what do you think of them?
whats your favourite bivvy?
I want to go stealth camping in Europe and am thinking of ditching my 2 person tent for a bivvy and tarp setup
bivvies
what do you think of them?
whats your favourite bivvy?
I want to go stealth camping in Europe and am thinking of ditching my 2 person tent for a bivvy and tarp setup
Looks like the manufacturer made no attempt to ventilate it. It’s going to have pretty bad condensation issues except in very arid environments. Bivies outside of high elevation alpine mountains and deserts are a meme.
Any bivvies that have a bugnet, can be closed completely, waterpoof with some level of ventilation? Or is this a tall order? Only ever used tents and the ultra light 1 person tents seem to high profile or too expensive
I have this one on the way, its replacing a 2 man tent I have that was nice, but overkill for 1 person hunting trips and such. It looks like it has netting and decent ventilation.
Bro as soon as you close that fly you’re getting covered in your own sweat.
is has a bugnet so you can open it slightly to ventilate. rain doesnt get in
t. has one
Fricking doubt. Post a pic. I don’t see any means of ventilation.
if you just do up the bug net and dont use the tie up points the head bit still overhangs to keep rain off but theres a gap at the bottom for all the moisture out of your breath to leave
Not enough.
>stealth camping
Frick off, Steve.
I have one.
Miserable in any weather for more than 2 nights in a row. Too much condensation.
The snugpak stratosphere isn't bad, it has a bug net that can be opened and is waterproof, it has a large vent in the hooped end.
Just get a low one person tent and throw a camo net over it. Bivvies are fine for a bug out bag or whatever but are horrible PrepHoleings, damp is always an issue, frick all room to move, also means you have to leave your pack and shoes outside for someone to steal and most of the decent ones are black or grey which makes them shit for stealth camping
Bivvies are great as an emergency shelter. I have a snugpak stratosphere and it's great for weighing little and taking up hardly any room in my bag. I wouldn't want to sleep in it more than once in a while.
I carry it in my bag in case something happens and I unexpectedly have to spend a night out.
Any time I'm on a planned trip with overnights I bring literally any other tent.
The red one looks like my penis
https://www.mountainwarehouse.com/bivy-bag-p13634.aspx/ this the one I use definitely prefer the simple option
they are hot, stuffy, moisty and unventilated sausage shells you have fun with one time and then never use them again
Because PrepHole is filled with clues beginners and Europeans who simply don’t know any better, pic is an example of what we mean when we talk about ventilation and mitigating condensation. It’s a SMD Lunar Solo, a very popular option for people who actually camp.
You see how the rain fly doesn’t go all the way to the ground and leaves a gap between itself and the floor? This allows air to move in and out of the shelter. The size of the door also allows it to be partially close if it’s only a light rain. The size also makes a difference. A larger interior will take longer to heat up or for the humidity to rise high enough to reach the dew point.
Obviously it’s not flawless and condensation can still be an issue, but the large amount of ventilation and interior space minimize the problem.
do you reckon it is suitable for high altitude conditions?
Yes. Why wouldn’t it be?
But more to the point, a simple shelter like this will always outperform a bivy.
except you have to peg it down,
not too much soft ground on a mountain.
non freestanding tents are not to be relied upon unless you know beforehand there are good campsites where you are going
>non freestanding tents are not to be relied upon unless you know beforehand there are good campsites where you are going
You LARPing morons can’t help but expose yourselves.
these morons have never heard of "a rock" and "tying down to a rock" like what an insanely foreign concept
>just tie to a rock next to it bro
I mean, yeah, obviously you use rocks or deadman anchors. But “durr you have to know there are established sites”? This is legitimately the only site with such crappy takes. Why?
Excellent tent. Simple design that’s been around for a century, easy to set up, light, and somewhat affordable. Anyone claiming they need more is an idiot. Maybe more space, lol. But they make a 2p version.
a big anus tigerwall3 works similarly size/vent wise if you absolutely need bigger than 2p (i have it cause i camp with my wife and dog). only problem is the tent is expensive as frick.
>Europeans who simply don’t know any better
In some places in Europe, pitching a tent is illegal, but sleeping in a bivvy is not. You could probably get away with it if you're sufficiently remote and not being moronic but for those who want the peace of mind, or are traveling in large groups, a bivvy (or simply cowboy camping, weather permitting) is a must.
We also have a rather long tradition of tentless camping here, except previously they'd use things like bodybags or trash bags as modern bivvies were not accessible.
yeah this, bivies are just easier to get away with and harder to spot. If it doesnt rain/snow or isnt very cold i just leave the fly open, that solves the condensation issues. And if it rains id rather be in a sweaty bivy then a wet sleeping bag.
Also not all bivys are crated equal, some are breathable some are solid rubber. Almost all militaries in the world use bivies, they arent as bad as PrepHole makes them out to be, but of course if you are camping along whatever UL Thruhike PCT trail you are at, and you dont care about stealth you prefer a tent or tarp setup.
Its also nice to be able to pack up in less then 60s if the boomer forestor is coming after me.
But this is what most americans propably assume: Hiking in germoney:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF5CW1CwCU8
Hiking in the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8P8MgsFNZQ
>the military does it so it must be good
Go back to /k/
>Hiking in germoney:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF5CW1CwCU8
I have a Torah bivy that I take hoboing. That, a tarp and a quilt pretty much covers everything I might need. But out hoboing I mostly sleep in or under structures so the bivy is really just to keep the bugs off me. I use it more than the tarp.
What happens if you rip a long, deep guttural fart inside your bivvy?
same as when in a sleeping bag
See what everyone is saying about condensation and ventilation issues, lol.
if your anything like me, you enjoy it
Stealth camping in europe...
I can set up my 12man tent just about anywhere and nobody would even notice it.
Are you trying to camp on a supermarket parking lot or something?
Why not just get a regular tent in natural colour like green/brown/camo and pick a proper location?
Literally all you have to do is not setup on middle of a road or trail or in somebodys backyard and you can go unnoticed for ages.
That’s how it was when I was growing up. Me, my brothers, and a few friends would sometimes ride our bikes or walk to an undeveloped area of woods and camp. Later as teenagers we go back there to do unsavory teenaged things that would definitely get the cops called on us.. We were far enough from the road that no one could see us; it’s not that hard or even that far.