies the hornet which is quite different to the F-16 but he said going up against the flanker was the hardest aerial fight he has had since dogfighting the F-22
A few planes aren't going to win air superiority, but at least they will have more and more capable platforms to launch HARMS and western cruise missiles.
It's one in many necessary steps to assure maxium zigger destruction.
The F-16s are just to supplement the Su-27s and MiG-29s the Ukrainians lost over the course of the war. They have superior capabilities, including much better SEAD capabilities, but that's not going to enable them to knock out the entire Russian IADS. At the end of the day even if they do so, they can't conduct deep strikes into Russia as they'll be way too outnumbered by Russian fighters to be able to establish local numerical superiority and with the fights needed.
You'd think that with everything stalled like this it would be the perfect time to give a few large military aid packages to Ukraine to speed things up.
Russia has a lot of air defences because it assumed NATO would have a lot of air assets. Ukraine is going to have to destroy a lot more before F-16's can fly relatively safely. F-16's should be used purely for long range munition strikes.
Time to nuke Russia then
t.bingbong
I need a decode.
Decoding complete
2/10 missed Air Defense Systems decoding as Ai D S
>translated to Russian
>Bong
Meh, I prefer more reliable intel agencies like he French. It’s less propaganda.
Yeah, this one is funded by the biritsh government, it's government funded propaganda.
>Funded by the government
I'd bloody well hope the Ministry of Defence was funded by the government, considering it actually fucking is the government
That's the joke
Oh I see. Well carry on then.
>not privatizing their MoD
Bongs are wasting a perfectly good profiteering opportunity.
Yeah man all of that expert French intelligence. It's not like France essentially ridiculed the Bongs and Burgers for claiming that a Russian invasion of Ukraine was imminent or anything like that haha that's crazy the French obviously just have superipr intelligence
Huh, it seems like russians don't like the UK reports. And well russians don't like the truth.
I'm starting think post like yours are just mean to stir strife on this board.
Uh oh, will the gloves finally come off this time?
>There is a realistic possibility that as Russia replaces the destroyed system in Ukraine it will weaken its air defenses in other operational areas.
It's almost time to put the plan into action
>kick Russia off the UNSC
>declare them a rogue state
>massive multinational coalition headed by the remaining members of the UNSC begins Operation Taiga Storm to dismantle the Russian nuclear arsenal.
Then we'll finally be able to focus on Cold War 2 in relative peace.
>On 26 October 2023, Russian media reported that Russian sources reported in Russian.
Thanks anon, these never fail to squeeze a kek out of me
Lmao, are there more of these?
You’re kidding right?
Nah, I'm not in Ukraine threads often, was wondering if there were edits of previous updates
Every bong update has had multiple decodes. enjoy finding them.
lel
whyt do you goons point this out all the time? Like nobody on PrepHole can infer that defense intelligence is produced by governments. Or like everyone thought that "defence intelligence" is the name of a telegram channel?
It's a meme you dip
it's a joke about the vatniks screeching about how the BBC is state-funded in these threads.
>UK's Defense Intelligence report is government ran
LMAO do ziggers really think this isn't obvious?
exposed
The audacity of bongs to question russias surface to air capabilities. They aren’t perfect but coming the british, who have yet to make a single successful surface to air missile system, it’s laughable
how is intelligence "audacity"? Should they say "the russian air defence systems are doing really well against modern precision weapons and are not being destroyed"?
>Warriortard starts defending Russians
Many such cases.
don't you get tired of this, warriortard? do you not ever get tired of this weird gimmick
Weird that Poland just bought a $3.5bn system from UK then isn't and the Ukrainians are using the Bong Skyhawk system and the guy with the most air targets downed used the Starstreak.
Weird.
>guy with the most air targets downed used the Starstreak.
This is ghost of Kiev tier. Not one of those kills can be confirmed.
It was real in my mind
>In my mind
No its true your wife is a fat prostitute whoring herself on OF to make up for your shit job
What level of schizophrenic posting is this? What does it have to do with made up war stories? What do you think my job is. I have so many questions
Need a tissue m8?
>Makes no attempt to deny Wife is Fat a Prostitute or whoring herself on of
Bruh
>you don’t deny my schizo ramblings
>checkmate
you’re actually retarded
No cap?
It must be getting more and more difficult to write these considering nothing has changed for over a year now.
>Russian attack stalls
>Ukrainian counter attack stalls
>Russian attack stalls
>Ukrainian counter attack stalls
>Russian attack stalls
>Ukrainian counter attack stalls
>Russian attack stalls
>Ukrainian counter attack stalls
>Russian attack stalls
>Ukrainian counter attack stalls
> today some russians ran into a treeline and were evaporated by machine gun fire and drone dropped grenades
> ukranirans attacked a russian tree line and made a 50 meter advance into russian territory
> russians bombed the fuck out of some pointless town
>ukrainians managed to wreck a small number of anti air assets
This has been the last like 4 months
you forgot
>dozens of Russian armoured vehicles were caught in a field and obliterated by cluster munitions
man its so fucking boring, ngl
when do you think it can change bros?
