Body Armour

I want to look into buying some body armour but have no idea what to even look for. I already checked and there are no restrictions in my state. What qualities and materials should I look for? I'm not looking for anything to stop a .50 bmg or anything ridiculous, but do want something that protects against most or all hand gun rounds and hopefully atleast a .270.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're like most of /k/ these days you're too fat, poor and nogunz to ever actually need a plate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymus

      I'm only a little over weight, have money and guns. Also what's the logic behind no guns? Even if I didn't have guns that doesn't mean I'm immune to being shot. What if I lived in Chicago, didn't carry but just didn't want to get shot by some moron robbing a gas station? Does it make you feel better about yourself when you put others down?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but yeah

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Instead of buying plates I would suggest leaving Chicago. If being shot at the gas station is a serious concern of yours, the optimal strategy would be to avoid the gas station. If you need gas for your car, get it at stations where there is no threat of being shot. If there are none in an area, move to another area. If the entire country is in a state of civil war, leave the country. It’s not that complicated.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymus

          You're being dumb on purpose right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, I am dead serious. If your place of residence is actually dangerous enough to warrant the wearing of body armor, you should leave that shithole yesterday. If it requires you moving to another continent, move. Even sub-saharan africans have figured that one out, it's not particularly complicated.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're being dumb on purpose right?

              First rule of the survivability onion. Don't be there in the first place lol

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ok well yeah but I'm not an onion so why does this apply?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fricking moron. It's a rule, that applies to armored vehicles. Don't be in a shitty situation to begin with and you won't need armor.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, I am dead serious. If your place of residence is actually dangerous enough to warrant the wearing of body armor, you should leave that shithole yesterday. If it requires you moving to another continent, move. Even sub-saharan africans have figured that one out, it's not particularly complicated.

          I think you're too glib about the challenges in changing between countries under those circumstances nor acknowledging the relative risk tradeoffs, but yeah in spirit this isn't unreasonable. If it's dangerous enough to NEED armor then the default should be to seriously work at leave. Though some people might also reasonably feel the need to stay due to family.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But yeah simple shit like "go outside of the city to fuel up" and so on is absolutely low hanging fruit. If that means 10 extra miles and associated travel time once in awhile just do it that's nothing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I have personally moved between countries, it's no big deal if you are a first world country citizen. If you have a shit passport, things are different. Still people with shit passports manage to walk several hundred to thousands of miles over multiple state borders and cross oceans to leave their shitholes. Without money or marketable skills.

            But yeah simple shit like "go outside of the city to fuel up" and so on is absolutely low hanging fruit. If that means 10 extra miles and associated travel time once in awhile just do it that's nothing.

            If the alternative is a realistic chance of getting shot, you would be majorly moronic not to take a 10 mile detour. If it's unrealistic but you still think you need to spend money on armor, better spend it on a shrink.
            If you are too lazy and/or stupid to move away from a place where your and your families lives are in danger, I don't know what to tell you.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        1. Learn the NIJ protection levels.
        2. Learn the different armor types (soft & hard, concealable / over-vest / plate carrier...)
        3. Determine what is your need, and look for best deals.

        Modern soft armor is seldom below level II these days, and that already is enough to stop anything from .22lr to .357 Magnum, and all the oddball threats like 12ga buckshot and grenade fragmentations. Level 2 vests are usually damn thin and lightweight to boot, not that 3-A would be THAT much thiccer.
        This is what you will most likely want and need as a civvie.

        For any sort of rifle, you need hard plates. Level III already covers most common threats, like 5.56 NATO and .308 Winchester. IV is for hardcore warfighter (tm) nutjobs, that indeed may expect to be hit by a .50 cal.

        I know that /k/unts shill you plate carriers, but I'd look into an ARMOR CARRIER instead.
        It's essentially a soft kevlar / dyneema vest, with pockets for optional hard plates and other accessories.
        This'll let ya easily tweak your armor to your current needs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >oddball threats like 12ga buckshot

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Im not the goyim you are replying to
            Most violence where a gun is used is commited with handguns, 22 lr /38 sp revolvers, hipoints , glocks ecc.
            Facing a longgun is a bit of an oddball,
            One of the reasons being: if a gasstation gunfighter brings a sawnoff (Concealement), that is extra prison time (NFA).
            Ar pistols are occasionally used but i do not know if they are counted as handguns or rifles in the statistics nor how common they are

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Only thing I'll add/reinforce other anons on is that and yeah this deserves all caps even more then usual CC HANDGUN LOGIC APPLIES: IT'S USELESS IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT ON YOU.

