bomb suits

so do these things actually work? i heard they do frick all against anything bigger than a pipe bomb and only server to keep enough of you intact to have a proper burial. i cant imagine the amount of mental fortitude required to do bomb disposal

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They won't protect against a direct blast, no. The idea is that if the bomb is about to go off, the guy in the suit can GTFO and be protected from the explosion at a distance + the shrapnel. And in the event it goes off while being defused, it's better to have the suit than nothing at all. You're not getting out unscathed though.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The idea is that if the bomb is about to go off, the guy in the suit can GTFO
      How nice of the bomb to signal that it's about to go off. How does it do this you think? Does it start to beep, slow at first, then faster and faster? Is there a timer attached to the bomb that conveniently counts down to 0, or a mobile phone that plays a full ringtone until it explodes?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bomb diffusors have the gene that lets them communicate with the bomb you wouldnt get it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How do you diffuse a bomb?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            get some essential oils and a bit of Kenny G playing on your iPod, then set up your diffuser...

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm trying to turn the bomb off not on anon.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stand in top of it, then looking at the bomb, press E

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Make sure you bought defuse kit at the start of the round or you're cooked
              Also don't forget to throw down your spray

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            just flip the off switch

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Spray it with coolant

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >diffuse
            by detonating it m8

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Buy picrel and you can find out

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They have a burning fuse that you can watch snake its way inside the black sphere that is the bomb. Once the flame gets inside theres a brief moment of tension before the boom. That’s when bomb defusers stop running away and look back, but the cool ones don’t.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can tell if a bomb can be defused before it potentially goes off, moron. If you inspect it and see that you can't, the suit is there to protect you if it goes off while you're leaving.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How do you tell if it's about to go off or not then? I patiently await your knowledgeable response with no reference to wikipedia

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's an artefact of the time. Bomb suits are from the 1970s-1980s when robots were rare are bombs were more often smaller things like blackpowder pipe bombs intended to scare the public than GWOT era 800lb IEDs.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They obviously have limits, but the effectiveness increases with even a tiny amount of distance. That means when trudging to and from being on top of a IED they will be useful. Pretty sure Med-Eng has at least a basic chart on their website, or at least they used to.
              In a stateside situation where the scene is entirely controlled, if somebody has to do a manual approach on some kind of device or IED and there's no articulatable reason not to wear one, obvs you wear one.
              If you're dealing with UXO somewhere you wouldn't normally wear one.
              In a deployed environment you won't even have one if you aren't working out of a truck. If you are working out of a truck, you may or may not wear it if the downsides overcome upsides. Down to individual commands, teams, and honestly how many eyeballs are on the situation.

              Bomb suits still have use stateside a lot. Robots are common but sometimes a robot just can't get to a funky, finnicky place. Robots are first resort, but if they can't do, use a bombsuit. There are still a good number of times to use a bombsuit. Dumbass kids with access to Anarhist cookbook much more often than some kind of legit spooky Hollywood terrorist.
              As explained above- for GWOT giant shit, no you don't usually wear a suit. It's a situational piece of gear, like all the other tools.
              t.GWOT era EOD guy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well basically it depends if your shithead teammate bought a defuse kit, otherwise it’s probably going to go off

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          im not buying that shit man

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ITS LIKE YOU WANT US TO FRICKING LOSE

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The bomb doesn't know when to explode, but when not to.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The light on top stops flashing green and starts flashing red.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even if it doesn’t save you from direct blast, any protection against shrapnel and other stuff would still be appreciated if I’m wearing the suit. Probably also acts as security theater, making the wearer feel a little more confident

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no protection for the hands and feet. this particular model is shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They won't protect against a direct blast, no. The idea is that if the bomb is about to go off, the guy in the suit can GTFO and be protected from the explosion at a distance + the shrapnel. And in the event it goes off while being defused, it's better to have the suit than nothing at all. You're not getting out unscathed though.

      It’s hard to render safe if you are wearing padded Kevlar gloves. And since you need to be mobile to do your job, even a bulky suit isn’t going to be a magic force field. No hand protection because you need them to do your job and you need to be able to walk so feet protection can’t be self defeating. (Bomb techs refer to their job as “the long walk”). It’s a calculated trade off, say goodbye to your hands but maybe survive a blast.

      The four threats to an EOD tech are fragmentation, over pressure, heat and impact. Some suits will have SCBA incorporated of its a CBRN threat. Most people who die from bombs are killed by the over pressure, your inner organs become Jell-O.

      Bomb suits are mix of ballistic material, hard plates and fire resistant material and have STANAG and NIJ standards.

      The best option is to render safe with a robot, which is just a 12 gauge blank firing a water blast to disrupt the circuitry. This leaves the now inert device intact for forensic purposes.