I hope F-16s will shake things up, maybe long range ATACMS too when it will finally arrive
F-16's won't do anything. They are just as easy to merk with long range SAMs, and whilst the AMRAAMs are an upgrade, Russia has equal tier weapons on offer. It's not gonna be a big game changer, just like the tanks weren't. They are better than T-72s, but they're still just tanks.
Not really. They're very agile so long range SAMs aren't as effective against them (this also applies to AA-8s that the Russians like to brag about), and AMRAAMs aren't just an "upgrade" that the Russians have "equal tier weapons" for, they're vastly superior.
this is dribble. Agility doesn't help with SAMs, what helps is maneuvering over large, fast, wide arcs that force the missiles to turn and bleed airspeed during their glide phase. Tight turns just slow you down and mke you easier to kill. The F-16 is no better than a MiG-29 in this regard, and it's just as visible on radar.
I assume you meant the R-73 rather than the R-60. Are the Ukies getting AIM-9X or just AIM-9Ls or Ms? If they're getting the X, then it's a better dogfighiting missile, but the R-73 is also a good missile, the Russians can also launch them off boresight, and if they are already merged it's really 50/50 and about who gets behind who. The Russian jets all have a higher instantaneous rate of turn to the F-16, and so might be able to launch first.
Regarding fox 3 missiles, the 120C is likely better than the R-77s, but not by an earth shattering margin, and it's outranged by the R-37. If the USA is going to give the Ukies the latest AMRAAM variants then you can disregard a lot of that whilst I suck cocks.
C.W. Lemoine is a youtuber who used to fly the F-16, and he's had guests that did virtual dogfights against relatively modern Flankers from Indonesia. They felt that the two jets were very similar in capability.
It's a big upgrade over a Mig-29A but it's merely on par with the latest flanker variants
You are fucking delusional holy shit. The R-77 barely exists and the R-37 has literally no maneuverability. The rest of your post is worthless garbage I won't bother writing a reply to.
Have a good day anon.
see:
US fighter pilots will tell you that the Flanker is a real threat.
You only make 2 points. The R-77 limited availability is fair. The R-73 having "no maneuverability" is completely retarded. You don't adddress anything else, but if you read any declassified flight manuals from any airforce you'll see that what I'm saying about manueverability and defeating missiles is true. Defensive breaks and cranks whilst maintianing high airspeed is key, and the MiG-29 can accelerate just as good as an f-16.
The instantaneous turn rate of the flanker is better than the F-16 also, this is still true
my bad, the R-37 is an awacs killer. Still, it will force the f-16 to go defensive over and over
These things would only be a threat if Russia had a functioning air force. They don't have the frames, the pilots or the doctrine. The West has complete and uncontested air superiority everywhere. No question of it, even in a proxy war.
The only thing that matters about the Russian Air Force is whether they choose to die in the air or on the ground.
Couldn't find the video, found this. This guy flies the hornet which is quite different to the F-16 but he said going up against the flanker was the hardest aerial fight he has had since dogfighting the F-22
If/when the f16s arrive it'll turn out that the ukies are only getting 10 so they won't change shit either.
All F-16s are going to accomplish is allowing the Ukies to be a bit less timid about using their air force.
A few planes aren't going to win air superiority, but at least they will have more and more capable platforms to launch HARMS and western cruise missiles.
It's one in many necessary steps to assure maxium zigger destruction.
The F-16s are just to supplement the Su-27s and MiG-29s the Ukrainians lost over the course of the war. They have superior capabilities, including much better SEAD capabilities, but that's not going to enable them to knock out the entire Russian IADS. At the end of the day even if they do so, they can't conduct deep strikes into Russia as they'll be way too outnumbered by Russian fighters to be able to establish local numerical superiority and with the fights needed.
You'd think that with everything stalled like this it would be the perfect time to give a few large military aid packages to Ukraine to speed things up.
Even if western politicians decide to give more heavy equipment it'll still take months to show up
Sorry, goy, Israel stubbed it toe and now needs $50 billion in holocaust reparations. Ukraine will just have to wait its turn.
The UK did send some more stuff last month, but it was only mine clearing equipment and that new Skyhawk Paladin system.
These things a probably compiled by some unpaid intern that doesn't really care either way.
>four long face-to-Ass launchers
>Russia rect lool
Shit I fucked up the decryption. Here's the corrected version.
now thats what i call a solid decoding.
This is like the highbrow versus lowbrow decode
So Ukraine is slowly chipping away at russian air defense before they get F-16's(?) in there, guess they really want that air superiority
Russia has a lot of air defences because it assumed NATO would have a lot of air assets. Ukraine is going to have to destroy a lot more before F-16's can fly relatively safely. F-16's should be used purely for long range munition strikes.
>3 s-400 down
Ukraine is preparing for the upcoming F-16s.