          Seriously. It's very easy to theorycraft and go all in on super expensive multifaceted armor. But while sure there are some material/cost differences, ultimately more protection takes more weight and bulk. If you live anywhere normal and plan to wear it around you need something you will actually fricking do so. Again this is the same as you CC. A full size full power tricked out handgun is definitely "more effective" and powerful then a ultra compact 380 or something, but realistically 97% of civvie defense encounters are <7yd against totally unarmored targets and if it's not comfortable for you to carry and you leave it at home then it's useless. Getting into such a situation is ultra low probability and by definition unpredictable, so the only way to be ready is to always be ready. And not make yourself a target either.

          So frankly I'd go for the most normal decent soft stuff that can deal with basic handgun rounds or stray fire that's a good distance away and has already hit a wall or something. Something that'll give you slightly better odds as you're reacting but that you will never hesitate to wear.

          Worth noting that chart though is just a high level guideline, load can shift things, and ultimately a lot of this is still probabilities, the angle it hits and where. Armor can boost your odds of surviving some but it's not a forcefield.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymus

        OP here. The only reply I've made is
        I should have known better than to ask /k/. Sometimes I forget that the only anons left are dedicated larpers.
        Thanks to

        A decent set of IIIA or III plates from a reputable dealer. If you're ballin on a budget, LAPG has some decent plates and carriers that work fine for budget IV plates, but they're thick and heavy AF. Given a budget, I could help point you in a right direction, but I'll give you some general pointers:

        Avoid steel for weight and spaulding. Even with good anti-spaulding coatings, it isn't as resistant as much more modern affordable Kevlar/Polyethylene plate options available.

        Buy from a reputable make. Most reputable makes would have sheets available on their website for their NIJ testing they did for the models. Usually some who sell "specialty grades" like III Special Threat or IIIA Ultra or some gay shit might have a set of armor that can perform, but without verifiable testing beyond "trust me bro" its a gamble.

        Look up the model plates you're planning on buying on Youtube and fast forward to the actual testing by non sponsored people. Its really hard with companies like Safelife who shill to basically every goytuber, but some are relatively impartial and have good, but long and rambling reviews.

        Sort out your budget, determine your threats and needs, and buy a set. Oh and lastly check the warranty and expiration of your plates, they do "expire" but its not like they immediately become sand after expiration.

        for giving the only legitimate reply.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Answer the question or frick off. Your reply has no point, just like the rest of your life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd argue everyone is equally delusional about needing plates. they will never change the short term outcome of any situation you'd use them in.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Check here, ask yourself first how often, and where you're realistically going to wear it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymus

      I specifically didn't ask or look into the gear larp thread because it's abundantly clear none of the people who made those guides have ever seen combat and are exclusively comparing esthetics.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A decent set of IIIA or III plates from a reputable dealer. If you're ballin on a budget, LAPG has some decent plates and carriers that work fine for budget IV plates, but they're thick and heavy AF. Given a budget, I could help point you in a right direction, but I'll give you some general pointers:

    Avoid steel for weight and spaulding. Even with good anti-spaulding coatings, it isn't as resistant as much more modern affordable Kevlar/Polyethylene plate options available.

    Buy from a reputable make. Most reputable makes would have sheets available on their website for their NIJ testing they did for the models. Usually some who sell "specialty grades" like III Special Threat or IIIA Ultra or some gay shit might have a set of armor that can perform, but without verifiable testing beyond "trust me bro" its a gamble.

    Look up the model plates you're planning on buying on Youtube and fast forward to the actual testing by non sponsored people. Its really hard with companies like Safelife who shill to basically every goytuber, but some are relatively impartial and have good, but long and rambling reviews.

    Sort out your budget, determine your threats and needs, and buy a set. Oh and lastly check the warranty and expiration of your plates, they do "expire" but its not like they immediately become sand after expiration.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Avoid steel for weight and spaulding.
      The word is spalling not spaulding lmao. And its the wrong term anyways. Its frag. Spalling is when the back face breaks off but morons keep repeating it anyways.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymus

    [...]