      The required elements to a bomb are an initiator, charge, power source, switch and container. A disruption of the power circuit is the equivalent of “cut the red wire”.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >power source, switch
        Those are only required for electrically activated devices. It can be done 100% chemically or mechanically with zero electricity at all. See things like "time pencils", A.C. delay, grenades, land mines...all activated by either time or mechanical motion of some kind.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah man, they do a lot. However, if you aren't given Med-eng suits, your bosses don't actually care if you die.

        This is written by an idiot who failed out of eod school, but still wants to talk about it like they know something of value.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anything interesting or useful to contribute about the topic?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Really that chapped about getting called out. Not only is most of your post factually wrong, It's just a disjointed mess of jargon and fun facts that's a transparent attempt to seem knowledgeable on something you know incredibly little about.
            >the long walk
            That isn't about mobility, as you assert. It's about nervousness and apprehension that comes from walking down on a bomb.
            >Most people who die from bombs are killed by the over pressure, your inner organs become Jell-O
            Again, wrong as frick. most people are killed by hemorrhage induced by fragmentation. Overpressure does not kill by "turning your organs to jello" It's primary wounding mechanism is to rupture the alveoli in the lungs and induce massive blood loss and destroy lung function.
            >which is just a 12 gauge blank firing a water blast to disrupt the circuitry
            That is one singular way to use a robot. Saying that that is the definition of an RSP is like saying "hiking is doing an uninterrupted trough hike of the PCT." It's such an incomplete and limited definition that saying it is wrong.
            >required elements to a bomb are an initiator, charge, power source, switch and container
            Another anon addressed this, so I'll just point out that, again, you're wrong.

            You know enough of the words that it shows you were taught them. However, you're so clueless on what those words mean that it's clear you've never actually done anything with them. Hence the assertion that you're a failed out.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anything interesting or useful to contribute about the topic?

              here

              NTA anon just someone genuinely interested in learning more.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That’s what I get for late night posting. You got me, I forgot about the alveoli. I remember seeing lots of pathology examples of those little guys.

              I never said that was the only way to use a robot. I didn’t get the assignment for a full treatise on the subject.
              Again, I’m not a failed out anything. I was one of the top responders in my former agency, which was good for around a hundreds of call outs. I did retire 9 years ago. Now let’s see yours.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you made this many frick ups, I can't imagine you were worth much as a bomb tech. I'm guessing you slept through that post blast class you took at Redstone if you're that empty headed on blast injuries.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong. What gay patch is that?

          >power source, switch
          Those are only required for electrically activated devices. It can be done 100% chemically or mechanically with zero electricity at all. See things like "time pencils", A.C. delay, grenades, land mines...all activated by either time or mechanical motion of some kind.

          Easy there Col. Von Stauffenberg

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think these are mostly around NIJ IIIA armor. They could probably be designed better by incorporating more hard armor elements and backing foam, like the SARVIP plates.

    They are likely to save you from a pistol shot or small explosion, but will not do much good against anything bigger.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      forgot to add, you WILL die of heatstroke before getting to your objective haha

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >so do these things actually work?
    yes

    >? i heard they do frick all against anything bigger than a pipe bomb and only server to keep enough of you intact to have a proper burial
    they are made to protect against specific threats, if it was designed to stop a bomb of X kilogram weight, then it will stop that
    they dont just slap on kevlar and call it a day, they define a size of bomb it is meant to protect against and design it so that the user will survive the encounter without being wheelchair bound for the rest of their lives

    so if a bomb is beyond the ability for a bomb suit to protect against, they wouldnt wear the bomb suit
    they wouldnt approach the bomb with a human at all

    actual military bomb suit specs are classified, but civilian testing standards for a bomb suit is a ballistic limit of a 3 gram projectile at 1100m/s or a 13gram projectile at 750 m/s for the thorax
    as well as requirements for thermal protection and blast protection, measured by how intact the interior of the suit is

    the use of a 3gr projectile at 1100m/s implies its meant to protect against bombs several times the size of a pipe bomb without long-term damage to the user
    since those are the velocities you might find from an unexploded artillery shell

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The woman is so small that her hands don't extend past her sleeves.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Women in any force related field was a huge mistake. Western militaries have become a giant welfare program.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They dont stop shit but they do make it convenient for the clean up crew when they can just pour your liquefied ass into a trash can

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bomb standard testing requires that the interior of the suit be in a survivable condition to pass testing

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What compels a man into EOD?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if the choice was 'go into EOD' or 'go to the frontlines', I would choose EOD in a second.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If bomb device is something like hand grenade, yes they can save life and health.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They sort of work. You're still at best going to be going to the hospital, but it's better than nothing. At a certain point with a large enough device though there's not much it'll do for you, by then it's more a psychological factor. Downgrading from 'mulched' to 'half your ribs are shattered and you've got five puncture wounds' isn't nothing.

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