    More American than you bub. That's how I saw it spelled once when I was young and wasn't corrected for a long time, that's just how I spell it. Also, stay sad and pathetic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seethe bong you aren't fooling anyone spelling that shit Armour. Enjoy your deactivated guns and swords.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymus

        Your opinion has no value

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hate to tell you fella but that's how literally everyone outside the US spells it. That guy is more likely to be a Chinaman than a bong.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You have to do a quick measurement to see what size plate you need... Most people are a medium. Then you'll need a quality plate carrier, Crye Precision JPC is considered a baseline, but if I'm running plates I want something a little more robust, I have an Eagle I and Velocity Systems Scarab. When you get plates, find some NIJ IV certified multicurves from a reputable manufacturer... Never get steel plates, just get ceramics like a normal person.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >most or all hand gun rounds
    Good news, that's soft concealable territory so you might actually wear that once in a while, that goes extra for level 2 which covers everything you might actually get shot at with. Bear in mind NIJ doesn't cover stab ratings, you have to look for that specifically.
    >and hopefully at least a .270
    Okay, that's plate territory which is a completely different beast and .270 is no slouch. You're looking at level 4 there and you will never wear it outside LARPing or an actual war breaking out in your street.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All the advice in this thread is fricking moronic.
    If you are duty-bound to remain in Black personville, buy a concealable level IIIA vest first. Plates are for larping and civil unrest, you aren't wearing them when engaged in normal human activities.
    If you do buy plates later, invest in a good carrier and a set of level IV plates from a reputable company, like Hesco or Hoplite

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. I sell armor

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    crye LVS

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where can I get some good chainmail

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymus

      Make it yourself, it's not hard just time consuming. Good chainmail is going to cost you thousands where making it yourself is only hundreds.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Making good chainmail is a lot harder and more time consuming than it seems in the youtube videos. They have a jig already bought, made, and set up. They already have acquired decent galvanized wire to make the chainmail out of. They have already learned the skills and acquired the autistic patterns to do it for hours on end. They already know how to work with the dimensions and angles required. Honestly the most tedious part is riveting it which to be fair you don't NEED to do. I just did it because going unrivited in SCA means you're fixing your chainmail after nearly every bout.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymus

          I've personally made a coif, it's not that hard at all, it's literally just connecting rings, a 5 year old can figure it out. Yes it's time consuming but if you think it's hard to do then you are legitimately moronic.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did you buy the rings pre-cut or something? Spinning and clipping the wire is half the battle. I assume if you're just getting into it you're using a drill and rod jig with a pair of wire clippers. You'll end up getting crab claw if you're not used to using those muscles. Heck and this isn't even bringing up punching and pressing the rivets. Saying it isn't hard is a massive downplay of how hard it actually is.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymus

              >Saying it isn't hard is a massive downplay of how hard it actually is.
              For morons maybe.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"armour"
    >my state

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post gun you fricking Black person.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is /k/ so against soft armor in general? It's more practical for any situation you'll likely find yourself in. It even covers far more surface area. Nearly everyone I see with a plate just has a tiny one that doesn't even cover a good chunk of vitals.
    Hell soft armor is just more practical in general too. I have soft armor inserts I put into that big pouch of my backpack where the bladder is supposed to go. Essentially turns it into a shield I carry everywhere.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everything they know about armor comes from video games. They've never actually worn any. Practicality is not a concern, but dick-measuring ratings absolutely is. It's the same as gearheads talking about super fast cars while in reality a Civic is a much more practical commuter or grocery-getter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You mean I can't just keep shoving plates into my carrier to top off my shields?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >body armour
    Frick off and die

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymus

    [...]

    Seethe bong you aren't fooling anyone spelling that shit Armour. Enjoy your deactivated guns and swords.

    Hate to tell you fella but that's how literally everyone outside the US spells it. That guy is more likely to be a Chinaman than a bong.

    https://i.imgur.com/ZT63wSM.png

    >"armour"
    >my state

    >body armour
    Frick off and die

    ITT: seething larpers spazing out because someone spelled a word wrong.
    Yea I'm gonna say these people are no guns.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have actual plates, do you?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymus

        Nice pic bro, I guess I'll take your word for it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wrong

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Europoors asking about armor when they can't even own guns kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ameritards seething about Eurogun laws while theirs are even more restrictive in some cases

      I can order an assault rifle with a thermal scope and silencer and have it delivered to me with a minimum amount of work. Can you say the same?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        sans the suppressor, yeah. we also don't have to pay 1k for a fricking glock lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymus

      It's not your own guns you need to worry about when shopping for armour. Do you not understand what armour is for?

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